Eurogamer changed the reviewer of MGS4???

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#1 mustaf_nur89
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I don't know if this is just in my head, but i could swear i saw the review of MGS4 on Eurogamer by Keza Macdonald earlier today. I just went on the site now, and it states it was reviewed by Oli Welsh.

Could this be linked with people finding out how Keza Macdonald's two different reviews of Zak and Wiki Quest for Barbaros's Treasure, scoring 8/10 on Eurogamer and 9/10 on IGN, both reviewed by him.

Eurogamer Zak and Wiki review by Keza Macdonald

IGN Zak and Wiki review Keza Macdonald

Hmm anyone?

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#2 FragTycoon
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I always saw Oli,

that's why I asked for links to other games he has reviewed, I only saw 3 others under his name.

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#3 Always-Honest
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yeah, been talked about allready..
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I don't know if this is just in my head, but i could swear i saw the review of MGS4 on Eurogamer by Keza Macdonald earlier today. I just went on the site now, and it states it was reviewed by Oli Welsh.

Could this be linked with people finding out how Keza Macdonald's two different reviews of Zak and Wiki Quest for Barbaros's Treasure, scoring 8/10 on Eurogamer and 9/10 on IGN, both reviewed by him.

Eurogamer Zak and Wiki review by Keza Macdonald

IGN Zak and Wiki review Keza Macdonald

Hmm anyone?

mustaf_nur89

Oh yeah, I'm the guy who posted those 2 Zack & Wiki reviews earlier today. As far as I know, Oli Welsh wrote the MGS4 review, I don't recall seeing Keza MacDonald's name in it.

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#5 Tnasty11
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WTF? the same reviewer have it two different scores
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#6 mustaf_nur89
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[QUOTE="mustaf_nur89"]

I don't know if this is just in my head, but i could swear i saw the review of MGS4 on Eurogamer by Keza Macdonald earlier today. I just went on the site now, and it states it was reviewed by Oli Welsh.

Could this be linked with people finding out how Keza Macdonald's two different reviews of Zak and Wiki Quest for Barbaros's Treasure, scoring 8/10 on Eurogamer and 9/10 on IGN, both reviewed by him.

Eurogamer Zak and Wiki review by Keza Macdonald

IGN Zak and Wiki review Keza Macdonald

Hmm anyone?

Floppy_Jim

Oh yeah, I'm the guy who posted those 2 Zack & Wiki reviews earlier today. As far as I know, Oli Welsh wrote the MGS4 review, I don't recall seeing Keza MacDonald's name in it.

Yeah i was looking for your post so i could quote it, but couldnt find it. I guess i was wrong about the changing reviwer part, but WTF is up with two different scores by the same reviewer? Eurogamer attention seeking MGS4 a 8/10 am comfirmed.

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#7 vicmackey39
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the reason the reviews have different scores is befcause they're for 2 different sites with different scoring schemes

stop crying cows. 8 is not a bad score

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#8 Floppy_Jim
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="mustaf_nur89"]

I don't know if this is just in my head, but i could swear i saw the review of MGS4 on Eurogamer by Keza Macdonald earlier today. I just went on the site now, and it states it was reviewed by Oli Welsh.

Could this be linked with people finding out how Keza Macdonald's two different reviews of Zak and Wiki Quest for Barbaros's Treasure, scoring 8/10 on Eurogamer and 9/10 on IGN, both reviewed by him.

Eurogamer Zak and Wiki review by Keza Macdonald

IGN Zak and Wiki review Keza Macdonald

Hmm anyone?

mustaf_nur89

Oh yeah, I'm the guy who posted those 2 Zack & Wiki reviews earlier today. As far as I know, Oli Welsh wrote the MGS4 review, I don't recall seeing Keza MacDonald's name in it.

Yeah i was looking for your post so i could quote it, but couldnt find it. I guess i was wrong about the changing reviwer part, but wtf is up with two different scores by the same reviewer? Eurogamer attention seeking MGS4 8/10 am comfirmed.

