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#1 Wombatringo
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I'm wondering how games on PC count against the 360 in terms of exclusives, but when the term "graphics king" is used, we exclude the PC from the equation entirely. This makes no sense. Its obvious that the PC will have better graphics. However, it seems more than convenient that the PC is included in some arguments when comparing 360 and PS3, but not in others. Hypocrisy? I think so.

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#2 dragonfly110
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well the PC tends to be excluded from the graphics comparison because it is not a regular console, it is on a whole different medium.

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#3 goatblah
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Please it would be a wipeout thats why. who really thinks that pc graphics can be beat? Hence, why argue......
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#4 sillaris
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PC is included. crysis is graphics king on your 5000$ computer

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#5 Irick_cb
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I'm wondering how games on PC count against the 360 in terms of exclusives, but when the term "graphics king" is used, we exclude the PC from the equation entirely. This makes no sense. Its obvious that the PC will have better graphics. However, it seems more than convenient that the PC is included in some arguments when comparing 360 and PS3, but not in others. Hypocrisy? I think so.

Wombatringo

Because it would make things boring.

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#6 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

well the PC tends to be excluded from the graphics comparison because it is not a regular console, it is on a whole different medium.

This.
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#7 Wombatringo
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

well the PC tends to be excluded from the graphics comparison because it is not a regular console, it is on a whole different medium.

This.

Then by this same token, we claim that games that are brought to the PC as well as the 360 are multi-plat, even though they are on a different medium? Makes no sense.
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#8 AAllxxjjnn
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PC is included. crysis is graphics king on your 5000$ computer

sillaris
More like on your $800 computer.
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#9 goatblah
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God, are you all really in this much denial? Who cares how much the system costs? the fact is that it can produce the best graphics, physics and everything else and if your arguing about that then cost and (THE PC IS DIFFERENT) dosn't apply to your defences. think again.
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#10 sikanderahmed
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pc is excluded when the term "console graphics king" is used, if someone just says "graphics king" then pc is included. problem with hermits is that they post pics of crysis even in "console graphics king" threads

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#11 Nike_Air
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It's only hypocrisy if the exact same people are making both arguments. You might just be seeing different people with different thoughts and trying to lump that into hypocrisy when it's not the case.

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#12 osan0
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theres no debate thats why. unless the developer is grossly incompetent, the PC version (depending on the owners hardware of course) will always look better than the console version of a multiplat. even if the dev just uses the same textures, the PC can still have higher AA and AF at higher resolutions...thus making it the superior looking version. not to mention a higher FPS to go along with it. so it shouldnt be used in any console graphical comparisons...theres no point. anyone who does state it is just stating the blindingly obvious and not adding to any graphical comparison debate.
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#13 dragonfly110
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

well the PC tends to be excluded from the graphics comparison because it is not a regular console, it is on a whole different medium.

Wombatringo

This.

Then by this same token, we claim that games that are brought to the PC as well as the 360 are multi-plat, even though they are on a different medium? Makes no sense.

well some people dont conssider it that, but even so, I mean that it is on a different medium as far as graphics go, it is still a game playing device (I really hesitate to callit a home console as it is so different from that) so it gets games.

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#14 goatblah
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also its better to judge the two consoles as they can actually compete with each other. Whats the point of creating graphics threads if someone is gonna post crysis shots and own the thread everytime?? This isn't an argument.
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#15 dragonfly110
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also its better to judge the two consoles as they can actually compete with each other. Whats the point of creating graphics threads if someone is gonna post crysis shots and own the thread everytime?? This isn't an argument.goatblah

that is exactly the point I was trying to make. *gives a win cookie*

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#16 adamosmaki
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PC is included. crysis is graphics king on your 5000$ computer

sillaris
Dont forget the "every month" upgrade , pc has "no games" , pc's "dont have controllers" and pc's "cant be connected" to tv's arguments
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#17 clembo1990
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[QUOTE="sillaris"]

PC is included. crysis is graphics king on your 5000$ computer

adamosmaki
Dont forget the "every month" upgrade , pc has "no games" , pc's "dont have controllers" and pc's "cant be connected" to tv's arguments

And the fact "PC can't do HD", that's the PC's biggest flaw.
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#18 Floppy_Jim
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I'm wondering how games on PC count against the 360 in terms of exclusives,but when the term "graphics king" is used, we exclude the PC from the equation entirely. This makes no sense. Its obvious that the PC will have better graphics. However, it seems more than convenient that the PC is included in some arguments when comparing 360 and PS3, but not in others. Hypocrisy? I think so.

Wombatringo

^You kinda answered your own question.

Anyway, you shouldn't care about it so much. This is only an internet forum where people call each other animal names.

An internet forum.

Where people call each other animal names.

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#19 NielsNL
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Why do PC-owners (not allowed to say hermits anymore?) always feel excluded on SW. Every single thread that has had the word graphics in its title will ALWAYS within the first 20 posts mention Crysis, even if the thread clearly states CONSOLE graphics in its title. Yes, yes, we know our inferior consoles can't do anything even remotely close to Crysis. Aftr having said so over 100.000 times we know.But we still enjoy playing them.

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#20 EVOLV3
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PC is always included, but everyone realizes that Crysis on the PC beats console games.

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#21 Menalque2
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Please it would be a wipeout thats why. who really thinks that pc graphics can be beat? Hence, why argue......goatblah

This

It's pointless bringing the PC into a graphics debate, when it is painfully obvious that the PC is a good few years ahead of consoles in terms of hardware.

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#22 clembo1990
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Please it would be a wipeout thats why. who really thinks that pc graphics can be beat? Hence, why argue......goatblah
"Why argue?" Is exactly the point. Why debate between console graphics when the PC obliterates it.?
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#23 goatblah
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[QUOTE="goatblah"]Please it would be a wipeout thats why. who really thinks that pc graphics can be beat? Hence, why argue......Menalque2

This

It's pointless bringing the PC into a graphics debate, when it is painfully obvious that the PC is a good few years ahead of consoles in terms of hardware.

I understand/agree with what your saying but its not entirely true. The hardware in the consoles is in some cases more advanced then technology used in PC's and also more futuristic such as the cell processor. This, however, doesn't mean they are more powerful, they have been designed with a price point in mind thus they are designed to be more limited and take big advantage of the cost/power ratio.