DSi lackluster launch further shows Nintendo doesn't care about core gamers?

The DSi is kind of like how the Gameboy Color was to the Gameboy. It's still the same system but has enough upgrades to stand on its own.

But the similarities end there. Because for any new system's launch the games is what's most important.

When Gameboy Color came out, we got Link's Awakening DX and Tetris DX. But when the DSi came out, all we got are a bunch of casual-ware stuff like Wario Snapped, a mini Brain Age game, a Master of Illusion mini game, and Art Aquia?

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The DSi is kind of like how the Gameboy Color was to the Gameboy. It's still the same system but has enough upgrades to stand on its own.

But the similarities end there. Because for any new system's launch the games is what's most important.

When Gameboy Color came out, we got Link's Awakening DX and Tetris DX. But when the DSi came out, all we got are a bunch of casual-ware stuff like Wario Snapped, a mini Brain Age game, a Master of Illusion mini game, and Art Aquia?

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ASK_Story

but still its the same system so why would you have to release a new ds game with it. people could still just buy a reg ds to play the same games. and what launced on ds ware is pretty good for week 1 thats 6 ttiles and 5 of those six got cose to an 8 rating. The system also sold like 300k in 2 days in europe

You clearly haven't played one of the most addicting puzzle games in recent memory in Art S (tyle) Aquia

with Dr Mario, Mighty Flip Champs, Real Soccer 09, Mr Driller, Katamari coming to DSi in the next month or so you're overreacting

and nintendo doesn't care about the core?

yea, that's why their making Pikmin 3, Punch Out, Sin and Punishment 2, Mario and Luigi3, Zelda Spirit Tracks, and just finished Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon, Wario Land Shake It, Rhtym Heaven.

They don't care about the core, thats why they're pushing for international release of Professor Layton 2 and 3

they have more core games in development than casual titles for Wii, why does Wii Fit/Wii Music/Wii sports overshadow Fire Emblem, Battalion Wars, Advance Wars, Super Mrio Galaxy, Super Smash Bros Brawl, Exicte series, Metroid prime 3, Super Paper Mario, Mario and Luigi RPGs, Mario Kart, Zelda Phantom/Twilight/Spirit Tracks and all the many others? (additionally Pikmin 3)

seriously i like playing games a lot, i'm very much dedicated to it, but not everything has to be about me.

(btw maybe these DSi ware games aren't the most stunning thing BECAUSE nintendo is waiting to launch cool stuff with the DSi retail games? they said they were waiting until launch to announce some of the DSi retail games that won't play on DS's)

i like how you're saying a launch line up, which is traditionally a slow time for all consoles, reflective on a hardware companies entire attitude towards consumers now

don't you understand and downloadable game store will have more of the masters of illusion type games coz its easier to sell them there than the high costs of selling at retail with low potential for sales? you know their budget for DSiware is much smaller, thus why it comes out on there?

Plz, check out the Art S(tyle) series on DSiware, all of their games are getting raving reviews in japan and at pocketgamer in the UK, such as hactolife, CODE, and of course the wonderful Aquia

DSi is lackluster, but time may improve it.

[QUOTE="ASK_Story"]

The DSi is kind of like how the Gameboy Color was to the Gameboy. It's still the same system but has enough upgrades to stand on its own.

But the similarities end there. Because for any new system's launch the games is what's most important.

When Gameboy Color came out, we got Link's Awakening DX and Tetris DX. But when the DSi came out, all we got are a bunch of casual-ware stuff like Wario Snapped, a mini Brain Age game, a Master of Illusion mini game, and Art Aquia?

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nick31189

i'm not going into detail on how it is different tech wise, i've had to do that so much. just believe me it is, or else WarioWare Snapped couldn't be done on it

[QUOTE="ASK_Story"]

The DSi is kind of like how the Gameboy Color was to the Gameboy. It's still the same system but has enough upgrades to stand on its own.

But the similarities end there. Because for any new system's launch the games is what's most important.

When Gameboy Color came out, we got Link's Awakening DX and Tetris DX. But when the DSi came out, all we got are a bunch of casual-ware stuff like Wario Snapped, a mini Brain Age game, a Master of Illusion mini game, and Art Aquia?

