Everyone who says multiplatform games are better on pc always forgets one thing

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#1 momentum_god
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They are only better on a small fraction of pcs since the vast majority doesn't have a pc capable of running the games as well as consoles and they are more expensive, so while they are better on a high end pc you have to spend $1000 every two to three years instead of 300-600 every 5-6 (possibly 10 this time) years for those multiplats to be slightly better just seems like such a waste

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Must.............not feeed troll

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#3 i5750at4Ghz
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They are only better on a small fraction of pcs since the vast majority doesn't have a pc capable of running the games as well as consoles and they are more expensive, so while they are better on a high end pc you have to spend $1000 every two to three years instead of 300-600 every 5-6 (possibly 10 this time) years for those multiplats to be slightly better just seems like such a waste

momentum_god

You're wrong. They are better on the vast majority of systems. Consoles are stuck a 720p and 30 frames. The average PC users has something like a gtx 260 in there rig going by the steam survey. This will crush any game at said settings. Again you're wrong.

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#4 lawlessx
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alot of strange anti PC threads this week.
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They are only better on a small fraction of pcs since the vast majority doesn't have a pc capable of running the games as well as consoles and they are more expensive, so while they are better on a high end pc you have to spend $1000 every two to three years instead of 300-600 every 5-6 (possibly 10 this time) years for those multiplats to be slightly better just seems like such a waste

momentum_god
No, you can run every multiplat at higher settings than consoles with a graphics card that is $30 on ebay.
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#6 Firebird-5
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well there are only a small fraction of consoles that can play games because usually they explode or they get ylod
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#7 KillerWabbit23
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So quality is directly related to how many copies a game could sell?

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#8 sandbox3d
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Trolling PC gamers is a tough job nowadays I guess, what with all the competing trolls and tired, baseless arguments. Keep fighting the good fight though!

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#9 Grawse
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Multiplats are the games that run smooth as butter and don't require a whole lot. It's certain exclusives that bring lower end rigs to their knees.

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#11 xMinijackx
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHR2vXgJJcE

That is all.

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#12 2Chalupas
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They are also forgetting that there are MANY multi-platform games that are only on consoles, not on PC. When you combine console exclusives with Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo exclusives, PC gamers miss out on quite a few classics each gaming gen.

That being said it's a silly argument, PC gaming is what you make it. It's conceptually not even the same thing as a console. With a console you KNOW what you are getting, but you know what you are getting will always stay stagnant and at the end of a gen it begins to really show. With a PC you can have a integrated graphics and be able to run nothing but indie games. If you spend $299 you will have a hard time even beating console performance even now, 5 years later. But If you invest even as little as $500 today, the multiplat games that are available on PC will tend to run much smoother and higher res on PC than on consoles. It's stupid to argue otherwise. If you have a top of the line system with dual GPU's than you just about have a next gen system, but unfortunately there really aren't many games that take fully advantage of it.

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#13 deactivated-5e376fa88bd45
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They are only better on a small fraction of pcs since the vast majority doesn't have a pc capable of running the games as well as consoles and they are more expensive, so while they are better on a high end pc you have to spend $1000 every two to three years instead of 300-600 every 5-6 (possibly 10 this time) years for those multiplats to be slightly better just seems like such a waste

momentum_god

Time for a personal anecdote.

Haven't bought any new upgrades on my PC for about 3 years or so. played Crysis 2 on it 2 weeks ago. Ran fantastic on it on near high settings whilst looking better then the console versions.

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word

A swing and a miss.

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They are also forgetting that there are MANY multi-platform games that are only on consoles, not on PC. When you combine console exclusives with Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo exclusives, PC gamers miss out on just as much if not more than console gamers miss on PC exclusives.

2Chalupas

This is wrong.

http://adrianwerner.wordpress.com/

Go check.

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Try harder next time, this was bad.
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#17 2Chalupas
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[QUOTE="momentum_god"]

They are only better on a small fraction of pcs since the vast majority doesn't have a pc capable of running the games as well as consoles and they are more expensive, so while they are better on a high end pc you have to spend $1000 every two to three years instead of 300-600 every 5-6 (possibly 10 this time) years for those multiplats to be slightly better just seems like such a waste

SAGE_OF_FIRE

No, you can run every multiplat at higher settings than consoles with a graphics card that is $30 on ebay.

Yeah, but you're going to have to spend at least $200-300 on other parts, and an operating system. I've done the math myself becuase I've been looking at components for awhile (tired of just having a 15" laptop with intel graphics). For me, a relatively barebones "gaming" system to actually get a REASONABLE increase in gaming over consoles is $500, but most would probably want to spend a little more like - $600-700 for most people - including operating system. If I went "on the cheap" and built a system for $300 it might just barely exceed consoles and be stuck still at playing at something close to 720P and still have relatively low framerates , it almost wouldn't be worth doing that unless it was your ONLY computer, not as something you were building dedicated for gaming. Even if someone wanted to building a PC for $300, it would be a challenge just because the OS is nearly $100 by itself, that only leaves you $200 for hardware, assuming everyone is working on legit terms and paying for thier license (which I would be doing).

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#18 Jankarcop
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Wrong. To make the visuals, load times, fps, +mods better than console you don't need to spend over $600-700

You are thinking of maxing out, which requires ~$800-1100.

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#19 magnusm1
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Don't feed the troll, guys.

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They are only better on a small fraction of pcs since the vast majority doesn't have a pc capable of running the games as well as consoles and they are more expensive, so while they are better on a high end pc you have to spend $1000 every two to three years instead of 300-600 every 5-6 (possibly 10 this time) years for those multiplats to be slightly better just seems like such a waste

momentum_god
I think you are confusing "all PC owners" with "PC owners who play games". Chances are if u intend to play games on your PC, you have a PC capable of running them. No one plays multiplats on a Walmart PC.
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#21 MrSelf-Destruct
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word

A swing and a miss.

