EA likes kicking wii owners i n the nuts.

its bad enough that all 3rd parties keep bringing ports of HD ganes to the wii that has no buisness being there (call of duty, dead rising), or they get there B teams to make a game in 6 months like the terrible need for speed. aside from a very few good games like maramusa and madworld, there is no reason to get anything on the wii not made by nintendo. and now there is less reason.........

obviously if a game is gonna be on all the systems the wii would be the last system you buy it on. but now some of the wii's best 3rd party exclusives have jumped ship for less then half the price or even free.

dead space extraction is being bundled with dead space 2 for an extra $10. it will also be a DL on PSN for $15. wii owners get an inferior version for $50.

NBA JAM- free on HD consoles with a few game modes missing but added online. wii version probably will have no online and cost $50.

on capcom's website it ask fans how they want tatsunoko vs capcom on HD console's?

and now all of those wii exclusives that were coming (and some of the older ones) will also be avaliable for move and kinect.

what has happened is my wii has become a nintendo published game machine. and thats fine with me. other then tatsunoko and trauma team i had no other 3rd party games. but with these announcements, the wii will probably fade away much quicker. and just like the gamecube and N64, these recent moves by 3rd parties shows that they still consider nintendo's machines as "that other device". the one that they put something on it just to do it. no matter the quality. and also shows that they consider nintendo fans as the least important.

Yes, as do the rest of us.
:P

I'll just say that your topic title made me :lol: and it sounds like a awesome new game for the HD twins. :P

Look harder then!!! 3rd party developers support the Wii and i own more 3rd party games than 1st party (MP Trilogy is it) and EA arent that great of a developer anyways.

Well I've always looked at the Wii as a console you buy for maybe 3-5 very good specific games and because you love Nintendo. Not because you think the overall library is amazing and there are going to be 20 and 30 games a year that you are interested in playing on the Wii.

Look harder then!!! 3rd party developers support the Wii and i own more 3rd party games than 1st party (MP Trilogy is it) and EA arent that great of a developer anyways.

Dibdibdobdobo

When games are released years later they are usually cheaper.

Its also pointing out Wii has a very niche maybe far eastern taste. The irony is that the Wii is the most casualized console of them all, but if you want to find actually good games besides SMG, Zelda, and Metroid, you have to look very hard and what you find isn't for everyone it seems to me alot of anime and manga fans are interested in some of the niche Wii games, Idk, honestly you my two cents.

Look harder then!!! 3rd party developers support the Wii and i own more 3rd party games than 1st party (MP Trilogy is it) and EA arent that great of a developer anyways.

Yeah well, it's the Wii... Devs don't like it...locopatho

loco is right man and i doubt the TvsC is going to past when the hd consoles get MVsC3 and the likes.

All TvsC will do is show where MvsC3 is getting it basis from with a combination of SSF4 because thats all MvsC3 is honestly

Look harder then!!! 3rd party developers support the Wii and i own more 3rd party games than 1st party (MP Trilogy is it) and EA arent that great of a developer anyways.

Being a wii owner I'm perfectly fine with being kicked in the nuts, because I have a solid Iron cup I call "Nintendo Exclusives".

Yeah well, it's the Wii... Devs don't like it...locopatho

[QUOTE="locopatho"]Yeah well, it's the Wii... Devs don't like it...tomarlyn

[QUOTE="locopatho"]Yeah well, it's the Wii... Devs don't like it...tomarlyn

na nintendo gave devs open arms this gen devs are just lazy and want everything their way. If your going to compete and want to make money work your ass off for it thats how i see it

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="locopatho"]Yeah well, it's the Wii... Devs don't like it...KungfuKitten

eventually devs are going to give into their pride and make games for the wii2 which will be hd and the likes. thats three systems to get money from. they would be stupid to turn that opportunity down.

