Early AAAs mean nothing

Having just over 1 million sales after 3 months of release doesn't help thoughsuper_mario_128

I don't think anyone in here really believes the PS3 will fail.

I think many would be surprised if it didn't dominate like the PS2. It's getting all the major titles the PS2 did and Sony is still number one in consoles.
the-very-best

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]I don't think anyone in here really believes the PS3 will fail.

I think many would be surprised if it didn't dominate like the PS2. It's getting all the major titles the PS2 did and Sony is still number one in consoles.
kansasdude2009

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"]Having just over 1 million sales after 3 months of release doesn't help thoughThrice_III

I don't think anyone in here really believes the PS3 will fail.

I think many would be surprised if it didn't dominate like the PS2. It's getting all the major titles the PS2 did and Sony is still number one in consoles.
the-very-best

The DS the main handheld of this gen was released on November 2004....it took 10 months till August 05 till Nintendo got Advance Wars Duel Strike...So tell me whos winning the handheld wars?
So dont be idotic and predict the PS3 is ganna fail just because of a non early AAA gamepoopinloop32

[QUOTE="kansasdude2009"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]I don't think anyone in here really believes the PS3 will fail.

I think many would be surprised if it didn't dominate like the PS2. It's getting all the major titles the PS2 did and Sony is still number one in consoles.
the-very-best

[QUOTE="poopinloop32"]The DS the main handheld of this gen was released on November 2004....it took 10 months till August 05 till Nintendo got Advance Wars Duel Strike...So tell me whos winning the handheld wars?
So dont be idotic and predict the PS3 is ganna fail just because of a non early AAA gamemjarantilla

The competition is much stronger this time and Sony doesn't have the lead it had last time and then there is the price.

I think you have too much faith.
cakeorrdeath

It means something. It means that I can be enjoying a really good game early in a console's life cycle.DrinkDuff

Exactly.

After all, that is what this is supposed to be about isn't it? Playing good games?

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]The competition is much stronger this time and Sony doesn't have the lead it had last time and then there is the price.

I think you have too much faith.
the-very-best

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="poopinloop32"]The DS the main handheld of this gen was released on November 2004....it took 10 months till August 05 till Nintendo got Advance Wars Duel Strike...So tell me whos winning the handheld wars?
So dont be idotic and predict the PS3 is ganna fail just because of a non early AAA gamepoopinloop32

Wise words. Especially considering the HUGE numbers of assumptions in that post. That is purely an opinion piece. I expect most would argue greatly against your belief that the 360 is an upgraded PS2 whilst the PS3 is something new.
cakeorrdeath

Having just over 1 million sales after 3 months of release doesn't help thoughsuper_mario_128

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

Wise words. Especially considering the HUGE numbers of assumptions in that post. That is purely an opinion piece. I expect most would argue greatly against your belief that the 360 is an upgraded PS2 whilst the PS3 is something new.
the-very-best

4. True. But the PS3 is not a PS2.
cakeorrdeath

I don't think anyone in here really believes the PS3 will fail.

I think many would be surprised if it didn't dominate like the PS2. It's getting all the major titles the PS2 did and Sony is still number one in consoles.
the-very-best

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]
4. True. But the PS3 is not a PS2.
the-very-best

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"]Having just over 1 million sales after 3 months of release doesn't help thoughThrice_III

IF you were in a race and let the other runner have a 10 mile head start, then started running the first couple miles slightly faster than they started, but they were currently still running faster than you, you would never catch up.

The DS the main handheld of this gen was released on November 2004....it took 10 months till August 05 till Nintendo got Advance Wars Duel Strike...So tell me whos winning the handheld wars?
So dont be idotic and predict the PS3 is ganna fail just because of a non early AAA gamepoopinloop32

Yes as soon as they are slapped in the face by the price tag.

People also don't live in a vacuum they are effected but what there friends are playing and saying and the media.

It's not getting the sales at the moment which is leading to it losing developer support, which hinders the PS3s success.
cakeorrdeath

Mario 64 and Halo disagree with this topic title.nnavidson

I don't think anyone in here really believes the PS3 will fail.

I think many would be surprised if it didn't dominate like the PS2. It's getting all the major titles the PS2 did and Sony is still number one in consoles.
the-very-best

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

Yes as soon as they are slapped in the face by the price tag.

