Double standards (with quotes)?

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Darksiders PS3 Review 8.0Bayonetta PS3 Review 8.0

Darksiders 360 Review 8.0Bayonetta 360 Review 9.0

GameSpot on Darksiders:

"there are some unfortunate graphical issues in the Xbox 360 version. Screen tearing is a huge problem that surfaces almost any time the camera is rotated, and it's bad enough to distract you even when you're just exploring. In addition, battles that get too big make the frame rate suffer, causing graphical slowdown. The PlayStation 3 version suffers neither of these issues."

GameSpot on Bayonetta:

"Though frame rate issues, frequent and extended load times, and less-crisp graphics make the PlayStation 3 version inferior to its Xbox 360 counterpart, it is nonetheless still a very enjoyable experience"

Is this not abit of a double standard on GS part?

Are they reviewed by different people? Then it should be easy to tell why.

Mr. Anderson how could you!

who cares ????? I mean seriously ..

who cares ????? I mean seriously ..

Megaman5364

This obviously means that the 360 issues of Darksiders aren't as bad as the PS3 issues of Bayonetta. That's it.

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Darksiders PS3 Review 8.0Bayonetta PS3 Review 8.0

Darksiders 360 Review 8.0Bayonetta 360 Review 9.0

GameSpot on Darksiders:

"there are some unfortunate graphical issues in the Xbox 360 version. Screen tearing is a huge problem that surfaces almost any time the camera is rotated, and it's bad enough to distract you even when you're just exploring. In addition, battles that get too big make the frame rate suffer, causing graphical slowdown. The PlayStation 3 version suffers neither of these issues."

GameSpot on Bayonetta:

"Though frame rate issues, frequent and extended load times, and less-crisp graphics make the PlayStation 3 version inferior to its Xbox 360 counterpart, it is nonetheless still a very enjoyable experience"

Is this not abit of a double standard on GS part?

anthonydwyer

Dragon Age: Origins anyone?

PS3 version of Bayonetta is still a great (AA) game, its just they feel the 360 version is better.

Like others say I dont think the darksiders differences warrant a lower score. At the end of the day Darksiders is still a great experience on either the PS3 or 360

This obviously means that the 360 issues of Darksiders aren't as bad as the PS3 issues of Bayonetta. That's it.

ActicEdge

The biggest one is Ratchet and clank a crack in time. It imrpoves and refines almost every aspect of the game, adds in more game changing game mechanics since the original Ratchet and clank, and has revamped its graphic art style making some of the levels in the game look down right utterly amazing (Axiom City) but gets complained about being similar to the other ratchet and clank games. Then we have something like R&C Tools of Destruction which was by the numbers generic, and featured less game changing aspects. Was basically a rehash game in hd and got higher critical acclaim.

Oh, this stupidity isn't just for R&C series. FF13 will have lower scores than mass effect 2 even if ff13 is a better game in every way. I think of it as the most obvious 'you are an idiot fanboy' double standard in the game industry.

GS is teh biased!! :cry:

FF13 will have lower scores than mass effect 2 even if ff13 is a better game in every way. I think of it as the most obvious 'you are an idiot fanboy' double standard in the game industry.nhh18

Just by those quotes is easy to see that the differences in Bayonetta are significant while relatively minor in Darksiders. GS is not the only one, btw. A lot of sites gave the PS3 version of Bayonetta a lower score while giving the same to both versions of Darksiders.IronBass

The differences in bayonetta are no more significant then the issues raised with darksiders.

The only real problem GS have with the ps3 version of bayonetta is framerate issues and according to gamespot is still a very enjoyable experience.

extended load times, and less-crisp graphics, is just nit picking

However

Darksiders on the 360 has

Screen tearing and frame rate issues that again according to gamespot "a huge problem that's bad enough to distract you even when you're just exploring."

[QUOTE="nhh18"] FF13 will have lower scores than mass effect 2 even if ff13 is a better game in every way. I think of it as the most obvious 'you are an idiot fanboy' double standard in the game industry.IronBass

If we shall play this game then the 360 version of alot of multiplats need re-scoring.:)

GS is teh biased!! :cry:

EndorphinMaster

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Darksiders PS3 Review 8.0Bayonetta PS3 Review 8.0

Darksiders 360 Review 8.0Bayonetta 360 Review 9.0

GameSpot on Darksiders:

"there are some unfortunate graphical issues in the Xbox 360 version. Screen tearing is a huge problem that surfaces almost any time the camera is rotated, and it's bad enough to distract you even when you're just exploring. In addition, battles that get too big make the frame rate suffer, causing graphical slowdown. The PlayStation 3 version suffers neither of these issues."

