DS Lite will continue to pwn PsP.....

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#1 casinater
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Almost one year after launch DS Lite is still flying of the shelves.  It took me forever to find one...i went on ebay to see what they are going for and i wasn't about to pay 160+ dollars for a ds.  It is and will continue to be THE most popular system out there in the coming year....
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#2 greenleaflink
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like duh
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#3 Ontain
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i think even the fanboys have accepted this now. they're on to wii denial now.
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in sales.......yes, in everything else NO. remember good sales don't mean that the product is good. for ex. Burger King games outsold GeOW, does it mean they were better......... Hell NO.
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I dont know how because in my opinion the PSP has better games..but I will be getting a DS just for the New Pokemon game...than sell it 2 months later
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i think even the fanboys have accepted this now. they're on to wii denial now.Ontain
BUT... EVERY1 VOTEZ. Ha.
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#7 LosDaddie
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Yup, and the DS Lite is clearly the superior product with superior games. We are watching Nintendo's rise this gen.
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#8 t2wave
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Just wait until Dragon Quest, Pokemon, and LoZ: Phantom Hourglass come out.
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#9 Ontain
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in sales.......yes, in everything else NO. remember good sales don't mean that the product is good. for ex. Burger King games outsold GeOW, does it mean they were better......... Hell NO.muscleserge
this is a really weak argument. first, you're comparing a 4 buck game and 60 buck game to 2 consoles. second, sales will ultimately determine what console gets the most developer support. that's the most important thing. that's not something that car, movie, or restaurant analogies take into account.
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I dunno, the DS lite is selling well, and I have one, but I got so bored with it after about a month. As a hand held game console and nothing more, it's really not that great. Most of the games really, really suck. Like all other Nintendo consoles, the first party is excellent, far better than anything on the PSP, but still it's a feast or famine scenario. Most of the games I've played don't really benefit from the touch screen, not like I couldn't have just used a button and a cursor to accomplish the same effect.

I agree it will sell well, but I really think it's because of the price. The PSP is just as good a gaming device, with consistantly more quality titles, but it's also a PVP, MP3 player and an internet device. I really get alot of use out of it. But at 2 or 3 times the cost of a DS, people looking for games don't see the difference.

Really to be fair, comparing the DS and the PSP is about as fair as comparing the PS3 and the Wii. They're two totally different types of devices. With only one small area of commonality.

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^ Castlevania games are sweet. Starting with the GBA game. Phoenix Wright, too. 3rd party, both.
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I dont know how because in my opinion the PSP has better games..but I will be getting a DS just for the New Pokemon game...than sell it 2 months laterpoopinloop32
Hell yeah dude. Pokemon FTW. No matter how hard I try to hate Pokemon, I always end up buying the new games on the first day. Its like a cute and cuddly version of ghonnerea. It just won't go away.
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[QUOTE="poopinloop32"]I dont know how because in my opinion the PSP has better games..but I will be getting a DS just for the New Pokemon game...than sell it 2 months laterCicatraz_ESP
Hell yeah dude. Pokemon FTW. No matter how hard I try to hate Pokemon, I always end up buying the new games on the first day. Its like a cute and cuddly version of ghonnerea. It just won't go away.

I havent played pokemon since silver....this should be interesting
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[QUOTE="poopinloop32"]I dont know how because in my opinion the PSP has better games..but I will be getting a DS just for the New Pokemon game...than sell it 2 months laterCicatraz_ESP
Hell yeah dude. Pokemon FTW. No matter how hard I try to hate Pokemon, I always end up buying the new games on the first day. Its like a cute and cuddly version of ghonnerea. It just won't go away.

yeah, I can't wait for this pokemon game :D
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I havent played pokemon since silver....this should be interestingpoopinloop32
I haven't played since yellow. I'll probably get this and Dragon Quest...
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[QUOTE="poopinloop32"] I havent played pokemon since silver....this should be interestingJandurin
I haven't played since yellow. I'll probably get this and Dragon Quest...

like I said I think the PSP games are better and regret selling it...the only game I want for the DS are pokemon and AOE2
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[QUOTE="muscleserge"]in sales.......yes, in everything else NO. remember good sales don't mean that the product is good. for ex. Burger King games outsold GeOW, does it mean they were better......... Hell NO.Ontain
this is a really weak argument. first, you're comparing a 4 buck game and 60 buck game to 2 consoles. second, sales will ultimately determine what console gets the most developer support. that's the most important thing. that's not something that car, movie, or restaurant analogies take into account.

