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#1 dovberg
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it is a very common rumor lately saying that the new nintendo handheld will be using the nvidia tegra 2 chip. While we've all expected nintendo to just stay one generation behind it's consoles graphically, if you look up what this is compared to you will hear "current high end consoles" that basically means 360 & PS3 graphics. I know most people want to know about backwards compatability and touch screens but I'm hoping for a GB2010, something with virtual console to add all the gb&ds games with games all in current gen using some kind of cartridge like the ds(there are micro memory sticks that can hold 16gbs, that sounds good enough to me). To me honestly, just porting all the top current gen console games would be something I would want right away. Could anyone pictureCODMW2 portable?

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#2 alextherussian
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Yeah, I can, but odds are like in this case, Im not going to want to pay for it...

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#3 DethSkematik
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A handheld having graphics nearly identical to the PS3 and 360 would be insane! But with specs like those, I'm kind of worried about the price. $250 is the most I'm ever willing to spend on something like a handheld.
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#4 mexicangordo
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Nintendo's next handheld wont have Ps3/360 graphics. That is just over-exaggeration, however, there is no doubt that it will be very strong and affordable.

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#5 themyth01
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If you think a portable device can do PS3/360 graphics in the near future, you're in for a disappointment.
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#6 ThePlothole
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it is a very common rumor lately saying that the new nintendo handheld will be using the nvidia tegra 2 chip. While we've all expected nintendo to just stay one generation behind it's consoles graphically, if you look up what this is compared to you will hear "current high end consoles" that basically means 360 & PS3 graphics.

dovberg

That's... pretty unlikely. :|

I know most people want to know about backwards compatability and touch screens but I'm hoping for a GB2010, something with virtual console to add all the gb&ds games with games...

dovberg

Even if the DS games were only available through a VC, you would still need a touch screen.

And honestly, besides a little nostalgia what is the point in bringing back the "Game Boy"?

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#7 razgriz_101
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doubt its possible right now without being prohibatively expensive and a total battery hog.

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#8 hakanakumono
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A big reason why the DS is so successful is BECAUSE it's not as powerful as the PS3 and 360. I doubt Nintendo is going to release anything more powerful than a gamecube.

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#9 LegatoSkyheart
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I just want to see what it is and what it can do. I'm not big on the rumor deal for this handheld yet.

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#10 gamecubepad
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The GBA was somewhere between a NES and SNES, and the DS is between the SNES and the N64 concerning gfx capabilities. It's likely the DS2 will be halfway between the N64 and GC.

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#11 Teuf_
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Yes. Nintendo, the company whose current-gen console uses refined GameCube hardware, is going to launch a handheld with graphics that rival the PS3.

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#12 LegatoSkyheart
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Yes. Nintendo, the company whose current-gen console uses refined GameCube hardware, is going to launch a handheld with graphics that rival the PS3.

Teufelhuhn

I don't know, they kinda Surprised me with the jump from Gameboy Advance to DS.

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#13 Epak_
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If you think a portable device can do PS3/360 graphics in the near future, you're in for a disappointment.themyth01

A huge one at that. That's just impossible.

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#14 JigglyWiggly_
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It's not possible. The fastest arm processors that are coming are a dual core. Intel's atom won't evolve soon enough for a small handheld, not that it will be close to being fast enough. Wait till 2015 for this.
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#15 dovberg
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read up on the tegra 2, it is said to be comparable to th current gen graphics,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpGtu_ZkwqA

it is all over the place that this will be what will be used for the newnintendo hand held. They also mention this is not a large energy consumer, in the same presentation but think you can find it on another clip. I would be shocked to see nintendo actually do this but it always seems nintendo always does one "normal"console(something with up to date with graphics,then one weird one(n64, wii, n64 was ahead of the game). Also I just thought I might mention the GBA is a 32 bit hand held, it was not between nes and snes, it simply stayed more oriented twards 2d, same as DS, it is more advanced than the N64,slightly also just not being used in the same fashion(one of the first games was Mario64 with TONs more).

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#16 OreoMilkshake
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The GBA was somewhere between a NES and SNES, and the DS is between the SNES and the N64 concerning gfx capabilities. It's likely the DS2 will be halfway between the N64 and GC.

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The GBA is above the SNES.
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#17 Cherokee_Jack
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It's not supposed to be the Tegra 2. Just the Tegra. So...yeah.
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#18 Cherokee_Jack
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The GBA was somewhere between a NES and SNESgamecubepad


It was a hell of a lot more powerful than the NES.