People also don't live in a vacuum they are effected but what there friends are playing and saying and the media.

It's not getting the sales at the moment which is leading to it losing developer support, which hinders the PS3s success.
the-very-best

lol at the last line.

Your first point, price tag. (First off consumers don't buy consoles till about 2 years after launch) You're underestimating the Sony brand name in the market. Look at it another way....um...Ipod is much more expensive than other MP3 players in the market and does a lot less in terms of features but it still sells better than the rest due to people knowing the brand, and it being "cool" among casuals.

Same thing will happen with the iPhone.

I see no reason as to why the console market is different. Brand power is strong in every market.
the-very-best

[QUOTE="kansasdude2009"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]I don't think anyone in here really believes the PS3 will fail.

I think many would be surprised if it didn't dominate like the PS2. It's getting all the major titles the PS2 did and Sony is still number one in consoles.
the-very-best

The Playstation name is certainly helping the PS3 but that doesn't garuntee its success especially not to the levels you are talking about.

As to it being 2 years before casulals start buying anything could happen by then. The next title akin to GTA could suddenly be released exclusive to the 360 or Wii.

Games consoles are very differnt from your examples as people buy them much more for the software than the hardware.
cakeorrdeath

[QUOTE="nnavidson"]Mario 64 and Halo disagree with this topic title.the-very-best

Yes, they do.  The title is Early AAAs mean nothing.  Not, "Early AAA's not required to win generation".

Mario 64 and Halo are highly loved today.  Mario 64 basically created the 3d platformer and without Halo, there would be no Xbox 360.  I believe that means quite a lot, not nothing.

IS there any 1st generation PS or PS2 game that people are dying for the sequal, still highly regard the original?

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]
The Playstation name is certainly helping the PS3 but that doesn't garuntee its success especially not to the levels you are talking about.

As to it being 2 years before casulals start buying anything could happen by then. The next title akin to GTA could suddenly be released exclusive to the 360 or Wii.

Games consoles are very differnt from your examples as people buy them much more for the software than the hardware.
the-very-best

[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="nnavidson"]Mario 64 and Halo disagree with this topic title.nnavidson

Yes, they do.  The title is Early AAAs mean nothing.  Not, "Early AAA's not required to win generation".

Mario 64 and Halo are highly loved today.  Mario 64 basically created the 3d platformer and without Halo, there would be no Xbox 360.  I believe that means quite a lot, not nothing.

IS there any 1st generation PS or PS2 game that people are dying for the sequal, still highly regard the original?

I don't think anyone in here really believes the PS3 will fail.

I think many would be surprised if it didn't dominate like the PS2. It's getting all the major titles the PS2 did and Sony is still number one in consoles.
the-very-best

DC had a year head start and had more sales than the PS2 but nothing worked there.

Your last sentence doesn't make sense. People buy the consoles because they expect good software due to the brand name.
the-very-best

[QUOTE="nnavidson"]

[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="nnavidson"]Mario 64 and Halo disagree with this topic title.poopinloop32

Yes, they do.  The title is Early AAAs mean nothing.  Not, "Early AAA's not required to win generation".

Mario 64 and Halo are highly loved today.  Mario 64 basically created the 3d platformer and without Halo, there would be no Xbox 360.  I believe that means quite a lot, not nothing.

IS there any 1st generation PS or PS2 game that people are dying for the sequal, still highly regard the original?

System Wars was around during the PS2 obvious reign.  If it was only about winning the generation with sales, why did anyone post at SW during that time?

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]DC had a year head start and had more sales than the PS2 but nothing worked there.

Your last sentence doesn't make sense. People buy the consoles because they expect good software due to the brand name.
HuusAsking

I said a title akin, as in similar in success and appeal, not actually GTA. And I was just saying we couldn't know what will happen in 2 years not that it won't go to PS3.

DC had huge financial issues no support from the biggest publisher in the world and all sorts of other issues. It simply is not a comparible situation. It did not have more sales than the PS2. Most of its sales occured after Sega announced they were about to halt production.

People buy consoles because the good software they want is already out. Only hardcore early adopters buy for potential.
cakeorrdeath