I was trying to make a point that sales don't mean everything, also take into account that the DS came out earlier. It is just the blind statements like the DS owns the PSP, that annoy me. DS owns the PSP in Sales. Games are based on preferences. Graphics, PSP owns the DS Multifunctionality, PSP owns the DS Screen size, PSP owns the DS Remember that PSP won alot of DS vs PSP articles.
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^ Castlevania games are sweet. Starting with the GBA game. Phoenix Wright, too. 3rd party, both.Jandurin

I never once said that there was no good third party DS games. But you have to admit, the DS has alot of less than decent third party games.

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[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="muscleserge"]in sales.......yes, in everything else NO. remember good sales don't mean that the product is good. for ex. Burger King games outsold GeOW, does it mean they were better......... Hell NO.muscleserge
this is a really weak argument. first, you're comparing a 4 buck game and 60 buck game to 2 consoles. second, sales will ultimately determine what console gets the most developer support. that's the most important thing. that's not something that car, movie, or restaurant analogies take into account.

I was trying to make a point that sales don't mean everything, also take into account that the DS came out earlier. It is just the blind statements like the DS owns the PSP, that annoy me. DS owns the PSP in Sales. Games are based on preferences. Graphics, PSP owns the DS Multifunctionality, PSP owns the DS Screen size, PSP owns the DS Remember that PSP won alot of DS vs PSP articles.

games are based on preference. but overall the market has chosen the DS games over the psp games. the ratio of DS to PSP games sales dwarfs even that of DS to psp hardware sales. so while individuals might sometimes prefer the psp for games, the market prefers the DS and the 3rd party devs have taken note of this now. it also seems that graphics and multifunctionality are all of lesser importance than hardcore gamers and analysts expected.
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^ Castlevania games are sweet. Starting with the GBA game. Phoenix Wright, too. 3rd party, both.Jandurin
You share my line of thinking. ;)
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Hello there, Captain Obvious! Where have you been lately?
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in sales.......yes, in everything else NO. remember good sales don't mean that the product is good. for ex. Burger King games outsold GeOW, does it mean they were better......... Hell NO.muscleserge
LAMEST example EVER!!! you are comparing a $4.99 game that took maybe 2 days to make, to Gears... which is still selling tons??? Seriously???
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[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="muscleserge"]in sales.......yes, in everything else NO. remember good sales don't mean that the product is good. for ex. Burger King games outsold GeOW, does it mean they were better......... Hell NO.muscleserge
this is a really weak argument. first, you're comparing a 4 buck game and 60 buck game to 2 consoles. second, sales will ultimately determine what console gets the most developer support. that's the most important thing. that's not something that car, movie, or restaurant analogies take into account.

I was trying to make a point that sales don't mean everything, also take into account that the DS came out earlier. It is just the blind statements like the DS owns the PSP, that annoy me. DS owns the PSP in Sales. Games are based on preferences. Graphics, PSP owns the DS Multifunctionality, PSP owns the DS Screen size, PSP owns the DS Remember that PSP won alot of DS vs PSP articles.

Sales don't mean everything??? So when GC was selling poorly, and not getting 3rd party support, that was ok right? But I'm willing to bet you didn't think that way when PS2 was winning in SALES against GC right??
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I would buy a DS just for Phantom Hourglass, even though I already have a lite.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]^ Castlevania games are sweet. Starting with the GBA game. Phoenix Wright, too. 3rd party, both.MythManiac
You share my line of thinking. ;)

He also shares my line of thinking!
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I would buy a DS just for Phantom Hourglass, even though I already have a lite.metroidman7_11
?? You already have a DS lite, but you would buy another one to play Zelda??
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when pokemon is released in teh states, all hell will break loose
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I dunno, I don't find myself with any lack of stuff to play on DS.  Pheonix Wright, Hotel Dusk, Yoshi's Island, and both Castlevanias were very highly rated and all third party.

