Everything that was wrong with GTAIV

Ok im hearing alot of talk from people who are new to the franchise and thinks that GTA4 is truly a good game. Ill admit, its a good quality game...BUT that doesnt always mean that its fun and addicting.

Here is the things that i hate about this game compared to other GTA games.

Story. The story was boring and not interesting. i hated the characters, roman was the only one i liked....See in San Andreas it was about finding out who killed cjs mom. The story has twists and turns that are intersting. I cared about the other characters, i liked them. And i like how San Andreas had all the GTA's connected. from seeing characters from vice city and how stuff was going to go down in GTA3. like it realy gets your interest.

Gangs. WHERE ARE THE GANGS?...This was a BIG thing in the GTA franchise. EVERY gta game had gangs spawning at its territory. when you start beef with 1 person you got all them chasin after ur butt. even the gangs were intersting. they all had a name, how they looked, what they drived, when 2 gangs accedently meet on the street, its a war! i would have some good times with SA. recruiting gang members, going into a car and doing drive bys on other gangs, police chasing you, ur gangs shooting back from the window...bottom line is, GTA is NOTHING with out gangs.

Gun Range. NO GUN RANGE. in SA when you go to the gun range or even shoot at people you improve you statiss for that gun. ex...pistol. when you master
it you get deul pistols. AK47, improves your sight, shoot while moving. also this game has MUCH more guns compared to GTA4.

License....no licenses to get in GTA4. in SA you had licenses for cars, boats, motorcycles, plains. and it was addicting trying to get gold for every thing becasue you unlock stuff when you do. ex...plain license. once got gold for everything you get this war helicopter.

Cheats. in other GTA games, cheats were FUN to use. i remember when i remerize it then i manage to input so fast. in GTA 4 you have to take out the cell phone, input the numbers. when your in a shootout with police and get shot while you inputing the code to get full life, niko puts the cell phone way. and the amount of cheats were crazy back then. cheats were fun when you just wanted to fool around, now, not so much...

k im going to make this short. SA has statises for almost everything that gets you addicted for mastering, from range on weapons, riding a motorcycle with a harder time of falling off, larger bunny hops on a bicycle!....who doesnt miss the BIKES in the game? bmx bikes, mountain bike. in SA you can swim under water. silencer on the pistol. stealth kill with a knife. amount of SIDE MISSIONS in SA were crazy! dieing easily in GTA4 is also not fun. taking over gang territories in SA was fun. COSTUMIZE! from costumizing your cars, costumizing your self!...working out, or getting fat in SA. Holding x just to run in gta4 was annoying. BUYING PROPERTIES, was another big thing in GTA series, it acually makes you want to go out and earn money, becasue in GTA4 the only thing you can do with money is buy weapons:?. garages for your CAR! not some yellow rectangle. playing basketball. learning fighting **** for god sakes! from kung fu to boxing to kick boxing. JETPACK!...the jetpack in SA was the BEST. THE ARMY! in true GTA games, once you get 6 stars the army comes after you with TANKS. also other gta games had off limit areas that once you go in, its war. and i can go forever on everything that SA has over GTA4.

See its all these unlockables, statistics in SA is the type of thing that gets you hooked in the game. IMO i think the multiplayer in GTA4 was one of the things that killed it. they could of added much more in the game. GTA 4 chose to go for realism and graphics over FUN. the driving in the game is terrible! its like driving on ice. Man i remember in vice city and san andreas, once i beat the game i was sad, once i beat GTA 4 i was like FINALY! the game just got boring. it was GTA4 that convinced me on buying a next gen system. i was going to settle with the ps2 but im like WOW that game is amazing. with all that hype, it turns out to be a total let down. how the game got rated 10 is beyond me. i would give it a 9 for its quality

I just want rockstar to make a TRUE gta game next time. that acually feels like gta

Imo you should have done either one of two things instead of making an entire thread about your opinion.

