Epic SAYS DVD-9 IS TOO SMALL FOR UT3 !!!

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Blu-ray Disc drive in PS3 could pay off with "Unreal Tournament III"

Epic Games' Unreal Tournament III is a PlayStation 3 exclusive for 2007. The main reason, according to the developer, is that Sony is more open to Epic's proposals for an open system to allow game modifications to be run on the PS3. There may also be another, however, for Epic's apparent favor of the Sony console.

Speaking at the Edinburgh Interactive Festival, Epic Games VP Mark Rein spoke highly of Blu-ray Disc's storage capacity. In fact, Epic may have to omit several maps in the Xbox 360 version due to space constraints posed by the traditional DVD-9.

"We'll compress some things. But you know, we may have fewer maps on the 360 version... Blu-ray has definitely given us a lot of legroom," said Rein in an Xboxer story. "And what's really cool is if you think forward and think about what we've done in the past with UT. We had UT 2003 and then we had UT 2004, which was everything in UT 2003 plus a whole bunch of great mod stuff that we went out and purchased from mod makers."

"If you think down the road, well maybe the next UT beyond this one, on Blu-ray disc, we might fill the whole damn disc with all the cool stuff the mod makers make," added Rein.

Wow a western dev the maker of GeOW no less that does not use cgi says dvd is too small, let the damage control begin like the pgr4 episode.

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#2 no_submission
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In b4 "bu.. but teh compression"
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and yet, I somehow doubt that the PC version will be on more then one disc. :?
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#6 tskeeve
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I don't want to be the one to say this, but this is old news by now on SW. And yeah, pretty much UT3 is going to be:

PC > PS3 >>> 360. The 360 version is pretty gimped compared to the pc and ps3 versions.

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Damn you and your lateness. This has been argued numerous times. He said "may" and a new article came out saying they will try and fit them on there, which I am sure they will, or work out a deal and put them on the Market Place.
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and yet, I somehow doubt that the PC version will be on more then one disc. :?Hewkii

but it does not matter, since the entire game is installed onto a hard drive.

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Good luck getting lems to admit it.
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Wow mods on a console should be the real headline here !!!
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#11 swamprat_basic
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They'll probably make the Xbox 360 users pay for the maps online.
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They'll probably make the Xbox 360 users pay for the maps online.swamprat_basic

I doubt it. Epic seems to be nice about wanting to give stuff away for free.

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Good luck getting lems to admit it.gamenux
indeed
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well.. thats too bad since they are making a PC version isn't it?
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#15 PS3_3DO
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Epic also said Gears couldn't run on the PS3. :|

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[QUOTE="Hewkii"]and yet, I somehow doubt that the PC version will be on more then one disc. :?Andrew0987

but it does not matter, since the entire game is installed onto a hard drive.

Never thought of that. How could I be such a duma$$. :lol:

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They'll probably make the Xbox 360 users pay for the maps online.swamprat_basic

EXACTAMUNDO !!!!!

I will be getting the pc version but I had no idea the ps3 version had mods and kbam support.

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Too early to tell, they're still working on the PC/PS3 versions.
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Epic also said Gears couldn't run on the PS3. :|

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epic also said gears is going to mac
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[QUOTE="swamprat_basic"]They'll probably make the Xbox 360 users pay for the maps online.LTomlinson21

I doubt it. Epic seems to be nice about wanting to give stuff away for free.

Actually it is already paid for by their LIVE subscription. :) Unless MS make them pay twice.

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and yet, I somehow doubt that the PC version will be on more then one disc. :?Hewkii

*facepalm*

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#23 gamenux
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Epic also sayed Gears couldn't run on the PS3. :|

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Of course Gears can't run on ps3. The game would need to be ported to ps3 runing the UE3 (ps3 version)

But this really give you doubt. Since Gears is based on UE and is released last year. Now they come out with UT3 based on the UE too so Gears could run on ps3 if they recompile the code for the ps3.

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[QUOTE="LTomlinson21"]

[QUOTE="swamprat_basic"]They'll probably make the Xbox 360 users pay for the maps online.gamenux

I doubt it. Epic seems to be nice about wanting to give stuff away for free.

Actually it is already paid for by their LIVE subscription. :) Unless MS make them pay twice.