PSP's doing alright for games.  However, a lot of the games on it are not really "pick up and play" affairs, and a handheld that costs more than $200 is a bit of a weird proposition.  The PSP is a pretty good system, but the DS is a better *portable*.

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I dunno, I don't find myself with any lack of stuff to play on DS.  Pheonix Wright, Hotel Dusk, Yoshi's Island, and both Castlevanias were very highly rated and all third party.

PSP's doing alright for games.  However, a lot of the games on it are not really "pick up and play" affairs, and a handheld that costs more than $200 is a bit of a weird proposition.  The PSP is a pretty good system, but the DS is a better *portable*.

ReverieDLM

Correction... That game was first party, small error... but point well made.

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I'd say the DS is the best system to get right now, console or handheld, and it's even better if you don't own a GBA. There's so many good games for it i'm considering robbing my nearest games shop.
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the ds can be used for mp3's and internet as well amongst other things!
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Well it doesnt hurt that every 10 year old has a ds, i own one and i own a psp and enjoy my psp alot more then the ds lite. Firstly the psp just plain has more great games, yes this is my opinion but its also gamespots and igns opinion as well. 2ndly dont lie about this, unless you have super small hands after about 10 minutes the dslite cramps my hands! WTF is up with that, be truthful does this happen to anyone else? cause it happens to me and my bro and my hands arent that big. While the psp feels great. The ds is better for 10 minute sessions or 15 minute sessions but if your going to play longer then the psp is the way to go.Oh and might i add, sales wise the psp is a success, and at 200$ for a handheld, thats pretty good considering the ds is only 130 bucks, i think sales would def rocket for the psp if they had a price drop.

  • Load times Ds>>>>>>>psp
  • Graphics PSP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ds
  • library of games psp>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ds
  • Battery life ds>>>>>>>>>>>>>psp
  • Multimedia functions psp>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ds
  • online psp>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ds
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That would stand true, except that remakes of all the greatest CAstlevania games are coming to PSP. Which is going to really up the ante for not buying the PSP. Its only 230$ and it does so much. But its really stupid to not have a wii, and have a PS3 and 360. It just doesn't make sense?
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[QUOTE="metroidman7_11"]I would buy a DS just for Phantom Hourglass, even though I already have a lite.MegamanX400
?? You already have a DS lite, but you would buy another one to play Zelda??

I would if there was a Zelda DS...Man that would be nice

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Well it doesnt hurt that every 10 year old has a ds, i own one and i own a psp and enjoy my psp alot more then the ds lite. Firstly the psp just plain has more great games, yes this is my opinion but its also gamespots and igns opinion as well. 2ndly dont lie about this, unless you have super small hands after about 10 minutes the dslite cramps my hands! WTF is up with that, be truthful does this happen to anyone else? cause it happens to me and my bro and my hands arent that big. While the psp feels great. The ds is better for 10 minute sessions or 15 minute sessions but if your going to play longer then the psp is the way to go.Oh and might i add, sales wise the psp is a success, and at 200$ for a handheld, thats pretty good considering the ds is only 130 bucks, i think sales would def rocket for the psp if they had a price drop.

