Explain this to me, I may have missed it.

Why has Braid been skipped as a AAA exclusive for the 360?

Sure, it's a Xbox Live Arcade game, but it's still a game. It's no more less of a game than MGS4.

Did cows just get nervous, and demand that Live games cannot count because it doesn't cost $60?

Why has Braid been skipped as a AAA exclusive for the 360?

Sure, it's a Xbox Live Arcade game, but it's still a game. It's no more less of a game than MGS4.

Did cows just get nervous, and demand that Live games cannot count because it doesn't cost $60?

MortalDecay

Its funny how Braid ( 9.5)

Geometry wars 2 (9.0)

and Castle crashers (i think 8.0) go missing from there ps3 rules 2008 lists when those are some of the most fun to be had in xbox 360 2008

Most of Gamespot decided against it... Not just the cows.

I don't agree with it, though.

Perhaps the mods can clear this up, but I don't think small downloadable games actually count in the whole "Which console has more AAAAAAAEEEEEE's" argument.Floppy_Jim

A game is a game. They should all be treated equal.

I wasn't aware that Braid is coming to the PC, but still. It's another AAA game that the 360 has over the PS3.

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Perhaps the mods can clear this up, but I don't think small downloadable games actually count in the whole "Which console has more AAAAAAAEEEEEE's" argument.MortalDecay

A game is a game. They should all be treated equal.

I wasn't aware that Braid is coming to the PC, but still. It's another AAA game that the 360 has over the PS3.

Should they? Alrighty then. As I said, maybe a mod should clear this up.

Someone should make a poll that says, "ARE ARCADE GAME SCORES COMPARABLE TO FULL GAME SCORES?"

Seriously, I dont think they should, but whatever.

Would Braid be AAA if it cost 60 bucks? No. Diferent scales dude.Eddie-Vedder

Gamespot is one site that does not bring in retail value when they judge games.

That argument will not work here.

Why has Braid been skipped as a AAA exclusive for the 360?

Sure, it's a Xbox Live Arcade game, but it's still a game. It's no more less of a game than MGS4.

Did cows just get nervous, and demand that Live games cannot count because it doesn't cost $60?

MortalDecay

Because arcade games arn't rated at the same level as retail games. If braid were a 60 dollar retail game it wouldn't of gotten close to a 9

Why has Braid been skipped as a AAA exclusive for the 360?

Sure, it's a Xbox Live Arcade game, but it's still a game. It's no more less of a game than MGS4.

Did cows just get nervous, and demand that Live games cannot count because it doesn't cost $60?

MortalDecay

The official reason is bolded, but your last sentence holds water, too.

Because you wouldn't pay 60 dollars for it thats whyAll_that_is_Man

Banjo doesnt count aswell?

[QUOTE="All_that_is_Man"]Because you wouldn't pay 60 dollars for it thats whyPAL360

Banjo doesnt count aswell?

Would you pay 60 for banjo? If so then I guess its worth it...I wouldn't the demo was trash

Why has Braid been skipped as a AAA exclusive for the 360?

Sure, it's a Xbox Live Arcade game, but it's still a game. It's no more less of a game than MGS4.

Did cows just get nervous, and demand that Live games cannot count because it doesn't cost $60?

MortalDecay

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="All_that_is_Man"]Because you wouldn't pay 60 dollars for it thats whyAll_that_is_Man

Banjo doesnt count aswell?

Would you pay 60 for banjo? If so then I guess its worth it...I wouldn't the demo was trash

IMO the banjo demo was great and i played the old ones

And i think game prices are proportional to their size and not their quality. Thats why i think braid should be considered an AAAE. You get what you pay, right?

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]Would Braid be AAA if it cost 60 bucks? No. Diferent scales dude.Jaysonguy

Gamespot is one site that does not bring in retail value when they judge games.

That argument will not work here.

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]Would Braid be AAA if it cost 60 bucks? No. Diferent scales dude.Jaysonguy

Gamespot is one site that does not bring in retail value when they judge games.

That argument will not work here.

"It is impossible to ignore Braid's price point. At 1,200 Microsoft points ($15), it is one of the most expensive games for the Xbox Live Arcade service. But do not let a few extra dollars deter you from an exemplary experience that can rival many full-price, retail games. Braid is worth every penny."

