EA 1st quarter of 2012 financials - PC made EA more money than PS3

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/08/01/ea-financial-results-revealed/

According to the first quarter EA financials, PC was responsible for a larger amount of revennue than the PS3 this quarter, and brought i nearly as much as the xbox 360.

Pretty cool stuff, though here are some things to kepe in mind:

- The numbers posted are revennue, not PROFIT. In terms of profit PC probably took the larger share of the three, since most of the added revennue according to EA came from digital sources (origin, other digital platforms) and that represents more profit per sale than physical discs (up to 2/3s more).

- During that first quarter, Sony and Microsoft probably spent a combined several hundred million dollars marketing and promoting their systems on TV, internet, and radio/print. In that ame time period 0 dollars was spent promoting and marketing the PC as a gmaing platform.

The PC usually lags for EA in terms of revennue, it's still usually responsible for about 1/3 of it, or about 1/2 of what the consoles (combined) bring in, so it's pretty impressive.

Xbox 360 CANNOT be beaten.

PS3 is pretty much a dead platform now. No games no sales.blue_hazy_basic

nothing really big came out on the ps3 so far this year, 2013 I expect those numbers to be very very different witht the Last of Us and beyond souls hitting the stores and God of war.

nothing really big came out on the ps3 so far this year, 2013 I expect those numbers to be very very different witht the Last of Us and beyond souls hitting the stores and God of war.

Chris_Williams

That makes sense that Sony games will help drive EA's revenue.

PS3 is usually always last when it comes to multiplatform games.

at the same time Ea did launch bf3 which is probably still selling and it has a primarily PC following, a lot of it could be down to that and the fact they can cut out the middle man using origin its unsurprising the PC has a bigger profit yeild.

nothing really big came out on the ps3 so far this year, 2013 I expect those numbers to be very very different witht the Last of Us and beyond souls hitting the stores and God of war.

Chris_Williams

Possibly, though I don't think any of those are EA games.

Admittedly one of the flaws of this comparison is that things don't always nealty line up in a particular publishers products accross various platforms. So one quarter cna be good for the PS3 because EA just released a couple of game son it, and it may suck for the 360, but only because EA products didn't come out that quarter. Next quarter might be different.

I don't know of any huge thigns happening from EA last quarter for the PC though. I think the most popular things happening were Diablo, SKyrim and a few MMO's, free to play experiences (like Blacklight, Tribes, Day Z).

So my main point - that the PC is thriving (EA called it the fastest growing gaming platform), stands. I don't see many consolites making the argument that the PC is dead, but there are a few.

at the same time Ea did launch bf3 which is probably still selling and it has a primarily PC following, a lot of it could be down to that and the fact they can cut out the middle man using origin its unsurprising the PC has a bigger profit yeild.

razgriz_101

Again, those numebrs are NOT profit, they are revenue.

You're right in that PC probably comes out on top of both PS3 and Xbox in terms of PROFIT, for the very reasons you mention.

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

nothing really big came out on the ps3 so far this year, 2013 I expect those numbers to be very very different witht the Last of Us and beyond souls hitting the stores and God of war.

Kinthalis

Possibly, though I don't think any of those are EA games.

Admittedly one of the flaws of this comparison is that things don't always nealty line up in a particular publishers products accross various platforms. So one quarter cna be good for the PS3 because EA just released a couple of game son it, and it may suck for the 360, but only because EA products didn't come out that quarter. Next quarter might be different.

I don't know of any huge thigns happening from EA last quarter for the PC though. I think the most popular things happening were Diablo, SKyrim and a few MMO's, free to play experiences (like Blacklight, Tribes, Day Z).

So my main point - that the PC is thriving (EA called it the fastest growing gaming platform), stands. I don't see many consolites making the argument that the PC is dead, but there are a few.

at the same time Ea did launch bf3 which is probably still selling and it has a primarily PC following, a lot of it could be down to that and the fact they can cut out the middle man using origin its unsurprising the PC has a bigger profit yeild.

razgriz_101

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

at the same time Ea did launch bf3 which is probably still selling and it has a primarily PC following, a lot of it could be down to that and the fact they can cut out the middle man using origin its unsurprising the PC has a bigger profit yeild.

blue_hazy_basic

at the same time the PC has diffrent revenue streams such as the F2P model with BF heroes.

