DS is crap compared to GBA

5 AAAs and 24 AAs

In the same period of time (june01-jan04) GBA has had

13 AAAs 71 AAs

Thats 2.6 times the AAA and almost 3 times the AA games

What happened there Nintendo? Devs (including Nintendo) cashing in on crap games? PSP stealing 3rd party?

What's more important? Quality games or sales.

GBA was an instant hit as the successor to the GameBoy, the DS hadn't cought on yet.ZinkOxide

Bingo.

salesturq_razor

lol who needs quality games to play when you can use sales figures to own people in SW:lol:

The DS is like the Wii. It is hard to develop for because it's control sytle is different. I'm not sure if the developers will ever really learn to develop properly for these systems, but I'm sure in the next generation of handhelds, if Nintendo continues with touch screen gaming that is, the developers will be more used to developing for a system like this.

Example: The GBA used the same control style as the Gameboy. The developers were used to it. Therefore, they could develop better games for it.

The DS can play GBA games... :wink:

And look at how many remakes and multiplats existed on the GBA.

Of course the DS would be better if you could play GBC games on it though, because I would like to play some old GBC games again.

[QUOTE="ZinkOxide"]GBA was an instant hit as the successor to the GameBoy, the DS hadn't cought on yet.DA_B0MB

Bingo.

seconded

[QUOTE="turq_razor"]salesme2002

lol who needs quality games to play when you can use sales figures to own people in SW:lol:

You're in SW, so....yeah.

Because the PSP took a big bite into Nintendo's handheld market.NobuoMusicMaker

Didn't I prove you wrong yesterday?

The DS can play GBA games... :wink:

-Spock-

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]Because the PSP took a big bite into Nintendo's handheld market.Eponique

Didn't I prove you wrong yesterday?

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]Because the PSP took a big bite into Nintendo's handheld market.Eponique

Didn't I prove you wrong yesterday?

In my other thread too:lol: I'd call 1/3 a big bite though

[QUOTE="Eponique"]

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]Because the PSP took a big bite into Nintendo's handheld market.me2002

Didn't I prove you wrong yesterday?

In my other thread too:lol: I'd call 1/3 a big bite though

I wouldn't call 500,000 sold weeklya big bite though...

Because the PSP took a big bite into Nintendo's handheld market.NobuoMusicMaker

Alot of those games on the GBA were ports fanboy, original games take more time to make. And the DS is far more successful than the GBA so i'm guessing we'll be seeing more of the likes of Contra 4, DQ 9 and Zelda

Also DS plays GBA, so yeah. Cry more

[QUOTE="me2002"][QUOTE="Eponique"]

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]Because the PSP took a big bite into Nintendo's handheld market.Eponique

Didn't I prove you wrong yesterday?

In my other thread too:lol: I'd call 1/3 a big bite though

I wouldn't call 500,000 sold weeklya big bite though...

In my other thread too:lol: I'd call 1/3 a big bite though

me2002

Isn't the DS the bests elling Nintendo handheld ever?

If that's the case how is the PSP effecting it in the slightest? just like the game gear effected the Gameboy i'd bet :lol:

Alot of those games on the GBA were ports fanboy, original games take more time to make. And the DS is far more successful than the GBA so i'm guessing we'll be seeing more of the likes of Contra 4, DQ 9 and Zelda

Also DS plays GBA, so yeah. Cry more

NorthlandMan

You mean ports like Mario 64, FF3 and Resident Evil?

[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="me2002"][QUOTE="Eponique"]

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]Because the PSP took a big bite into Nintendo's handheld market.Grasshopper_12

Didn't I prove you wrong yesterday?

In my other thread too:lol: I'd call 1/3 a big bite though

I wouldn't call 500,000 sold weeklya big bite though...

That's the DS, not the PSP :P

[QUOTE="me2002"]

In my other thread too:lol: I'd call 1/3 a big bite though

NorthlandMan

Isn't the DS the bests elling Nintendo handheld ever?

If that's the case how is the PSP effecting it in the slightest? just like the game gear effected the Gameboy i'd bet :lol:

True, but another way to look at it is marketshare. They lost 1/3 market share hence the "big bite" the other guy mentioned. But as someone else said they probably help each other cause competition fuels sales.

[QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]

Alot of those games on the GBA were ports fanboy, original games take more time to make. And the DS is far more successful than the GBA so i'm guessing we'll be seeing more of the likes of Contra 4, DQ 9 and Zelda

you mean ports like Super Mario 64, FF3 and Resident Evil?