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#19 Silenthps
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if it releases in like... late 2011 then maybe its possible. but i have a feeling its gonna release alongside the new pokemon game
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

Yes. Nintendo, the company whose current-gen console uses refined GameCube hardware, is going to launch a handheld with graphics that rival the PS3.

LegatoSkyheart

I don't know, they kinda Surprised me with the jump from Gameboy Advance to DS.

From DS graphics to PS3 graphics is a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay bigger jump than GBA to DS. And I wasn't surprised by the GBA to DS jump at all, since the GBA was said to have PS1 graphics back then. Which it didn't. DS is closer to that. The DS was also said to have N64 graphics. Which it doesn't.

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#21 ThePlothole
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read up on the tegra 2, it is said to be comparable to th current gen graphics,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpGtu_ZkwqA

dovberg

If it is their demo didn't really show that. It reminds me of an original Xbox game. Maybe the lighting is a little better.

(Not that this wouldn't be impressive in itself for a handheld.)

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#22 Cerberus_Legion
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I'd be fine with Gamecube calibre graphics for a handheld. More is just overkill.

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#23 moistsandwich
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I am very excited to see what Nintendo's next handheld will be. I am more than ready for a new handheld. I want something with a touch screen... but this time I want some power behind Nintendos HH.... something on par with the Gamecube or Wii would be AWESOME! ANything more, is just GRAVY!

Cmon' Ninty.... give us the DS2 this Christmas.

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#24 gamewhat
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This sounds interesting. Got a link? If true I'd like to get me one.

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#25 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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This sounds interesting. Got a link? If true I'd like to get me one.

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Not gonna happen. Your DS would become a toaster and the battery would run flat in minutes.
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#26 dovberg
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some places say tegra 2 some places don't say anything specific, or say something like tegra. This is all rumors so no one should get bent out of shape over it.

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#27 Totalgym9000
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you guys that actually think nintendos next handheld will have ps3 like graphics are insane, seriously.....Not even there console has anything close to what the ps3 can do
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#28 dovberg
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what he's showing is not what is so impressive it is just what he is saying that is. Either way regular tegra is about xbox quality and tegra 2 is about 360 quality(or so it's claimed) , either one would be great.

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#30 jrhawk42
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yea they kinda do a bait n switch w/ the pitch. Unreal 3 is a ps3/pc/360 game, and engine. They use the same engine for the Tegra. That doesn't mean the Tegra is as powerful as a 360, or ps3. Basically the unreal 3 only requires a 2.0ghz cpu, 512 ram, and a NVIDIA 6200+ graphics card. That's not even the engine that's what a game made on the engine required. I would hope they pushed the Unreal 3 engine a little bit when designing the game.

That's not to say the Tegra 2 isn't going to be powerful, but just don't expect ps3/360 graphics. Expect something more along the lines of a more powerful Wii, which for a nintendo handheld would be pretty awesome. I think officially Nvidia stated that the Tegra 2 was 2X more powerful than it's predecessor, and to be more specific "a dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 processor, with a clock frequency of 1GHz, with NVIDIA graphics capable of handling multimedia files in HD."

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#31 AirGuitarist87
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it is a very common rumor lately..dovberg
No it's not. ;)
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#32 II_Seraphim_II
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I have a better chance of going to space and sleeping with every beautiful actress WHILE in space than DS2 having PS3 graphics.
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#33 blacktorn
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Nintendo's next handheld wont have Ps3/360 graphics. That is just over-exaggeration, however, there is no doubt that it will be very strong and affordable.

mexicangordo
Agreed,even if the tegra 2 is so good as people have said it still won't provide 360/ps3 level of graphics.Maybe if they release it in 2012 it has a shot at doing it but not in 2011 unless nvidia release a tegra 3 thats around 2-4 times more powerful than the tegra 2.So it's a 20/80 chance i think.
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#34 dovberg
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My point is just connect the possible dots at everything claimed, not that it will for sure be that, really I have seen stories from almost everyone who runs rumors, that brought up the nvidia tegra ds2 thing, according to them it is like a current gen console, that is all, in the same time they say it is like a high end pc from anywhere to 2-4 years ago, I'm not exactly sure what a high end pc was 4 years ago, but either way it's a whole lot better than what nintendo is giving us from either ds or wii.

