EA is selling 1 MB (1000 kB) DLC for $10.

yeah its bad

but EA are still better then activision

alot better

does BC2 PC get the DLC for free?

Why is this thread still going? It should have ended on the first page.

EA are not charging you $10 for something on the disc. Onslaught was installed in a prior update. EA is charging you to"unlock" it.

Fair play.

[QUOTE="ReaperV7"]

:? they included onslaught mode in a patch. You just need the key to unlock it.

spacesheikh

Wow, that DLC is severly jam-packed with a truckload of content! It's mindblowing! One can only imagine how much content lies within such a huge filesize at such a dirt cheap price as well!! One can only imagine how long it will take a person to download such a massive DLC add-on!!

Valiant_Rebel

So by your logic of more space = more content, then all new games have more content than old games, and all ps3 games have more content than anything.

Fact: size of a file is no sign of amount of anything, especially considering something that i can only assume uses assest already in teh game, or did you expect them to write entirely new modesl etc for a piece of DLC?

Really, some of you guys need to get a grip on reality here.

If only we could convince every console gamer on Gamespot to not buy DLC. It would probably still sell by the boatload :cry:General_X

http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/offers/0ccf0011-0000-4000-8000-0000454108a8?cid=SLink

Bad Company 2 Onslaught mode is one megabyte in size. Basically you're paying to unlock a feature already on the disc.

Not only that, but EA is trying to kill used game sales with day 1 DLC. EA is just as bad as Activision.

spacesheikh

[QUOTE="spacesheikh"][QUOTE="ReaperV7"]

:? they included onslaught mode in a patch. You just need the key to unlock it.

mgs_freak91

Hes bullying him becouse he does not know how things work. A dif example to the onslough mode unlock: Recently I bought a box copy of Dawn of War 2 Chaos Rising and you know what? it was just an unlock code becouse the whole content of the expansion was included in a patch and you only need the cd key to unlock it.

[QUOTE="morrowindnic"]

[QUOTE="spacesheikh"]

http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/offers/0ccf0011-0000-4000-8000-0000454108a8?cid=SLink

Bad Company 2 Onslaught mode is one megabyte in size. Basically you're paying to unlock a feature already on the disc.

Not only that, but EA is trying to kill used game sales with day 1 DLC. EA is just as bad as Activision.

Fightingfan

You are joking right?

Activision is charging $15 for map packs of OLD and new maps. Dice map packs are FREE. It's an optional DLC you don't have to buy it. Get over yourself.

And for all I care the used game market can go to hell. Gamestop sucks.

Dice Maps are free because there not even "map packs" its revamping of existing maps with Artillery zones.

The first two VIP updates actually had a couple of new areas, and was not just enitlrely revamping maps between modes. Even the ones that are "revamped", they become quite fun when they go from a conquest map to a Rush map. Map pack 3 and 4 unfortunately have included ZERO new areas, which does kind of suck. Update 3 was particularly bad because it was an update only for the small gamemodes (squad rush and squad deathmatch). So all update 3 was a shrunken section of existing maps for the smaller squad based modes. But I actually really like the "new maps" in update 4. Sure they are just revamped off of existing, but at least it is sharing the maps between the two biggest and best modes (Rush and Conquest).

Atacama Desert on Rush mode is a really fun map IMO.

I would go as far as to say Atacama Desert and Laguna might be the two best maps on Rush mode, and they both started out as Conquest maps.

[QUOTE="spacesheikh"][QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

That's what the patch did. It included assets for Onslaught, which are unlocked with the downloaded key.

Also, they have the right to try and kill used sales. They should be paid for every copy of the game sold, and if that means adding in incentives for people that buy new copies, whether that be a weapon pack, online play, or special access, they have the right to do that. That's something that they should've implemented years ago.

savagetwinkie

It does not matter if there is wear and tear on a game or not. It is the right of the consumer to sell forward anything they purchase. So a car is a perfect comparison, each used car sale could have been a new car sale right?? Most used games have either scratches on the disk or missing boxes and manuals any way. Does not matter if you agree with it or not used game sales are legal AND Moral. No one has the right to take anything away from you once you purchase it and charging you to unlock something that is already on your disk is equal to stealing. Sorry, devs deserve zero money from the sale of used games because it was not their copy to begin with they already got paid for that copy when they sold it to retail. If you are going to stop the sale of used games then you have to stop the sale of ALL used items because they have the same effect on the original manufacturer.

[QUOTE="spacesheikh"]

http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/offers/0ccf0011-0000-4000-8000-0000454108a8?cid=SLink

Bad Company 2 Onslaught mode is one megabyte in size. Basically you're paying to unlock a feature already on the disc.

Not only that, but EA is trying to kill used game sales with day 1 DLC. EA is just as bad as Activision.

tommyas

I'll tell you whats wrong with that. The fact they are using your harddrive space with out your permission. If I don't want to pay for this content it should not be on my console using up harddrive space.

Reminds me of what they pulled with the Burnout Paradise DLC. All of it, including the numerous car packs and Big Surf Island, was installed on an update and hogged my HDD space and wasn't playable unless you bought it from the Marketplace. Granted, I actually ended up buying the DLC anyway, but I'm not a fan of this method at all.