1. Blog it, simple as that.

2. Or better yet write a Player Review :shock: did that ever cross your mind?

but you could make a list over twice as long as that for everything that was right with GTA4..... but you never see the possitives in SW

GTAIV was a good game, stop hating.

but you could make a list over twice as long as that for everything that was right with GTA4..... but you never see the possitives in SW

doobie1975

But where's the fun in praising games? :P hates the best way to go :P.

I think the city in GTAIV is incredible, and I think the game starts out very good. But Niko's story seems to sort of drift off when you get off the first section of the city, and then you meet more characters and the whole game seems to start dragging. I've tried to finish the game twice but it ran out of steam for me around the halfway point and I can't carry on. I gave up when I was in a helicopter with that Rasta shooting down stuff. There is something wrong with GTAIV, I just can't really pin point the main problem.

imo its the best of the lot, I like the realism in 4 compared to the rest

and I for one loved the story, all the other GTA seem cartoony

I think their approach was great to be honest. They brought it back to its roots. GTA3 tried to be much more believable because of the 3d engine. The problem is the games were built for the PS2 so the ran into some massive limitations on what they could do with the hardware. To make up with that they added tons of extra content.

With GTA4 they now had two new powerful technologies. First they had a brand new game engine that allowed for the city to really come to life. The second being the Euphoria physics engine which brought the people to life. Combine the two and you have a whole new experience. They decided to make the game more believable but still have all of the crazy characters and radio shows and locations they could fit.

I think it worked better than GTA SA. Personally GTA SA bored the crap out of me. After awhile I realized that I was gaining nothing from all of those silly extras and just stopped playing. GTA4 had such a powerful story and used its game engine well to keep me wanting more. Throw in some multiplayer for some true mayhem and it was unbelievably good.

I'm glad they went the route they went. I thought the GTA series was dead after San Andreas, they were able to prove me wrong.

GTAIV was a good game, stop hating.

MassiveKaos

To his credit he still gave it an 9.0, what he's complaining about his how did it get a 10, considering not only doesn't he think it deserves it, but also the fact that he beleives SA was better (which got a 9.6). But either its still not the place to post this stuff anyway.

I think the city in GTAIV is incredible, and I think the game starts out very good. But Niko's story seems to sort of drift off when you get off the first section of the city, and then you meet more characters and the whole game seems to start dragging. I've tried to finish the game twice but it ran out of steam for me around the halfway point and I can't carry on. I gave up when I was in a helicopter with that Rasta shooting down stuff. There is something wrong with GTAIV, I just can't really pin point the main problem.

_SniperFox_

Disagree.

GTA 4, story was great, funny. Nice was a funny guy.

Basically you want to go play Saints row.

There are biker gangs though.

Anyway they were trying not to do over the top stuff like there was in SA and it turned out a little more shallow because there was less content but the presentation was way better and honestly the story was way better than SA. Vice City had the best story out of the 3 on PS2 because SA was just "YO DAWG LETS POP THESE FOOLS".

There are biker gangs though.

Anyway they were trying not to do over the top stuff like there was in SA and it turned out a little more shallow because there was less content but the presentation was way better and honestly the story was way better than SA. Vice City had the best story out of the 3 on PS2 because SA was just "YO DAWG LETS POP THESE FOOLS".

BigDaddyPOLO

well i guess fun factor

after playing throw three series in the game i guess the fun factor bore me down

adding online to the game saved it tho IMO

GTA4 took away everything that made 3,VC,and SA good, but had good graphics. ????

I think the city in GTAIV is incredible, and I think the game starts out very good. But Niko's story seems to sort of drift off when you get off the first section of the city, and then you meet more characters and the whole game seems to start dragging. I've tried to finish the game twice but it ran out of steam for me around the halfway point and I can't carry on. I gave up when I was in a helicopter with that Rasta shooting down stuff. There is something wrong with GTAIV, I just can't really pin point the main problem.

