Europe unites against Sony.

Recently Europe finaly cracked, after years of poor treatment by all the big companies ever involved in gaming its has finaly decided to stand up for itself.

As we speak petitions are being signed to be sent of to the Eu equality commision, 10 Downing Street (Prime minister of the United Kingdom's residence), Trading standards and most of the large goverment bodies of Europe. So with lthe major gaming websites of the world recieving E-mails about the petition and people attempting to get newspapers to join in aswell , will Sony stand up and take notice after years of ignorance? Will it dent sales in Sony's largest market?

As a European myself (Northern Ireland resident) I have to say I'm glad we've finaly decided to stop taking such poor treatment, the catalyst for this shift in European opinion? Playstation Home.

Before I go into my list of things Europe Doesn't have that the US and Japan have, i'm going to post a link to the official Sony forums for the english speaking regions of Europe.

http://community.eu.playstation.com/playstationeu/board/message?board.id=b_EN_PS3_Home&thread.id=88098&view=by_date_ascending&page=1

I will start with the catalyst behind it all, Playstation Home, a social network created in Cambridge in England, part of Europe. It's a service thats been out only a week yet the American version has far more content than its European conterpart for example.

Europe has no:

- Red bull island - Game spaces (No Uncharted or Far Cry for us) - Jukeboxes - Flying saucer game - Christmas tree or snow - Its has constant errors far more prevelant than the American service -It has a far small Home Square of completly inferior design.

Moving on I turn to games or as Europe calls them , Delays.

- A delay on Little Big Planet , a game made in England - Rock band 4 months later than x-box - 7 months for Pain from release on the American store - 3 months ago America got a high Velocity bowling update, Europe still awaits said update - Street fighter Turbo 2 delyaed on PS3 in Europe only (It will see a worldwide 360 release) - no Ecnohcrome trophies yet for Europe - the list could go on.

Next the Playstation Store

-Europe still awaits the ability to sign up for Quore

-Wheres the European video store , Nowhere thats where

- Has less themes, games and just about any possible form of content avilable in smaller quantaties than the other stores.

- Europe still hasn't got the PSN cards

Wheres the European blog, America has one, Japan has one , why doesn't Europe?

There are even swathes of Europe that can acces the Playstation network because Sony doesn't think there worth of playing online despite paying a higher price for the console, games and accesories over are Us and Japanese counterparts.

Is it some sort of lack of funding that SCEE gets? is it just bias? or lazyness?

I mean Nintendo and microsoft are little better, 7 months for Super Smash Bros Brawl, Eruope still hasn't got Chronos Tiger for the snes (Spelling) and XBL isnt avalable in sections of Europe.

Recently Europe finaly cracked, after years of poor treatment by all the big companies ever involved in gaming its has finaly decided to stand up for itself.

As we speak petitions are being signed to be sent of to the Eu equality commision, 10 Downing Street (Prime minister of the United Kingdom's residence), Trading standards and most of the large goverment bodies of Europe. So with lthe major gaming websites of the world recieving E-mails about the petition and people attempting to get newspapers to join in aswell , will Sony stand up and take notice after years of ignorance? Will it dent sales in Sony's largest market?

As a European myself (Northern Ireland resident) I have to say I'm glad we've finaly decided to stop taking such poor treatment, the catalyst for this shift in European opinion? Playstation Home.

Before I go into my list of things Europe Doesn't have that the US and Japan have, i'm going to post a link to the official Sony forums for the english speaking regions of Europe.

http://community.eu.playstation.com/playstationeu/board/message?board.id=b_EN_PS3_Home&thread.id=88098&view=by_date_ascending&page=1

Il post an edit in a few minutes of a list of what Europe wants but doesn't have in relation to other terittories just want to get the world out with this initial post.

muff07

LOL...all of this over Home?

Recently Europe finaly cracked, after years of poor treatment by all the big companies ever involved in gaming its has finaly decided to stand up for itself.

