From Joystiq.
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/06/09/origins-demartini-steam-sales-cheapen-intellectual-property/
Considering the desolate wasteland that EAs origin is compared to Steam, i wouldnt start talking crap just yet. Hey at least it isnt GFWL.
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EA has a bad habit of talking smack about things that do better then them. Remember when they said BF3 would outsell CoD and they made fun of Elite?
Honestly, this is just their way of saying that they think the business and corporations matter more then the gamers that buy their games. They don't want to give us good deals, so they insult Steam for treating us incredibly well.
I just hope Origin fails already, not because I'm a Steam fanboy, but because Origin honestly has nothing to offer compared to Steam or GoG except BF3 really, and its not nearly as good or polished as Steam is.
Steam is one of the best things to ever happen to gaming IMO. The reason pc gamers buy so many games is the price. Sure I would reather have a physical copy but when the price of the DD version is much lower then it makes it easy to forget about the hard copy. I know personally that I would not have half of they games I own if not for steam. As a matter of fact I have so many games I can't play them all.
Agree fully. Normally I'm the type of person that won't buy something just because its on sale its only if i actually want it. But when I see a certain game on sale on steam and I know I've wanted to play it I figure might as well get it cheap now because when i want to play it itll be back to full price. This is the glory of the steam sale.Steam is one of the best things to ever happen to gaming IMO. The reason pc gamers buy so many games is the price. Sure I would reather have a physical copy but when the price of the DD version is much lower then it makes it easy to forget about the hard copy. I know personally that I would not have half of they games I own if not for steam. As a matter of fact I have so many games I can't play them all.
noscope-ak47
Thats funny because I seem to recall buying several games dirt cheap on Origin. They are just trash talking because Origin isn't as sucessful as they would like.
I don't hear developers complaining when they make a ton of cash off of a game that no one planned on buying because Steam offered it on a huge sale. I recall one company saying that they made more revenue years after realease on a Steam sale weekend than they did in the first month after release.
Customers are happy. Developers are happy. Steam is happy. EA isn't happy.
[QUOTE="noscope-ak47"]Agree fully. Normally I'm the type of person that won't buy something just because its on sale its only if i actually want it. But when I see a certain game on sale on steam and I know I've wanted to play it I figure might as well get it cheap now because when i want to play it itll be back to full price. This is the glory of the steam sale.Steam is one of the best things to ever happen to gaming IMO. The reason pc gamers buy so many games is the price. Sure I would reather have a physical copy but when the price of the DD version is much lower then it makes it easy to forget about the hard copy. I know personally that I would not have half of they games I own if not for steam. As a matter of fact I have so many games I can't play them all.
blues35301
I know that steam may not sell games at full price but they make up for that with voulume. I brought a indie pack of games I would never have got but the price was right.
Wow, I think this calls for an Origin boycott ;)dovbergYou don't need a boycott when no one uses it in the first place.
What is the point that EA service is not doing the numbers like steam is ??Whether you love to bash on EA and make love to Steam or not, they have a good point.
lx_theo
That the pc market does better than the 360 and ps3 combined??
That EA makes you use their own servers so that used games need to pay to pay online.
What is the point that EA service is not doing the numbers like steam is ??[QUOTE="lx_theo"]
Whether you love to bash on EA and make love to Steam or not, they have a good point.
noscope-ak47
That the pc market does better than the 360 and ps3 combined??
That EA makes you use their own servers so that used games need to pay to pay online.
I never said EA is doing it better... I am saying that they have a good point that the discount system Steam uses devalues franchises and brand names.I really wish they decided to get their panties in a bunch after ME3 was released.... I still wanna play it even though the complaints are high, and the ending is a lol-er. I refuse to allow origin on my pc though. There was already a thread on this but yeah, they're getting pissy, because they're strictly business, where as steam is business and the community. Guess which one will have a more dedicated fanbase, always and forever.
I swear if heightened intelligence monkeys took over as Ceos at EA, you have nearly identical results.
Go drive another developer into the ground and hoard their IPs you insufferable fvcks. And go fvck off and trashtalk the very thing you copy you hypocritical oxygen thieves.
Oh and I had more fun with $5-$10 games than the steaming piles of sh*t you flog at $110.
Go drive another developer into the ground and hoard their IPs you insufferable fvcks. And go fvck off and trashtalk the very thing you copy you hypocritical oxygen thieves.
Oh and I had more fun with $5-$10 games than the steaming piles of sh*t you flog at $110.
Vesica_Prime
Calm down bro.. calm down... you don't need to kill nobody today :|
Is this starting to become a trend at EA?
1. Talk smack about a rival company's product and how much their product is better.
2. Watch their product fail to live up to what they hyped it to be.
3. Pretend they weren't serious about the smack talk before.
4. ??
5. Profit!
Sure they would have but when the sale hits everybody picks up games. Sure they could keep the old price and sell a couple copies or drop the price and move hundreds of copies.Never say never, it just ends badly.
If publishers and developers didn't want 75% off sales, they would have either renegotiated with Valve or abandoned Steam a very long time ago.
LordRork
Sure they would have but when the sale hits everybody picks up games. Sure they could keep the old price and sell a couple copies or drop the price and move hundreds of copies.
noscope-ak47
Absolutely. The artistic integrity argument only goes so far, and with games usually on multiple services and platforms I find the "intellectual property" argument a load of rubbish. The publishers must be fairly happy to have games sold for peanuts given the way it raises the games' profile on the service and forums like these...particularly when they've probably done the vast majority of their full price sales in the first month.
Calm down bro.. calm down... you don't need to kill nobody today :|
Joedgabe
Sorry mate, EA's trash talking just bothers me. Smacks of the holier than thou attitude all whilst being hypocritical in their business.
[QUOTE="noscope-ak47"]What is the point that EA service is not doing the numbers like steam is ??[QUOTE="lx_theo"]
Whether you love to bash on EA and make love to Steam or not, they have a good point.
lx_theo
That the pc market does better than the 360 and ps3 combined??
That EA makes you use their own servers so that used games need to pay to pay online.
I never said EA is doing it better... I am saying that they have a good point that the discount system Steam uses devalues franchises and brand names. Go learn economics. What Steam does is fishing in a lot of customers who wouldn't have otherwise even considered the games at the original prices. When a game comes out, at the original price there is a certain number of players interested in buying. After those players bought the game, what's next? Simply waiting for people to change their mind about the price? No, instead they should discount the price once in awhile, that way players who aren't willing to pay the full price may get the game too. What's the end result? The developer managed to make sales to both the primary audience, and secondary audiences who would only pay discounted prices. They manage to make more money. It's not as if the people who paid for the game at full price start demanding for refund. Unless, of course, the game sucks, but then they are demanding refund not because of the price, but because of an absence of quality. The games are also digital copies too, so there is little room for resale.your average full price game profits will happens in the first 1-3 months after a game then begin to taper off.
the issue that EA, Sony, Microsoft, and others with their digital stores don't get is you cannot expect sales to continue for your titles 1 or more years down the road if you maintain asking for a full price of the game, when 10 or more retailers and services are offering the same "cheapend intellectual property" at a much lower price.
Steam isn't cheapening intellectual properties, it's keeping it alive by 1. helping to undercut pirates by offering some discount to a game, no hassle, no torrents, not screwing around with files. 2. getting the games in the hands of more players.
There right in a way
If you bring huge AAA games for 10$, you complelty destroy any attempt of indie or smaller developers to get in the marekt, eventually destroying any chance we have to see new unique experiences than AAA huge budget more of the same games only
So, essentially they are right, even though they do mention it as rivals
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