Even more Sony Lay-offs

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#1 Eltroz
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The sony division called Sony Computer Entertainment America laid of employees today it seems. Seems low PS3 and PSP sales are really hurting them. They said it was for resructuring but what else are they going to say.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/industry/lay+offs-hit-scea-hq-today-266292.php here is link.

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#2 diggyzoom
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Cool. They are working toward a price drop.

 

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#3 hotdaisy18
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And this effects us gamers how?
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#4 BenTheJamin
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PS3 isnt the only thing Sony makes, if sony is doing bad its not because the PS3 isnt selling, its because its not doing well in other sectors.
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PS3 isnt the only thing Sony makes, if sony is doing bad its not because the PS3 isnt selling, its because its not doing well in other sectors.BenTheJamin

Well its game division is the only one who is losing so much money, its other businesses is having to make that money up.

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#6 Eltroz
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Cool. They are working toward a price drop.

 

diggyzoom
So you think they fired 80-100 people for a price drop?
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"In an effort to accurately align the company to meet the changing needs of our consumers and of our industry, Sony Computer Entertainment America has found it necessary to analyze our current business and to restructure the company as necessary to continue our standing as the market leader,"SCEA spokesman Dave Karraker told Kotaku this evening,

I guess They lost the Memo in among the pink slips and reports of massive losses that they are in last place lol

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And this effects us gamers how?hotdaisy18
Because it means SCEA is up s*** creek without a paddle?
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[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]And this effects us gamers how?pundog
Because it means SCEA is up s*** creek without a paddle?

try answering the question...master debater....

if some 1st party developers got laid off, then it might effect the developing of 1st party games.

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[QUOTE="diggyzoom"]

Cool. They are working toward a price drop.

 

Eltroz

So you think they fired 80-100 people for a price drop?

They did it to save money in their gaming division. This is a part of the solution to get the price of the ps3 down no doubt. The other part is lowering the cost of making a ps3. 

 

 

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#11 pundog
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[QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]And this effects us gamers how?Solid-CELL

Because it means SCEA is up s*** creek without a paddle?

try answering the question...master debater....

if some 1st party developers got laid off, then it might effect the developing of 1st party games.

The question mark was one of those little sarcastic things to try and say "you really asked that question?" as in, its pretty obvious why its bad for gamers when a gaming company has to lay off employees to save money. Besides, it doesn't actually say who was laid off.
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It was a Surprise layoff too. It says Middle management in SCEA didnt even know it was gonna happen that same morning. the firings were sprung on even them. Straight from the CEO desk the axe fell on all the people making pennies while the top dogs get thier 10 million dollar bonuses etc
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And this effects us gamers how?hotdaisy18

Typical cow response. When they're losing the war like they are now, they just pretend its not going on. That way they can't see a defeat. They can't see lost ground.

What's the shakspear quote they seem to be applying? "Ignorance is the greater part of losing" perhaps?

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[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]And this effects us gamers how?Acemaster27

Typical cow response. When they're losing the war like they are now, they just pretend its not going on. That way they can't see a defeat. They can't see lost ground.

What's the shakspear quote they seem to be applying? "Ignorance is the greater part of losing" perhaps?

LOL...talk about grasping at staws, MS has cut jobs too as well as EA(http://kotaku.com/gaming/ea/more-on-ea's-layoffs-152469.php).  are they gonna fail too??  Whats typical is fanboys reading so much into the normal buisness moves in the buisness world.  Sony has a full generation of data to determine what works and what doesnt with their branches and where they can save money.  All buisness do this, its only the SW fanboys who read reshuffle and assume, sinking ship.  Of the thousands of jobs Sony provides you really believe a few hundred is a big deal. 

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[QUOTE="Acemaster27"]

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]And this effects us gamers how?Javy03

Typical cow response. When they're losing the war like they are now, they just pretend its not going on. That way they can't see a defeat. They can't see lost ground.

What's the shakspear quote they seem to be applying? "Ignorance is the greater part of losing" perhaps?