As we speak petitions are being signed to be sent of to the Eu equality commision, 10 Downing Street (Prime minister of the United Kingdom's residence), Trading standards and most of the large goverment bodies of Europe. So with lthe major gaming websites of the world recieving E-mails about the petition and people attempting to get newspapers to join in aswell , will Sony stand up and take notice after years of ignorance? Will it dent sales in Sony's largest market?

As a European myself (Northern Ireland resident) I have to say I'm glad we've finaly decided to stop taking such poor treatment, the catalyst for this shift in European opinion? Playstation Home.

Before I go into my list of things Europe Doesn't have that the US and Japan have, i'm going to post a link to the official Sony forums for the english speaking regions of Europe.

http://community.eu.playstation.com/playstationeu/board/message?board.id=b_EN_PS3_Home&thread.id=88098&view=by_date_ascending&page=1

Il post an edit in a few minutes of a list of what Europe wants but doesn't have in relation to other terittories just want to get the world out with this initial post.

muff07

Edit: if this is about JUST Playstation Home then its stupid since your not forced to Download it

when i first read this i though it was about games getting released a week or 2 late in europe

LOL...all of this over Home?

Pimpshigity21

[QUOTE="muff07"]

Recently Europe finaly cracked, after years of poor treatment by all the big companies ever involved in gaming its has finaly decided to stand up for itself.

As we speak petitions are being signed to be sent of to the Eu equality commision, 10 Downing Street (Prime minister of the United Kingdom's residence), Trading standards and most of the large goverment bodies of Europe. So with lthe major gaming websites of the world recieving E-mails about the petition and people attempting to get newspapers to join in aswell , will Sony stand up and take notice after years of ignorance? Will it dent sales in Sony's largest market?

As a European myself (Northern Ireland resident) I have to say I'm glad we've finaly decided to stop taking such poor treatment, the catalyst for this shift in European opinion? Playstation Home.

Before I go into my list of things Europe Doesn't have that the US and Japan have, i'm going to post a link to the official Sony forums for the english speaking regions of Europe.

http://community.eu.playstation.com/playstationeu/board/message?board.id=b_EN_PS3_Home&thread.id=88098&view=by_date_ascending&page=1

Il post an edit in a few minutes of a list of what Europe wants but doesn't have in relation to other terittories just want to get the world out with this initial post.

Pimpshigity21

LOL...all of this over Home?

for some reason that made me lol

[QUOTE="muff07"]

Recently Europe finaly cracked, after years of poor treatment by all the big companies ever involved in gaming its has finaly decided to stand up for itself.

As we speak petitions are being signed to be sent of to the Eu equality commision, 10 Downing Street (Prime minister of the United Kingdom's residence), Trading standards and most of the large goverment bodies of Europe. So with lthe major gaming websites of the world recieving E-mails about the petition and people attempting to get newspapers to join in aswell , will Sony stand up and take notice after years of ignorance? Will it dent sales in Sony's largest market?

As a European myself (Northern Ireland resident) I have to say I'm glad we've finaly decided to stop taking such poor treatment, the catalyst for this shift in European opinion? Playstation Home.

Before I go into my list of things Europe Doesn't have that the US and Japan have, i'm going to post a link to the official Sony forums for the english speaking regions of Europe.

http://community.eu.playstation.com/playstationeu/board/message?board.id=b_EN_PS3_Home&thread.id=88098&view=by_date_ascending&page=1

Il post an edit in a few minutes of a list of what Europe wants but doesn't have in relation to other terittories just want to get the world out with this initial post.

micky4889

Edit: if this is about JUST Playstation Home then its stupid since your not forced to Download it

when i first read this i though it was about games getting released a week or 2 late in europe

actually microsoft hasn't treated europe all that bad, they definatly are no Sega but still...

buh buh buh Home isn't even that great :cry: :roll:expanded

[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="muff07"]

Recently Europe finaly cracked, after years of poor treatment by all the big companies ever involved in gaming its has finaly decided to stand up for itself.