What? MS shares Live income with developers that give stuff away for free?

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[QUOTE="swamprat_basic"]They'll probably make the Xbox 360 users pay for the maps online.LTomlinson21

I doubt it. Epic seems to be nice about wanting to give stuff away for free.



But Microsoft is not. They want to sell everything, thus being yet another thing Epic has spoken up about against microsoft. MS wanted to charge for the extra Gears maps. Epic did not.
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Not even gonna read comments..but Owned...
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[QUOTE="LTomlinson21"]

[QUOTE="swamprat_basic"]They'll probably make the Xbox 360 users pay for the maps online.0rin

I doubt it. Epic seems to be nice about wanting to give stuff away for free.



But Microsoft is not. They want to sell everything, thus being yet another thing Epic has spoken up about against microsoft. MS wanted to charge for the extra Gears maps. Epic did not.

And Microsoft isn't publishing UT3, so has no call on the cost of the UT3 maps.

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[QUOTE="LTomlinson21"]

[QUOTE="swamprat_basic"]They'll probably make the Xbox 360 users pay for the maps online.0rin

I doubt it. Epic seems to be nice about wanting to give stuff away for free.



But Microsoft is not. They want to sell everything, thus being yet another thing Epic has spoken up about against microsoft. MS wanted to charge for the extra Gears maps. Epic did not.

Microsoft published Gears of War. Microsoft isn't publishing UT3. Problem solved. They have no say in the pricing of the content for UT3.

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[QUOTE="LTomlinson21"]

[QUOTE="swamprat_basic"]They'll probably make the Xbox 360 users pay for the maps online.0rin

I doubt it. Epic seems to be nice about wanting to give stuff away for free.



But Microsoft is not. They want to sell everything, thus being yet another thing Epic has spoken up about against microsoft. MS wanted to charge for the extra Gears maps. Epic did not.

Being the publisher, they have every right to put a price on anything Gears related.

Just like Sony and the Resistance maps...:|

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Not even gonna read comments..but Owned...zero_snake99

Why? Because I proved it being a problem to be wrong?

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Not even gonna read comments..but Owned...zero_snake99
No this is ownage lmao

The DVD vs. Blu-Ray debate is being fired up again this morning, as PGR4 dev Bizarre Creations blames DVD size for the reason you won't see different times of day in PGR4.

Speaking on its official forums, a Bizarre spokesperson said: "You won't see different times of day per city because this involves recreating all the textures again (one for day and one for night). Whilst this wasn't a problem for our dev team, it was a problem fitting all this data onto a single DVD."

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Where have you been Brooklyn? Bizzare came out the next day and said there would be night and day and it wasn't an issue...
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[QUOTE="zero_snake99"]Not even gonna read comments..but Owned...BrooklynBomber

No this is ownage lmao

The DVD vs. Blu-Ray debate is being fired up again this morning, as PGR4 dev Bizarre Creations blames DVD size for the reason you won't see different times of day in PGR4.

Speaking on its official forums, a Bizarre spokesperson said: "You won't see different times of day per city because this involves recreating all the textures again (one for day and one for night). Whilst this wasn't a problem for our dev team, it was a problem fitting all this data onto a single DVD."

I like how you cut out the last sentence...

"So we've worked around the problem by providing different lighting models per city."

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Did this guy come out of a time capsule?
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Where have you been Brooklyn? Bizzare came out the next day and said there would be night and day and it wasn't an issue...LTomlinson21
I saw the damage control the next day saying that weather was new but no time of day has been confirmed that I know of???
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[QUOTE="LTomlinson21"]Where have you been Brooklyn? Bizzare came out the next day and said there would be night and day and it wasn't an issue...BrooklynBomber
I saw the damage control the next day saying that weather was new but no time of day has been confirmed that I know of???

From the part you cut out:

"So we've worked around the problem by providing different lighting models per city. For example, Macau is always in the daytime, but if you play it during a storm everything looks darker and more foreboding. If you play during a blizzard then things are slightly tinged blue and everything seems more frozen. Of course, playing this track in sunshine will make everything appear bright and yellowy."

Sounds pretty much the same as being night to me.