Also DS plays GBA, so yeah. Cry more

me2002

Yeah i mean ports like Mario 64 and Resident Evil (FF3 is a remake which you'd know if you had a clue about games). So yeah like those TWO games (and most of the crap on the PSP).

Basically your argument for this thread seems to be that one Nintendo handheld is better than another handheld (and both are of course are better than the PSP). That's probably the dumbest attempt i've ever seen to troll the DS, especially given that the DS plays GBA games :lol:

Seriously a 10 year old could put togetehr a better argument (which reminds me son, how old ARE you?)

True, but another way to look at it is marketshare. They lost 1/3 market share hence the "big bite" the other guy mentioned. But as someone else said they probably help each other cause competition fuels sales.

me2002

:lol:

How is the PSP effecting the portable video gaming market when no-ones buying the games? and why should anyone care that the PSP can outsell the game gear when the DS is on track to be the best selling Nintendo handheld ever?

Competition will indeed fuel sales. DS sales. Nintendo were forced to raise their game and they did. DS owners will soon get Contra 4, Ninja Gaiden DS, Dragon Quest 9, Sonic RPG and Zelda and there' still a ton of games to be announced at E3. It's over, DS wins by a landslide

[QUOTE="me2002"][QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]

Alot of those games on the GBA were ports fanboy, original games take more time to make. And the DS is far more successful than the GBA so i'm guessing we'll be seeing more of the likes of Contra 4, DQ 9 and Zelda

you mean ports like Super Mario 64, FF3 and Resident Evil?

Also DS plays GBA, so yeah. Cry more

NorthlandMan

Yeah i mean ports like Mario 64 and Resident Evil (FF3 is a remake which you'd know if you had a clue about games). So yeah like those TWO games (and most of the crap on the PSP).

Basically your argument for this thread seems to be that one Nintendo handheld is better than another handheld (and both are of course are better than the PSP). That's probably the dumbest attempt i've ever seen to troll the DS, especially given that the DS plays GBA games :lol:

Seriously a 10 year old could put togetehr a better argument (which reminds me son, how old ARE you?)

I'm saying Nintendo made a crap handheld this gen. The game quality is decreasing despite increase in sales.

Don't get so angry dude.

[QUOTE="me2002"]

True, but another way to look at it is marketshare. They lost 1/3 market share hence the "big bite" the other guy mentioned. But as someone else said they probably help each other cause competition fuels sales.

NorthlandMan

:lol:

How is the PSP effecting the portable video gaming market when no-ones buying the games? and why should anyone care that the PSP can outsell the game gear when the DS is on track to be the best selling Nintendo handheld ever?

Competition will indeed fuel sales. DS sales. Nintendo were forced to raise their game and they did. DS owners will soon get Contra 4, Ninja Gaiden DS, Dragon Quest 9, Sonic RPG and Zelda and there' still a ton of games to be announced at E3. It's over, DS wins by a landslide

No ones's saying DS didn't win. Nintendo still lost 1/3 marketshare.

Oh sorry about that :P What does the PSP sell then?Grasshopper_12

150,000 a week? That includes the recent Eurocraze over the price drop. It would've still been on the 80,000 levels if it weren't for that.

I'm saying Nintendo made a crap handheld this gen. The game quality is decreasing despite increase in sales.

Don't get so angry dude.

me2002

So let me get this straight. A Zelda game, a Dragon Quest game, A contra game, A ninja Gaiden game and a Bioware RPG mean that game quality is decreasingon the DS? :lol:

where do you kids come from? surely you should have a basic idea about gaming before you come onto Gamespot forums?

No ones's saying DS didn't win. Nintendo still lost 1/3 marketshare.

me2002

Nintendo lost marketshare with their best selling handheld ever?

[QUOTE="me2002"]

I'm saying Nintendo made a crap handheld this gen. The game quality is decreasing despite increase in sales.

Don't get so angry dude.

NorthlandMan

So let me get this straight. A Zelda game, a Dragon Quest game, A contra game, A ninja Gaiden game and a Bioware RPG mean that game quality is decreasingon the DS? :lol:

where do you kids come from? surely you should have a basic idea about gaming before you come onto Gamespot forums?

I'm talking so far. And I have proved why in my topic. You should read it again.

Word of advice for you, calling someone a 10 year old kid doesn't make you look very mature.

[QUOTE="me2002"]

No ones's saying DS didn't win. Nintendo still lost 1/3 marketshare.