Blame gamers who buy this stuff and who bought teh COD map packs for 15 bucks a piece.

XboximusPrime

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="spacesheikh"] Why should they be paid for used sales? If they can't release a product with replay value then they don't deserve those sales.EG101

It does not matter if there is wear and tear on a game or not. It is the right of the consumer to sell forward anything they purchase. So a car is a perfect comparison, each used car sale could have been a new car sale right?? Most used games have either scratches on the disk or missing boxes and manuals any way. Does not matter if you agree with it or not used game sales are legal AND Moral. No one has the right to take anything away from you once you purchase it and charging you to unlock something that is already on your disk is equal to stealing. Sorry, devs deserve zero money from the sale of used games because it was not their copy to begin with they already got paid for that copy when they sold it to retail. If you are going to stop the sale of used games then you have to stop the sale of ALL used items because they have the same effect on the original manufacturer.

amen brutha.. if we pruchase something we should have the right to resell it. And if its a matter of wear and tear, then i guess we shouldnt be allowed to sell used houses... because houses last longer than video games! How dare someone walk in 50 years later and enjoy the same exact house the original owner had to buy new! They are cheating home development companies out of their much deserved cash!

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

Blame gamers who buy this stuff and who bought teh COD map packs for 15 bucks a piece.

xbox360isgr8t

agreed... i never buy DLC unless its really cheap. Even if i really the like the game.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="spacesheikh"]

What about books? The information contained in books doesn't have "wear and tear". Do you think authors should be paid for used book sales? Do you buy any used books yourself?

spacesheikh

Did you go to college? Textbooks are a lot more expensive than video games. And games can get scratched over time. Writer's don't spend as much money writing a book but they definitely spend more time.

EA is also charging "Online Pass" for 10 bucks, me and two other brothers share my PS3 and like to game on our own accounts. This essentially forces us to either fork over 20 bucks so we all can game on our own account online OR share one account for Madden 11 this year ...

The must utter lame, piece of **** I've experienced this gen.

W1NGMAN-

[QUOTE="spacesheikh"]

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] buying books is alot cheaper, and they don't exactly circulate as fast, and the pages can get messier faster. But writers don't spend millions writing a book so I really don't care tbh.savagetwinkie

Did you go to college? Textbooks are a lot more expensive than video games. And games can get scratched over time. Writer's don't spend as much money writing a book but they definitely spend more time.

What about books? The information contained in books doesn't have "wear and tear". Do you think authors should be paid for used book sales? Do you buy any used books yourself?

spacesheikh

EA is also charging "Online Pass" for 10 bucks, me and two other brothers share my PS3 and like to game on our own accounts. This essentially forces us to either fork over 20 bucks so we all can game on our own account online OR share one account for Madden 11 this year ...

The must utter lame, piece of **** I've experienced this gen.

W1NGMAN-

Used game sales man! It does suck though.

[QUOTE="Valiant_Rebel"]

Wow, that DLC is severly jam-packed with a truckload of content! It's mindblowing! One can only imagine how much content lies within such a huge filesize at such a dirt cheap price as well!! One can only imagine how long it will take a person to download such a massive DLC add-on!!

warmaster670

So by your logic of more space = more content, then all new games have more content than old games, and all ps3 games have more content than anything.

Fact: size of a file is no sign of amount of anything, especially considering something that i can only assume uses assest already in teh game, or did you expect them to write entirely new modesl etc for a piece of DLC?

Really, some of you guys need to get a grip on reality here.

What I posted in my last post is called sarcasm. I did not think I had to use the [:roll:] emoticon because I thought it was obvious I was being sarcastic, but I am telling you in case you did not realize that. I already know more space does not equal more content and I have a better grip on reality than a lot of users here. Please do not assume I am ignorant of facts and reality.

[QUOTE="spacesheikh"]

What about books? The information contained in books doesn't have "wear and tear". Do you think authors should be paid for used book sales? Do you buy any used books yourself?

markop2003

so you should only be able to sell something that is prone to wear and tear? this is the dumbest thing ive ever heard.

what about things like diamonds? diamonds dont have wear and tear, should we be able to resell those? all those used diamond sales hurt diamond cutters...

This is another reason why not to buy day 1. Just wait for price drop then buy game and get dlc

Yea well just blame yourselves for that.

Espada12

[QUOTE="mgs_freak91"][QUOTE="spacesheikh"] Nice try EA public relations.rzepak

Hes bullying him becouse he does not know how things work. A dif example to the onslough mode unlock: Recently I bought a box copy of Dawn of War 2 Chaos Rising and you know what? it was just an unlock code becouse the whole content of the expansion was included in a patch and you only need the cd key to unlock it.

[QUOTE="General_X"]If only we could convince every console gamer on Gamespot to not buy DLC. It would probably still sell by the boatload :cry:blue_hazy_basic

Remember that patch a little while back before Onslaught's release that was over 200MB? You don't think that was all for uber-high res images of the soldiers that you see during loadout, did you?

Sigh, people depress me. :?