GameSpot on Bayonetta:

"Though frame rate issues, frequent and extended load times, and less-crisp graphics make the PlayStation 3 version inferior to its Xbox 360 counterpart, it is nonetheless still a very enjoyable experience"

Is this not abit of a double standard on GS part?

anthonydwyer

[QUOTE="IronBass"]Just by those quotes is easy to see that the differences in Bayonetta are significant while relatively minor in Darksiders. GS is not the only one, btw. A lot of sites gave the PS3 version of Bayonetta a lower score while giving the same to both versions of Darksiders.anthonydwyer

The differences in bayonetta are no more significant then the issues raised with darksiders.

The only real problem GS have with the ps3 version of bayonetta is framerate issues and according to gamespot is still a very enjoyable experience.

extended load times, and less-crisp graphics, is just nit picking

However

Darksiders on the 360 has

Screen tearing and frame rate issues that again according to gamespot "a huge problem that's bad enough to distract you even when you're just exploring."

I should play bayonetta but have a huge backlog of games :(. Not on ps3 though. Xbox 360 version is considered far far superior.

[QUOTE="anthonydwyer"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"]Just by those quotes is easy to see that the differences in Bayonetta are significant while relatively minor in Darksiders. GS is not the only one, btw. A lot of sites gave the PS3 version of Bayonetta a lower score while giving the same to both versions of Darksiders.IronBass

The differences in bayonetta are no more significant then the issues raised with darksiders.

The only real problem GS have with the ps3 version of bayonetta is framerate issues and according to gamespot is still a very enjoyable experience.

extended load times, and less-crisp graphics, is just nit picking

However

Darksiders on the 360 has

Screen tearing and frame rate issues that again according to gamespot "a huge problem that's bad enough to distract you even when you're just exploring."

Hush, Gamespot is just bias towards the PS3. Way to show your fanboy IB :roll:

:P

GS is teh biased!! :cry:

EndorphinMaster

I've not said GS is biased, Bayonetta on the 360 was obviously superior and deserved a higher score, I just think that if they should pick a formula and stick to it. if they are not going to rate accordingly they should not mention the differences, if they do mention the differences, that paints one version of the game superior it should be scored to reflect this.

Gamespot rated AC on both platforms 9.0 even though the ps3 version had issues that was not in the ps3 version.

it rates Dragon age higher on the ps3 & fallout higher on the 360 for slight differences, yet it goes back to rating darksiders the same when its obviously better on one console.

I think they need to reevaluate the way they review multiplat games.

It is basically true. Look at some of these games that got hurt by this double standard. New super mario bros wii, Ratchet and clank a crack in time, Resident Evil 5, and soon final fantasy 13. I am not saying this as a theory. Because I am pretty confident their will be at least 7 reviews that will give the game a 6/10, or 7/10 saying it is by the numbers because they are idiots. But in all honesty, this isn't really speculation when it actually has happened to numerous games. Modern warfare 2 will not get this hatred, but Final Fantasy 13 will.nhh18

I don't want to sound harsh, but I did not understand your post. What happened with RE5 and NSMBWii?

RE5 was not hurt by any standard, the game was just nowhere as good as RE4. And it came 3 years later, so its score is understandable. I have not played NSMWii, but the score seems to make a lot of sense.

Now back on ME2 and FFXIII, none of us has played it, nor have they been reviewed, so we have a huge lack of information for making any claim of bias regardless them.

[QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

GS is teh biased!! :cry:

I've not said GS is biased, Bayonetta on the 360 was obviously superior and deserved a higher score, I just think that if they should pick a formula and stick to it. if they are not going to rate accordingly they should not mention the differences, if they do mention the differences, that paints one version of the game superior it should be scored to reflect this.

Gamespot rated AC on both platforms 9.0 even though the ps3 version had issues that was not in the ps3 version.

it rates Dragon age higher on the ps3 & fallout higher on the 360 for slight differences, yet it goes back to rating darksiders the same when its obviously better on one console.