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nick31189

Actually it has 4x the amount of ram, and I believe aroumd 2x the CPU speed.

the only reason i want a dsi is because it has a bigger screen than the other nintendo handhelds, im hoping nintendo will have snes and nes games as downloadable content also

the only reason i want a dsi is because it has a bigger screen than the other nintendo handhelds, im hoping nintendo will have snes and nes games as downloadable content also

Ciocio3I3

there are rumors of GB/GBC/GBA games

lets hope at e3 we hear something

The DSi is kind of like how the Gameboy Color was to the Gameboy. It's still the same system but has enough upgrades to stand on its own.

But the similarities end there. Because for any new system's launch the games is what's most important.

When Gameboy Color came out, we got Link's Awakening DX and Tetris DX. But when the DSi came out, all we got are a bunch of casual-ware stuff like Wario Snapped, a mini Brain Age game, a Master of Illusion mini game, and Art Aquia?

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ASK_Story

[QUOTE="Ciocio3I3"]

the only reason i want a dsi is because it has a bigger screen than the other nintendo handhelds, im hoping nintendo will have snes and nes games as downloadable content also

darth-pyschosis

there are rumors of GB/GBC/GBA games

lets hope at e3 we hear something

[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

[QUOTE="Ciocio3I3"]

the only reason i want a dsi is because it has a bigger screen than the other nintendo handhelds, im hoping nintendo will have snes and nes games as downloadable content also

-CheeseEater-

there are rumors of GB/GBC/GBA games

lets hope at e3 we hear something

[QUOTE="-CheeseEater-"][QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"] i hope so too

there are rumors of GB/GBC/GBA games

lets hope at e3 we hear something

Tylendal

I would so buy a DSi for some audio and photo editing that can be done 10x better on a PC. Yeah so worth it. I would trade GBA B/C in a second. /sarcasm

I thought this was obvious by now but I guess not. The DSi's target demographic is not core gamers. Its casuals and non-gamers. Just look at the commercial. They spent like 90% of the commercial talking about how you can "play around with your photos", take photos, and make 10 second voice recordings. Then their like "oh yeah and it plays DS games too". As enticing as 10 second voice recordings sounds (:lol:) I think for most of us who already own a DS Lite and could care less about useless multimedia features that can be done better on PC, PSP, and many other electronic devices, the DSi is a pass until some quality DSi-only games and DSiWare apps/games come out.

Isnt it just a different version of the DS? Like the gameboy Advance and SP. You cant really compare it using Gameboy and Gameboy color.

The DSi isn't so appealing at the moment because DSiWare isn't in full swing. Hopefully, by E3, it'll have some must-have titles. As well as a Virtual Handheld.

And until then, core gamers should be satisfied with GTA:CW. Remember that your average core gamers will only really be playing handhelds when they don't have access to a console, so they shouldn't complete CW too quickly.

Yea, we should start basing the success of a system entirely off of its first-day launch lineup. That's a good idea, TC.

get it through your heads guys the DSi is a new handheld no matte rhow many times nintendo lies to you about it (GBC, DS same thing)

1. better hardware providing games undoable on previous console (WarioWare for ex.)

2. New enhanced retail games

3. new downloadable games

4. new multimedia features, SDHC slot, bigger screens, better WiFi only usable in DSi apps, better speakers, internal memory

Guys it isn't BC with GBA BECAUSE its a DSi that plays DSi games AND IS BC with the original DS

tell me, plz how a console with a new name (like GBC, GBA,) that has new exclusive games bought at retail, new games for download, much more multimedia features, and improved and overhauled user intreface isn't a new console.

tell me how that isn't. don't say why you're not satisfied with the upgrade, why you'd get something else, why blah blah

tell me, on a technical level why it isn't

(plz don't say Nintendo says it isn't, if it isn't why would they be making games for it, why would they be repeating the same lies they did with GBC and DS?)

The old Nintendo died when the Gamecube did, simple.

the only reason i want a dsi is because it has a bigger screen than the other nintendo handhelds, im hoping nintendo will have snes and nes games as downloadable content also

Ciocio3I3

The old Nintendo died when the Gamecube did, simple.

SemiMaster

you mean the old nitnendo that "gave" more for the hardcore gamers, despite hardcore gamers treating them like garbage?

Nobody whines more than "core gamers". DS, DSL, DSi, so far their mainly designed to do the same thing, play DS games. We've known about the DSi and what it could and couldn't do for almost a year now. In all that time, no retail DSi games have been announced. Yes, DSi enhanced and DSi game have been announced as possibilities and are most likely coming at some point, but what they are, we have no idea at this point.