Ryan_Som

Thank you for pointing this out. It was in the update and the dlc was to unlock the content in the update. I don't agree with that exactly but it wasn't content already on the disc.

EA is just as bad as Activision.

spacesheikh

I think this should be locked really, as it's completely untrue. Onslaught mode isn't on the disc at all; it was added via a pretty heft patch (around 400MB). All this 1MB DLC does is unlock it.Ninja-Hippo

Blame gamers who buy this stuff and who bought teh COD map packs for 15 bucks a piece.

XboximusPrime

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]I think this should be locked really, as it's completely untrue. Onslaught mode isn't on the disc at all; it was added via a pretty heft patch (around 400MB). All this 1MB DLC does is unlock it.Ravensmash

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]I think this should be locked really, as it's completely untrue. Onslaught mode isn't on the disc at all; it was added via a pretty heft patch (around 400MB). All this 1MB DLC does is unlock it.W1NGMAN-

hey you know what blame microsoft xbox 360 for that , ,

cause you know as well as i do all those dlc we pay for , , is stuff already in the games code. . for example perfectdark even i know complex and temple were in there before they became dlc you want to know why, ,

because it was on the n64 game,

AND before rare was bought by microsoft there was several confirmations pd0 would have classic maps from pd , and guns to , and guess what , it did , , the same 2 that were in goldeneye ,as well , and the guns are laptop megsec 4 falcon2 superdragon ,basicaly over half the games guns are i n pd ,, sad isnt it

then you got quantum ofsolace camille map pack -those 4 maps were taken from missions that are infact inside the game code already

theres nothing new there

wwe had a few superstars , and you know what, , , those were in earlier wrestlin games so there was no doubt theyd be dlc instead of unlockables like in ps2 smackdown games

so ya you can blame all the rabid xbox fans that praised dlc day in day out look at rockbad and gh how they milk us for money when we should be able to play music off our hard drives instead they make us pay for new music even though we paid for our music cds

lol

so ya all that stuff is taking hard drive space as well as taking real cash to unlock

and i hate microsofts drm measures because what if i use all my 250 gigs and microsoft doesnt release a bigger size hdd for fat xboxs

im stuck using 2 hard drives, but one little catch you cant have one name on two hard drives

what this means is id be stuck pAYING 100 FOR XBOX LIVE , OR MORE!

1MB is 1024 kB. just sayin'

I agree that they are just as bad as Activision. I also truly dislike the lack of any map packs for that VIP code BS. unlocked game modes on maps that are already there? Please.

They have no shame :(.Salt_The_Fries

[QUOTE="spacesheikh"]EA is just as bad as Activision.

foxhound_fox

I agree, EA do still publish some of the best games.

On Topic:I'm growing tired of these topics complaining about DLC prices.

They will set a price to maximise profit and sales. Not too high so as to turn people off, but high enough to make a good sale on each download.

If you don't want to pay for it, don't buy it. Problem solved. Moaning about it or calling for a pathetically small boycott won't change a thing.

God. I just love how everyone just jumped on this game bashing it to no end, but they really had no idea what they were talking about:roll:

[QUOTE="tommyas"][QUOTE="spacesheikh"]

http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/offers/0ccf0011-0000-4000-8000-0000454108a8?cid=SLink

Bad Company 2 Onslaught mode is one megabyte in size. Basically you're paying to unlock a feature already on the disc.

Not only that, but EA is trying to kill used game sales with day 1 DLC. EA is just as bad as Activision.

I'll tell you whats wrong with that. The fact they are using your harddrive space with out your permission. If I don't want to pay for this content it should not be on my console using up harddrive space.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="spacesheikh"] Why should they be paid for used sales? If they can't release a product with replay value then they don't deserve those sales.EG101

It does not matter if there is wear and tear on a game or not. It is the right of the consumer to sell forward anything they purchase. So a car is a perfect comparison, each used car sale could have been a new car sale right?? Most used games have either scratches on the disk or missing boxes and manuals any way. Does not matter if you agree with it or not used game sales are legal AND Moral. No one has the right to take anything away from you once you purchase it and charging you to unlock something that is already on your disk is equal to stealing. Sorry, devs deserve zero money from the sale of used games because it was not their copy to begin with they already got paid for that copy when they sold it to retail. If you are going to stop the sale of used games then you have to stop the sale of ALL used items because they have the same effect on the original manufacturer.

No one is taking anything away either, they are just giving you perks for buying new instead of used which I completely agree with. Its not stealing if they have content on the disc thats unlockable and it makes it convenient for people that bought new and may not be connected to the internet.

look at rockbad and gh how they milk us for money when we should be able to play music off our hard drives instead they make us pay for new music even though we paid for our music cds

mariokart64fan

To Savage Twinkie

It is stealing when content is on the disk already because when you purchase a game you are buying a copy of the content on the disk or technically a license to ALL the content on the disk. No where do you sign a limitation to the content and no where on the box does it state that part of the content on the disk is off limits. How would you like to buy a BMW for $50,000 with a 6 speed transmission only to find out after you ALREADY made the irreversible purchase that gears 4, 5, and 6 are locked out unless you pay another $15,000 to unlock it???