I think they need to reevaluate the way they review multiplat games.

[QUOTE="nhh18"]It is basically true. Look at some of these games that got hurt by this double standard. New super mario bros wii, Ratchet and clank a crack in time, Resident Evil 5, and soon final fantasy 13. I am not saying this as a theory. Because I am pretty confident their will be at least 7 reviews that will give the game a 6/10, or 7/10 saying it is by the numbers because they are idiots. But in all honesty, this isn't really speculation when it actually has happened to numerous games. Modern warfare 2 will not get this hatred, but Final Fantasy 13 will.IronBass

I don't want to sound harsh, but I did not understand your post. What happened with RE5 and NSMBWii?

RE5 was not hurt by any standard, the game was just nowhere as good as RE4. And it came 3 years later, so its score is understandable. I have not played NSMWii, but the score seems to make a lot of sense.

Now back on ME2 and FFXIII, none of us has played it, nor have they been reviewed, so we have a huge lack of information for making any claim of bias regardless them.

NSMBWii got hated on for motion. That was silly. Also the 4 player complaint was silly. It wasn't a bad review though. RE5 deserved its score as well. I'm playing 4 now and its just way better. Granted RE5 is still awesome so I'm not bothered.

Hush, Gamespot is just bias towards the PS3. Way to show your fanboy IB :roll: :PActicEdge

If we shall play this game then the 360 version of alot of multiplats need re-scoring.:)

vaderhater

True, like i said they mention the differences it should be reflected in the scores, or just dont mention them and score both the same. However they should stick to one and do it all the time.

[QUOTE="nhh18"]It is basically true. Look at some of these games that got hurt by this double standard. New super mario bros wii, Ratchet and clank a crack in time, Resident Evil 5, and soon final fantasy 13. I am not saying this as a theory. Because I am pretty confident their will be at least 7 reviews that will give the game a 6/10, or 7/10 saying it is by the numbers because they are idiots. But in all honesty, this isn't really speculation when it actually has happened to numerous games. Modern warfare 2 will not get this hatred, but Final Fantasy 13 will.IronBass

I don't want to sound harsh, but I did not understand your post. What happened with RE5 and NSMBWii?

RE5 was not hurt by any standard, the game was just nowhere as good as RE4. And it came 3 years later, so its score is understandable. I have not played NSMWii, but the score seems to make a lot of sense.

Now back on ME2 and FFXIII, none of us has played it, nor have they been reviewed, so we have a huge lack of information for making any claim of bias regardless them.

Edge: "Despite the lack of ingenuity on display, NSMB Wii's thrash of four players does bring uproarious anarchy to the sofa for short periods of time. [Dec 2009, p.86] -7. Main complaint lack of originality

"ODST doesn't quite take Halo into unfamiliar territory, but it does show how robust and adaptable the core of the game is – and, more importantly, stands on its own two feet as a spin-off that's better than the vast majority of original games." -9. Main compliment lack of originality.

Reviewers usually rate down a version only when the difference is big enough to justify such a drop.For ACII and Darksiders it was not, for Bayonetta it was. IronBass

How can Screen tearing that is bad enough to distract a player & framerate issues that arn't in the PlayStation 3 version not be a big enough issue to drop the score on the 360?

[QUOTE="IronBass"] Reviewers usually rate down a version only when the difference is big enough to justify such a drop.For ACII and Darksiders it was not, for Bayonetta it was. anthonydwyer

How can Screen tearing that are bad enough to distrac a player & framerate issues that arn't in the PlayStation 3 version not be a big enough issue to drop the score on the 360?

New super mario bros wii and new super mario bros ds have around the same gamerankings review score. However, everyone who played both games would say that new super mario bros wii is far superior to ds version in every way. The reviews state otherwise for idiotic fanboy prejudices.

nhh18

Standards. Almost everybody think Fallout 3 is better than Oblivion, but it scored less. It's something relatively common.

Same with ratchet and clank tools of destruction and Ratchet and clank a crack in time. The 2nd one is far superior artstyle, gameplay mechanics (the hover boots improve the platforming segments drastically) but has a lower score than R&C Tools of destruction. The reason isn't that games improve over time but more or less fanboy prejudices when X game in the franchise is released. Their review for the game was already made up before the game was even released.

nhh18

To me it looks more like the reviewer has a different opinion than yours. Unless you can prove that the reviews were made up.