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

nothing really big came out on the ps3 so far this year, 2013 I expect those numbers to be very very different witht the Last of Us and beyond souls hitting the stores and God of war.

Chris_Williams

Possibly, though I don't think any of those are EA games.

Admittedly one of the flaws of this comparison is that things don't always nealty line up in a particular publishers products accross various platforms. So one quarter cna be good for the PS3 because EA just released a couple of game son it, and it may suck for the 360, but only because EA products didn't come out that quarter. Next quarter might be different.

I don't know of any huge thigns happening from EA last quarter for the PC though. I think the most popular things happening were Diablo, SKyrim and a few MMO's, free to play experiences (like Blacklight, Tribes, Day Z).

So my main point - that the PC is thriving (EA called it the fastest growing gaming platform), stands. I don't see many consolites making the argument that the PC is dead, but there are a few.

????

No I didn't.

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

Possibly, though I don't think any of those are EA games.

Admittedly one of the flaws of this comparison is that things don't always nealty line up in a particular publishers products accross various platforms. So one quarter cna be good for the PS3 because EA just released a couple of game son it, and it may suck for the 360, but only because EA products didn't come out that quarter. Next quarter might be different.

I don't know of any huge thigns happening from EA last quarter for the PC though. I think the most popular things happening were Diablo, SKyrim and a few MMO's, free to play experiences (like Blacklight, Tribes, Day Z).

So my main point - that the PC is thriving (EA called it the fastest growing gaming platform), stands. I don't see many consolites making the argument that the PC is dead, but there are a few.

Kinthalis

????

No I didn't.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

at the same time Ea did launch bf3 which is probably still selling and it has a primarily PC following, a lot of it could be down to that and the fact they can cut out the middle man using origin its unsurprising the PC has a bigger profit yeild.

razgriz_101

at the same time the PC has diffrent revenue streams such as the F2P model with BF heroes.

Despite what all this factors its great for the pc. Overal the fact that ea almost pushed 900 million dollars in rev in such a dry q1 game wise is a great sign for the compnay

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

nothing really big came out on the ps3 so far this year, 2013 I expect those numbers to be very very different witht the Last of Us and beyond souls hitting the stores and God of war.

Kinthalis

Possibly, though I don't think any of those are EA games.

Admittedly one of the flaws of this comparison is that things don't always nealty line up in a particular publishers products accross various platforms. So one quarter cna be good for the PS3 because EA just released a couple of game son it, and it may suck for the 360, but only because EA products didn't come out that quarter. Next quarter might be different.

I don't know of any huge thigns happening from EA last quarter for the PC though. I think the most popular things happening were Diablo, SKyrim and a few MMO's, free to play experiences (like Blacklight, Tribes, Day Z).

So my main point - that the PC is thriving (EA called it the fastest growing gaming platform), stands. I don't see many consolites making the argument that the PC is dead, but there are a few.

It could be because of Tortanic. It's more important seeing the entire year, when they release their craptastic shooter late this year, the revenues will probably soar higher in the Xbox and PS3 than the PC.

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

nothing really big came out on the ps3 so far this year, 2013 I expect those numbers to be very very different witht the Last of Us and beyond souls hitting the stores and God of war.

tormentos

Possibly, though I don't think any of those are EA games.

Admittedly one of the flaws of this comparison is that things don't always nealty line up in a particular publishers products accross various platforms. So one quarter cna be good for the PS3 because EA just released a couple of game son it, and it may suck for the 360, but only because EA products didn't come out that quarter. Next quarter might be different.

I don't know of any huge thigns happening from EA last quarter for the PC though. I think the most popular things happening were Diablo, SKyrim and a few MMO's, free to play experiences (like Blacklight, Tribes, Day Z).

So my main point - that the PC is thriving (EA called it the fastest growing gaming platform), stands. I don't see many consolites making the argument that the PC is dead, but there are a few.