I dunno, this is a little weird and it isn't good for Eurogamer's credibility. I haven't actually read their MGS4 review, but apparently they don't even explain why they gave it such a low score.

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[QUOTE="mustaf_nur89"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="mustaf_nur89"]

I don't know if this is just in my head, but i could swear i saw the review of MGS4 on Eurogamer by Keza Macdonald earlier today. I just went on the site now, and it states it was reviewed by Oli Welsh.

Could this be linked with people finding out how Keza Macdonald's two different reviews of Zak and Wiki Quest for Barbaros's Treasure, scoring 8/10 on Eurogamer and 9/10 on IGN, both reviewed by him.

Eurogamer Zak and Wiki review by Keza Macdonald

IGN Zak and Wiki review Keza Macdonald

Hmm anyone?

Floppy_Jim

Oh yeah, I'm the guy who posted those 2 Zack & Wiki reviews earlier today. As far as I know, Oli Welsh wrote the MGS4 review, I don't recall seeing Keza MacDonald's name in it.

Yeah i was looking for your post so i could quote it, but couldnt find it. I guess i was wrong about the changing reviwer part, but wtf is up with two different scores by the same reviewer? Eurogamer attention seeking MGS4 8/10 am comfirmed.

I dunno, this is a little weird and it isn't good for Eurogamer's credibility. I haven't actually read their MGS4 review, but apparently they don't even explain why they gave it such a low score.

an 8 out of 10 is a low score?

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#10 mustaf_nur89
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[QUOTE="mustaf_nur89"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="mustaf_nur89"]

I don't know if this is just in my head, but i could swear i saw the review of MGS4 on Eurogamer by Keza Macdonald earlier today. I just went on the site now, and it states it was reviewed by Oli Welsh.

Could this be linked with people finding out how Keza Macdonald's two different reviews of Zak and Wiki Quest for Barbaros's Treasure, scoring 8/10 on Eurogamer and 9/10 on IGN, both reviewed by him.

Eurogamer Zak and Wiki review by Keza Macdonald

IGN Zak and Wiki review Keza Macdonald

Hmm anyone?

Floppy_Jim

Oh yeah, I'm the guy who posted those 2 Zack & Wiki reviews earlier today. As far as I know, Oli Welsh wrote the MGS4 review, I don't recall seeing Keza MacDonald's name in it.

Yeah i was looking for your post so i could quote it, but couldnt find it. I guess i was wrong about the changing reviwer part, but wtf is up with two different scores by the same reviewer? Eurogamer attention seeking MGS4 8/10 am comfirmed.

I dunno, this is a little weird and it isn't good for Eurogamer's credibility. I haven't actually read their MGS4 review, but apparently they don't even explain why they gave it such a low score.

They don't in any way state why they docked 2 points from the score, and the way the guy is talking about the game in some areas makes him look like a fanboy, you should really read it to see.

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#11 mustaf_nur89
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="mustaf_nur89"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="mustaf_nur89"]

I don't know if this is just in my head, but i could swear i saw the review of MGS4 on Eurogamer by Keza Macdonald earlier today. I just went on the site now, and it states it was reviewed by Oli Welsh.

Could this be linked with people finding out how Keza Macdonald's two different reviews of Zak and Wiki Quest for Barbaros's Treasure, scoring 8/10 on Eurogamer and 9/10 on IGN, both reviewed by him.

Eurogamer Zak and Wiki review by Keza Macdonald

IGN Zak and Wiki review Keza Macdonald

Hmm anyone?

ogvampire

Oh yeah, I'm the guy who posted those 2 Zack & Wiki reviews earlier today. As far as I know, Oli Welsh wrote the MGS4 review, I don't recall seeing Keza MacDonald's name in it.

Yeah i was looking for your post so i could quote it, but couldnt find it. I guess i was wrong about the changing reviwer part, but wtf is up with two different scores by the same reviewer? Eurogamer attention seeking MGS4 8/10 am comfirmed.