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="locopatho"]Yeah well, it's the Wii... Devs don't like it...Mario1331

na nintendo gave devs open arms this gen devs are just lazy and want everything their way. If your going to compete and want to make money work your ass off for it thats how i see it

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"] Its ironic considering its the easiest hardware to develop for and has the largest user base. Hopefully it teaches Nintendo a lesson, as long as they care enough about developer respect to stop counting money. Would an artist prefer to create a masterpiece with the finest paint and brushes available, or use crayons?locopatho

na nintendo gave devs open arms this gen devs are just lazy and want everything their way. If your going to compete and want to make money work your ass off for it thats how i see it

which is true but theirs many people in those damn companies one got to have a unique idea for the wii that they could push full force i dont want to hear the only way to push gaming forward is technically thats complete BS

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"] Its ironic considering its the easiest hardware to develop for and has the largest user base. Hopefully it teaches Nintendo a lesson, as long as they care enough about developer respect to stop counting money. Would an artist prefer to create a masterpiece with the finest paint and brushes available, or use crayons?locopatho

na nintendo gave devs open arms this gen devs are just lazy and want everything their way. If your going to compete and want to make money work your ass off for it thats how i see it

which is true but theirs many people in those damn companies one got to have a unique idea for the wii that they could push full force.

i dont want to hear the only way to push gaming forward is technically thats complete BS

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="locopatho"]Yeah well, it's the Wii... Devs don't like it...KungfuKitten

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"] Its ironic considering its the easiest hardware to develop for and has the largest user base. Hopefully it teaches Nintendo a lesson, as long as they care enough about developer respect to stop counting money. Would an artist prefer to create a masterpiece with the finest paint and brushes available, or use crayons?Mario1331

eventually devs are going to give into their pride and make games for the wii2 which will be hd and the likes. thats three systems to get money from. they would be stupid to turn that opportunity down.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

na nintendo gave devs open arms this gen devs are just lazy and want everything their way. If your going to compete and want to make money work your ass off for it thats how i see it

Mario1331

which is true but theirs many people in those damn companies one got to have a unique idea for the wii that they could push full force.

i dont want to hear the only way to push gaming forward is technically thats complete BS

I'll Rochambeau you for it

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"] Its ironic considering its the easiest hardware to develop for and has the largest user base. Hopefully it teaches Nintendo a lesson, as long as they care enough about developer respect to stop counting money. Would an artist prefer to create a masterpiece with the finest paint and brushes available, or use crayons?Mario1331

eventually devs are going to give into their pride and make games for the wii2 which will be hd and the likes. thats three systems to get money from. they would be stupid to turn that opportunity down.

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"] Its ironic considering its the easiest hardware to develop for and has the largest user base. Hopefully it teaches Nintendo a lesson, as long as they care enough about developer respect to stop counting money. Would an artist prefer to create a masterpiece with the finest paint and brushes available, or use crayons?tomarlyn

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"] There was more to it than that tomarlyn :P and You know it. Costs, diversity, stuff. But You are right in a twisted mean way. Devs do prefer developing 360/ps3/pc games. I hope nintendo doesn't give in, but gives up on those 3rd party console devs. I think if the wii was as powerful, it would still get underhanded ports. They should step away from 3rd party on console, and find another way to be successful.KungfuKitten

eventually devs are going to give into their pride and make games for the wii2 which will be hd and the likes. thats three systems to get money from. they would be stupid to turn that opportunity down.

which is true and buy out more studios, but third party devs want money too or they wont survive they practically take a loss every game they make multiplat because a million sellers dont cut it no more they are going to do what they have to do to survive which is suck it up and develop quality hd ports for the wii successor its just smart business.

