Duel of big-hitters, February 2009: F.E.A.R. 2 vs. Killzone 2

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#1 Salt_The_Fries
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So, SW dwellers, what do you think will stand a better chance in this fight? F.E.A.R. 2 : Project Origin is a sequel to critically acclaimed first person shooter by established, and very well regarded developer. Killzone 2 is sequel to one of the biggest flops last generation by the developer who isn't known for technical prowess, nor quality games. Which one will be your winner, or game of the choice for that matter? And another related question, what will sell more? Well, given F.E.A.R. 2 is multiplat, then probably it will sell more, but on the other hand, one can never underestimate Sony's PR.

Anyways, my pick is F.E.A.R. 2, I don't have PS3 anyways, and Killzone 2 is not a game that would make me buy one, nor I don't think it will even score close to F.E.A.R. 2.

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#2 bethwo
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Killzone 2 for me, I loved F.E.A.R and I will be getting F.E.A.R 2 for sure, but I also loved Killzone. And I can just see myself enjoying Killzone 2 more.
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#3 BioShockOwnz
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Killzone 2 FTW! I hate, I repeat, I hate F.E.A.R. with a passion. A ho-hum FPS with shoehorned half***** horror elements. It had good A.I. when it first released, but Project Origin won't. It'll be more dark and depressing FPS action with no soul of its own. No thank you!
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#4 Kratos-Sackboy
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Killzone 2 FTW! I hate, I repeat, I hate F.E.A.R. with a passion. A ho-hum FPS with shoehorned half***** horror elements. It had good A.I. when it first released, but Project Origin won't. It'll be more dark and depressing FPS action with no soul of its own. No thank you!BioShockOwnz

Agreed, but how can you hate F.E.A.R its an amazing game!

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#5 Mlauthemighty
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I get the feeling that F.E.A.R. 2 will be the better game but will have the crappier gfx.
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#6 Salt_The_Fries
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I fear that F.E.A.R. 2 could suffer on consoles graphics-wise like Far Cry 2 did.
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#7 -Sniper99-
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I still haven't beaten F.E.A.R. It scared the **** outta me as a kid when it came out:(
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#8 Guybrush_3
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I don't own a PS3 so I am deffinitly not picking up KZ2 (I am not sure that I would even if I owned a PS3)

I am not sure if I will pick up FEAR2 or not. I like the first one.

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#9 -Sniper99-
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oh and Killzone 2 for me. The game looks ****ing amazing
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No matter who wins, my wallet loses.
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#11 Giancar
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loved FEAR to death, very amazing game for me.... but I have to see more of the 2nd one, not fully sold
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#12 sirk1264
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I'm definitely more pumped for Fear 2.
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Killzone 2 FTW! I hate, I repeat, I hate F.E.A.R. with a passion. A ho-hum FPS with shoehorned half***** horror elements. It had good A.I. when it first released, but Project Origin won't. It'll be more dark and depressing FPS action with no soul of its own. No thank you!Kratos-Sackboy

Agreed, but how can you hate F.E.A.R its an amazing game!

It's a crappy horror game and an even crappier shooter.

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#14 Salt_The_Fries
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[QUOTE="Kratos-Sackboy"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Killzone 2 FTW! I hate, I repeat, I hate F.E.A.R. with a passion. A ho-hum FPS with shoehorned half***** horror elements. It had good A.I. when it first released, but Project Origin won't. It'll be more dark and depressing FPS action with no soul of its own. No thank you!BioShockOwnz

Agreed, but how can you hate F.E.A.R its an amazing game!

It's a crappy horror game and an even crappier shooter.

Burke: I - You know I expected more from you - I thought you'd be smarter than this.

See what I did here:roll: ?

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Killzone 2 FTW! I hate, I repeat, I hate F.E.A.R. with a passion. A ho-hum FPS with shoehorned half***** horror elements. It had good A.I. when it first released, but Project Origin won't. It'll be more dark and depressing FPS action with no soul of its own. No thank you!BioShockOwnz
This. Being a long term fan of horror games, F.E.A.R.'s attempts at scares felt almost insulting. It's like the developers didn't even try.
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[QUOTE="Kratos-Sackboy"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Killzone 2 FTW! I hate, I repeat, I hate F.E.A.R. with a passion. A ho-hum FPS with shoehorned half***** horror elements. It had good A.I. when it first released, but Project Origin won't. It'll be more dark and depressing FPS action with no soul of its own. No thank you!BioShockOwnz

Agreed, but how can you hate F.E.A.R its an amazing game!