As we speak petitions are being signed to be sent of to the Eu equality commision, 10 Downing Street (Prime minister of the United Kingdom's residence), Trading standards and most of the large goverment bodies of Europe. So with lthe major gaming websites of the world recieving E-mails about the petition and people attempting to get newspapers to join in aswell , will Sony stand up and take notice after years of ignorance? Will it dent sales in Sony's largest market?

As a European myself (Northern Ireland resident) I have to say I'm glad we've finaly decided to stop taking such poor treatment, the catalyst for this shift in European opinion? Playstation Home.

Before I go into my list of things Europe Doesn't have that the US and Japan have, i'm going to post a link to the official Sony forums for the english speaking regions of Europe.

http://community.eu.playstation.com/playstationeu/board/message?board.id=b_EN_PS3_Home&thread.id=88098&view=by_date_ascending&page=1

Il post an edit in a few minutes of a list of what Europe wants but doesn't have in relation to other terittories just want to get the world out with this initial post.

st1ka

Edit: if this is about JUST Playstation Home then its stupid since your not forced to Download it

when i first read this i though it was about games getting released a week or 2 late in europe

actually microsoft hasn't treated europe all that bad, they definatly are no Sega but still...

Live was €70 to buy here at one stage, crappy video store compared to the US :?

but ya Microsoft isn't as bad as the other 2

Nintendo is the worst imo i don't own a wii myself but i remember a friend having to wait 5 months to get a EU release of SSBB :evil:

[QUOTE="expanded"]buh buh buh Home isn't even that great :cry: :roll:Dreams-Visions

Live was €70 to buy here at one stage, crappy video store compared to the US :?

but ya Microsoft isn't as bad as the other 2

Nintendo is the worst imo i don't own a wii myself but i remember a friend having to wait 5 months to get a EU release of SSBB :evil:

micky4889

i didn't say microsoft treated us fairly, they clearly don't, but at least the price difference between regions is better, a PS3 costs 399 euros and 399 dollars, even though the euro is worht more then the dollar

399 euros = 553 dollars

a Pro 360 costs 300 dollars and 220 euros.

220 euros = dollars

also, microsot pulbished games actually get a worldwide launch, they only have a 2-3 days difference, much better then sony or nintendo's pollicy (specially the latter)

Indeed, SCEE sucks unbelievable amounts. For some reason they even deemed it necessary to replace the "Demos" categories in the store with "Family Games". Why would they do that? And it goes on and on. I have no idea what the hell they're thinking most of the time. Sometimes I feel like they're doing it on purpose.InsaneBasura

Well then, there is something wrong with SCEE, but good for you Europeans!! Stick it to em!

I never understood how Europeans seem to bow down to $ony, when they just get treated so bad. sony rips them off so bad compared to every other region. Why do they still buy their machine?T-Aldous

No more bowing down to Sony by Europeans from what I've read lately.

[QUOTE="T-Aldous"]I never understood how Europeans seem to bow down to $ony, when they just get treated so bad. sony rips them off so bad compared to every other region. Why do they still buy their machine?Pimpshigity21

No more bowing down to Sony by Europeans from what I've read lately.

I think you will find Europeans are just asking for equality.

X-box live isn't avaliable in the majority of western European states, Scotland has it however.muff07

No offence but this is probably the saddest petition I've ever seen. Even more sad than the DMC4 petition made by Sony fanboys. Petition world leaders over a few game delays and content in a virtual world?. This is 100% pathetic and just further adds fuel to the fire that gamers are out of touch with reality and what's actually important in the world. Petition your leaders over poverty, war, famine. Not some piece of crap virtual chat room wannabe that most sane people don't give a damn about.

I never understood how Europeans seem to bow down to $ony, when they just get treated so bad. sony rips them off so bad compared to every other region. Why do they still buy their machine?T-Aldous

The EU is the largest PC gaming market there is. The Wii is 1st in the EU. As far as I remember, the 360 is 2nd. I never understood where this stereotype about Europeans worshipping Sony came from.