Downloadable games, the launch lineup was known well in advance. True they aren't the gameboy vc we all wanted, but I've had fun with the game I downloaded and the free browser too. I imagine the DSiWare will grow just like the WiiWare library. Did I need a DSi at launch, no. However, I fully expect that in a while, the DSi craze will hit, and they'll be more tricky to track down. I still remember trying to get both my parents DSls for Christmas.

I'd say a core game would be excited about being able to play these new downloadable games, which they couldn't do on the DSL. If you're a core gamer and haven't already got a DS in some form, I don't think you're very much of a "core gamer". I can't imagine too many "core gamers" don't have a way to play their GBA games if the want to (DS, GBA, GBA player)

"DSi lackluster launch"

If this statement is what your arguement is based on then where is your proof that its even true?

DSi is lackluster, but time may improve it.

SolidTy

get it through your heads guys the DSi is a new handheld no matte rhow many times nintendo lies to you about it (GBC, DS same thing)

1. better hardware providing games undoable on previous console (WarioWare for ex.)

2. New enhanced retail games

3. new downloadable games

4. new multimedia features, SDHC slot, bigger screens, better WiFi only usable in DSi apps, better speakers, internal memory

Guys it isn't BC with GBA BECAUSE its a DSi that plays DSi games AND IS BC with the original DS

tell me, plz how a console with a new name (like GBC, GBA,) that has new exclusive games bought at retail, new games for download, much more multimedia features, and improved and overhauled user intreface isn't a new console.

tell me how that isn't. don't say why you're not satisfied with the upgrade, why you'd get something else, why blah blah

tell me, on a technical level why it isn't

(plz don't say Nintendo says it isn't, if it isn't why would they be making games for it, why would they be repeating the same lies they did with GBC and DS?)

darth-pyschosis

Ok I've had it with your billion posts about the DSi being an entirely new handheld.

The PSP Slim adds twice the RAM of the original and unlocks faster UMD reading speed giving it access to games performing much better then on the original PSP, OMG it's an entirely new system :o. Plus it has skype which the original PSP didn't have.

The PSP Brite has a mic and the same specs of the PSP Slim thus it's also an entirely new system compared to the original. Plus with the fact that every PSP Brite owners have access to a mic, new gameplay methods could be added to games.

So we're actually waiting for a PSP4 !?!?!?!?

That's how silly you sound like. Nintendo said it's another DS, I think they'd be that last people to speak of such about the DSi if it was truly a new system. They said it , that's how it is and it's therefore a fact. Get over it.

repeating the same lies... lies? Dude are you for real? :?

[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

get it through your heads guys the DSi is a new handheld no matte rhow many times nintendo lies to you about it (GBC, DS same thing)

1. better hardware providing games undoable on previous console (WarioWare for ex.)

2. New enhanced retail games

3. new downloadable games

4. new multimedia features, SDHC slot, bigger screens, better WiFi only usable in DSi apps, better speakers, internal memory

Guys it isn't BC with GBA BECAUSE its a DSi that plays DSi games AND IS BC with the original DS

tell me, plz how a console with a new name (like GBC, GBA,) that has new exclusive games bought at retail, new games for download, much more multimedia features, and improved and overhauled user intreface isn't a new console.

tell me how that isn't. don't say why you're not satisfied with the upgrade, why you'd get something else, why blah blah

tell me, on a technical level why it isn't

(plz don't say Nintendo says it isn't, if it isn't why would they be making games for it, why would they be repeating the same lies they did with GBC and DS?)

lebanese_boy

Ok I've had it with your billion posts about the DSi being an entirely new handheld.

The PSP Slim adds twice the RAM of the original and unlocks faster UMD reading speed giving it access to games performing much better then on the original PSP, OMG it's an entirely new system :o. Plus it has skype which the original PSP didn't have.

The PSP Brite has a mic and the same specs of the PSP Slim thus it's also an entirely new system compared to the original. Plus with the fact that every PSP Brite owners have access to a mic, new gameplay methods could be added to games.

So we're actually waiting for a PSP4 !?!?!?!?

That's how silly you sound like. Nintendo said it's another DS, I think they'd be that last people to speak of such about the DSi if it was truly a new system. They said it , that's how it is and it's therefore a fact. Get over it.

repeating the same lies... lies? Dude are you for real? :?

Judging from some of that guys posts,I'm fairly sure he works for Nintendo in some capacity.:P

[QUOTE="lebanese_boy"]

[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

get it through your heads guys the DSi is a new handheld no matte rhow many times nintendo lies to you about it (GBC, DS same thing)

1. better hardware providing games undoable on previous console (WarioWare for ex.)