  • Load times Ds>>>>>>>psp
  • Graphics PSP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ds
  • library of games psp>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ds
  • Battery life ds>>>>>>>>>>>>>psp
  • Multimedia functions psp>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ds
  • online psp>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ds
Bren128
You're holding it the wrong way. You're most likely pushing your hands in right? Like a cradle? That's not how it's supposed to be. You're supposed to let your hands relax and spread out, give the DS Lite some air. It also doesn't feel heavy since it's very light!
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I'd say the DS is the best system to get right now, console or handheld, and it's even better if you don't own a GBA. There's so many good games for it i'm considering robbing my nearest games shop.Sparkys
I'll agree with that pretty much. Except the robbing part. You're liable to get caught, shot, or taught... a lesson.
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PSP is starting to turn the corner as far as good games imo. The time between the releases of great games like Syphon Filter, and GTA: VCS was pretty big, but VCS, MGS: PO, and R&C: Size Matters are all great games that came out fairly close to each other. And there is plenty of other great stuff on the horizon. The PSP's biggest problem is that it's still too much for a handheld, they need to come down to at least $150 for the Premium Pack I've seen floating around, and $130 for the Core. Then it will start to fly off shelves, at least here in the U.S.
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PSP is starting to turn the corner as far as good games imo. The time between the releases of great games like Syphon Filter, and GTA: VCS was pretty big, but VCS, MGS: PO, and R&C: Size Matters are all great games that came out fairly close to each other. And there is plenty of other great stuff on the horizon. The PSP's biggest problem is that it's still too much for a handheld, they need to come down to at least $150 for the Premium Pack I've seen floating around, and $130 for the Core. Then it will start to fly off shelves, at least here in the U.S.Gamer46
I agree, if Sony wants it to sell, they need to lower down the price. In fact, I think you can buy PS2s that are lower than the price of the PSP.
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#39 FrenziedRaldo24
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Almost one year after launch DS Lite is still flying of the shelves.  It took me forever to find one...i went on ebay to see what they are going for and i wasn't about to pay 160+ dollars for a ds.  It is and will continue to be THE most popular system out there in the coming year....casinater
The point of this topic was soely to point out that DS is outselling PSP? Theyre sold out in your area...good to know:|

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[QUOTE="casinater"]Almost one year after launch DS Lite is still flying of the shelves. It took me forever to find one...i went on ebay to see what they are going for and i wasn't about to pay 160+ dollars for a ds. It is and will continue to be THE most popular system out there in the coming year....FrenziedRaldo24

The point of this topic was soely to point out that DS is outselling PSP? Theyre sold out in your area...good to know:|

This is Sytem Wars, of course the points of some topics will be one gaming sytem outselling another,
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Hotel Dusk and Phoenix Wright are the sort of games which put PSP to shame. And the funniest thing is 20% of PSP owners in Japan use Homebrew of some sort. LMAO! And people wonder why software sales are garbage, Hardware PSP is selling well.
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in sales.......yes, in everything else NO. remember good sales don't mean that the product is good. for ex. Burger King games outsold GeOW, does it mean they were better......... Hell NO.muscleserge
they did sinse when i wanna know this. oh is cause those games come with the bk meals. then whatever no biggie. but as far as consoles are concerned yeah sales mean big the ds sells better and has better games, simply put nintendo has a monopoly on the handheld department even sony couldnt touch them, i thought the psp would give nintendo a run for there money but no
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ds is obviusly the winner but the psps seems to be releasing alot of good games this year and now that i waited like 2 years  to buy one theyre are a couple games that are worth getting a psp for. But still the handful of good games that the psp has is nowhere compared to the truck load of games that i prefer on the ds. that meaning theres about 18 i want for a psp and theres like 30 more games for the ds that look awsome on top of the 28 games i already have.
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I agree, if Sony wants it to sell, they need to lower down the price. In fact, I think you can buy PS2s that are lower than the price of the PSP.
Platyphyllum
PS2 = 100 new, with all the cheap games anyone could EVER want. PSP = 200? 250? (I think it depends on the premium pack or not).
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[QUOTE="Platyphyllum"]I agree, if Sony wants it to sell, they need to lower down the price. In fact, I think you can buy PS2s that are lower than the price of the PSP.
Jandurin
PS2 = 100 new, with all the cheap games anyone could EVER want. PSP = 200? 250? (I think it depends on the premium pack or not).

Exactly, that's a reason I find the PSP to be irrelevant. The games on the PS2 are cheap, especially the Greatest Hits titles, not to mention it's $100 cheaper and there are still good cames that have been coming out for it like Rogue Galaxy and God of War II. The PSP doesn't have as many great games as the PS2 or even the DS, and you already have a computer to go on the internet, or to download music. These factors are abso-posi-lutely going to make the PSP an irrelevant gaming machine in the future.