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#35 Pixel-Pirate
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Nintendo has always been about being the cheaper more value console/handheld even if they are more underpowered. I would not expect them to make a 400 dollar handheld.

I really REALLY REALLY doubt it.

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#36 dovberg
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http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/tegra-2-runs-unreal-engine-3-puts-high-end-console-3d-graphics-in-your-pocket-2010018/

this one basically says everything

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#37 AppleBlade
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GBA = SNES

DS=N64 (For the people that dispute this go look at Super Mario 64 DS, The Zelda Games, Metroid Prime Hunters,Dementium: The Ward etc., Just because devs focus more on 2D for the DS doesn't mean it lacks the power to do N64 calibur 3D)

DS2 is going to probably be in the PSP/PS2/GameCube territory.

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#38 Shielder7
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Yes. Nintendo, the company whose current-gen console uses refined GameCube hardware, is going to launch a handheld with graphics that rival the PS3.

Teufelhuhn
Try telling sheep that I have about 3 sheep wanting to fight me to the death because I suggested such things.
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#39 ThePlothole
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

Yes. Nintendo, the company whose current-gen console uses refined GameCube hardware, is going to launch a handheld with graphics that rival the PS3.

Shielder7
Try telling sheep that I have about 3 sheep wanting to fight me to the death because I suggested such things.

More important than Nintendo's existing hardware is an understanding of their core hardware strategy: Unlike Sony and Microsoft, Nintendo designs their consoles to immediately profitable at a price that will sell effectively. If Tegra 2 is the magic pill that can pull off high performance on the cheap, I see no reason why they wouldn't swallow it. But honestly these ideas seem rather incompatible in reality. An original Terga sounds a bit more likely, though we'll just have to wait and see.

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#40 shabab12
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shame on you guys thinking this has any truth to it.
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

Yes. Nintendo, the company whose current-gen console uses refined GameCube hardware, is going to launch a handheld with graphics that rival the PS3.

Litchie

I don't know, they kinda Surprised me with the jump from Gameboy Advance to DS.

From DS graphics to PS3 graphics is a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay bigger jump than GBA to DS. And I wasn't surprised by the GBA to DS jump at all, since the GBA was said to have PS1 graphics back then. Which it didn't. DS is closer to that. The DS was also said to have N64 graphics. Which it doesn't.

Super Mario 64 looks much better on the DS than N64.

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#42 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="Litchie"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

I don't know, they kinda Surprised me with the jump from Gameboy Advance to DS.

Nintendo_Man

From DS graphics to PS3 graphics is a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay bigger jump than GBA to DS. And I wasn't surprised by the GBA to DS jump at all, since the GBA was said to have PS1 graphics back then. Which it didn't. DS is closer to that. The DS was also said to have N64 graphics. Which it doesn't.

Super Mario 64 looks much better on the DS than N64.

Indeed. The DS easily has N64 graphics. NSMB, Super Mario 64 DS, Zelda Phantom hourglass...

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#43 Disturbed123
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[QUOTE="Litchie"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

I don't know, they kinda Surprised me with the jump from Gameboy Advance to DS.

Nintendo_Man

From DS graphics to PS3 graphics is a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay bigger jump than GBA to DS. And I wasn't surprised by the GBA to DS jump at all, since the GBA was said to have PS1 graphics back then. Which it didn't. DS is closer to that. The DS was also said to have N64 graphics. Which it doesn't.

Super Mario 64 looks much better on the DS than N64.

obviously, look at the size of the screen.

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#44 Easyle
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Yes. Nintendo, the company whose current-gen console uses refined GameCube hardware, is going to launch a handheld with graphics that rival the PS3.

Teufelhuhn
LOL!
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#45 Silenthps
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honestly though, when you think about the fact that PSP was able to have close-to PS2 graphics in 2004... a DS having close-to PS3 graphics 6 years later doesn't seem THAT farfetched.
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#46 racing1750
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A handheld console with PS3 graphics would kill the battery in no time, and thats not even mentioning the price!
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#47 Tessellation
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That inferior? i rather have PC like graphics on that DS2..
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#48 TheColbert
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That would be so weird if the DS2 had better graphics than the Wii. No chance it has Ps3 graphics although I am expecting them to look like last gen, which is pretty much what the Wii has.
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#49 donalbane
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If Nintendo had a platform that was a graphics leader amoung it's peers, I would be extremely surprised. Color me skeptical.
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LOL teh power or teh cell