2. New enhanced retail games

3. new downloadable games

4. new multimedia features, SDHC slot, bigger screens, better WiFi only usable in DSi apps, better speakers, internal memory

Guys it isn't BC with GBA BECAUSE its a DSi that plays DSi games AND IS BC with the original DS

tell me, plz how a console with a new name (like GBC, GBA,) that has new exclusive games bought at retail, new games for download, much more multimedia features, and improved and overhauled user intreface isn't a new console.

tell me how that isn't. don't say why you're not satisfied with the upgrade, why you'd get something else, why blah blah

tell me, on a technical level why it isn't

(plz don't say Nintendo says it isn't, if it isn't why would they be making games for it, why would they be repeating the same lies they did with GBC and DS?)

stvee101

Ok I've had it with your billion posts about the DSi being an entirely new handheld.

The PSP Slim adds twice the RAM of the original and unlocks faster UMD reading speed giving it access to games performing much better then on the original PSP, OMG it's an entirely new system :o. Plus it has skype which the original PSP didn't have.

The PSP Brite has a mic and the same specs of the PSP Slim thus it's also an entirely new system compared to the original. Plus with the fact that every PSP Brite owners have access to a mic, new gameplay methods could be added to games.

So we're actually waiting for a PSP4 !?!?!?!?

That's how silly you sound like. Nintendo said it's another DS, I think they'd be that last people to speak of such about the DSi if it was truly a new system. They said it , that's how it is and it's therefore a fact. Get over it.

repeating the same lies... lies? Dude are you for real? :?

Judging from some of that guys posts,I'm fairly sure he works for Nintendo in some capacity.:P

I wouldn't be surprised if he owned Nintendo. That might explain the major sales. Either that, or he's crazy good at PR (or bad, depending how you look at it).

how does this say anything about nintendo caring about hardcore gamers or not? It's not a completely new system. Were you expecting a complete launch line-up or something?

Hell the awesome game library is already there.

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The DSi is not a new system. It is understandable that there's no special launch titles.IronBass

It's like complaining that the psp 3000 doesn't have any launch games!Shinobishyguy

Exactly.

It's an slightly updated versionof a current gen system. It has not being marketed otherwise, and expecting a "launch lune-up" doesn't make sense at all.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]It's like complaining that the psp 3000 doesn't have any launch games!IronBass

Exactly.

It's an slightly updated versionof a current gen system. It has not being marketed otherwise, and expecting a "launch lune-up" doesn't make sense at all.

[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

get it through your heads guys the DSi is a new handheld no matte rhow many times nintendo lies to you about it (GBC, DS same thing)

1. better hardware providing games undoable on previous console (WarioWare for ex.)

2. New enhanced retail games

3. new downloadable games

4. new multimedia features, SDHC slot, bigger screens, better WiFi only usable in DSi apps, better speakers, internal memory

Guys it isn't BC with GBA BECAUSE its a DSi that plays DSi games AND IS BC with the original DS

tell me, plz how a console with a new name (like GBC, GBA,) that has new exclusive games bought at retail, new games for download, much more multimedia features, and improved and overhauled user intreface isn't a new console.

tell me how that isn't. don't say why you're not satisfied with the upgrade, why you'd get something else, why blah blah

tell me, on a technical level why it isn't

(plz don't say Nintendo says it isn't, if it isn't why would they be making games for it, why would they be repeating the same lies they did with GBC and DS?)

lebanese_boy

Ok I've had it with your billion posts about the DSi being an entirely new handheld.

The PSP Slim adds twice the RAM of the original and unlocks faster UMD reading speed giving it access to games performing much better then on the original PSP, OMG it's an entirely new system :o. Plus it has skype which the original PSP didn't have.

The PSP Brite has a mic and the same specs of the PSP Slim thus it's also an entirely new system compared to the original. Plus with the fact that every PSP Brite owners have access to a mic, new gameplay methods could be added to games.

So we're actually waiting for a PSP4 !?!?!?!?

That's how silly you sound like. Nintendo said it's another DS, I think they'd be that last people to speak of such about the DSi if it was truly a new system. They said it , that's how it is and it's therefore a fact. Get over it.

repeating the same lies... lies? Dude are you for real? :?

so did Sony make games only playable on the PSP Slim? Coz nintendo is making games only playable on the DSi, therefore, its a new system

The thing stopping me from buying a DS is the huge libary of casual games infact the only game i would actually buy is GTA chinatown wars.TX360

The old Nintendo died when the Gamecube did, simple.

SemiMaster