Downsides to new HD console refresh

Based on rumors Nintendo will likely release an HD console next year which will eclipse the 360 and PS3 in terms of graphics.

Many of you want a new gen of consoles for better graphics but let's take a look at the downsides:

Longer development cycle. With every new gen the development cycle takes even longer. Staying with current consoles means games come out faster since the tech has been mastered. Do we really want to wait 6 years for L.A. Noire 2?

Higher prices. What if new games end up being $65? Or even $70? Expect higher network fees as well.

More restrictions. We could see some new implentations to restrict used game sales.

Sony. Who knows what they will come up with next.

Dimminishing differences. In all likelyhood most games won't look that different. It will be just a handful that really push the systems. Many genres like fighting, jrpgs and sports don't require new systems. It's mainly the shooter crowd that wants better graphics.

Split market. New consoles could end up splitting the market. Just because a new system has better graphics does not mean that developers will follow. PS2/Xbox is a good example.

Tech is advancing and well sadly, game sales aren't well it is growing, its not growing fast enough, to keep up with the costs, and allow many new large budject startup games. The jump from this gen to next gen isn't going to be large, developers aren't going to throw 100 million dollars into develment costs

This is what games will (hopefully)look like next gen on the consoles.
So i dont really see any down sides, and yeah development costs i suppose will increase, but thats a given.

Based on rumors Nintendo will likely release an HD console next year which will eclipse the 360 and PS3 in terms of graphics.

Many of you want a new gen of consoles for better graphics but let's take a look at the downsides:

Longer development cycle. With every new gen the development cycle takes even longer. Staying with current consoles means games come out faster since the tech has been mastered. Do we really want to wait 6 years for L.A. Noire 2?

Higher prices. What if new games end up being $65? Or even $70? Expect higher network fees as well.

More restrictions. We could see some new implentations to restrict used game sales.

Sony. Who knows what they will come up with next.

Dimminishing differences. In all likelyhood most games won't look that different. It will be just a handful that really push the systems. Many genres like fighting, jrpgs and sports don't require new systems. It's mainly the shooter crowd that wants better graphics.

Split market. New consoles could end up splitting the market. Just because a new system has better graphics does not mean that developers will follow. PS2/Xbox is a good example.

dc337

If Ninty does put out a new console next year that is on par or slightly more powerful than ps360, all that'll happen is Ninty will start getting ports of ps360 multiplats. MAYBE some of the first party offerings will look better, but Ninty's first party is more about artistic st y le than it is flashy graphics anyway.ianuilliam

I doubt it will be only slightly more powerful. Hardware is cheap these days.

If Nintendo inspires MS to release their next xbox earlier that could result in a split market of xbox360/ps3/pc and xbox720/NinHD/pc.

Microsoft and Sony don't really need to release a console for a awhile. Nintendo on the other hand is a different story and there is no downside to them coming out with a new HD console.

If Nintendo inspires MS to release their next xbox earlier that could result in a split market of xbox360/ps3/pc and xbox720/NinHD/pc.

dc337

The PC has already left the current generation behind. Any gaming system built within the last few years will be able to run next-generation console ports just fine, at least the initial ones. PC advancements are gradual and consistent instead of occasional and sudden so developers won't suddenly force you to have a vastly more powerful PC.

If the AMD trinity rumors are true it will be more than slightly stronger. I think every company needs a new console now. EA, Crytek & a few others are now complaining about the outdated hardware. If they didnt want stronger hardware they wouldn't nag.

It would be amazing if Microsoft and Sony don't upgrade and Nintendo fans have to put up with their multiplats being held back by the HD twins just like PC gamers do.

excuse me ,

they always will be the cheapest option lol your trippin if you tihnk wii 2 will be any more then 360 or ps3 lol it wont be that much higher in graphics thats for certain ,

and by 2012 the price to develope a ps3 like game /360 like game would be cheaper ,

ps4 and 720 how ever, will be as high as ps3 360 was last gen so ya ,

and dont forget gamecube was the 2nd most powerful console at its gen , selling for 100 less then the weakest -os2 lol , so dont sit here and assume nintendo gonna be like sony charging 600 it will most likely be 200-300 for a wii 2 cause by the time it comes 3ds would drop at least to 149-170 or somthing , and ya its nintendo their smart theyll sell it and it will be at least on par with ps3 that will give them 5-6 yrs , then when 720 ps4 finally come by 2014 nintnedo will come up with another 1 yr later for cheaperr then those so ya nintnedo has nothing to worry about ! 3ds is already making them profit lol

excuse me ,

they always will be the cheapest option lol your trippin if you tihnk wii 2 will be any more then 360 or ps3 lol it wont be that much higher in graphics thats for certain ,

and by 2012 the price to develope a ps3 like game /360 like game would be cheaper ,

ps4 and 720 how ever, will be as high as ps3 360 was last gen so ya ,

mariokart64fan

it will be only slightly better lol and wii sold better then 360 ps3 without hd lol and this one will be for 300 at least and ya 150 i dont think so the ps3 isnt even 150 yet and that things been out since 06 nor is 360 and thats been out since 05! so if you want a 150 get a wii one whne they drop the price , your not going to get a 150 dolar console next gen you have not gotten one in any gen quite frankly people are buying 3dses and iwll be buying ngps at 350 ,, so why you gonna complain when wii hd/2 is 300 lol mariokart64fan

Based on rumors Nintendo will likely release an HD console next year which will eclipse the 360 and PS3 in terms of graphics.

Many of you want a new gen of consoles for better graphics but let's take a look at the downsides:

Longer development cycle. With every new gen the development cycle takes even longer. Staying with current consoles means games come out faster since the tech has been mastered. Do we really want to wait 6 years for L.A. Noire 2?

The graphics will only be slightly larger, and it will likely not have the RAM restrictions that the current Duo have... thus quicker turnaround since the developers already know how to do the graphics they know and won't have to dumb them down to work on the consoles.

Higher prices. What if new games end up being $65? Or even $70? Expect higher network fees as well.

The price will definately be higher than the price of the Wii currently. There's no saying if games will cost more, but HD zelda sounds sweet.

More restrictions. We could see some new implentations to restrict used game sales.

Its possible they could add restrictions, but I don't know if Nintendo is as concerned as Sony is (for example). Unlikely they will have more restrictions, and seeing as the remotes will have touchscreen and a camera, i'm thinking a much wider use in terms of what its capable of doing will reduce restrictions.

Sony. Who knows what they will come up with next.

Who knows, who cares. They can't release another console that drains money out of their pockets, so its conceivable they do nothing.

Dimminishing differences. In all likelyhood most games won't look that different. It will be just a handful that really push the systems. Many genres like fighting, jrpgs and sports don't require new systems. It's mainly the shooter crowd that wants better graphics.

I disagree. Right now developers make a game that works on both consoles, but they often have to deal with limitations of each consoles hardware, and with the WiiHD having less limitations, they are free to use that as the lead console and then down port the games to 360 and PS3. Its possible but then again thats only if 3rd party developers jump on the bandwagon. Again, I want a better zelda game... not a shooter.

Split market. New consoles could end up splitting the market. Just because a new system has better graphics does not mean that developers will follow. PS2/Xbox is a good example.

The market is already split only now developers can make the game for all three of the big players on the market instead of making one version for 2 consoles and another version for the wii. Its a good thing that Nintendo is doing this not a bad one.

dc337

Thats basically what I have to say about that.

I just want 1080p 60FPS to be the standard. mythrol