I dunno, this is a little weird and it isn't good for Eurogamer's credibility. I haven't actually read their MGS4 review, but apparently they don't even explain why they gave it such a low score.

an 8 out of 10 is a low score?

THIS IS MGS4!!!!!!11111

Lol but seriously its understandable if they show why it got 8/10, and not 10/10 that its been recieving at other sites.

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And the Konami cover up begins.

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#13 ogvampire
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IGN Zak and Wiki review Keza Macdonald

Hmm anyone?

mustaf_nur89

Oh yeah, I'm the guy who posted those 2 Zack & Wiki reviews earlier today. As far as I know, Oli Welsh wrote the MGS4 review, I don't recall seeing Keza MacDonald's name in it.

Yeah i was looking for your post so i could quote it, but couldnt find it. I guess i was wrong about the changing reviwer part, but wtf is up with two different scores by the same reviewer? Eurogamer attention seeking MGS4 8/10 am comfirmed.

I dunno, this is a little weird and it isn't good for Eurogamer's credibility. I haven't actually read their MGS4 review, but apparently they don't even explain why they gave it such a low score.

an 8 out of 10 is a low score?

THIS IS MGS4!!!!!!11111

Lol but seriously its understandable if they show why it got 8/10, and not 10/10that its been recieving at other sites.

those 10/10's were from "official playstation magazines"

so i wouldnt exactly trust them, just like people dont trust reviews from Nintendo power for wii games and oxm for 360 games

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#14 Floppy_Jim
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="mustaf_nur89"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="mustaf_nur89"]

I don't know if this is just in my head, but i could swear i saw the review of MGS4 on Eurogamer by Keza Macdonald earlier today. I just went on the site now, and it states it was reviewed by Oli Welsh.

Could this be linked with people finding out how Keza Macdonald's two different reviews of Zak and Wiki Quest for Barbaros's Treasure, scoring 8/10 on Eurogamer and 9/10 on IGN, both reviewed by him.

Eurogamer Zak and Wiki review by Keza Macdonald

IGN Zak and Wiki review Keza Macdonald

Hmm anyone?

mustaf_nur89

Oh yeah, I'm the guy who posted those 2 Zack & Wiki reviews earlier today. As far as I know, Oli Welsh wrote the MGS4 review, I don't recall seeing Keza MacDonald's name in it.

Yeah i was looking for your post so i could quote it, but couldnt find it. I guess i was wrong about the changing reviwer part, but wtf is up with two different scores by the same reviewer? Eurogamer attention seeking MGS4 8/10 am comfirmed.

I dunno, this is a little weird and it isn't good for Eurogamer's credibility. I haven't actually read their MGS4 review, but apparently they don't even explain why they gave it such a low score.

They don't in any way state why they docked 2 points from the score, and the way the guy is talking about the game in some areas makes him look like a fanboy, you should really read it to see.

I've just read it and the only real criticism they have is that the final cutscene is "deeply boring". You're right, that really isn't a good enough reason to take off 2 points from the score. Should be a 9 at least.

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It can't be the same reviewer , the EG review stated that whoever reviewed it wasn't a fan of the series , and was very skeptical about it which absoloutly contradicts with the ign uk review .
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not every site is going to give MGS4 above a 9, just look at all the great games that came out, all have at leats one 8
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I don't know if this is just in my head, but i could swear i saw the review of MGS4 on Eurogamer by Keza Macdonald earlier today. I just went on the site now, and it states it was reviewed by Oli Welsh.

Could this be linked with people finding out how Keza Macdonald's two different reviews of Zak and Wiki Quest for Barbaros's Treasure, scoring 8/10 on Eurogamer and 9/10 on IGN, both reviewed by him.