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:lol: Nice. I see that I am not needed here. You guys keep up the good work.

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#22 X360PS3AMD05
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Low PC graphics are on par with consoles, what's this guy on about?
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#23 2Chalupas
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[QUOTE="2Chalupas"]

They are also forgetting that there are MANY multi-platform games that are only on consoles, not on PC. When you combine console exclusives with Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo exclusives, PC gamers miss out on just as much if not more than console gamers miss on PC exclusives.

Espada12

This is wrong.

http://adrianwerner.wordpress.com/

Go check.

You'd have to filter out all the crap and games with $10,000 development budgets. That's like a long laundry list of indy titles that I mostly don't care about, You could probably add about 20+ of the worst games on that list together, and I wouldn't trade Red Dead Redemption for them combined. Not that I would have to trade anyway, because I already have had a steam account for quite awhile and even with weak integrated graphics most of those games are not a problem at all - indy games even run 1080P with integrated graphics, 8)

For PC gaming I'm talking the core games that actually utilze poeple with modern GPU's, there are dwindlng numbers of "core games" exclusive for PC that actually utilize their GPU's. Certainly they enjoy increase performance on all multiplats, but they are also MISSING a good number of multiplat releases altogether, nevermind the console exlusives. For me personally I'm only looking at PC now because my laptop will be due for replacement in the next 12 months anyway, and I feel like I can build a decent enough gaming rig for $500 or $600. Might as well go that route and scrap the "laptop" altogether.

However if I list the console games there's quite a few I couldn't live without, All I'm saying is it's not a one sided debate at all, if anything it's 50/50, probably in favor of consoles if you have all 3 consoles vs 1 gaming rig (of equal expense), with multipole consoles you are enjoying many more high profile exclusives as well as all multiplats, with the obvious sacrifice of lower max technical performance (i.e. no 1080p).

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#24 gmaster456
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Everyone who tries to bash the PC always forgets one thing...How to provide a valid, reasonable, non flawedbeyond repair,argument . Thanks for the laugh though. Your moms proud

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#25 momentum_god
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[QUOTE="momentum_god"]

They are only better on a small fraction of pcs since the vast majority doesn't have a pc capable of running the games as well as consoles and they are more expensive, so while they are better on a high end pc you have to spend $1000 every two to three years instead of 300-600 every 5-6 (possibly 10 this time) years for those multiplats to be slightly better just seems like such a waste

navyguy21
I think you are confusing "all PC owners" with "PC owners who play games". Chances are if u intend to play games on your PC, you have a PC capable of running them. No one plays multiplats on a Walmart PC.

Actually everyone else is, the reason most people don't play games on PC is because it's so much more expensive, though I admit I exaggerated in my original post
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#26 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="momentum_god"]

They are only better on a small fraction of pcs since the vast majority doesn't have a pc capable of running the games as well as consoles and they are more expensive, so while they are better on a high end pc you have to spend $1000 every two to three years instead of 300-600 every 5-6 (possibly 10 this time) years for those multiplats to be slightly better just seems like such a waste

i5750at4Ghz

You're wrong. They are better on the vast majority of systems. Consoles are stuck a 720p and 30 frames. The average PC users has something like a gtx 260 in there rig going by the steam survey. This will crush any game at said settings. Again you're wrong.

steam survey is the average pc gamer more likely, the average PC user that also has consoles is a totally different story
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#27 Jankarcop
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This is a gaming forum, we're assuming its atleast a gaming mediocre PC......:roll:

Even then the multiplats are way better on PC.

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#28 Filthybastrd
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="momentum_god"]

They are only better on a small fraction of pcs since the vast majority doesn't have a pc capable of running the games as well as consoles and they are more expensive, so while they are better on a high end pc you have to spend $1000 every two to three years instead of 300-600 every 5-6 (possibly 10 this time) years for those multiplats to be slightly better just seems like such a waste

momentum_god

I think you are confusing "all PC owners" with "PC owners who play games". Chances are if u intend to play games on your PC, you have a PC capable of running them. No one plays multiplats on a Walmart PC.

Actually everyone else is, the reason most people don't play games on PC is because it's so much more expensive, though I admit I exaggerated in my original post

You did exaggerate in your opening post but that's just one of it's problems.

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#29 dc337
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A bigger problem is that the pc gets skipped on a lot of multiplats and doesn't have local co-op. If the pc was treated equally by developers like Rockstar and EA I would consider putting one in the living room.

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#30 BPoole96
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Just about anyone who strictly games on a PC has more power than a PS3 or 360

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#31 momentum_god
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Just about anyone who strictly games on a PC has more power than a PS3 or 360

BPoole96
and thats less then 1% of people who own a pc
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#32 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Just about anyone who strictly games on a PC has more power than a PS3 or 360

momentum_god

and thats less then 1% of people who own a pc

Yes, but in this case, we are addressing the people who play games on their PC, and they get the best version of most mutliplats. We can't just disregard them

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#33 momentum_god
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[QUOTE="momentum_god"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Just about anyone who strictly games on a PC has more power than a PS3 or 360

BPoole96

and thats less then 1% of people who own a pc

Yes, but in this case, we are addressing the people who play games on their PC, and they get the best version of most mutliplats. We can't just disregard them

But we should just disregard the tens of millions of people who get a better version on consoles because they didn't spend a ton on their pc and build it from the ground up and make sure all their software works right with it?
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#34 soulitane
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Just about anyone who strictly games on a PC has more power than a PS3 or 360

momentum_god
and thats less then 1% of people who own a pc

Where exactly are these numbers coming from?