Expect LA Noire to have an astronomical amount of used copies by next week

For the gamer who doesn't do extensive research on a game, they will see Rockstar and expect a GTA-clone. However, when they actually put in about 2-3 hours into LA Noire they will come to a shocking conclusion.....Its not. The unamusing "investigation" system will quickly bore the casual shoot em up/run over people will a car crowd. The same system which basically hold your hands during an investigation (you literally can't make the wrong decision) will seem underwhelming to those looking for any kind of challenge. Combine that with the limited free roam ( you will be warped to a good portion of your cases as well as most of the "enviroment" lacking of any kind of interaction) and you'll have a product that will dip well below player expectations. Expect the usual Rockstar influenced positive score though.....

that didn't prevent HR from selling 2+ million copies .

I honestly couldn't care less about what the average run'n'gun GTA player wants in a game. It'll only dip below their expectations because they were expecting the wrong game. From the reviews I've read, LA Noire is more or less a complete success as an investigative adventure game, and that's all I wanted out of it.Planeforger

A success as an investigative game when you literally can't pick the wrong decision? You're joking right???

that didn't prevent HR from selling 2+ million copies .

omho88

[QUOTE="Planeforger"]I honestly couldn't care less about what the average run'n'gun GTA player wants in a game. It'll only dip below their expectations because they were expecting the wrong game. From the reviews I've read, LA Noire is more or less a complete success as an investigative adventure game, and that's all I wanted out of it.kobedaGOAT

A success as an investigative game when you literally can't pick the wrong decision? You're joking right???

Are you joking? You can pick the wrong decision, arrest the wrong person and get a lower rating for the case. You can also choose to drive all over if you please, you aren't forced to "warp" to the crime scene.

[QUOTE="Planeforger"]From the reviews I've read, LA Noire is more or less a complete success as an investigative adventure game, and that's all I wanted out of it.kobedaGOAT

A success as an investigative game when you literally can't pick the wrong decision? You're joking right???

Eh, it worked for Phoenix Wright, and LA Noire sounds a lot more flexible than that series was.

You -can- pick the wrong decision here, by accusing the wrong people or reading their facial expressions incorrectly.
Sure, the penalties for doing that are light, and maybe they compromised a bit too heavily for the more typical Rockstar crowd (challenging puzzle-solving might be a bit of an ask for people who usually just like to run over prostitutes a lot), but if the aim is to challenge yourself to pull off a perfect investigation...I don't have too many problems with it.

Well I guess I will get to play it quicker because my Brother preordered it so once he is done he will allow me to play it.

[QUOTE="kobedaGOAT"]

[QUOTE="Planeforger"]I honestly couldn't care less about what the average run'n'gun GTA player wants in a game. It'll only dip below their expectations because they were expecting the wrong game. From the reviews I've read, LA Noire is more or less a complete success as an investigative adventure game, and that's all I wanted out of it.CMPunk13

A success as an investigative game when you literally can't pick the wrong decision? You're joking right???

Are you joking? You can pick the wrong decision, arrest the wrong person and get a lower rating for the case. You can also choose to drive all over if you please, you aren't forced to "warp" to the crime scene.

smh. Rockstar themselves said " there are no wrong answers and no dead ends that will kill a case". Their exact words. Who gives a crap about a rating when you literally can't go wrong in a freaking investigation........

[QUOTE="CMPunk13"]

[QUOTE="kobedaGOAT"]

A success as an investigative game when you literally can't pick the wrong decision? You're joking right???

kobedaGOAT

Are you joking? You can pick the wrong decision, arrest the wrong person and get a lower rating for the case. You can also choose to drive all over if you please, you aren't forced to "warp" to the crime scene.

smh. Rockstar themselves said " there are no wrong answers and no dead ends that will kill a case". Their exact words. Who gives a crap about a rating when you literally can't go wrong in a freaking investigation........

[QUOTE="kobedaGOAT"]

[QUOTE="CMPunk13"]

Are you joking? You can pick the wrong decision, arrest the wrong person and get a lower rating for the case. You can also choose to drive all over if you please, you aren't forced to "warp" to the crime scene.

JohnF111

smh. Rockstar themselves said " there are no wrong answers and no dead ends that will kill a case". Their exact words. Who gives a crap about a rating when you literally can't go wrong in a freaking investigation........

Poor attempt at sarcasm. You don't have to complete a game when the freaking people associated with said game tell you about it. I don't see what you were even trying to do here....

smh. Rockstar themselves said " there are no wrong answers and no dead ends that will kill a case". Their exact words. Who gives a crap about a rating when you literally can't go wrong in a freaking investigation........

kobedaGOAT

Can you think of a detective game, featuring multiple cases, where arresting the wrong person doesn't give you a Game Over screen?