Eurogamer Zak and Wiki review by Keza Macdonald

IGN Zak and Wiki review Keza Macdonald

Hmm anyone?

mustaf_nur89

you are definitely right. I was up pretty early this morning and saw it too

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It can't be the same reviewer , the EG review stated that whoever reviewed it wasn't a fan of the series , and was very skeptical about it which absoloutly contradicts with the ign uk review .proeye

Perhaps EG ordered him to be a critic? :|

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[QUOTE="mustaf_nur89"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="mustaf_nur89"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="mustaf_nur89"]

I don't know if this is just in my head, but i could swear i saw the review of MGS4 on Eurogamer by Keza Macdonald earlier today. I just went on the site now, and it states it was reviewed by Oli Welsh.

Could this be linked with people finding out how Keza Macdonald's two different reviews of Zak and Wiki Quest for Barbaros's Treasure, scoring 8/10 on Eurogamer and 9/10 on IGN, both reviewed by him.

Eurogamer Zak and Wiki review by Keza Macdonald

IGN Zak and Wiki review Keza Macdonald

Hmm anyone?

Floppy_Jim

Oh yeah, I'm the guy who posted those 2 Zack & Wiki reviews earlier today. As far as I know, Oli Welsh wrote the MGS4 review, I don't recall seeing Keza MacDonald's name in it.

Yeah i was looking for your post so i could quote it, but couldnt find it. I guess i was wrong about the changing reviwer part, but wtf is up with two different scores by the same reviewer? Eurogamer attention seeking MGS4 8/10 am comfirmed.

I dunno, this is a little weird and it isn't good for Eurogamer's credibility. I haven't actually read their MGS4 review, but apparently they don't even explain why they gave it such a low score.

They don't in any way state why they docked 2 points from the score, and the way the guy is talking about the game in some areas makes him look like a fanboy, you should really read it to see.

I've just read it and the only real criticism they have is that the final cutscene is "deeply boring". You're right, that really isn't a good enough reason to take off 2 points from the score. Should be a 9 at least.

Actually, he found the whole story (which takes up about 50% of the game) a complete mess. The AI of the enemies is weak and the gameplay mechanics are still based on the mechanics of the first Metal Gear Solid, which starts to feel archaic. These are just some problems that I got out of it.

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#21 EuroMafia
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What is the point of this thread? I dunno if he was the reviewer or not, so I can't help you.
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#22 vicmackey39
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It's not a low score

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dude edit your post

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#23 EuroMafia
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THIS IS MGS4!!!!!!11111

Lol but seriously its understandable if they show why it got 8/10, and not 10/10 that its been recieving at other sites.

mustaf_nur89
Maybe it's 8.0 but other over rate, reviews aren't based on what fanboys want or believe. Some sites are stricter than others. I for one think IGN hands out AAA's like hotcakes.
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#24 Pietrooper
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[QUOTE="mustaf_nur89"]

THIS IS MGS4!!!!!!11111

Lol but seriously its understandable if they show why it got 8/10, and not 10/10 that its been recieving at other sites.

EuroMafia

Maybe it's 8.0 but other over rate, reviews aren't based on what fanboys want or believe. Some sites are stricter than others. I for one think IGN hands out AAA's like hotcakes.

Doesn't change that the score they've given is still pretty high in contrast to other games, and that don't forget AAA means different things on different sites.

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#25 EuroMafia
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[QUOTE="EuroMafia"][QUOTE="mustaf_nur89"]

THIS IS MGS4!!!!!!11111

Lol but seriously its understandable if they show why it got 8/10, and not 10/10 that its been recieving at other sites.

Pietrooper

Maybe it's 8.0 but other over rate, reviews aren't based on what fanboys want or believe. Some sites are stricter than others. I for one think IGN hands out AAA's like hotcakes.

Doesn't change that the score they've given is still pretty high in contrast to other games, and that don't forget AAA means different things on different sites.

Yeah, but with many games though.

IGN gives out to many AAA games, makes it hard to differenciate great games from really great games, so they had to push AAA to its limit and give 9.9 to make sure we know it's really great. IMO anyway.