Don't you think it's a disgrace that Europeans have to pay more and get less?

Both Xbox One and PS4 will cost around 115 euros more than in USA! They charge 399 dollars for PS4 in the USA and 399 euros in Europe while for Xbox One is 499 dollars and 499 euros respectively! That's an insane price! 1.00 EUR = 1.3319 USD.

And in exchange they'll get lackluster online content with most fancy things region-blocked or non-existent. Is there any purpose to it at all?

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29407140/why-europe-why

It's been like that for nearly a decade.

And PS4 isn't region locked. So you can just import if the game doesn't release over here.

factor in things like average wage vs cost of living etc, i doubt it's as bad as people make out.sts106mat

Try coming to Australia and look at our prices!

factor in things like average wage vs cost of living etc, i doubt it's as bad as people make out.sts106mat

I'm sure Socialism doesn't help.

I'm sure Socialism doesn't help.

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I'm sure Socialism doesn't help.

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I'm sure Socialism doesn't help.

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Our average yearly wage is more than that of an American's our minimum wage is also hgher, our tax is included in the price. Our money is just worth more than the USD!! Deal with it £349 is good value for the PS4 but £429 is a rip off for that cable box ;) <-------- system wars texts!!!jonesy1911

it is disgraceful from a UK respective when you think the ps4 is being sold at £349 and the Xbox One is £429, I mean they are exactly the same spec wise, no wait ps4 has slightly better spec and xbox one you have to buy xbox live just to even play the thing, so the price then jumps up to £479 the real price is, which no one is even thinking about, at least when i get my ps4 i can go home and not worry and think o no i have to now pay another fee just to play. i can just plug in a play a game

so scrap that first price it's ps4 £349 and xbone £479. it's crazy.

Regarding the features aspect there all free on ps4 straight away with you only having to pay the fee for that feature, ie netflix. xbox has always had that you have to pay them first before even touching the features. the TV part isn't even available in our country yet and who needs another tv guide.

So for me personally I'm looking at it and thinking why should i pay over £100 more for something which has the exactly the same games will be exactly the same graphics with less variety in their exclusives. their is only one clear winner and thats ps4 for me, who ever buys into xbox one, is just naive because your buying into a future which nothing is yours. which i am not willing to be apart of, i have a pc for them games, a console is ment to be an easier option.

Apparently Europeans tolerate those prices. If the profitability of games and hardware in Europe is proportionate to other markets, maybe the pricing isn't so wrong. Cherokee_Jack

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]Apparently Europeans tolerate those prices. If the profitability of games and hardware in Europe is proportionate to other markets, maybe the pricing isn't so wrong. cakeorrdeath

Who knows.

They still put games out in Europe, so they must make money on them.

Of course, the higher prices maybe allow for fewer unit sales, which would mean enthusiasts make up a greater percentage of the market than elsewhere.

Technically we do get more in the EU as we've got a load of quality assurance laws that give 2yrs warranty on all electrical goods. US only get 30 days i think. I know here in the UK the average wage is quite a bit higher so the prices are kind of to be expected.hoosier7

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]Apparently Europeans tolerate those prices. If the profitability of games and hardware in Europe is proportionate to other markets, maybe the pricing isn't so wrong. Cherokee_Jack

I don't live in Europe so I can't say that I care.

Xbox and Playstation should have been manufacture in Bosnia or greece .... where the labour is cheaphippiesanta

It's these friggen taxes and other bullsh1t. Europe is stupid when it comes to gaming.

Europeans make significantly more money on average than the US and Canada. It's basic economics. Get over it. Be glad you don't live in Australia.Zeviander

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]Xbox and Playstation should have been manufacture in Bosnia or greece .... where the labour is cheapcakeorrdeath

America is a 3rd world country that would walk past a dying person on the street. If they even care in the slightest, they ask for their insurance first.

Insurance money > health! America! Fvck yeah!

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Therefore it's cheap there. Americans refuse to pay enough taxes. They just want to spend it all on burgers and guns.

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="hippiesanta"]Xbox and Playstation should have been manufacture in Bosnia or greece .... where the labour is cheaphippiesanta

In Sweden we have 25% VAT, so the PS4 should technically be $499, but it'll actually be closer to $620. Where that $120 comes from I have no idea. Import fees add something I suppose, but not that much. This is how it has always worked though, so it's hard to suddenly get all upset about it.

Microsoft's US focus continues to spawn worthless value adds. So when it's $770, all their talk about services, apps and TV TV TV etc. does f***ing nothing to sweeten the deal.

edit:
Turns out the Xbox One is just $695. Actually lower than it should be. Usually the way it works is you just add a decimal and you get the price in SEK. $499 = 4990:-, but it's actually 4490:-

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"] Where are they manufactured?cakeorrdeath

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="hippiesanta"] chinaV3rciS

Unfortunately EU always pays more, its been like that since i can remember...

There are countries in EU where EUR399 isnt much but many others (Eastern Europe in particular) is quite a lot... It would be surely nice for most european countries to see they're paying the same amount like in US.. (example PS4 US399 roughly translates to Euro300 / GBP260)

I know gaming is a hobby/luxury unlike other things but its quite frustrating knowing you're paying more in your country for the same product(s)..

[QUOTE="hoosier7"]Technically we do get more in the EU as we've got a load of quality assurance laws that give 2yrs warranty on all electrical goods. US only get 30 days i think. I know here in the UK the average wage is quite a bit higher so the prices are kind of to be expected.cakeorrdeath

Not really sure if I have given it much thought. I would say just don't get it though if it costs too much.

factor in things like average wage vs cost of living etc, i doubt it's as bad as people make out.sts106mat

Bro I live in a country which has European Union-like prices yet the wages are 4 times lower than anywhere else in the West. This wouldn't be an issue if I lived in France, Germany, etc. but here it is. It's Poland btw.Salt_The_Fries