EA: Nintendo is the leader, they are getting HALF of our emphasis from now on

BIGGEST Publisher to shift half its focus to Wii

Gaming RIP

According to IGN.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/950/950903p1.html

UK, February 4, 2009 - EA's John Riccitiello has spoken of how the publisher is to place half of its emphasis on the Wii, as it looks to 'rival Nintendo on their own platform'.

"Nintendo is the leader; they're getting half our emphasis in terms of title counts," said Riccitiello in the company's Q3 earning call, picked up by videogaming24/7, confirming that the hugely successful console will be a key platform for EA.

A Wii version of the space-bound survival horror Dead Space, announced in the same call, appears to be one of the first signs of this new focus.

HOPEFULLY ALL THE OTHER PUBLISHERS DONT PLAY FOLLOW THE LEADER, OR IM QUITTING GAMING!!!

They lost 600 million...what do you think they are going to do? Keep losing money?Kahuna_1

[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]They lost 600 million...what do you think they are going to do? Keep losing money?JangoWuzHere

Or EA needs to drop its weakest studios, and maybe reconsider how many next gen games to make. They had Left 4 Dead, Mirror's Edge, and Dead Space...those are 3 good games that should have helped soldify the quarter...not to mention Rock Band 2. That was the mistake they made. They made it timed exclusive to the 360 and they got screwed like I knew they would. Guitar Hero picked up sales while RB2 wasnt out and they lost out big time by not being on the Wii.

They need to use the Wii now to get back on track, then once things settle they can go back to full time on the PS3 and 360.

EA only cares about money so this was expected.JangoWuzHere

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]They lost 600 million...what do you think they are going to do? Keep losing money?Kahuna_1

Or EA needs to drop its weakest studios, and maybe reconsider how many next gen games to make. They had Left 4 Dead, Mirror's Edge, and Dead Space...those are 3 good games that should have helped soldify the quarter...not to mention Rock Band 2. That was the mistake they made. They made it timed exclusive to the 360 and they got screwed like I knew they would. Guitar Hero picked up sales while RB2 wasnt out and they lost out big time by not being on the Wii.

They need to use the Wii now to get back on track, then once things settle they can go back to full time on the PS3 and 360.

EA only cares about money so this was expected.JangoWuzHere

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]EA only cares about money so this was expected.channtheman1

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]They lost 600 million...what do you think they are going to do? Keep losing money?Kahuna_1

Or EA needs to drop its weakest studios, and maybe reconsider how many next gen games to make. They had Left 4 Dead, Mirror's Edge, and Dead Space...those are 3 good games that should have helped soldify the quarter...not to mention Rock Band 2. That was the mistake they made. They made it timed exclusive to the 360 and they got screwed like I knew they would. Guitar Hero picked up sales while RB2 wasnt out and they lost out big time by not being on the Wii.

They need to use the Wii now to get back on track, then once things settle they can go back to full time on the PS3 and 360.

[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"] If they lost 600 million then they need to manage their company better and advertize their games better.JangoWuzHere

Or EA needs to drop its weakest studios, and maybe reconsider how many next gen games to make. They had Left 4 Dead, Mirror's Edge, and Dead Space...those are 3 good games that should have helped soldify the quarter...not to mention Rock Band 2. That was the mistake they made. They made it timed exclusive to the 360 and they got screwed like I knew they would. Guitar Hero picked up sales while RB2 wasnt out and they lost out big time by not being on the Wii.

They need to use the Wii now to get back on track, then once things settle they can go back to full time on the PS3 and 360.

Publisher. They bought out Pandemic and Bioware and those 2 have done nothing productive for them yet.

They lost 600 million...what do you think they are going to do? Keep losing money?Kahuna_1

[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]They lost 600 million...what do you think they are going to do? Keep losing money?TheNextOrder

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

Or EA needs to drop its weakest studios, and maybe reconsider how many next gen games to make. They had Left 4 Dead, Mirror's Edge, and Dead Space...those are 3 good games that should have helped soldify the quarter...not to mention Rock Band 2. That was the mistake they made. They made it timed exclusive to the 360 and they got screwed like I knew they would. Guitar Hero picked up sales while RB2 wasnt out and they lost out big time by not being on the Wii.