NorthlandMan

Nintendo lost marketshare with their best selling handheld ever?

To any normal person that would sound insane, but i'm sure it makes perfect sense to you

I just wanted to quote you before you delete your post

I AGREE.

i've stopped handheld gaming since the release of the ds. long live the gba!

[QUOTE="NorthlandMan"][QUOTE="me2002"]

No ones's saying DS didn't win. Nintendo still lost 1/3 marketshare.

me2002

Nintendo lost marketshare with their best selling handheld ever?

To any normal person that would sound insane, but i'm sure it makes perfect sense to you

I just wanted to quote you before you delete your post

Why the hell would he delete it? We don't care if it lose %, it's still running the PSP to the ground.

DS has been out for 2 years 7 months and 2 weeks, it has

5 AAAs and 24 AAs

In the same period of time (june01-jan04) GBA has had

13 AAAs 71 AAs

Thats 2.6 times the AAA and almost 3 times the AA games

What happened there Nintendo? Devs (including Nintendo) cashing in on crap games? PSP stealing 3rd party?

What's more important? Quality games or sales.

me2002

Let me add a point to your op me2002.

5 AAA and (tough counting, hope I'm right) 55 AA.

Give and take some of the 8.8, 8.9 near AAA status, the dev went to make this much AAA and AA games. If the PSP wasn't released, those AAA and AA's could be under the DS and translated to almost the exact same as the GBA.

So, back to my point, PSP took a big bite out of the DS market. Taking with it, half the AAA's and 2/3 of the AA's.

I agree, I really enjoyed the GBA but I haven't cared about DS at all since it was launched.

It has some good games like Mario Kart and stuff, but overall the GBA just had so much more that I liked.

I'm talking so far. And I have proved why in my topic. You should read it again.

Word of advice for you, calling someone a 10 year old kid doesn't make you look very mature.

me2002

Thanks for the advice Mr Maturity. As for your topic it refers only to Gamespot.Critics in gerneral have received the DS very well so far which is very impressive given that (unlike the GBA) it's best titles didnt tend to be high rated SNES ports. As for "game quality decreasing" The DS has some of best third parties in the world working on it and THE best first party in the world making 96 titles for it.The GBA has also been out 4 years longer than the DS. We shall see where the DS stands in 4 years time

Why the hell would he delete it? We don't care if it lose %, it's still running the PSP to the ground.

Eponique

The DS is far more successful than any other handheld and has gained a much greater portion of the market. and yet we are supposed to believe that the DS has lost market share because 20 million people bought a PSP (apparently to be used as an MP3 player)

[QUOTE="me2002"]

I'm talking so far. And I have proved why in my topic. You should read it again.

Word of advice for you, calling someone a 10 year old kid doesn't make you look very mature.

NorthlandMan

Thanks for the advice Mr Maturity. As for your topic it refers only to Gamespot.Critics in gerneral have received the DS very well so far which is very impressive given that (unlike the GBA) it's best titles didnt tend to be high rated SNES ports. As for "game quality decreasing" The DS has some of best third parties in the world working on it and THE best first party in the world making 96 titles for it.The GBA has also been out 4 years longer than the DS. We shall see where the DS stands in 4 years time

I was comparing DS's games to GBA's in the same amount of time after launch incase you didn't get that.

I was also talking about now, not the future.

I was comparing DS's games to GBA's in the same amount of time after launch incase you didn't get that.

I was also talking about now, not the future.

me2002

The GBA had an impressive start but support tailored off after a few years. Developers tended to use it as a dumping ground for ports (as did Nintendo). The GBA is for all intents and purposes dead

The DS will last longer, the DS is more successful, the DS has better third party support, the DS has better first party support. The DS wins

[QUOTE="me2002"]

I was comparing DS's games to GBA's in the same amount of time after launch incase you didn't get that.

I was also talking about now, not the future.

NorthlandMan

The GBA had an impressive start but tailored off after a few years. Devlopers tended to use it as a dumping ground for ports (as did Nintendo). The GBA is for all intents and purposes dead

The DS will last longe, the Ds is more successful, the DS has better third party support, the DS has better first party support. The DS wins

If its got better 1st and 3rd party support it sure is not showing it.

This might improve in the future but no one can see the future.

You see strong 1st and 3rd party. I see devs (including nintendo) cashing in on carp games. I'm not gonna argue with you because its obvious we're not gonna see the other's point of view.