It's a crappy horror game and an even crappier shooter.

A crappier shooter? I certainly hope you are being sarcastic.
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#17 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Kratos-Sackboy"]

Agreed, but how can you hate F.E.A.R its an amazing game!

sirk1264

It's a crappy horror game and an even crappier shooter.

A crappier shooter? I certainly hope you are being sarcastic.

Nope.

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#18 sirk1264
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[QUOTE="sirk1264"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

It's a crappy horror game and an even crappier shooter.

BioShockOwnz

A crappier shooter? I certainly hope you are being sarcastic.

Nope.

Wow well not everyone will like every game but I mean FEAR has probably some of the best AI I've ever seen in an FPS.
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#19 Salt_The_Fries
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="sirk1264"] A crappier shooter? I certainly hope you are being sarcastic. sirk1264

Nope.

Wow well not everyone will like every game but I mean FEAR has probably some of the best AI I've ever seen in an FPS.

True to that. I was amazed by the AI. It even won Gamespot's 2005 AI Award.
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As you guys can see, I said it had good A.I...

Sadly, a game needs more than good A.I. to be good. A boring office corridor crawler shooter with a generic Japanese horror girl following me was the definition of "OMG!... not awesome".

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#21 EVOLV3
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Killzone 2 FTW! I hate, I repeat, I hate F.E.A.R. with a passion. A ho-hum FPS with shoehorned half***** horror elements. It had good A.I. when it first released, but Project Origin won't. It'll be more dark and depressing FPS action with no soul of its own. No thank you!BioShockOwnz


Whats this?!?! Bioshockownz favouring Killzone 2 over another game?!?!
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#22 PotatoSandWitch
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both of them look completely boring to play
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#23 ninjaxams
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actually i liked the original KZ more than fear. fear had some amazing combat mechanics minus the overused bullet time garbage. the AI was great. everything else about the game was terrible. KZ2 is looking to be awesome in every way. really look'n forward to the MP as well...
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Killzone 2 FTW! I hate, I repeat, I hate F.E.A.R. with a passion. A ho-hum FPS with shoehorned half***** horror elements. It had good A.I. when it first released, but Project Origin won't. It'll be more dark and depressing FPS action with no soul of its own. No thank you!EVOLV3


Whats this?!?! Bioshockownz favouring Killzone 2 over another game?!?!

That's probably just a testament to how boring F.E.A.R. really was. Give me a decent FPS and a decent horror title any day over this lame attempt at combining the two.
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[QUOTE="EVOLV3"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Killzone 2 FTW! I hate, I repeat, I hate F.E.A.R. with a passion. A ho-hum FPS with shoehorned half***** horror elements. It had good A.I. when it first released, but Project Origin won't. It'll be more dark and depressing FPS action with no soul of its own. No thank you!Silent-Hal


Whats this?!?! Bioshockownz favouring Killzone 2 over another game?!?!

That's probably just a testament to how boring F.E.A.R. really was. Give me a decent FPS and a decent horror title any day over this lame attempt at combining the two.

Lame attempt? Fear is a great horror/shooter in alot of ways. The gun play is faced pace along with a decent story for the horror. Honestly the people who bash fear I think are the people who never played it or the people who played the Console versions which were not very good.
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#26 Salt_The_Fries
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I thought F.E.A.R. was immersive. I did not perceive it in "scary" / "not scary" categories, but it was definetly immersive.
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#27 kozzy1234
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FEAR2, although i thought FEAR1 was very overrated (Great AI and gun battles, but i HATED the level design and story. But on the other hand.... FEAR was ALOT better then Killzone 1 was (6/10 and thats being nice, game was garbage).
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[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"][QUOTE="EVOLV3"]

Whats this?!?! Bioshockownz favouring Killzone 2 over another game?!?! JangoWuzHere
That's probably just a testament to how boring F.E.A.R. really was. Give me a decent FPS and a decent horror title any day over this lame attempt at combining the two.