VGA charts is a joke. Please don't use them. And none of those report are accurate when it comes ot PC sales which are mostly digitla in nature now a days, and they under report the physicla sales there are since they don't do much coverage in territories where physicla PC sales are still king.

It could be because of Tortanic. It's more important seeing the entire year, when they release their craptastic shooter late this year, the revenues will probably soar higher in the Xbox and PS3 than the PC.

Masculus

That could be, but a PC project for them could also bring in a lot of money between now and then.

In other words, this shows PC is a major player for one fo the largest publishers out there - that's the main point.

[QUOTE="Masculus"]

It could be because of Tortanic. It's more important seeing the entire year, when they release their craptastic shooter late this year, the revenues will probably soar higher in the Xbox and PS3 than the PC.

Kinthalis

That could be, but a PC project for them could also bring in a lot of money between now and then.

In other words, this shows PC is a major player for one fo the largest publishers out there - that's the main point.

Aye, the margins are getting way higher in the PC ever since DD. If they can take good care of that part of their business, it can grow a lot (though I doubt they'll take care of it) and so do their profits.

PC ANNIHILATION GENOCIDATION NO CONSOLE SALVATION DOMINATION

PC ANNIHILATION GENOCIDATION NO CONSOLE SALVATION DOMINATION

NoodleFighter

It's funny that trolls like Loosing Ends, FGF, ZombieKiller and a few others will ignore this thread till it drops off the radar. Then start spewing their same crap that PC gaming is dying and doesn't bring nearly as much revenue as consoles. Just proves either how idiotic they are or just how much they really are just trolls.

In short, many say EA is the devil for being a terrible company and yet, they continue to fork money over to EA? Ooookay. :lol:

In short, many say EA is the devil for being a terrible company and yet, they continue to fork money over to EA? Ooookay. :lol:

jun_aka_pekto

its like that MW2 boycott...gamers are whiney but will still cave in.

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

In short, many say EA is the devil for being a terrible company and yet, they continue to fork money over to EA? Ooookay. :lol:

razgriz_101

its like that MW2 boycott...gamers are whiney but will still cave in.

HIPSTERS!!!

profit margins are more or less the same across the 3 platforms, you guys are always making such a huge deal out of small stuff. Always exaggerating.... =/

profit margins are more or less the same across the 3 platforms, you guys are always making such a huge deal out of small stuff. Always exaggerating.... =/

Gue1

Except sales from retail are decreasing while digital distribution is increasing, which is more profitable

[QUOTE="Gue1"]

profit margins are more or less the same across the 3 platforms, you guys are always making such a huge deal out of small stuff. Always exaggerating.... =/

lostrib

Except sales from retail are decreasing while digital distribution is increasing, which is more profitable

profit margins are more or less the same across the 3 platforms, you guys are always making such a huge deal out of small stuff. Always exaggerating.... =/

Gue1

Can you provide evidence of this?

According to EA their digital sales are MORE profitabble than retail. And, also accordign to EA PC is where most of their digitla sales come from. They also call PC the fastest growing segment.

So please, come back with some evidence, I'd love to see it.

Why are you counting marketing spending by MS and Sony against EA's profits? That money has already gone out as royalty expenses, less whatever comes back as co-marketing funds. Also, one quarter isn't a very good representation. How would you respond if Q3 was used (basically, the summer drought plus Madden)? An entire year, or preferably, multiple years to show trends, are really what's needed to draw any conclusions.lowe0

I'm not "counting" Ms and Sony's expenditures in marketing vs EA's earning. Please show me wher eI did that.

What I DID do is point out that consoles require tens of billions of dollars from Sony, MS and nintendo in subsidizing, and marketing their toy boxes.

PC has NONE OF THAT. 0 dollars have been spent in putting out TV ads, internet ads, etc telling people - "HEY! You! Buy a PC for gaming! Do it now! It's soo cool! All your friends are doing it! BUILD IT YOURSELF!".

And yet it represents a 1/3 of overall sales at EA, and a little more than that for Activision/Blizzard.

That was my point. Without that marketing, the consoles would be dead. PC achieves an immense profittability without any of that marketing corporate BS. You have to admit, that's something, right?