Most wii games would be sold on xbla/psn so what's the problem?MFDOOM1983

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"] There was more to it than that tomarlyn :P and You know it. Costs, diversity, stuff. But You are right in a twisted mean way. Devs do prefer developing 360/ps3/pc games. I hope nintendo doesn't give in, but gives up on those 3rd party console devs. I think if the wii was as powerful, it would still get underhanded ports. They should step away from 3rd party on console, and find another way to be successful.tomarlyn

eventually devs are going to give into their pride and make games for the wii2 which will be hd and the likes. thats three systems to get money from. they would be stupid to turn that opportunity down.

this is true ninty is going to build some relationships too they old fashion but they need to get with the times already

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] They do work their asses off, it's just if you are Epic Games or Bethesda or Capcom or whoever and want to make a massive game like Oblivion or a gorgeous game like Gears or a game with 100s of enemies on screen like Dead Rising, the Wii isn't really the place to do that kinda thing.locopatho

which is true but theirs many people in those damn companies one got to have a unique idea for the wii that they could push full force.

i dont want to hear the only way to push gaming forward is technically thats complete BS

i still think that the gameplay of last gen has not been replecated by this gens games

GTASA is a lot better then GTA IV

PoP 1 is better then PoP 2008 or AssassinsCreed 1 and 2

Splinter Cell 1, 2, 3 is a LOT better then any Splinter Cell game this gen

Halo 1 is a LOT better then Halo 3

Graphically they are better but they either offer the same experience but in a more limited fashion or they are just broken in comparison to the polish that last gens games got

and then there are the smaller games that just dont get released any more (Metal Arms, whiplash, Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy, Beyond Good and Evil for example)

HD killed a lot of gameplay for me to be honest due to its higher production value the games are not as diverse anymore

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] They do work their asses off, it's just if you are Epic Games or Bethesda or Capcom or whoever and want to make a massive game like Oblivion or a gorgeous game like Gears or a game with 100s of enemies on screen like Dead Rising, the Wii isn't really the place to do that kinda thing.locopatho

which is true but theirs many people in those damn companies one got to have a unique idea for the wii that they could push full force.

i dont want to hear the only way to push gaming forward is technically thats complete BS

yea ninty going to have too beef it up next gen or they just wont be able to compete but miyamoto and the other PR's are already interested in 3D and HD so its basically a given thats where their heading. But we all know its not going to be as strong as Sony's and Micro's successors

Its ironic considering its the easiest hardware to develop for and has the largest user base. Hopefully it teaches Nintendo a lesson, as long as they care enough about developer respect to stop counting money. Would an artist prefer to create a masterpiece with the finest paint and brushes available, or use crayons?tomarlyn

na nintendo gave devs open arms this gen devs are just lazy and want everything their way. If your going to compete and want to make money work your ass off for it thats how i see it

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

na nintendo gave devs open arms this gen devs are just lazy and want everything their way. If your going to compete and want to make money work your ass off for it thats how i see it

tomarlyn

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

which is true but theirs many people in those damn companies one got to have a unique idea for the wii that they could push full force.

i dont want to hear the only way to push gaming forward is technically thats complete BS

farnham

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

eventually devs are going to give into their pride and make games for the wii2 which will be hd and the likes. thats three systems to get money from. they would be stupid to turn that opportunity down.

Mario1331

which is true and buy out more studios, but third party devs want money too or they wont survive they practically take a loss every game they make multiplat because a million sellers dont cut it no more they are going to do what they have to do to survive which is suck it up and develop quality hd ports for the wii successor its just smart business.

Yes, as do the rest of us.
:P

Doom_HellKnight

/thread :lol:

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

which is true but theirs many people in those damn companies one got to have a unique idea for the wii that they could push full force.

i dont want to hear the only way to push gaming forward is technically thats complete BS

farnham

i still think that the gameplay of last gen has not been replecated by this gens games

GTASA is a lot better then GTA IV

PoP 1 is better then PoP 2008 or AssassinsCreed 1 and 2

Splinter Cell 1, 2, 3 is a LOT better then any Splinter Cell game this gen

Halo 1 is a LOT better then Halo 3

Graphically they are better but they either offer the same experience but in a more limited fashion or they are just broken in comparison to the polish that last gens games got

and then there are the smaller games that just dont get released any more (Metal Arms, whiplash, Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy, Beyond Good and Evil for example)

HD killed a lot of gameplay for me to be honest due to its higher production value the games are not as diverse anymore