Lame attempt? Fear is a great horror/shooter in alot of ways. The gun play is faced pace along with a decent story for the horror. Honestly the people who bash fear I think are the people who never played it or the people who played the Console versions which were not very good.

I'd call it a half-decent FPS at best, but as a horror game? The story was bad, predictable and badly told (being spoon fed all the info via answering machines? ugh...) and it's attempts to scare fell flat on their face every single time. It's been many a year since the first Resident Evil, most good horror titles have moved on from the kind of primitive techniques F.E.A.R. uses to scare.
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#29 BIOWAREISKING
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f.e.a.r. 1 has some of the best gunplay around so kill zone 2 can sit in its mediocre corner. cant wait to turn those settings up
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[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"][QUOTE="EVOLV3"]

Whats this?!?! Bioshockownz favouring Killzone 2 over another game?!?! JangoWuzHere
That's probably just a testament to how boring F.E.A.R. really was. Give me a decent FPS and a decent horror title any day over this lame attempt at combining the two.

Lame attempt? Fear is a great horror/shooter in alot of ways. The gun play is faced pace along with a decent story for the horror. Honestly the people who bash fear I think are the people who never played it or the people who played the Console versions which were not very good.

Double fail. Honestly? Check the honesty at the door, Mister. :P

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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Killzone 2 FTW! I hate, I repeat, I hate F.E.A.R. with a passion. A ho-hum FPS with shoehorned half***** horror elements. It had good A.I. when it first released, but Project Origin won't. It'll be more dark and depressing FPS action with no soul of its own. No thank you!EVOLV3


Whats this?!?! Bioshockownz favouring Killzone 2 over another game?!?!

I know I read that and I wondered if that was actually sincere lmao. F.E.A.R isn't a bad game by any means though. It was pretty enjoyable and had some neat creepy moments. I do think Killzone 2 destroys it in a matchup though.
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#32 kidcool189
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i just hope fear 2 doesnt follow the gen's trend of multiplayer focused shooters, and has a great single player experience, very much looking forward to it
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[QUOTE="EVOLV3"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Killzone 2 FTW! I hate, I repeat, I hate F.E.A.R. with a passion. A ho-hum FPS with shoehorned half***** horror elements. It had good A.I. when it first released, but Project Origin won't. It'll be more dark and depressing FPS action with no soul of its own. No thank you!I_Helios_I


Whats this?!?! Bioshockownz favouring Killzone 2 over another game?!?!

I know I read that and I wondered if that was actually sincere lmao. F.E.A.R isn't a bad game by any means though. It was pretty enjoyable and had some neat creepy moments. I do think Killzone 2 destroys it in a matchup though.

My F.E.A.R. hate goes deeper than my MGS hate...:P

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#34 deactivated-5f4694ac412a8
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FEAR 1 wasn't even that good of a game. :? The only reason I gave it an 8.0 is because, at the time, it was one of the first FPSs I've ever played, the very first on the PC, and the third one I beat. The other two I beat were Red Steel and Medal of Honor: Heroes 2. I gave both of those a 7.5, and would've given FEAR a 7.5, but wanted to show that I liked it better than Red Steel and Medal of Honor: Heroes 2. Now I've played more FPSs, and I would probably give it a 6.0 now. What ****. Killzone 2 also looks like ****... Damn, it's a lose-lose situation here.
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[QUOTE="I_Helios_I"][QUOTE="EVOLV3"]

Whats this?!?! Bioshockownz favouring Killzone 2 over another game?!?! BioShockOwnz

I know I read that and I wondered if that was actually sincere lmao. F.E.A.R isn't a bad game by any means though. It was pretty enjoyable and had some neat creepy moments. I do think Killzone 2 destroys it in a matchup though.

My F.E.A.R. hate goes deeper than my MGS hate...:P

bioshockownz, i demand you to tell me who that girl was in ur old avatar, she seemed very familiar and its been bugging me! :P
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#36 micky4889
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Im getting both :) But i have a feeling im going to enjoy killzone 2 more
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#37 Rhubarb9
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As you guys can see, I said it had good A.I...

Sadly, a game needs more than good A.I. to be good. A boring office corridor crawler shooter with a generic Japanese horror girl following me was the definition of "OMG!... not awesome".