They need to use the Wii now to get back on track, then once things settle they can go back to full time on the PS3 and 360.

Kahuna_1

Publisher. They bought out Pandemic and Bioware and those 2 have done nothing productive for them yet.

Steam the only way to buy left 4 dead. What's a publisher.

Oh publisher right primarily for those who bought the "Certain Affinity" port.

[QUOTE="TheNextOrder"][QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]They lost 600 million...what do you think they are going to do? Keep losing money?KungfuKitten

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="TheNextOrder"]Better than killing gamingTheNextOrder

BIGGEST Publisher to shift half its focus to Wii

Gaming RIP

According to IGN.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/950/950903p1.html

UK, February 4, 2009 - EA's John Riccitiello has spoken of how the publisher is to place half of its emphasis on the Wii, as it looks to 'rival Nintendo on their own platform'.

"Nintendo is the leader; they're getting half our emphasis in terms of title counts," said Riccitiello in the company's Q3 earning call, picked up by videogaming24/7, confirming that the hugely successful console will be a key platform for EA.

A Wii version of the space-bound survival horror Dead Space, announced in the same call, appears to be one of the first signs of this new focus.

HOPEFULLY ALL THE OTHER PUBLISHERS DONT PLAY FOLLOW THE LEADER, OR IM QUITTING GAMING!!!

TheNextOrder

Your title is very misleading. EA said that Wii software made up half of their titles, which INCLUDES SHOVELWARE. They did not say "from now on, we are devoting half of our resources towards Wii," but that is exactly what you said in your topic title. Also, you are a level 1 w/ 7 posts.

Dont they already get half of their support in shovle ware?htekemerald

It doesn't really matter either way.

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="TheNextOrder"]Better than killing gamingTheNextOrder

[QUOTE="TheNextOrder"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"] Wii + support = 2012. Why? Because You don't have a wii?dotWithShoes

Games aren't designed solely around rumble. If they were, they'd be terrible. It's a minor addition, just like waggle.

The wii isn't taking away games.

[QUOTE="TheNextOrder"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"] Wii + support = 2012. Why? Because You don't have a wii?dotWithShoes

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="TheNextOrder"]Because I like graphics, online, AI, physics, without gimmicky controllers?hakanakumono

Games aren't designed solely around rumble. If they were, they'd be terrible. It's a minor addition, just like waggle.

The wii isn't taking away games.

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="TheNextOrder"]Because I like graphics, online, AI, physics, without gimmicky controllers?Timstuff

[QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="dotWithShoes"] rumble is a gimmick.. or was.. bet you like your rumble now? analog stick are a gimmick.. bet you like it now? yeah, keep being sad that little white box with its gimmicky controller is wiping the floor with your console of choice and taking away your games.dotWithShoes

Which begs the question: why make a game for such a crappy piece of hardware when you're not even going to use it's only asset (aside from large userbase, who doesn't even buy that much software per capita anyway)? :|

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="Timstuff"] Analog is not a gimmick. Games have been using it since the 1980's, because they offer precise 360 degree movement that a D-pad or 8-way joystick can never hope to replicate. If you're going to argue in favor of waggle because other things are gimmicks, then you may as well argue that the entire industry is a gimmick. In terms of gaming, Wii's controls have not made games as a whole better. They are different, but that does not mean they are better. Motion controls are a new option that some games may benefit from, but just like any type of control, there are plenty of games that don't need it and are in fact better without it. I love my Thrustmaster flight stick, but I wouldn't dream of playing Street Fighter with it.Timstuff

Which begs the question: why make a game for such a crappy piece of hardware when you're not even going to use it's only asset (aside from large userbase, who doesn't even buy that much software per capita anyway)? :|

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"] rumble is a gimmick.. or was.. bet you like your rumble now? analog stick are a gimmick.. bet you like it now? yeah, keep being sad that little white box with its gimmicky controller is wiping the floor with your console of choice and taking away your games.dotWithShoes

Games aren't designed solely around rumble. If they were, they'd be terrible. It's a minor addition, just like waggle.