Edge: "Despite the lack of ingenuity on display, NSMB Wii's thrash of four players does bring uproarious anarchy to the sofa for short periods of time. [Dec 2009, p.86] -7. Main complaint lack of originality

"ODST doesn't quite take Halo into unfamiliar territory, but it does show how robust and adaptable the core of the game is – and, more importantly, stands on its own two feet as a spin-off that's better than the vast majority of original games." -9. Main compliment lack of originality.

nhh18

That's something common, too. Two games can have the same flaw, but still one can be better than other. An example, lived by myself: My only complaint about Prince of Persia, Batman AA and Assassin's Creed is how repetitive they are. But I still think that Batman AA > PoP > AC.

You are trying to judge reviews from an "objective" point of view, which is impossible since reviews are extremely subjective.

[QUOTE="anthonydwyer"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] Reviewers usually rate down a version only when the difference is big enough to justify such a drop.For ACII and Darksiders it was not, for Bayonetta it was. IronBass

How can Screen tearing that are bad enough to distrac a player & framerate issues that arn't in the PlayStation 3 version not be a big enough issue to drop the score on the 360?

Why would I ask other review sites about the issues that Gamespot have highlighted with the game?

Ive used Gamespot review & Gamespot quotes, I am talking about GS inability to stay consistent with how they review multiplatform games - I am not talking about GS being bias.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="anthonydwyer"]

How can Screen tearing that are bad enough to distrac a player & framerate issues that arn't in the PlayStation 3 version not be a big enough issue to drop the score on the 360?

anthonydwyer

Why would I ask other review sites about the issues that Gamespot have highlighted with the game?

Ive used Gamespot review & Gamespot quotes, I am talking about GS inability to stay consistent with how they review multiplatform games - I am not talking about GS being bias.

You don't know as to what extend the screen tearing a frame rate was. After playing Bayonetta, I could see how dipping framerate could really kill the experience, but I haven't play darksiders so I can't say.

who cares ????? I mean seriously ..

Megaman5364

[QUOTE="nhh18"]

Standards. Almost everybody think Fallout 3 is better than Oblivion, but it scored less. It's something relatively common.

[QUOTE="nhh18"] Same with ratchet and clank tools of destruction and Ratchet and clank a crack in time. The 2nd one is far superior artstyle, gameplay mechanics (the hover boots improve the platforming segments drastically) but has a lower score than R&C Tools of destruction. The reason isn't that games improve over time but more or less fanboy prejudices when X game in the franchise is released. Their review for the game was already made up before the game was even released.

IronBass

To me it looks more like the reviewer has a different opinion than yours. Unless you can prove that the reviews were made up.

Edge: "Despite the lack of ingenuity on display, NSMB Wii's thrash of four players does bring uproarious anarchy to the sofa for short periods of time. [Dec 2009, p.86] -7. Main complaint lack of originality

"ODST doesn't quite take Halo into unfamiliar territory, but it does show how robust and adaptable the core of the game is – and, more importantly, stands on its own two feet as a spin-off that's better than the vast majority of original games." -9. Main compliment lack of originality.

nhh18

That's something common, too. Two games can have the same flaw, but still one can be better than other. An example, lived by myself: My only complaint about Prince of Persia, Batman AA and Assassin's Creed is how repetitive they are. But I still think that Batman AA > PoP > AC.

You are trying to judge reviews from an "objective" point of view, which is impossible since reviews are extremely subjective.

Yup GS is soo biased against the PS3...yet ps3 exclusives dominated GOTY awards as well as MGS4 being the only exclusive this gen with a 10 right? :roll:

The difference in Darksiders was probably only a .1 difference in score or whatever, so with Gamespot's system, it wasn't shown. However they probably thought that Bayonetta's faults on PS3 were great enough to get annoying and let down the overall experience enough to make a large change in score.

360 Darksiders has occasional screen tearing and framerate dips.

PS3 Bayonetta has severe slowdowns, washed out textures, and long loads for everything from picking up an item to pausing the game.

But yea otherwise it's a total double standard!

:roll: