Enclave, one of the most visually demanding games on Xbox - coming to Wii [56k]

This looked better than Doom 3 and Riddick. It was probably the most visually impressive games on the Xbox.

Now it's coming to Wii. Proof the Wii can handle the most graphically demanding game on the Xbox. Fact.

Your not exactly helping the Wii by baically saying the Wii's = to last gen's xbox in terms of graphical power.

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Also with Enclave coming to Wii, there is a chance Riddick might too.

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Also with Enclave coming to Wii, there is a chance Riddick might too.

Fried_Shrimp

This looked better than Doom 3 and Riddick. It was probably the most visually impressive games on the Xbox.

Now it's coming to Wii. Proof the Wii can handle the most graphically demanding game on the Xbox. Fact.

Fried_Shrimp

[QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"]

This looked better than Doom 3 and Riddick. It was probably the most visually impressive games on the Xbox.

Now it's coming to Wii. Proof the Wii can handle the most graphically demanding game on the Xbox. Fact.

Timbury

[QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"]

This looked better than Doom 3 and Riddick. It was probably the most visually impressive games on the Xbox.

Now it's coming to Wii. Proof the Wii can handle the most graphically demanding game on the Xbox. Fact.

It doesn't look that good but I don't expect anymore from the Wii.

Interesting.

Might pick this up if they fix some of the problems.

Yay? Is this Nintendo's attempt at luring the hardcore gamers back to the Wii? With a game I could buy for 2$?xsubtownerx

It doesn't look that great to me...>.> The lighting is over-simplified compared to something like...
Note: Riddick was from 2004, Enclave was from 2002.

Yay? Is this Nintendo's attempt at luring the hardcore gamers back to the Wii? With a game I could buy for 2$?xsubtownerx

Considering they're not the ones who are making this port, no. :|

Loved the Starbreeze developed version of Enclave.

splinter cell chaos theory looks better thenthat

[QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"]

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Also with Enclave coming to Wii, there is a chance Riddick might too.

bobbetybob

WOW THATS AMAZING !!! You mean to tell me a system that launched for $250 and came out about 3 years ago can do everything that a 10 year old xbox can do thats no longer even in production? WOHOO GO NINTENDO!!!

ps. God you sheep are easily pleased.

it is..? wow

Omg, Doom looked better than that, and so did riddick.

I've yet to see any game on the Wii match any of the best xbox 1 games when it cost to graphics. EX Doom 3, Conker: Live & Reloaded, and Chaos Theory. One that would come close is SMS.

At least someone is pushing the Wii's limit (a little bit).

Now if only we could put the Shading that Super Mario Galaxy has....

I don't care how visually demanding it is, that game looks ugly.

Now it's coming to Wii. Proof the Wii can handle the most graphically demanding game on the Xbox. Fact.

Fried_Shrimp

Assuming the game runs and looks just as well,if not,better than the original version. Chances are,it may look and run worse than the original,which wouldn't help as evidence for the Wii's sake. Not to mention the fact that the topic has to be debated to begin with.

I've yet to see any game on the Wii match any of the best xbox 1 games when it cost to graphics. EX Doom 3, Conker: Live & Reloaded, and Chaos Theory. One that would come close is SMS.

GTSaiyanjin2

Lol wut, the game looks ok, but Riddick and Doom look a lot better especially the lighting and shadows in Riddick. This looks more on a par with Fable. The Wii doesn't need any proof that it can produce better graphics though, SMG easily proved that over 2 years ago.bobbetybob

[QUOTE="bobbetybob"][QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"]

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Also with Enclave coming to Wii, there is a chance Riddick might too.

GulliversTravel

No The wii's GPU is stronger than the Xbox's GPU. The only thing stopping the wii from having better looking games from being released is the Wii's TEV shaders. The TEV shaders is something most developers don't know how to code for and because of this they don't bother trying. Its not harder to code for either, but they are too lazy to try. In reality TEV shaders can do the exact same thing as standard shaders. The GC TEV shaders could produce the equivolent of a pixel shader 2.0 (xbox used that) and the wii can produce the equivolent of pixel shader 3.0 (DX9), you just have to go about doing it a different way than the standard shaders the xbox uses.

The Wii used OpenGL as its graphic API. Mario Galaxy showed perfectly the potential of the wii's TEV shaders. Everything had a bumpmap, I mean EVERYTHING!!!! If the devs arent lazy and actually try to program for the wii's TEV shaders then the game will look just like the original if not better. Also on a side note the GC was slightly stronger than the xbox.

Besides having a just as capable GPU, it also had a significantly faster CPU. The GC's CPU was a 450mhz powerPC, and the xbox had a 730mhz intel 3. The GC's PowerPC acted like a 800mhz intel 3 with short pipelines (thats a good thing). The xbox's intel 3 had long pipelines (bad). Yes teh GC was stronger than the xbox 1. Deal with it. The Wii's CPU is equal to a 1.1-1.3ghz intel 3-S or a 1ghz Intel p4 willamette. Ive seen homebrew games that look better than some of the junk real 3rd party devs release for the wii. So if the GC>Xbox1 then the Wii>>>>Xbox1.

If you want a the correct order of most powerful consoles here it is. (*)means i have one, (^) means i dont.

PC(*)>PS3(^)>360(*)>Wii(*)>GC(*)>Xbox(*)>PS2(^)>Dreamcast(^)

If you dont understand what i siad thats fine (most people won't), but dont go off spuriting random tehcnical lingo without knowing what your talking about.

[QUOTE="painguy1"]

[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"]The Wiis GPU simply cant handle Riddick, that game makes extensive use of DX8 effects, something that it cant do.GulliversTravel

No The wii's GPU is stronger than the Xbox's GPU. The only thing stopping the wii from having better looking games from being released is the Wii's TEV shaders. The TEV shaders is something most developers don't know how to code for and because of this they don't bother trying. Its not harder to code for either, but they are too lazy to try. In reality TEV shaders can do the exact same thing as standard shaders. The GC TEV shaders could produce the equivolent of a pixel shader 2.0 (xbox used that) and the wii can produce the equivolent of pixel shader 3.0 (DX9), you just have to go about doing it a different way than the standard shaders the xbox uses.

The Wii used OpenGL as its graphic API. Mario Galaxy showed perfectly the potential of the wii's TEV shaders. Everything had a bumpmap, I mean EVERYTHING!!!! If the devs arent lazy and actually try to program for the wii's TEV shaders then the game will look just like the original if not better. Also on a side note the GC was slightly stronger than the xbox.

Besides having a just as capable GPU, it also had a significantly faster CPU. The GC's CPU was a 450mhz powerPC, and the xbox had a 730mhz intel 3. The GC's PowerPC acted like a 800mhz intel 3 with short pipelines (thats a good thing). The xbox's intel 3 had long pipelines (bad). Yes teh GC was stronger than the xbox 1. Deal with it. The Wii's CPU is equal to a 1.1-1.3ghz intel 3-S or a 1ghz Intel p4 willamette. Ive seen homebrew games that look better than some of the junk real 3rd party devs release for the wii. So if the GC>Xbox1 then the Wii>>>>Xbox1.

If you want a the correct order of most powerful consoles here it is. (*)means i have one, (^) means i dont.

PC(*)>PS3(^)>360(*)>Wii(*)>GC(*)>Xbox(*)>PS2(^)>Dreamcast(^)

If you dont understand what i siad thats fine (most people won't), but dont go off spuriting random tehcnical lingo without knowing what your talking about.

im going to ask you a question about the Wii's GPU if you can answer it ill submit. If you cant then ill know your just in denial

What are the 4 registers on the Wii's Hollywood GPU for communication between the GPU and the (insert name here) What is this proccess called. What is the bit bandwith, the memory address, the name of each the siad proccesses , and the function of each proccess for the corresponding proccess? What is the main purpose of these registers in the first place? What is the (insert answer herre)?

Good luck answering that :lol: If you by some amazing feet find out the answer(within the next 10 miniutes) then i MIGHT! take what u siad into consideration. Just before you give me a smart remark i want to let you know that i do extensive programming for the wii. well see who knows what very soon.

A 6.8 port game coming to the Wii?

Why is this exciting? Its a port of a mediocre last generation game that wasn't any good to begin with. And when you compare these visuals with current generation standards its just plain embarrassing. Please, please tell me that sheep aren't hyping this. There are much better games to look forward to.

Until the Wii has a game that's as good looking as Riddick, I refuse to believe that it has the power of an Xbox. KHAndAnime

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]Until the Wii has a game that's as good looking as Riddick, I refuse to believe that it has the power of an Xbox. Scythes777

[QUOTE="Scythes777"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]Until the Wii has a game that's as good looking as Riddick, I refuse to believe that it has the power of an Xbox. punkrocker163

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[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"]You clearly dont know aht youre talking about if you put the GC above the XBOX:| But let me guess, oh look its RE4:roll: Im sorry but in the real world, we cant keep blaming developers because the results come out wrong on out favourite consoles, THREE YEARS STRAIGHT.GulliversTravel

im going to ask you a question about the Wii's GPU if you can answer it ill submit. If you cant then ill know your just in denial

What are the 4 registers on the Wii's Hollywood GPU for communication between the GPU and the (insert name here) What is this proccess called. What is the bit bandwith, the memory address, the name of each the siad proccesses , and the function of each proccess for the corresponding proccess? What is the main purpose of these registers in the first place? What is the (insert answer herre)?

Good luck answering that :lol: If you by some amazing feet find out the answer(within the next 10 miniutes) then i MIGHT! take what u siad into consideration. Just before you give me a smart remark i want to let you know that i do extensive programming for the wii. well see who knows what very soon.

The GPU itself is just a faster version of what we saw in the GC. But again, whats your proof, RE4? The XBOX had some of the best looking games out on the system.

1. you have fallen for the megahertz myth "Heck you dont even know that PIII CPUs are faster per mhz than a P4." P4's actually went up to 3ghz and were limited to 10ghz. P3's went up to 1.4ghz. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megahertz_myth

2. The Wii GPU uses a new architecture. it is obvious through use of new effects such as emulated soft shadows.

4. Im not surprised you accuse me of making up info when it is u who is doing that.

Answers to the question i asked you.

Q:What are the 4 registers on the Wii's Hollywood GPU for communication between the GPU and the (insert name here)?

A:0x0d800000, 0x0d800004, 0x0d800008, 0x0d80000c

Q:What is this proccess called?

A: I/O proccesses through the use of the IPC engine

Q:What is the bit bandwith?

A: 32-bit

Q: the memory address?

A:0x0d800000, 0x0d800004, 0x0d800008, 0x0d80000c

Q:the name of each the siad proccesses?

A:W_IPC_PPCMSG, HW_IPC_PPCCTRL, HW_IPC_ARMMSG, HW_IPC_ARMCTRL

Q: the function of each proccess for the corresponding proccess?

A:Code read and write by both CPU's, Code only readable by Broadway(CPU),Partial access to both CPU's, Partial access to both CPU's different instance

Q:What is the main purpose of these registers in the first place?

A: Read and write data between two hardware

Q:What is the (insert answer herre)?

A: Starlet co-processor -200mhz GPU functions, CPU functions, I/O proccesses

ur making a fool out of ur self. you obviously have no idea what DX8 even is capable of or how shaders are made.

1. you have fallen for the megahertz myth "Heck you dont even know that PIII CPUs are faster per mhz than a P4." P4's actually went up to 3ghz and were limited to 10ghz. P3's went up to 1.4ghz. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megahertz_myth

2. The Wii GPU uses a new architecture. it is obvious through use of new effects such as emulated soft shadows.

4. Im not surprised you accuse me of making up info when it is u who is doing that.

Answers to the question i asked you.

Q:What are the 4 registers on the Wii's Hollywood GPU for communication between the GPU and the (insert name here)?