_SniperFox_

i agree that gta 4 has some things lacking compared to san andreas but one of them is not the story .. i´m playing gta 4 now and i´m enjoying the stoy and characters .san andreas was good for other reasons.. and gta 4 is not that good for these reasons imo:

mission variety: compared with san andreas ,it is the main negative issue.. too may drive here kill this guys.. where´s those crazy missions like green goo, fender ketchup etc from san andreas?

lack of things to do outside the main mission: bowling and darts games??? terrible. no cool races. no bike challenges..no stuff like that besides the liveshows

the shooting meahnics , story and characters ,phone and the city were good evolutions , the driving , "fun" factor and mission variety just got worse.

gta is one of the greatest games ever created. just the depth of the thing is extraordinary. ok some of youre points are well made but just open up the box and look at that map under the manual. then turn it over and its even got a subwat map like the london underground. the thing is just like a real life city and it is truly amazing, raising the benchmark for every 360/ps3 game.R_MAHIL

I think GTAIV was just one rockstars experiments.... a highly overated experiment...

I am not going to read all of that. I think GTA4 is a awesome game and thought it was the best GTA in the series. But I had not played GTA: SA yet. I owned it for PC, but couldn't stand playing it with K/M and couldn't find my PC controller. But then a few months after beating GTA4, I found my PC controller and reinstalled GTA: SA to give it another try and man am I glad I did. After beating SA, I was left dumb founded. I sat there confused to why they would have watered GTA4 down so much compared to SA when it was on the PS3 vs SA being on PS2. Bottom line is GTA: SA is way better than GTA4 and anybody saying GTA4 is the best has yet to play SA or just bad taste. But GTA: SA being better than GTA4 doesn't make GTA4 a bad game, just a watered down game compared to what it could have been. It cracks me up when I see a site gave GTA4 a 10. Really with what all they removed that was in SA, it should have gotten a 8.5-9.0.

Rockstar has grown up. It sounds like SR2 is more of your thang, bro.

Rockstar has grown up. It sounds like SR2 is more of your thang, bro.

BioShockOwnz

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Rockstar has grown up. It sounds like SR2 is more of your thang, bro.

noble_aryan

It is. It's even more over-the-top in many ways. It allows you to be the "septic avenger" and spray crap on crowds of people. It has zombie mini-games. It's crazy.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Rockstar has grown up. It sounds like SR2 is more of your thang, bro.

noble_aryan

I'd say the best way to sum it up without forcing people to read all of that text wall would be: "GTAIV is a good game, but it isn't 'GTA' like the rest of the series. It's too serious and a huge departure in styIe and gameplay from the previous iterations." At least, that would be my analysis of the game. I'd still like to try playing it again... but I can't get over Niko's stupid, forced accent.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Rockstar has grown up. It sounds like SR2 is more of your thang, bro.

noble_aryan

I don't get the GTA4 hate. I've been playing GTA every since GTA3 came out, which is one of the greatest games ever made. Then Vice City took GTA3 but added a much better story and more gameplay features.

San Andreas was a weird game though. The story really wasn't that great, and I didn't enjoy all the rpg esque character stats. The game world in San Andreas is incredible though.

But I think GTA4 is a fantastic game. To me, GTA4 kind of recaptures the feel of GTA3, having a big, realistic city. And technology wise it's incredible.

And who knows, maybe GTA4 was just Rockstars way of introducing GTA to the new gen of technology. For all we know the next GTA game could be just like San Andreas but with 4's engine.

If IV would be just like SA, what would be the point of that? You have two identical games! Ilike IV, because it's more realistic and stuff.

GTA4 introduces a new game engine. That's why it's so diffirent. GTA SA was still running with GTA3 engine.

I like the characters, the story, the arsenal and cars. And isn't blowing things up the main point of GTA. It has been there since GTA1.

GTA SA was epic. I love that game. Shame that IV doesn't have many myths. I would love to investigate. I remember me and my friend searching for Leatherface in SA.

your basic argument is saying that gta4 isnt fun because its not san andreas....to each his own i guess, but i disagree strongly, half the fun of gta4 is playing online with a group of friends, turn off friendly fire and give everyone rocket launchers....fun times