[QUOTE="lowe0"]Why are you counting marketing spending by MS and Sony against EA's profits? That money has already gone out as royalty expenses, less whatever comes back as co-marketing funds. Also, one quarter isn't a very good representation. How would you respond if Q3 was used (basically, the summer drought plus Madden)? An entire year, or preferably, multiple years to show trends, are really what's needed to draw any conclusions.Kinthalis

I'm not "counting" Ms and Sony's expenditures in marketing vs EA's earning. Please show me wher eI did that.

What I DID do is point out that consoles require tens of billions of dollars from Sony, MS and nintendo in subsidizing, and marketing their toy boxes.

PC has NONE OF THAT. 0 dollars have been spent in putting out TV ads, internet ads, etc telling people - "HEY! You! Buy a PC for gaming! Do it now! It's soo cool! All your friends are doing it! BUILD IT YOURSELF!".

And yet it represents a 1/3 of overall sales at EA, and a little more than that for Activision/Blizzard.

That was my point. Without that marketing, the consoles would be dead. PC achieves an immense profittability without any of that marketing corporate BS. You have to admit, that's something, right?

I'm going to disagree with that, I've seen plenty of ads for prebuilt gaming PCs on this website and others.

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]Why are you counting marketing spending by MS and Sony against EA's profits? That money has already gone out as royalty expenses, less whatever comes back as co-marketing funds. Also, one quarter isn't a very good representation. How would you respond if Q3 was used (basically, the summer drought plus Madden)? An entire year, or preferably, multiple years to show trends, are really what's needed to draw any conclusions.NoodleFighter

I'm not "counting" Ms and Sony's expenditures in marketing vs EA's earning. Please show me wher eI did that.

What I DID do is point out that consoles require tens of billions of dollars from Sony, MS and nintendo in subsidizing, and marketing their toy boxes.

PC has NONE OF THAT. 0 dollars have been spent in putting out TV ads, internet ads, etc telling people - "HEY! You! Buy a PC for gaming! Do it now! It's soo cool! All your friends are doing it! BUILD IT YOURSELF!".

And yet it represents a 1/3 of overall sales at EA, and a little more than that for Activision/Blizzard.

That was my point. Without that marketing, the consoles would be dead. PC achieves an immense profittability without any of that marketing corporate BS. You have to admit, that's something, right?

I'm going to disagree with that, I've seen plenty of ads for prebuilt gaming PCs on this website and others.

Yes, ok, I do see a few Dell, Ibuy power and HP ads but they are not targetting a large audience. I see them 99% of the time on PC gaming websites. And never on TV. And these are businesses making a profit on each sale.

Compare that to the billions spent on TV and internert advertising by MS who subsidizes it's hardware.

Just ask the guy on the cubicle next to you if he's seen an ad for the xbox, and then ask him if he's seen an add for an ibuy power PC.

You'll probably get these 2 answers:

"Xbox, of course iditiot".

"iBuy what? Is that some Apple knock-off?"

In other word,s one advertising is specifically targeting a wide audience tryign to convince them to buy an xbox becuase it's the best thing evah! and Halo and Gears! Amurica!.

The other is a very targeted, specialized advertising selling a product to what is largely already an audience of PC gamers.

Those ads aren't saying: "Come join Pc gmaing **** Mods and graphics and indie games! Heck yeah!"

Their saying: "We know you are a hermit. Come buy this expensive rig!"

:)

PS3 owners still not buying games.CanYouDiglt

Plenty of movies though, and popcorn. Sales of popcorn are up due to PS3, congrats Sony

But I thought the Cows said that there are more PS3s in the hands of users because every other 360 owner has bought 2 or 3 360s because of RROD? LOL.

That's very interesting, the PS3 is a huge market and for PC to make more money than that means PC gaming is going to continue to grow stronger. Just goes to show that PC gaming is far from dead.

But I don't really care about sales or that stuff.

[QUOTE="lowe0"]Why are you counting marketing spending by MS and Sony against EA's profits? That money has already gone out as royalty expenses, less whatever comes back as co-marketing funds. Also, one quarter isn't a very good representation. How would you respond if Q3 was used (basically, the summer drought plus Madden)? An entire year, or preferably, multiple years to show trends, are really what's needed to draw any conclusions.Kinthalis

I'm not "counting" Ms and Sony's expenditures in marketing vs EA's earning. Please show me wher eI did that.