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"] Maybe but ninty shouldn't place themselves in a position that they care about that. They could just as well all walk away. i don't think it's smart to play the game that ms and sony are playing. They shouldn't build a powerhouse. They could make wii2 fall a little less behind the successors of ps3/360, to reel in third party ports. I don't think that's going to do much either. The only real successful path that i see is if they give up on 3rd party, and make all games 1st party, and create hardware specifically for the ideas their studio's have.KungfuKitten

which is true and buy out more studios, but third party devs want money too or they wont survive they practically take a loss every game they make multiplat because a million sellers dont cut it no more they are going to do what they have to do to survive which is suck it up and develop quality hd ports for the wii successor its just smart business.

yea nintendo got alot of talent they really dont need that much 3rd party support because as you see they are killing the competition but im pretty sure ninty has a plan on what they are going to do with their next console. people buy w.e they spit out anyway so they ina good position

When I purchased a Wii (at launch) I handed over my money fully aware of the fact I was buying a console purely for the first party content, my nuts remain unkicked 8).

Side note: does this mean for HD console owners EA are massaging our... no nevermind :oops:.

[QUOTE="farnham"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] Not the only way, but technical power is indeed a limiting factor on people's creativity. Of course, the limits and how devs get around them can be really cool too, Silent Hill's fog for example :Dlocopatho

i still think that the gameplay of last gen has not been replecated by this gens games

GTASA is a lot better then GTA IV

PoP 1 is better then PoP 2008 or AssassinsCreed 1 and 2

Splinter Cell 1, 2, 3 is a LOT better then any Splinter Cell game this gen

Halo 1 is a LOT better then Halo 3

Graphically they are better but they either offer the same experience but in a more limited fashion or they are just broken in comparison to the polish that last gens games got

and then there are the smaller games that just dont get released any more (Metal Arms, whiplash, Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy, Beyond Good and Evil for example)

HD killed a lot of gameplay for me to be honest due to its higher production value the games are not as diverse anymore

When I purchased a Wii (at launch) I handed over my money fully aware of the fact I was buying a console purely for the first party content, my nuts remain unkicked 8).

Side note: does this mean for HD console owners EA are massaging our... no nevermind :oops:.

Aside from the NES, SNES and DS, Nintendo has never been good at keeping third-party developers interested in making games on their platforms.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="farnham"] i dont know silent hills best (2 and 3..) was on ps2 those games look and play better then the HD homecomming

i still think that the gameplay of last gen has not been replecated by this gens games

GTASA is a lot better then GTA IV

PoP 1 is better then PoP 2008 or AssassinsCreed 1 and 2

Splinter Cell 1, 2, 3 is a LOT better then any Splinter Cell game this gen

Halo 1 is a LOT better then Halo 3

Graphically they are better but they either offer the same experience but in a more limited fashion or they are just broken in comparison to the polish that last gens games got

and then there are the smaller games that just dont get released any more (Metal Arms, whiplash, Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy, Beyond Good and Evil for example)

HD killed a lot of gameplay for me to be honest due to its higher production value the games are not as diverse anymore

farnham

thats what im saying this gen the amount of really awesome game has dropped rapidlyfarnham

[QUOTE="farnham"][QUOTE="locopatho"] Nonsense, this gen has seen some of the best games and highest standards ever.

tomarlyn

[QUOTE="farnham"] thats what im saying this gen the amount of really awesome game has dropped rapidlylocopatho

its good to see someone fightig back against nintendo. by going sideways and making a system with alot less power then the other 2 consoles, which is a first i think...nintendo forced devs to make games just for them. even the sports games devs have to make 2 wholegames. like Madden NFL 09 All-Play

you can blame 3rd party devs. but its really nintendos fault. they been shuning devs for years now scared to death a 3rd party game is gonna over shawdow their first party games on their systems. the wii was a perfect idea for them... they got their way and still kicked everyones ass in sales

i dont see any games to be honest

maybe bioshock but thats about it

farnham

Really? Sucks to be you, I'm loving this gen to bits. I won't bore you with pointless lists but I could name at least 25 or so cIassic games from this gen, in fact probably double that.