Demon's souls or legend of zelda? I pick the former.
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Demon's Souls. You should probably be a little more specific about just which LOZ you're talking about (I know you mean Twilight Princess but you only mentioned it in the poll).
Demon's Souls was a great game while I could'nt bring myself to finish TP. Not that it was bad, I just lost interest along the way and found it inferior to WW.
demon's souls for me.
my interest for Zelda games really made a 180 after windwaker, which is the best imo.
Atleast this is a better matchup than yesterday's "Demon's Souls vs Fable 3" :lol:
What's up with the DS comparisons anyways? I mean, yeah it's one of the greatest RPGs of all ******* time, but it doesn't have to be compared to everything! :P
what makes zelda a better game?anyone who knows anything about what makes a game great will choose Zelda.
theuncharted34
[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="savebattery"]Zelda by the widest margin imaginable. I don't see what all the fuss is about Demon's Souls. It isn't bad, but I didn't think it was anything special, either.Dead-MemoriesBasically this. I question the people who list Demon's Souls as one of the "greatest RPGs of all time." What games have you been playing? what is more troubling is that people keep saying it is an RPG, which is isn't at all. it transcends the action genre with RPG elements. it doesn't belong in the RPG genre though.
It's an RPG. That's just how it works.
[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]what makes zelda a better game?anyone who knows anything about what makes a game great will choose Zelda.
Dead-Memories
the formula, settings, the amazing mood every zelda game creates, accessiblity, gameplay, exploration, combat, music, enemy design, character design. ect. Zelda is the pinnacle of gaming, has been since 1986.
[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="savebattery"]Zelda by the widest margin imaginable. I don't see what all the fuss is about Demon's Souls. It isn't bad, but I didn't think it was anything special, either.Dead-MemoriesBasically this. I question the people who list Demon's Souls as one of the "greatest RPGs of all time." What games have you been playing? what is more troubling is that people keep saying it is an RPG, which is isn't at all. it transcends the action genre with RPG elements. it doesn't belong in the RPG genre though.
zelda is an action rpg.
How dare you even mention Demon's Souls in the same sentence as the best series of all time :P. Seriously though, for me its LoZ but a LOOOOONG shot. SS is going to be better then both I bet though.
[QUOTE="theuncharted34"][QUOTE="Dead-Memories"] what is more troubling is that people keep saying it is an RPG, which is isn't at all. it transcends the action genre with RPG elements. it doesn't belong in the RPG genre though. Diviniuz
zelda is an action rpg.
not really its more of an action adventure game with roleplaying elements, I don't see how the console versions of zelda are considered RPGsthat's what i meant really.
what is more troubling is that people keep saying it is an RPG, which is isn't at all. it transcends the action genre with RPG elements. it doesn't belong in the RPG genre though.[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Basically this. I question the people who list Demon's Souls as one of the "greatest RPGs of all time." What games have you been playing?Master_ShakeXXX
It's an RPG. That's just how it works.
This is an RPG
This is an action adventure with character progression
You guys do realise that OP is talking about Twilight Princess, right? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that one of the weaker installments in the Zelda franchise? I mean come on, ya gotta be at the top of your game if you're gonna take on DS :P
Change it to OoT vs DS. That will be more interesting :D
Combat (with the lock on) makes a bit of Demon's souls like the PS3's version of LoZ
Atleast this is a better matchup than yesterday's "Demon's Souls vs Fable 3" :lol:
What's up with the DS comparisons anyways? I mean, yeah it's one of the greatest RPGs of all ******* time, but it doesn't have to be compared to everything! :P
Master_ShakeXXX
Also, Ocarina of Time, I would have to say, is probably superior to Demon's Souls.
You guys do realise that OP is talking about Twilight Princess, right? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that one of the weaker installments in the Zelda franchise? I mean come on, ya gotta be at the top of your game if you're gonna take on DS :P
Change it to OoT vs DS. That will be more interesting :D
Master_ShakeXXX
no. TP is amazing, you've hence been corrected :) People hate on that game, when they don't really know what they're talking about.
You guys do realise that OP is talking about Twilight Princess, right? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that one of the weaker installments in the Zelda franchise? I mean come on, ya gotta be at the top of your game if you're gonna take on DS :P
Change it to OoT vs DS. That will be more interesting :D
Master_ShakeXXX
The weakest installment of zelda is better then DS :P.