The wii isn't taking away games.

Okay. 2 games. ._.;

You know someone posted an EA earnings table in another thread that I found interesting.

Considering the attention the Wii is supposedly getting it is not exactly EA's highest source of income.

Which begs the question: why make a game for such a crappy piece of hardware when you're not even going to use it's only asset (aside from large userbase, who doesn't even buy that much software per capita anyway)? :|

Timstuff

1. Shorter development periods

2. Developers already know the hardware

3. demographics

4. Bigger userbase

5. easier to be profitable

6. ITS THE MARKET LEADER

7. The same reason the PSP is being overlooked by the DS

8. Wiis attach rate is better than the PS3. And atach rate is becoming irrelevant since they are already almost bigger than PS360 combined

9. Did i already say that a AAA game is still alot cheaper to do, just like the EA guy said?

Considering the attention the Wii is supposedly getting it is not exactly EA's highest source of income.

AnnoyedDragon

Attention ITS getting? Or is GOING TO get?

EA is doing what its doing because they looked at that chart and saw that they didnt bet on the market leader. Add the fact that they are bleeding money like crazy and it was a pretty damn predictable thing to do. They are late to the party actually

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]They lost 600 million...what do you think they are going to do? Keep losing money?Kahuna_1

Or EA needs to drop its weakest studios, and maybe reconsider how many next gen games to make. They had Left 4 Dead, Mirror's Edge, and Dead Space...those are 3 good games that should have helped soldify the quarter...not to mention Rock Band 2. That was the mistake they made. They made it timed exclusive to the 360 and they got screwed like I knew they would. Guitar Hero picked up sales while RB2 wasnt out and they lost out big time by not being on the Wii.

They need to use the Wii now to get back on track, then once things settle they can go back to full time on the PS3 and 360.

Yeah, in Retrospect, The Rockband 2 Deal that M$ paid for didn't really help Rockband 2 at all. Sure, the money given to them should have held them over, but at the expense of giving Guitar Hero Leverage on their clients.

The Timed Exclusive Hurt Rockband 2's install base, and Brand recognition to potential new customers.

I severely doubt EA will take M$ money when Rockband 3 comes around, it would have been more profitable to let RockBand 2 sell at it's regular pace in the long run, they probably missed out on RB2 DLC sales as well.

after reading this thread i find it so funny that console gamers call pc gamers elitists. these xbox360 and ps3 owners got a 100$ more expensive toy and look at their elitist attitude towards the Wii. just imagine their attitude if they had a 1000$ dedicated gaming monster pc...SamiRDuran

[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"]after reading this thread i find it so funny that console gamers call pc gamers elitists. these xbox360 and ps3 owners got a 100$ more expensive toy and look at their elitist attitude towards the Wii. just imagine their attitude if they had a 1000$ dedicated gaming monster pc...Grinning_Demon

Attention ITS getting? Or is GOING TO get?

EA is doing what its doing because they looked at that chart and saw that they didnt bet on the market leader. Add the fact that they are bleeding money like crazy and it was a pretty damn predictable thing to do. They are late to the party actually

Grinning_Demon

So you're arguing the reason the Wii was a poor earner for EA is because they didn't tap it properly? Excuse me for not seeing this as a good thing, if some of the casual crap I have seen come out of EA isn't utilizing the Wii audience I'd hate to see what they produce now.

[QUOTE="channtheman1"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]EA only cares about money so this was expected.JangoWuzHere

[QUOTE="Grinning_Demon"]

Attention ITS getting? Or is GOING TO get?

EA is doing what its doing because they looked at that chart and saw that they didnt bet on the market leader. Add the fact that they are bleeding money like crazy and it was a pretty damn predictable thing to do. They are late to the party actually

AnnoyedDragon

So you're arguing the reason the Wii was a poor earner for EA is because they didn't tap it properly? Excuse me for not seeing this as a good thing, if some of the casual crap I have seen come out of EA isn't utilizing the Wii audience I'd hate to see what they produce now.