[QUOTE="T-Aldous"]I never understood how Europeans seem to bow down to $ony, when they just get treated so bad. sony rips them off so bad compared to every other region. Why do they still buy their machine?Hexagon_777

The EU is the largest PC gaming market there is. The Wii is 1st in the EU. As far as I remember, the 360 is 2nd. I never understood where this stereotype about Europeans worshipping Sony came from.

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="T-Aldous"]I never understood how Europeans seem to bow down to $ony, when they just get treated so bad. sony rips them off so bad compared to every other region. Why do they still buy their machine?micky4889

The EU is the largest PC gaming market there is. The Wii is 1st in the EU. As far as I remember, the 360 is 2nd. I never understood where this stereotype about Europeans worshipping Sony came from.

holy crap :o i had no idea

[QUOTE="T-Aldous"]I never understood how Europeans seem to bow down to $ony, when they just get treated so bad. sony rips them off so bad compared to every other region. Why do they still buy their machine?Hexagon_777

The EU is the largest PC gaming market there is. The Wii is 1st in the EU. As far as I remember, the 360 is 2nd. I never understood where this stereotype about Europeans worshipping Sony came from.

You say Europeans are asking for equality?, how long have you been a gamer?. Nintendo have treated Europe 100 times worse than Sony ever could all through the NES, SNES, N64 days it was nothing but delays, crappy pal optimised ports with massive borders, games like Super Mario RGP never even came to Europe. You make this petion sound important, as if people are standing up for a great injustice, truth is it's lame beyond words, nothing more needs to be said about it. There are valid reasons why Europeans have to wait for games, I'm not going to even bother listing them as this petition deserves no more of my time.

PS3 is actually ahead of 360 In Europe acording to a Eurogamer article in August (Think the date is correct).

In other regions which includes India etc with high amounts of Piratism however pushes the 360 into the lead in terms of total sales outside USA and Japan.

Back on Topic But about Europe getting shafted I don't want this turning into sales.

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="T-Aldous"]I never understood how Europeans seem to bow down to $ony, when they just get treated so bad. sony rips them off so bad compared to every other region. Why do they still buy their machine?micky4889

The EU is the largest PC gaming market there is. The Wii is 1st in the EU. As far as I remember, the 360 is 2nd. I never understood where this stereotype about Europeans worshipping Sony came from.

There was more PS2s sold in Europe then there were in japan or the US last gen i think thats why

The amount of PS2s sold in the EU was slightly larger than the amount of PS2s sold in the US. :?

I've been a gamer since 1993 I'm well aware of what Nintendo has done to Europe Chronos Trigger (Spelling) never being released in Europe. What many consider the best game ever I havn't had the opertunity to play.

I mearly posted it because the Playstation community is making a stand.

Recently Europe finaly cracked, after years of poor treatment by all the big companies ever involved in gaming its has finaly decided to stand up for itself.

As we speak petitions are being signed to be sent of to the Eu equality commision, 10 Downing Street (Prime minister of the United Kingdom's residence), Trading standards and most of the large goverment bodies of Europe. So with lthe major gaming websites of the world recieving E-mails about the petition and people attempting to get newspapers to join in aswell , will Sony stand up and take notice after years of ignorance? Will it dent sales in Sony's largest market?

As a European myself (Northern Ireland resident) I have to say I'm glad we've finaly decided to stop taking such poor treatment, the catalyst for this shift in European opinion? Playstation Home.

Before I go into my list of things Europe Doesn't have that the US and Japan have, i'm going to post a link to the official Sony forums for the english speaking regions of Europe.

http://community.eu.playstation.com/playstationeu/board/message?board.id=b_EN_PS3_Home&thread.id=88098&view=by_date_ascending&page=1

I will start with the catalyst behind it all, Playstation Home, a social network created in Cambridge in England, part of Europe. It's a service thats been out only a week yet the American version has far more content than its European conterpart for example.

