EGM Lair Score: 6.0 / 5.5 / 5.0

Can you say "Ancient".CerMakAlot

[QUOTE="CerMakAlot"]Can you say "Ancient".Demetri_OS

yes we know, it hasnt been flopped i mean reviewed by gamespot yet.xjet039

They didn't even review the Gold version :roll:

We (Play) received the same review copy that I assume all the other mags did, which had optimized frame rates in the earlier missions, but poor frame rates in the last few missions and several bugs. We contacted Factor 5 and asked for all known issues and Julian himself replied with a detailed list, promising that the later levels were being optimized for frame rates, the bugs were being fixed, and that one aspect of the control would be improved. They said they would have a gold master candidate ready by our ship date, so I wrote the review on the assumptions that their promises would be kept, got the gold master candidate right before we went to press, and played that version for a few hours to confirm that they had addressed the issues. That gold master candidate was dated roughly a month ago, and as far as I know represents the game's final optimization.

I'm not sure what version the OP played-ours were never labeled "Preview Code", but a print mag's Review Code is sometimes a web site's Preview Code. Our last-received version of the game does not run at a rock-solid 30 fps, but I did not consider the frame rate problems to be an issue at all. I don't mind a few frame rate dips into the 20's here and there, if it's for the purpose of making an otherwise amazing looking game. I'm certainly not as sensitive to frame rate issues as the OP, but I don't think the average game enthusiast is either.

Just something to point out to the people who want to hate on Lair here-Sony and Factor 5 went all out to make sure the print mags got review copies as early as possible and frequent updates so that they could have reviews out before the game's release (which was at that point supposed to be August 8th, I think). Companies do NOT do that when they don't have a lot of faith in their games, so clearly both Factor 5 and Sony thought they had a critical hit on their hands, and any suggestion that they're trying to bury it or "send it out to die" is absurd. And having written the 9 review, I (obviously) agree. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=176336&page=12

Sauce?aleksanderson

Whats "Sauce ",is like Weak/old or something?

[QUOTE="xjet039"]yes we know, it hasnt been flopped i mean reviewed by gamespot yet.Demetri_OS

i clearly know what blue dragon got, and it got A from an egm reviewer lair didnt get anything.

Lair and Heavenly Sword will flop on Gamespot. Quote me if your that convinced that I am wrong. Lilac_Benjie

So you hyped Heavenly Sword AAA just to watch it flop? You are bizarre.

Can you say "Ancient"?

And dude, you never buy a console for only one game.CerMakAlot

I did it for the PS2, MGS2 was the game that made me buy it. Naturally, after buying that game I played other games on the PS2 but I would not have bought it if it was not for MGS2. There are games that you would play if you had the console, and then there are games you buy a console for.

[QUOTE="CerMakAlot"]Can you say "Ancient"?

And dude, you never buy a console for only one game.TyrantDragon55

I did it for the PS2, MGS2 was the game that made me buy it. Naturally, after buying that game I played other games on the PS2 but I would not have bought it if it was not for MGS2. There are games that you would play if you had the console, and then there are games you buy a console for.

He is right,people buy consoles for just one game.

Gamecube-SSBM

Xbox-Halo

Ps2-Silent hill 3 in my case.

PSP-Mortal kombat portable,it sucked so I changed my reason to Megaman powered up! which was super,8.5 my ass it deserved 9.0 at least.

Xbox 360-Gears of war

Ps3-Mgs4

DS-Castlevania Portrait of Ruin.

And so on...

jezus christ! how dare you come with this and thik that it's NEW???

GTFO noob

furtherfan

Someone is going to get mod real bad...

[QUOTE="aleksanderson"]Sauce?Banhammer3000

Whats "Sauce ",is like Weak/old or something?

sauce is sauce.

he wants sauce.

I want sauce.

no one has provided a credible sauce.

[QUOTE="furtherfan"]

jezus christ! how dare you come with this and thik that it's NEW???

GTFO noob

Banhammer3000

Someone is going to get mod real bad...

i don't mind. i spoke the truth.

Can you say "Ancient"?

And dude, you never buy a console for only one game.CerMakAlot

You do if you buy a PS3,lol.

[QUOTE="Banhammer3000"]

[QUOTE="aleksanderson"]Sauce?Onetouchable

Whats "Sauce ",is like Weak/old or something?

sauce is sauce.

he wants sauce.

I want sauce.

no one has provided a credible sauce.

Well thanks for the explanation but is not enough to avenge your Dead but ok.

[QUOTE="Banhammer3000"][QUOTE="furtherfan"]

jezus christ! how dare you come with this and thik that it's NEW???

GTFO noob

furtherfan

Someone is going to get mod real bad...

i don't mind. i spoke the truth.

True,I salute you!.

Your Dead will be Avenged.

[QUOTE="Onetouchable"][QUOTE="Banhammer3000"]

[QUOTE="aleksanderson"]Sauce?Banhammer3000

Whats "Sauce ",is like Weak/old or something?

sauce is sauce.

he wants sauce.

I want sauce.

no one has provided a credible sauce.

Well thanks for the explanation but is not enough to avenge your Dead but ok.

you grammar both confuses and infuriates me

[QUOTE="Onetouchable"][QUOTE="Banhammer3000"]

[QUOTE="aleksanderson"]Sauce?Banhammer3000

Whats "Sauce ",is like Weak/old or something?

sauce is sauce.

he wants sauce.

I want sauce.

no one has provided a credible sauce.

Well thanks for the explanation but is not enough to avenge your Dead but ok.

Sauce = Source.

Remember if it is a tasty cake. You must eat it.