A:0x0d800000, 0x0d800004, 0x0d800008, 0x0d80000c

Q:What is this proccess called?

A: I/O proccesses through the use of the IPC engine

Q:What is the bit bandwith?

A: 32-bit

Q: the memory address?

A:0x0d800000, 0x0d800004, 0x0d800008, 0x0d80000c

Q:the name of each the siad proccesses?

A:W_IPC_PPCMSG, HW_IPC_PPCCTRL, HW_IPC_ARMMSG, HW_IPC_ARMCTRL

Q: the function of each proccess for the corresponding proccess?

A:Code read and write by both CPU's, Code only readable by Broadway(CPU),Partial access to both CPU's, Partial access to both CPU's different instance

Q:What is the main purpose of these registers in the first place?

A: Read and write data between two hardware

Q:What is the (insert answer herre)?

A: Starlet co-processor -200mhz GPU functions, CPU functions, I/O proccesses

ur making a fool out of ur self. you obviously have no idea what DX8 even is capable of or how shaders are made.

painguy1

Mr Expert, IM not the one whos fallen for the mhz myth, its YOU. The self-ownage here is funny because YOU are the one whos claiming P4 chips are automatically better than PIII simply down to higher rates.

In fact if you even had basic education in whats been happening in the hardware market, Intel ditched the P4 design for that very reason, they were trying to achieve high clock rates when it was meaningless.

That is the very reason why they went back to an OLDER design for their Conroe chip, might i remind you what that is? Please if you are illeterate on a subject, dont say anything, but if you want you can go celebrate a 6 year old game coming to the Wii:roll:

[QUOTE="painguy1"]

1. you have fallen for the megahertz myth "Heck you dont even know that PIII CPUs are faster per mhz than a P4." P4's actually went up to 3ghz and were limited to 10ghz. P3's went up to 1.4ghz. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megahertz_myth

2. The Wii GPU uses a new architecture. it is obvious through use of new effects such as emulated soft shadows.

4. Im not surprised you accuse me of making up info when it is u who is doing that.

Answers to the question i asked you.

Q:What are the 4 registers on the Wii's Hollywood GPU for communication between the GPU and the (insert name here)?

A:0x0d800000, 0x0d800004, 0x0d800008, 0x0d80000c

Q:What is this proccess called?

A: I/O proccesses through the use of the IPC engine

Q:What is the bit bandwith?

A: 32-bit

Q: the memory address?

A:0x0d800000, 0x0d800004, 0x0d800008, 0x0d80000c

Q:the name of each the siad proccesses?

A:W_IPC_PPCMSG, HW_IPC_PPCCTRL, HW_IPC_ARMMSG, HW_IPC_ARMCTRL

Q: the function of each proccess for the corresponding proccess?

A:Code read and write by both CPU's, Code only readable by Broadway(CPU),Partial access to both CPU's, Partial access to both CPU's different instance

Q:What is the main purpose of these registers in the first place?

A: Read and write data between two hardware

Q:What is the (insert answer herre)?

A: Starlet co-processor -200mhz GPU functions, CPU functions, I/O proccesses

ur making a fool out of ur self. you obviously have no idea what DX8 even is capable of or how shaders are made.

GulliversTravel

Mr Expert, IM not the one whos fallen for the mhz myth, its YOU. The self-ownage here is funny because YOU are the one whos claiming P4 chips are automatically better than PIII simply down to higher rates.

In fact if you even had basic education in whats been happening in the hardware market, Intel ditched the P4 design for that very reason, they were trying to achieve high clock rates when it was meaningless.

That is the very reason why they went back to an OLDER design for their Conroe chip, might i remind you what that is? Please if you are illeterate on a subject, dont say anything, but if you want you can go celebrate a 6 year old game coming to the Wii:roll:

Sorry but he knows what he is talking about. He is a programmer in training. Atleast ask Teuf or someone else who knows what they are talking about if you feel he is wrong.I also doubt that info is copy and pasted. From the outside looking in, hate to say it but you look very bad here.