So casual crap doesnt sell and you somehow spinned it into something negative? You say you'd hate to see what people want when they dont buy casual EA crap like Celebrity Deathmach as if what they want is worse games? Yeah i know the concept of spinning things to make our arguments look better but you're really pushing it here.Grinning_Demon

Spinning things? Where have you been the last two years? Anyone who refers to casual shovelware being a significant chunk of the Wii exclusive lineup as 'spinning' hasn't been paying attention.

I also didn't say it didn't sell, I made no reference to whether or not it sells. The problem is it does sell, no matter how face palm worthy some of these ridiculous Wii casual titles are they sell by the truckload. That isn't a good thing, not for the people who hang around places like this that expect modern high budget titles from developers.

So when a publisher like EA says they are putting half their effort into the Wii, that's concern worthy for anyone who doesn't share Nintendo's vision of gaming.

For every entertainment medium there is a mass market, the Wii is the gaming equivalent of reality TV and gossip magazines; something the majority can get into but few can respect.

I also didn't say it didn't sell, I made no reference to whether or not it sells. The problem is it does sell, no matter how face palm worthy some of these ridiculous Wii casual titles are they sell by the truckload. AnnoyedDragon

So when a publisher like EA says they are putting half their effort into the Wii, that's concern worthy for anyone who doesn't share Nintendo's vision of gaming.

For every entertainment medium there is a mass market, the Wii is the gaming equivalent of reality TV and gossip magazines; something the majority can get into but few can respect.AnnoyedDragon

[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]They lost 600 million...what do you think they are going to do? Keep losing money?TheNextOrder

[QUOTE="htekemerald"]Dont they already get half of their support in shovle ware?hakanakumono

It doesn't really matter either way.

I think both sides of this argument is a bit silly. Half of EA's emphasis could mean a lot of things. EA has a lot of development studios..I think that people who believe the Wii is killing gaming are a bit misguided, as well as the annoying sheep that keep wishing for the demise of HD gaming. Yes, certain publishers will create more games for the Wii but that doesn't mean that they are going to abandon high end gaming. There will always be companies that will want to push the technology envelope and the larger publishers will always have a high end element within in their game catalog.

There are too many HD consoles out there for development of games on those systems to dry up. Yes, there are a crapload of Wii's being sold, but there are millions of PS3's and 360's out there also. I don't think that there will be much of a change at all. EA's been singing this song for the last 2 years.

And they aren't the largest publisher anymore, Actiblizzard? Blactivision? is.

Link?
Cuz i see Ubisoft making less money in the Wii then PS3 360 and DS, same with EA, their Wii revenue is just bad. horrible considering its the biggest userbase
No, most casual titles dont sell by the truckload not even close.

Grinning_Demon

Here you are saying casual Wii titles are not big sellers, using EAs Wii profits as an example.

EA is doing what its doing because they looked at that chart and saw that they didnt bet on the market leader. Add the fact that they are bleeding money like crazy and it was a pretty damn predictable thing to do. They are late to the party actually.

Grinning_Demon

Here you are saying casual Wii titles are big sellers, saying EA is late to the market so their profits cannot be used to judge Wii sales.

Make up your mind then ask a question.

In regard to casual game sales; if you think they are so bad then what has been the casual market fuss the last two years and Nintendo gearing their console to cater to said audience?

BIGGEST Publisher to shift half its focus to Wii

Gaming RIP

According to IGN.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/950/950903p1.html

UK, February 4, 2009 - EA's John Riccitiello has spoken of how the publisher is to place half of its emphasis on the Wii, as it looks to 'rival Nintendo on their own platform'.

"Nintendo is the leader; they're getting half our emphasis in terms of title counts," said Riccitiello in the company's Q3 earning call, picked up by videogaming24/7, confirming that the hugely successful console will be a key platform for EA.

A Wii version of the space-bound survival horror Dead Space, announced in the same call, appears to be one of the first signs of this new focus.

HOPEFULLY ALL THE OTHER PUBLISHERS DONT PLAY FOLLOW THE LEADER, OR IM QUITTING GAMING!!!

TheNextOrder

Acitivision is the biggest publisher, not EA