everyone talks about a Halo "killer"

first, i'm not into Halo that much, good games but never played them much i'm not really into too many FPS that focus on online, so blah blah don't flame me

but everyone talks about Sony having a halo killer, blah. now, i don't think anything can "Kill" something as popular as Halo, esspecially since Halo pretty much made the original Xbox relevant, without it , well we don't know how the Xbox would've done without it

but wouldn't the closest thing to a halo "killer" amongst FPS be COD4: Modern Warfare? I mean cod4 sold more than halo 3 (albeit yes on 3 platforms) was praised for its gameplay and came up in a lot more GOTY discussions in 2007 then Halo3 , i believe even COD4 won the gamespot users choice of GOTY in 2007 while Super Mario Galaxy won the editors choice

i remember all the build up to halo 3, and i worked that night at gamecrazy, it was insane. but then COD4 came out and while yes, of course halo 3 was still selling very very very well and still had a great online community, it seemed like more people were impressed with COD4, and that alot of ppl at that time left halo for a while for COD4.

I mean, to be fair halo 3 was a sequel and most ppl expected most of what they got, good game, etc. but with COD4 it was the first COD in modern times, and had a very good online setup, maybe due to IW developing it (as it'd been a while since they'd made COD since 2 in 2005) and its new setting (non-science fiction setting could've attracted more buyers who are very pro-military i dunno i know alot of ppl who looked into for those very reasons) so maybe halo was at a disadvantage there

but what i'm trying to say is if anything was ever to "kill" halo as the "biggest" FPS on consoles, wouldn't COD4 have done it or done it to the most that a FPS on consoles could do??
thoughts, please i'm not trying to start a COD v Halo flame war or nothing, just speculating

I don't like COD online or offline. It's decent enough, but not my cup of tea. I'd also rather support Bungie and MGS than Activision, but hey, that's just me. Of course, people will still cling to COD even when Bobby Kotick steals $120 from their wallet for a single game. Halo is a franchise that has already gone down as one of the greatest in the history of gaming. Those games are remembered. Each COD game is forgotten like a Madden game after a new one releases. Some people will still stay online, like in COD4 over WAW, but it's still a social spectacle, much like playing Madden, instead of a true gaming classic that'll be remembered. COD lives in its moment, then it's soon forgotten. The same can't be said for Halo. Other console shooters have tried to take down Halo and have failed.

I remember when Halo was hyped as Tribes killer :D

I remember when Halo was hyped as Tribes killer :D

AdrianWerner

Section 8 is the only Tribes killer here. ;)

I kid, of course. It reminds me of Tribes a lot, though.

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I remember when Halo was hyped as Tribes killer :D

BioShockOwnz

Section 8 is the only Tribes killer here. ;)

I kid, of course. It reminds me of Tribes a lot, though.

I don't like COD online or offline. It's decent enough, but not my cup of tea. I'd also rather support Bungie and MGS than Activision, but hey, that's just me. Of course, people will still cling to COD even when Bobby Kotick steals $120 from their wallet for a single game. Halo is a franchise that has already gone down as one of the greatest in the history of gaming. Those games are remembered. Each COD game is forgotten like a Madden game after a new one releases. Some people will still stay online, like in COD4 over WAW, but it's still a social spectacle, much like playing Madden, instead of a true gaming classic that'll be remembered. COD lives in its moment, then it's soon forgotten. The same can't be said for Halo. Other console shooters have tried to take down Halo and have failed.

BioShockOwnz

We've moved on to searching forKillzone 2 killers right now. Not only is it the best shooter this year , it's the best game this year by far. It's 2010 ,the bar has been raised.Modern Warfare 2 could pull it , but we'll see.

We've moved on to searching forKillzone 2 killers right now. Not only is it the best shooter this year , it's the best game this year by far. It's 2010 ,the bar has been raised.Modern Warfare 2 could pull it , but we'll see.

Nike_Air

Sorry, but 9.5's > 9.0's (Gamespot), 94 > 91 (Metacritic). KZ2 hasn't reached the reviews or amount of players that Halo has. Guerrilla tried to make it to the top of the mountain, but they stumbled a bit.

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We've moved on to searching forKillzone 2 killers right now. Not only is it the best shooter this year , it's the best game this year by far. It's 2010 ,the bar has been raised.Modern Warfare 2 could pull it , but we'll see.

BioShockOwnz

Sorry, but 9.5's > 9.0's (Gamespot), 94 > 91 (Metacritic). KZ2 hasn't reached the reviews or amount of players that Halo has. Guerrilla tried to make it to the top of the mountain, but they stumbled a bit.

Halo has already been killed.....

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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

We've moved on to searching forKillzone 2 killers right now. Not only is it the best shooter this year , it's the best game this year by far. It's 2010 ,the bar has been raised.Modern Warfare 2 could pull it , but we'll see.

Nike_Air

Sorry, but 9.5's > 9.0's (Gamespot), 94 > 91 (Metacritic). KZ2 hasn't reached the reviews or amount of players that Halo has. Guerrilla tried to make it to the top of the mountain, but they stumbled a bit.

You know how Gamespot works. 9.5 > 9.0. Excuses don't work. And it doesn't need the popularity, either, but it has that, too. It has the reviews and Bungie polish, so the popularity is just an added bonus. Halo 3 is the better game, that's all. Killzone is no Halo. That's the dealio, my friend.

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Sorry, but 9.5's > 9.0's (Gamespot), 94 > 91 (Metacritic). KZ2 hasn't reached the reviews or amount of players that Halo has. Guerrilla tried to make it to the top of the mountain, but they stumbled a bit.