What I DID do is point out that consoles require tens of billions of dollars from Sony, MS and nintendo in subsidizing, and marketing their toy boxes.

PC has NONE OF THAT. 0 dollars have been spent in putting out TV ads, internet ads, etc telling people - "HEY! You! Buy a PC for gaming! Do it now! It's soo cool! All your friends are doing it! BUILD IT YOURSELF!".

And yet it represents a 1/3 of overall sales at EA, and a little more than that for Activision/Blizzard.

That was my point. Without that marketing, the consoles would be dead. PC achieves an immense profittability without any of that marketing corporate BS. You have to admit, that's something, right?

PS3 is usually always last when it comes to multiplatform games.

JangoWuzHere

Actually no it usually outsells the PC and in many cases the 360. This is total revenue in which they are counting DD. Meaning that even the revenue brought in by there casual titles including the ones creted by pop cap games are included. Thats a whole extra revenue stream that neither hte PS3 or 360 enjoy.

Ofcourse 360 bought more games from EA because the 360 has little to offer, unlike the DominationStation.

Ofcourse 360 bought more games from EA because the 360 has little to offer, unlike the DominationStation.

Davekeeh

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Gue1"]

profit margins are more or less the same across the 3 platforms, you guys are always making such a huge deal out of small stuff. Always exaggerating.... =/

lowe0

Except sales from retail are decreasing while digital distribution is increasing, which is more profitable

What is your point?

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

Except sales from retail are decreasing while digital distribution is increasing, which is more profitable

lostrib

What is your point?

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

PS3 is usually always last when it comes to multiplatform games.

AM-Gamer

Actually no it usually outsells the PC and in many cases the 360. This is total revenue in which they are counting DD. Meaning that even the revenue brought in by there casual titles including the ones creted by pop cap games are included. Thats a whole extra revenue stream that neither hte PS3 or 360 enjoy.

The PS3 almost never outsells the 360 on multiplat games, sorry.

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

PS3 is usually always last when it comes to multiplatform games.

StormyJoe

Actually no it usually outsells the PC and in many cases the 360. This is total revenue in which they are counting DD. Meaning that even the revenue brought in by there casual titles including the ones creted by pop cap games are included. Thats a whole extra revenue stream that neither hte PS3 or 360 enjoy.

The PS3 almost never outsells the 360 on multiplat games, sorry.

sorry you are wrong, It outsold it on Both Batman games, nearly every fighting game this gen , fifa series and I could name some other major ones as well. The only ones that consistenlty sell better on 360 are FPS and WRPG.

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

Actually no it usually outsells the PC and in many cases the 360. This is total revenue in which they are counting DD. Meaning that even the revenue brought in by there casual titles including the ones creted by pop cap games are included. Thats a whole extra revenue stream that neither hte PS3 or 360 enjoy.

AM-Gamer

The PS3 almost never outsells the 360 on multiplat games, sorry.

sorry you are wrong, It outsold it on Both Batman games, nearly every fighting game this gen , fifa series and I could name some other major ones as well. The only ones that consistenlty sell better on 360 are FPS and WRPG.

You'll probably have to post proof of those things.

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

The PS3 almost never outsells the 360 on multiplat games, sorry.

lostrib

sorry you are wrong, It outsold it on Both Batman games, nearly every fighting game this gen , fifa series and I could name some other major ones as well. The only ones that consistenlty sell better on 360 are FPS and WRPG.

You'll probably have to post proof of those things.

The only current proof I could find right off the bat is VG charts which cause most people to go rabbid when you post them. But ive read the reports after the games were released . Lots of diffrent games have sold better on PS3 I can give you examples of ones that have sold better on both.

Xbox 360

1. COD series

2. Battlefield 3

3. Skyrim

PS3

1. Dark souls

2. Super Street Fighter 4

3. Batman Arkham Asylum

The diffrence is the PS3 outsells the 360 worldwide yet the 360 sales better in NA so most games that sell better on the 360 are very popular with NA audiences such as FPS.