It is an RPG but only loosely because it has not story to speak of or decisions that need to be made by the character.demons souls is an rpg. Not sure what your trying to do really.
theuncharted34
you've played demon's souls for what? an hour? :lol: alright there.demons souls is an rpg. Not sure what your trying to do really.
theuncharted34
[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]
You guys do realise that OP is talking about Twilight Princess, right? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that one of the weaker installments in the Zelda franchise? I mean come on, ya gotta be at the top of your game if you're gonna take on DS :P
Change it to OoT vs DS. That will be more interesting :D
NaveedLife
The weakest installment of zelda is better then DS :P.
Not with the wolf link sections, poor pacing and fetch quests its not :pwhat is more troubling is that people keep saying it is an RPG, which is isn't at all. it transcends the action genre with RPG elements. it doesn't belong in the RPG genre though.[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Basically this. I question the people who list Demon's Souls as one of the "greatest RPGs of all time." What games have you been playing?theuncharted34
zelda is an action rpg.
Maybe Zelda 2 and a Link to the Past (to some extent) but thats about it. The Zelda franchise is a Action Adventure franchise (some of their titles feature light RPG elements but thats about it)[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]you've played demon's souls for what? an hour? :lol: alright there.demons souls is an rpg. Not sure what your trying to do really.
Dead-Memories
arguing against logic will get you nowhere. Played it for about 12 actually. Didn't care for it. It's an rpg.
[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]It is an RPG but only loosely because it has not story to speak of or decisions that need to be made by the character. You do realise there are a lot of RPGs that aren't story driven (especially a lot of dungeon crawlers).demons souls is an rpg. Not sure what your trying to do really.
gamebreakerz__
you've played demon's souls for what? an hour? :lol: alright there.[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]
demons souls is an rpg. Not sure what your trying to do really.
theuncharted34
arguing against logic will get you nowhere. Played it for about 12 actually. Didn't care for it. It's an rpg.
you couldn't have played for 12 hours and only gotten to the tower knight. as was mentioned before. Demon's Souls is an action adventure with character progression. there is no RPG to it except Soul Level. which is just a measure of your time spent with the game.Twilight is enjoyed only by closet-furries and Demons is overrated by overzealous otakus clouded by hubris...
TheOneMan
what is a closet - furrie? i don't even...
[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]It is an RPG but only loosely because it has no story to speak of or decisions that need to be made by the character.demons souls is an rpg. Not sure what your trying to do really.
gamebreakerz__
People always assume this but there's actually a GOOD back-story there for the people who take the time to piece it all together. Hell, just look it up on Wikipedia. It seriously isn't bad.
Demons souls was so good why exactly?
Story = crap to nonexistant
graphics = crap (for PS3)
lasting appeal = (oh yay I get to play through a lackluster game again and NOTHING changes)
Customization = ....THIS is what they call customization on today's standards?
Seriously I bought and beat DS and do not get the hype. I hyped it to be a 3D diablo 1 and thought I would love it. not so much.
It is an RPG but only loosely because it has no story to speak of or decisions that need to be made by the character.[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]
demons souls is an rpg. Not sure what your trying to do really.
Master_ShakeXXX
People always assume this but there's actually a GOOD back-story there for the people who take the time to piece it all together. Hell, just look it up on Wikipedia. It seriously isn't bad.
the whole back story is basically atheism/logic vs faith it's just one big LOL at religion really.demons souls is an rpg. Not sure what your trying to do really.
It is an RPG but only loosely because it has not story to speak of or decisions that need to be made by the character. Actually, it does have both of those. The latter you'd know if you played the game and the former you'd know if you paid a little attention while playing it.[QUOTE="theuncharted34"][QUOTE="Dead-Memories"] you've played demon's souls for what? an hour? :lol: alright there. Dead-Memories
arguing against logic will get you nowhere. Played it for about 12 actually. Didn't care for it. It's an rpg.
you couldn't have played for 12 hours and only gotten to the tower knight. as was mentioned before. Demon's Souls is an action adventure with character progression. there is no RPG to it except Soul Level. which is just a measure of your time spent with the game.:lol: yeah but I got to the tower knight 5 times. :P Nah, it is a great game, but it just wasn't for me. The game really isn't for everybody, and it's really no where near as good as zelda. I meant what I said in my first post.