Europe has no:

- Red bull island - Game spaces (No Uncharted or Far Cry for us) - Jukeboxes - Flying saucer game - Christmas tree or snow - Its has constant errors far more prevelant than the American service -It has a far small Home Square of completly inferior design.

Moving on I turn to games or as Europe calls them , Delays.

- A delay on Little Big Planet , a game made in England - Rock band 4 months later than x-box - 7 months for Pain from release on the American store - 3 months ago America got a high Velocity bowling update, Europe still awaits said update - Street fighter Turbo 2 delyaed on PS3 in Europe only (It will see a worldwide 360 release) - no Ecnohcrome trophies yet for Europe - the list could go on.

Next the Playstation Store

-Europe still awaits the ability to sign up for Quore

-Wheres the European video store , Nowhere thats where

- Has less themes, games and just about any possible form of content avilable in smaller quantaties than the other stores.

- Europe still hasn't got the PSN cards

Wheres the European blog, America has one, Japan has one , why doesn't Europe?

There are even swathes of Europe that can acces the Playstation network because Sony doesn't think there worth of playing online despite paying a higher price for the console, games and accesories over are Us and Japanese counterparts.

Is it some sort of lack of funding that SCEE gets? is it just bias? or lazyness?

I mean Nintendo and microsoft are little better, 7 months for Super Smash Bros Brawl, Eruope still hasn't got Chronos Tiger for the snes (Spelling) and XBL isnt avalable in sections of Europe.

muff07

[QUOTE="muff07"]

Recently Europe finaly cracked, after years of poor treatment by all the big companies ever involved in gaming its has finaly decided to stand up for itself.

As we speak petitions are being signed to be sent of to the Eu equality commision, 10 Downing Street (Prime minister of the United Kingdom's residence), Trading standards and most of the large goverment bodies of Europe. So with lthe major gaming websites of the world recieving E-mails about the petition and people attempting to get newspapers to join in aswell , will Sony stand up and take notice after years of ignorance? Will it dent sales in Sony's largest market?

As a European myself (Northern Ireland resident) I have to say I'm glad we've finaly decided to stop taking such poor treatment, the catalyst for this shift in European opinion? Playstation Home.

Before I go into my list of things Europe Doesn't have that the US and Japan have, i'm going to post a link to the official Sony forums for the english speaking regions of Europe.

http://community.eu.playstation.com/playstationeu/board/message?board.id=b_EN_PS3_Home&thread.id=88098&view=by_date_ascending&page=1

I will start with the catalyst behind it all, Playstation Home, a social network created in Cambridge in England, part of Europe. It's a service thats been out only a week yet the American version has far more content than its European conterpart for example.

Europe has no:

- Red bull island - Game spaces (No Uncharted or Far Cry for us) - Jukeboxes - Flying saucer game - Christmas tree or snow - Its has constant errors far more prevelant than the American service -It has a far small Home Square of completly inferior design.

Moving on I turn to games or as Europe calls them , Delays.

- A delay on Little Big Planet , a game made in England - Rock band 4 months later than x-box - 7 months for Pain from release on the American store - 3 months ago America got a high Velocity bowling update, Europe still awaits said update - Street fighter Turbo 2 delyaed on PS3 in Europe only (It will see a worldwide 360 release) - no Ecnohcrome trophies yet for Europe - the list could go on.

Next the Playstation Store

-Europe still awaits the ability to sign up for Quore

-Wheres the European video store , Nowhere thats where

- Has less themes, games and just about any possible form of content avilable in smaller quantaties than the other stores.

- Europe still hasn't got the PSN cards

Wheres the European blog, America has one, Japan has one , why doesn't Europe?

There are even swathes of Europe that can acces the Playstation network because Sony doesn't think there worth of playing online despite paying a higher price for the console, games and accesories over are Us and Japanese counterparts.