Actually, for that matter, I'd say that the vast majority of great detective games are designed so that you 'literally can't go wrong in a freaking investigation' - check out anything like the Gabriel Knight series, the Tex Murphy series, the Phoenix Wright series, the Sherlock Holmes games, the Still Life games, Discworld Noir, etc. etc.

[QUOTE="kobedaGOAT"]

smh. Rockstar themselves said " there are no wrong answers and no dead ends that will kill a case". Their exact words. Who gives a crap about a rating when you literally can't go wrong in a freaking investigation........

Planeforger

Can you think of a detective game, featuring multiple cases, where arresting the wrong person doesn't give you a Game Over screen?

Actually, for that matter, I'd say that the vast majority of great detective games are designed so that you 'literally can't go wrong in a freaking investigation' - check out anything like the Gabriel Knight series, the Tex Murphy series, the Phoenix Wright series, the Sherlock Holmes games, the Still Life games, Discworld Noir, etc. etc.

You've just given my wallet alot of the cry about... Been looking for some good mystery games :D

[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="kobedaGOAT"]

smh. Rockstar themselves said " there are no wrong answers and no dead ends that will kill a case". Their exact words. Who gives a crap about a rating when you literally can't go wrong in a freaking investigation........

kobedaGOAT

Poor attempt at sarcasm. You don't have to complete a game when the freaking people associated with said game tell you about it. I don't see what you were even trying to do here....

[QUOTE="kobedaGOAT"]

smh. Rockstar themselves said " there are no wrong answers and no dead ends that will kill a case". Their exact words. Who gives a crap about a rating when you literally can't go wrong in a freaking investigation........

Planeforger

Can you think of a detective game, featuring multiple cases, where arresting the wrong person doesn't give you a Game Over screen?

Actually, for that matter, I'd say that the vast majority of great detective games are designed so that you 'literally can't go wrong in a freaking investigation' - check out anything like the Gabriel Knight series, the Tex Murphy series, the Phoenix Wright series, the Sherlock Holmes games, the Still Life games, Discworld Noir, etc. etc.

I didn't know Team Bondi/Rockstar was regulated to copying other games. What does past titles have to do with LA Noire? Horrednous argument....

*Horrendous

[QUOTE="kobedaGOAT"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"]Oh so you've completed the game already? You should submit a review to GS you might get recognised for it.JohnF111

Poor attempt at sarcasm. You don't have to complete a game when the freaking people associated with said game tell you about it. I don't see what you were even trying to do here....

Are you serious? What part of "there are no wrong answers and no dead ends that will kill a case" is difficult to comprehend? Its quite straighforward. Continue to argue a mute point though...

[QUOTE="Planeforger"]

Can you think of a detective game, featuring multiple cases, where arresting the wrong person doesn't give you a Game Over screen?

Actually, for that matter, I'd say that the vast majority of great detective games are designed so that you 'literally can't go wrong in a freaking investigation' - check out anything like the Gabriel Knight series, the Tex Murphy series, the Phoenix Wright series, the Sherlock Holmes games, the Still Life games, Discworld Noir, etc. etc.

kobedaGOAT

I didn't know Team Bondi/Rockstar was regulated to copying other games. What does past titles have to do with LA Noire? Horrednous argument....

Uh, you implied earlier that a detective game like LA Noire can't be successful if you can't make the wrong choices. That list of past games shows that they can.

I mean, sure, Team Bondi could have taken some revolutionary new stance and made failures have harsh penalties (while sacrificing a stronger narrative and player satisfaction)...but can you really fault them for sticking to the standard design for these sorts of games?

[QUOTE="kobedaGOAT"]

[QUOTE="Planeforger"]

Can you think of a detective game, featuring multiple cases, where arresting the wrong person doesn't give you a Game Over screen?

Actually, for that matter, I'd say that the vast majority of great detective games are designed so that you 'literally can't go wrong in a freaking investigation' - check out anything like the Gabriel Knight series, the Tex Murphy series, the Phoenix Wright series, the Sherlock Holmes games, the Still Life games, Discworld Noir, etc. etc.

Planeforger

I didn't know Team Bondi/Rockstar was regulated to copying other games. What does past titles have to do with LA Noire? Horrednous argument....

Uh, you implied earlier that a detective game like LA Noire can't be successful if you can't make the wrong choices. That list of past games shows that they can.

I mean, sure, Team Bondi could have taken some revolutionary new stance and made failures have harsh penalties (while sacrificing a stronger narrative and player satisfaction)...but can you really fault them for sticking to the standard design for these sorts of games?

[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="kobedaGOAT"]

Poor attempt at sarcasm. You don't have to complete a game when the freaking people associated with said game tell you about it. I don't see what you were even trying to do here....

kobedaGOAT

Are you serious? What part of "there are no wrong answers and no dead ends that will kill a case" is difficult to comprehend? Its quite straighforward. Continue to argue a mute point though...