I'm not really defending DS but have other RPGs this gen especially the ones on console? They all lack customization.Customization = ....THIS is what they call customization on today's standards?
NaveedLife
[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]It is an RPG but only loosely because it has not story to speak of or decisions that need to be made by the character. Actually, it does have both of those. The latter you'd know if you played the game and the former you'd know if you paid a little attention while playing it.demons souls is an rpg. Not sure what your trying to do really.
Skittles_McGee
that should be all on the matter of whether or not DS is an rpg 8)
[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"][QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"] It is an RPG but only loosely because it has no story to speak of or decisions that need to be made by the character.Dead-Memories
People always assume this but there's actually a GOOD back-story there for the people who take the time to piece it all together. Hell, just look it up on Wikipedia. It seriously isn't bad.
the whole back story is basically atheism/logic vs faith it's just one big LOL at religion really.That is a concept, not a frikkin story. The ending was like...what? It was just pure lameness :P.
[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]
You guys do realise that OP is talking about Twilight Princess, right? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that one of the weaker installments in the Zelda franchise? I mean come on, ya gotta be at the top of your game if you're gonna take on DS :P
Change it to OoT vs DS. That will be more interesting :D
theuncharted34
no. TP is amazing, you've hence been corrected :) People hate on that game, when they don't really know what they're talking about.
Or maybe they "hate" on it because they played it and found it to be nothing special as previous LoZs.
Been playing LoZ since the NES and found TP has nothing to make it stand out among previous titles... Bad game?? probably not, but definitely very very weak for a LoZ, as stated before, it is the weakest title in the series.
the whole back story is basically atheism/logic vs faith it's just one big LOL at religion really.[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]
People always assume this but there's actually a GOOD back-story there for the people who take the time to piece it all together. Hell, just look it up on Wikipedia. It seriously isn't bad.
NaveedLife
That is a concept, not a frikkin story. The ending was like...what? It was just pure lameness :P.
I think he was too busy killing stuff to pay any attention :P
I'm not really defending DS but have other RPGs this gen especially the ones on console? They all lack customization.[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]
Customization = ....THIS is what they call customization on today's standards?
jasonharris48
That is pretty true. I dont like fallout 3, oblivion, fable II, or this game because they all lack a lot. Especially in the customization department. I mean JRPG's, diablo II, and other RPG's have awesome customization where you feel custom and not just like everyone else that has the 1 item out of a whopping 30....ooooh wow! Borderlands is the best one in awhile for this and even that pales in comparison to games like Diablo II.
this just proved that demon's souls had so compelling a setting, design values, and brilliance to stand on its own merits. it had a "story" just not your idea of one. you actually had to become apart of it to appreciate it.Demons souls was so good why exactly?
Story = crap to nonexistant
graphics = crap (for PS3)
lasting appeal = (oh yay I get to play through a lackluster game again and NOTHING changes)
Customization = ....THIS is what they call customization on today's standards?
Seriously I bought and beat DS and do not get the hype. I hyped it to be a 3D diablo 1 and thought I would love it. not so much.
NaveedLife
[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]
[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]
You guys do realise that OP is talking about Twilight Princess, right? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that one of the weaker installments in the Zelda franchise? I mean come on, ya gotta be at the top of your game if you're gonna take on DS :P
Change it to OoT vs DS. That will be more interesting :D
GreenGoblin2099
no. TP is amazing, you've hence been corrected :) People hate on that game, when they don't really know what they're talking about.
Or maybe they "hate" on it because they played it and found it to be nothing special as previous LoZs.
Been playing LoZ since the NES and found TP has nothing to make it stand out among previous titles... Bad game?? probably not, but definitely very very weak for a LoZ, as stated before, it is the weakest title in the series.
I honestly don't think people who hate on it even played it. The game is amazing, it shouldn't have to do anything new when it does everything extremely well with great settings and a well told dark theme.
Demons souls was so good why exactly?
Story = crap to nonexistantLook into it. There's a story there and it aint bad.
graphics = crap (for PS3) Eh, NO.
lasting appeal = (oh yay I get to play through a lackluster game again and NOTHING changes) Starting to doubt you even played it...
Customization = ....THIS is what they call customization on today's standards?
Seriously I bought and beat DS and do not get the hype. I hyped it to be a 3D diablo 1 and thought I would love it. not so much.
NaveedLife
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