BioShockOwnz
yeah! and randomly a guy with blood on his face would say some random "spooky" sentences then turn to ashes "You can't escape us."etc


I'm really looking forward to Killzone, like battlefield 2 but without air support or vehicles, which I didn't enjoy
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#38 Patatopan
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I never got into F.E.A.R., but if I did I would probably be more pumped for it since i was fairly dissapointed with killzone, though, killzone 2 looks to be pretty good and I'm more hyped for it at the moment.
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#39 gunswordfist
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Easily F.E.A.R. 2. Don't get me wrong, I've been hyped about K2 longer then I have Project Origin but F.E.A.R. 2 has a much better chance at being...better.
I still haven't beaten F.E.A.R. It scared the **** outta me as a kid when it came out:(-Sniper99-
The game is not that old, is it?
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#40 gunswordfist
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I thought F.E.A.R. was immersive. I did not perceive it in "scary" / "not scary" categories, but it was definetly immersive.Salt_The_Fries
Yeah most horror movies aren't scary. Even the popular ones. So it's funny when people say a game is bad b/c its not scary.
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[QUOTE="I_Helios_I"][QUOTE="EVOLV3"]

Whats this?!?! Bioshockownz favouring Killzone 2 over another game?!?! BioShockOwnz

I know I read that and I wondered if that was actually sincere lmao. F.E.A.R isn't a bad game by any means though. It was pretty enjoyable and had some neat creepy moments. I do think Killzone 2 destroys it in a matchup though.

My F.E.A.R. hate goes deeper than my MGS hate...:P

F.E.A.R. must have drop kicked your dog of a skyscraper!
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#42 AnimalStak
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i have played very many shooters and i still love f.e.a.r

i think its one of the best shooters ever. I played the game on the pc a little while after it released and i thought it was one of the best looking games. I played all settings max at res @ 1680 x 1050, but most people didnt play the game that way at first and probably lost immersion

i love the gunplay it was soo perfect i felt the game was much much better than half life 2 (which might as well be considered a puzzle game and not a shooter)

it had a great physics engine for the time; the ragdoll enemies were a lot of fun especially pinning them against the wall with 12in spikes. The guns were loud and awsome and the way the enemies would talk to you and each other created great atmosphere.

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i have played very many shooters and i still love f.e.a.r

i think its one of the best shooters ever. I played the game on the pc a little while after it released and i thought it was one of the best looking games. I played all settings max at res @ 1680 x 1050, but most people didnt play the game that way at first and probably lost immersion

i love the gunplay it was soo perfect i felt the game was much much better than half life 2 (which might as well be considered a puzzle game and not a shooter)

it had a great physics engine for the time; the ragdoll enemies were a lot of fun especially pinning them against the wall with 12in spikes. The guns were loud and awsome and the way the enemies would talk to you and each other created great atmosphere.

AnimalStak

As you can see by the picture I posted, I bought it at launch for $54.99. Played it on the highest settings. Yeah, it stunk... bad!

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#44 FragTycoon
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I actually enjoyed and played KZ more then F.E.A.R.

But that's kinda in the past.

From what I've seen of KZ2 as well as what people are saying about beta, I really don't think Fear can compare.

to each there own *shrug*

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#45 Nike_Air
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Killzone 2 = buy , because of the multiplayer. FEAR 2 = rental

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#46 Pdiddy105
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FEAR 2 is the sequel to an AAA game, Killzone 2 is the sequel to a 6.9 flop. Guerilla has yet to prove themselves, so im going with FEAR 2.

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#47 usmcjdk6
Member since 2007 • 1240 Posts
FEAR will be the better game. But seeing as how I couldn't even beat the first one (I quit after those invisible stalker things game into the game, seeing as how I sucked wind badly just trying to get to that part...it became obvious I wasn't going to beat it), I will probably be passing on both.
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#48 ronniepage588
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fear was highly overrated, still thought it was fun though at times. but totally overrated. Killzone 2 will totally outsell FEAR even though its a PS3 exclusive.
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#49 Episode_Eve
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I'm MUCH more interested in and hyped for KZZ. It's appeal and mechanics suit me perfectly :D. I'll probably rent FEAR 2.
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#50 Episode_Eve
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Killzone 2 = buy , because of the multiplayer. FEAR 2 = rental

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