BioShockOwnz

You know how Gamespot works. 9.5 > 9.0. Excuses don't work. And it doesn't need the popularity, either, but it has that, too. It has the reviews and Bungie polish, so the popularity is just an added bonus. Halo 3 is the better game, that's all. Killzone is no Halo. That's the dealio, my friend.

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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]Sorry , but completely new year. This isn't a popularity contest either.

Nike_Air

You know how Gamespot works. 9.5 > 9.0. Excuses don't work. And it doesn't need the popularity, either, but it has that, too. It has the reviews and Bungie polish, so the popularity is just an added bonus. Halo 3 is the better game, that's all. Killzone is no Halo. That's the dealio, my friend.

I think me and other 360 users invented the term because we know that any game hyped as a Halo killer will fail. There will never be a console FPS more popular. Toriko42

Call of Duty is the closest thing to being a 'Halo-killer' and many will argue that it is. The problem I see is that we'll never know for certain as long as Halo is exclusive and Call of Duty is multiplatform and being cannibalized by annual franchise releases.

I remember Metroid Prime games being called the halo killer.

Then call of duty games and now killzone 2.

Either way, it just shows how great Halo is, hate it or love it.
Just like Mgs4 and gta4.

The second I see a game walk over to another game and kill it is the second I off myself.

Moral of the story i never liked halo because it's slow paced and the aim assist is a crutch. If halo had no aim assist none of these people could hang with me in 1 vs 1 deathmatch. I never seen using aim assist/auto as playing legit. the analog might not be as accurate using as mouse it's common sense ur pushing a stick with ur thumb vs using ur arm/hand on a pad . but still doesnt mean it's impossible to play without, only legit playing is without it.videogamesdead8

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"no one could hang with me in 1 vs1" basically you died a lot and now are hating on it. :lol: You had the very same advantage matey. Same aim assist. If your such a gods gift to FPS'ers you should of had an even easier time wiping the floor with people. :lol:

Perhaps you should just come to the realization that you're not very good. A game like halo is not played as competitively as it is without some form of skill being involved. It just doesn't.

As for COD4 kililng it. No. COD4 was knocked clean off the #1 spot on most played. It put up the best fight we've seen so far but that's it.

Isn't Master Chief a Halo-killer? Yes? Okay. Master Chief is a Halo killer. Case closed. :P

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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]Sorry , but completely new year. This isn't a popularity contest either.

Nike_Air

You know how Gamespot works. 9.5 > 9.0. Excuses don't work. And it doesn't need the popularity, either, but it has that, too. It has the reviews and Bungie polish, so the popularity is just an added bonus. Halo 3 is the better game, that's all. Killzone is no Halo. That's the dealio, my friend.

KZ2 didn't set any standards for the FPS genre. That's a fact. Therefore no standards changed whatsoever, or it would've done better. Sorry, Killzone 2 is no Halo 3. Halo is above and beyond it in so many ways and that's quite obvious. And I win the System Wars argument. 9.5 > 9.0. That's that. It's okie dokie to like inferior games. Killzone 2 is inferior, as the scores show across the board. I like games that are inferior. That's fine. But let's not start saying they're superior. That's when the message loses its voice.

Well I certainly prefer COD4 as a game to Halo 3, that said, Halo 3 is still one of my favourite games this gen.

They talk about it because they want an FPS to kill Halo, they must be annoyed or jealous of Halo anytime they want to kill a game.

Call of Duty 4 did not kill Halo 3 either, in graphics it did, but everything else is subjective, and according to Gamespot, 9.5(Halo 3)>9.0(Call of Duty 4).

[QUOTE="videogamesdead8"]Moral of the story i never liked halo because it's slow paced and the aim assist is a crutch. If halo had no aim assist none of these people could hang with me in 1 vs 1 deathmatch. I never seen using aim assist/auto as playing legit. the analog might not be as accurate using as mouse it's common sense ur pushing a stick with ur thumb vs using ur arm/hand on a pad . but still doesnt mean it's impossible to play without, only legit playing is without it.CreepyBacon

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"no one could hang with me in 1 vs1" basically you died a lot and now are hating on it. :lol: You had the very same advantage matey. Same aim assist. If your such a gods gift to FPS'ers you should of had an even easier time wiping the floor with people. :lol:

Perhaps you should just come to the realization that you're not very good. A game like halo is not played as competitively as it is without some form of skill being involved. It just doesn't.

As for COD4 kililng it. No. COD4 was knocked clean off the #1 spot on most played. It put up the best fight we've seen so far but that's it.

[QUOTE="videogamesdead8"]Moral of the story i never liked halo because it's slow paced and the aim assist is a crutch. If halo had no aim assist none of these people could hang with me in 1 vs 1 deathmatch. I never seen using aim assist/auto as playing legit. the analog might not be as accurate using as mouse it's common sense ur pushing a stick with ur thumb vs using ur arm/hand on a pad . but still doesnt mean it's impossible to play without, only legit playing is without it.CreepyBacon

:lol:

"no one could hang with me in 1 vs1" basically you died a lot and now are hating on it. :lol: You had the very same advantage matey. Same aim assist. If your such a gods gift to FPS'ers you should of had an even easier time wiping the floor with people. :lol:

Perhaps you should just come to the realization that you're not very good. A game like halo is not played as competitively as it is without some form of skill being involved. It just doesn't.

As for COD4 kililng it. No. COD4 was knocked clean off the #1 spot on most played. It put up the best fight we've seen so far but that's it.

cod needs to put vehicles in the online like hummer with a 50 cal and give it the same contols as the warthog in halo