LOL...talk about grasping at staws, MS has cut jobs too as well as EA(http://kotaku.com/gaming/ea/more-on-ea's-layoffs-152469.php).  are they gonna fail too??  Whats typical is fanboys reading so much into the normal buisness moves in the buisness world.  Sony has a full generation of data to determine what works and what doesnt with their branches and where they can save money.  All buisness do this, its only the SW fanboys who read reshuffle and assume, sinking ship.  Of the thousands of jobs Sony provides you really believe a few hundred is a big deal. 

Its the way Sony laid people off though. If you're resizing/reshuffling your business you generally give people a warning and at first offer severance packages to people who volunteer to be laid off, giving them fair warning to find another job. The way Sony did it (not even informing middle management and asking people to either have their manager clean up their stuff or to set up an appointment to come in after operating hours) just reeks of Sony cutting jobs to quickly cut losses, not because they want to reshuffle their division.
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#16 subrosian
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And this effects us gamers how?hotdaisy18


Directly it doesn't affect gamers - there is correlation between it and Sony doing badly. Sony doing badly *hurts* gamers, employee layoffs are simply another consequence of a larger root problem. As far as a performance indicator goes, having to layoff employees means your company has failed to cut costs, or grow the company, and was left with little other choice.

A second layoff is a warning sign of worse things to come for Sony... remember, companies don't consider dumping employees to be their best option for cutting costs - so it points to a deeper underlying problem.
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#17 Acemaster27
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[QUOTE="Acemaster27"]

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]And this effects us gamers how?Javy03

Typical cow response. When they're losing the war like they are now, they just pretend its not going on. That way they can't see a defeat. They can't see lost ground.

What's the shakspear quote they seem to be applying? "Ignorance is the greater part of losing" perhaps?

LOL...talk about grasping at staws, MS has cut jobs too as well as EA(http://kotaku.com/gaming/ea/more-on-ea's-layoffs-152469.php). are they gonna fail too?? Whats typical is fanboys reading so much into the normal buisness moves in the buisness world. Sony has a full generation of data to determine what works and what doesnt with their branches and where they can save money. All buisness do this, its only the SW fanboys who read reshuffle and assume, sinking ship. Of the thousands of jobs Sony provides you really believe a few hundred is a big deal.

I never said that this was a major setback for Sony, just that they are showing weakness. Will it have any major impact anywhere? Not really. However, it does show that Sony's game department is not completely protected by the success of the other departments. And it shows that all the money they have thrown down the drain on the PS3 and PSP is starting to catch up with them. Its a minor defeat. Its a sign of weakness that could foreshadow more defeat in the long run, or it could mean almost nothing. But it is definitely not good news for sony.

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[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="Acemaster27"]

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]And this effects us gamers how?pundog

Typical cow response. When they're losing the war like they are now, they just pretend its not going on. That way they can't see a defeat. They can't see lost ground.

What's the shakspear quote they seem to be applying? "Ignorance is the greater part of losing" perhaps?

LOL...talk about grasping at staws, MS has cut jobs too as well as EA(http://kotaku.com/gaming/ea/more-on-ea's-layoffs-152469.php).  are they gonna fail too??  Whats typical is fanboys reading so much into the normal buisness moves in the buisness world.  Sony has a full generation of data to determine what works and what doesnt with their branches and where they can save money.  All buisness do this, its only the SW fanboys who read reshuffle and assume, sinking ship.  Of the thousands of jobs Sony provides you really believe a few hundred is a big deal. 

Its the way Sony laid people off though. If you're resizing/reshuffling your business you generally give people a warning and at first offer severance packages to people who volunteer to be laid off, giving them fair warning to find another job. The way Sony did it (not even informing middle management and asking people to either have their manager clean up their stuff or to set up an appointment to come in after operating hours) just reeks of Sony cutting jobs to quickly cut losses, not because they want to reshuffle their division.

You obviously never have taken any business courses. Laying off an employee and having them leave the premises immediately is common practice in EVERY company, not just Sony.  Do you realize how much damage a pissed off manager or a network administrator with access to highly sensitive material can do to a company if they are allowed to finish out the work day or week. I also have first hand experience when it comes to be laid off and asked to leave the company immediately

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#19 munu9
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Umm... the psp is selling pretty well for itself. The reason for the layoffs which was somewhat more clear than your speculation was that because they sold ps3 that they were loosing money, (~$200 on each) plus they also seem to be talking a hit on game development...