Is it some sort of lack of funding that SCEE gets? is it just bias? or lazyness?

I mean Nintendo and microsoft are little better, 7 months for Super Smash Bros Brawl, Eruope still hasn't got Chronos Tiger for the snes (Spelling) and XBL isnt avalable in sections of Europe.

fatzebra

[QUOTE="fatzebra"][QUOTE="muff07"]

Recently Europe finaly cracked, after years of poor treatment by all the big companies ever involved in gaming its has finaly decided to stand up for itself.

As we speak petitions are being signed to be sent of to the Eu equality commision, 10 Downing Street (Prime minister of the United Kingdom's residence), Trading standards and most of the large goverment bodies of Europe. So with lthe major gaming websites of the world recieving E-mails about the petition and people attempting to get newspapers to join in aswell , will Sony stand up and take notice after years of ignorance? Will it dent sales in Sony's largest market?

As a European myself (Northern Ireland resident) I have to say I'm glad we've finaly decided to stop taking such poor treatment, the catalyst for this shift in European opinion? Playstation Home.

Before I go into my list of things Europe Doesn't have that the US and Japan have, i'm going to post a link to the official Sony forums for the english speaking regions of Europe.

http://community.eu.playstation.com/playstationeu/board/message?board.id=b_EN_PS3_Home&thread.id=88098&view=by_date_ascending&page=1

I will start with the catalyst behind it all, Playstation Home, a social network created in Cambridge in England, part of Europe. It's a service thats been out only a week yet the American version has far more content than its European conterpart for example.

Europe has no:

- Red bull island - Game spaces (No Uncharted or Far Cry for us) - Jukeboxes - Flying saucer game - Christmas tree or snow - Its has constant errors far more prevelant than the American service -It has a far small Home Square of completly inferior design.

Moving on I turn to games or as Europe calls them , Delays.

- A delay on Little Big Planet , a game made in England - Rock band 4 months later than x-box - 7 months for Pain from release on the American store - 3 months ago America got a high Velocity bowling update, Europe still awaits said update - Street fighter Turbo 2 delyaed on PS3 in Europe only (It will see a worldwide 360 release) - no Ecnohcrome trophies yet for Europe - the list could go on.

Next the Playstation Store

-Europe still awaits the ability to sign up for Quore

-Wheres the European video store , Nowhere thats where

- Has less themes, games and just about any possible form of content avilable in smaller quantaties than the other stores.

- Europe still hasn't got the PSN cards

Wheres the European blog, America has one, Japan has one , why doesn't Europe?

There are even swathes of Europe that can acces the Playstation network because Sony doesn't think there worth of playing online despite paying a higher price for the console, games and accesories over are Us and Japanese counterparts.

Is it some sort of lack of funding that SCEE gets? is it just bias? or lazyness?

I mean Nintendo and microsoft are little better, 7 months for Super Smash Bros Brawl, Eruope still hasn't got Chronos Tiger for the snes (Spelling) and XBL isnt avalable in sections of Europe.

skelebull3000

[QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]

[QUOTE="T-Aldous"]I never understood how Europeans seem to bow down to $ony, when they just get treated so bad. sony rips them off so bad compared to every other region. Why do they still buy their machine?muff07

No more bowing down to Sony by Europeans from what I've read lately.

I think you will find Europeans are just asking for equality.

Exactly. Europeans should be allowed to sit in the same section of the bus as the Japanese and North Americans.

[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

The EU is the largest PC gaming market there is. The Wii is 1st in the EU. As far as I remember, the 360 is 2nd. I never understood where this stereotype about Europeans worshipping Sony came from.

Hexagon_777

There was more PS2s sold in Europe then there were in japan or the US last gen i think thats why

The amount of PS2s sold in the EU was slightly larger than the amount of PS2s sold in the US. :?

Do you know what a joke is?

Yes, it's something funny.
Don't mess with me! :P

The PlayStation 3 is region free.

I do not see a problem.