Mark Rein also said this today about if they have to cut out maps:

"First, he noted that praising Blu-Ray's capacity was in no way meant as a slight to the 360's DVD format, adding that any extra content could easily be made available for download. "

I got that quote from http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/

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Dude.

Nothing is confirmed yet.

How about we wait till it in fact happens.

And cows , I know you need something to feel goodabout because the PS3 is so pathetic when it comes to games.

But lets not get all hot and bothered by speculation.

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#40 SergeantSnitch
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and yet, I somehow doubt that the PC version will be on more then one disc. :?Hewkii


and yet, I somehow doubt that the PC version will not install at least several gigs of data on the harddrive in order to run the game. :?
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[QUOTE="Hewkii"]and yet, I somehow doubt that the PC version will be on more then one disc. :?SergeantSnitch


and yet, I somehow doubt that the PC version will not install at least several gigs of data on the harddrive in order to run the game. :?

I don't really see how that helps :?

The data is still on the disc right?

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Dude.

Nothing is confirmed yet.

How about we wait till it in fact happens.

And cows , I know you need something to feel goodabout because the PS3 is so pathetic when it comes to games.

But lets not get all hot and bothered by speculation.

-Ninja_Dog-

haha i love how lems damage control. it is what it is. some of you guys defend microsoft like your life depends on it.. which is pretty sad if you ask me.

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[QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]

Dude.

Nothing is confirmed yet.

How about we wait till it in fact happens.

And cows , I know you need something to feel goodabout because the PS3 is so pathetic when it comes to games.

But lets not get all hot and bothered by speculation.

Ps3Solider

haha i love how lems damage control. it is what it is. some of you guys defent microsoft like your life depends on it.. which is pretty sad if you ask me.

You must of missed my posts.

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ppl are gullllllaaaaable on these boards, i bet if a developer said paper mario isnt possible on the ps3 or 360 they would believe it. I bet all they are doing is creating hype for ps3 then when 360's release come o jeez we were able to fit them on one disc through hard work!
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Multiple disks

Gez, has nobody here played ffVII?

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Multiple disks

Gez, has nobody here played ffVII?

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Well...swapping discs for every other map sounds...:|

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[QUOTE="Ps3Solider"][QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]

Dude.

Nothing is confirmed yet.

How about we wait till it in fact happens.

And cows , I know you need something to feel goodabout because the PS3 is so pathetic when it comes to games.

But lets not get all hot and bothered by speculation.

LTomlinson21

haha i love how lems damage control. it is what it is. some of you guys defent microsoft like your life depends on it.. which is pretty sad if you ask me.

You must of missed my posts.

your not a very bright lemming. i have read most of your comments relating the epic situation. you are amongst the horde of other lemmings that ignore almost everything in the statement except for a few words like "may" .. that to me seems like the biggest form of damage control.

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[QUOTE="LTomlinson21"][QUOTE="Ps3Solider"][QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]

Dude.

Nothing is confirmed yet.

How about we wait till it in fact happens.

And cows , I know you need something to feel goodabout because the PS3 is so pathetic when it comes to games.

But lets not get all hot and bothered by speculation.

Ps3Solider

haha i love how lems damage control. it is what it is. some of you guys defent microsoft like your life depends on it.. which is pretty sad if you ask me.

You must of missed my posts.

your not a very bright lemming. i have read most of your comments relating the epic situation. you are amongst the horde of other lemmings that ignore almost everything in the statement except for a few words like "may" .. that to me seems like the biggest form of damage control.

Sorry, I don't tie myself to a console or company like you may do. I am open to any console. I believe I am not "damage controlling", but simply setting everything straight and proving most wrong.

If everything could be put on one disk, which I am almost sure it will be anyways, than that is best. If somehow the maps end up getting left off, they will "easily offered via the Market Place" as Mark Rein has said.

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#49 dudy80
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[QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]

Dude.

Nothing is confirmed yet.

How about we wait till it in fact happens.

And cows , I know you need something to feel goodabout because the PS3 is so pathetic when it comes to games.

But lets not get all hot and bothered by speculation.

Ps3Solider

haha i love how lems damage control. it is what it is. some of you guys defend microsoft like your life depends on it.. which is pretty sad if you ask me.

Says the guy named ps3soldier...

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#50 DuDisNow
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Epic just screwed themselves over. UT3 will not sell as good now.