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/braid/review.html

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]Would Braid be AAA if it cost 60 bucks? No. Diferent scales dude.Jaysonguy

Gamespot is one site that does not bring in retail value when they judge games.

That argument will not work here.

Yes they do ....

Braid been skipped as a exclusive for the 360 because it lacks depth and is one of the worst games this gen.

Sure, it's a Xbox Live Arcade game, but it's still a game. It's no more less of a game than MGS4.

Did cows just get nervous, and demand that Live games cannot count because it doesn't cost $60?

MortalDecay

um what?

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

Braid been skipped as a exclusive for the 360 because it lacks depth and is one of the worst games this gen.

Sure, it's a Xbox Live Arcade game, but it's still a game. It's no more less of a game than MGS4.

Did cows just get nervous, and demand that Live games cannot count because it doesn't cost $60?

waahammur

um what?

so if people had a choice to only play 2 video games braid or mgs4 i think almost everyone would pick mgs4

Someone should make a poll that says, "ARE ARCADE GAME SCORES COMPARABLE TO FULL GAME SCORES?"

Seriously, I dont think they should, but whatever.

carljohnson3456

I made a poll asking people what they thought of the matter.

Edit: Still, the results are hardly conclusive.

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]Would Braid be AAA if it cost 60 bucks? No. Diferent scales dude.Jaysonguy

Gamespot is one site that does not bring in retail value when they judge games.

That argument will not work here.

I really have no idea where you got that.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]Would Braid be AAA if it cost 60 bucks? No. Diferent scales dude.Deep_Thinker_1

Gamespot is one site that does not bring in retail value when they judge games.

That argument will not work here.

"It is impossible to ignore Braid's price point. At 1,200 Microsoft points ($15), it is one of the most expensive games for the Xbox Live Arcade service. But do not let a few extra dollars deter you from an exemplary experience that can rival many full-price, retail games. Braid is worth every penny."

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/braid/review.html

Also:

Warhead's single-player campaign should take you no more than six hours or so to complete, but not only does it invite multiple play-throughs, it costs only $30--and doesn't require you to own the original.Kevin VanOrd

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/crysiswarhead/review.html?tag=tabs;reviews

Perhaps the mods can clear this up, but I don't think small downloadable games actually count in the whole "Which console has more AAAAAAAEEEEEE's" argument.Floppy_Jim

What logic did you use to figure that out?

If Wipeout HD counts then Braid and GW obviously count.TOAO_Cyrus1

wipeout HD doesn't count, tho to me it seems like more of a retail game than braid and geowars

If Wipeout HD counts then Braid and GW obviously count.TOAO_Cyrus1

Wipeout HD doesn't count. No retail version available.

[QUOTE="waahammur"]

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

Braid been skipped as a exclusive for the 360 because it lacks depth and is one of the worst games this gen.

Sure, it's a Xbox Live Arcade game, but it's still a game. It's no more less of a game than MGS4.

Did cows just get nervous, and demand that Live games cannot count because it doesn't cost $60?

waahammur

um what?

so if people had a choice to only play 2 video games braid or mgs4 i think almost everyone would pick mgs4

*Facepalm*

lol. That's not what he means. He means to ask why people always tend to look down on them as if they aren't proper games.

Usually Live games and PSN games have lower standards than retail games.wado-karate

Which I think should go away. A game is a game.

[QUOTE="wado-karate"]Usually Live games and PSN games have lower standards than retail games.UnamedThing

Which I think should go away. A game is a game.

Go and convince the journalist that. Most of them take into account the price of the game. So go ahead and tell them to start judging each game at 60$price point and you will see how many downloadable games will be 5/10.

Because you wouldn't pay 60 dollars for it thats whyAll_that_is_Man

I got Forza 2 and Halo 3 for 20 bucks each new, so that means those to games should not be counted as AAAE Am I Rite???

[QUOTE="wado-karate"]Usually Live games and PSN games have lower standards than retail games.UnamedThing

Which I think should go away. A game is a game.

Then they will never even get above AA.

This monetary argument makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER.

Should we rate Guitar Hero and Rock Band as Godly 11/10's just because the game is nothing without the guitar or drumset? Of course not because this argument MAKES NO SENSE. My $10 Braid purchase was better than my $65 MGSIV purchase. That's what a review is, to let me know if I should purchase or pass.

If we start counting in DL games then the Wii would start pawning any console ever made. If you can accept we will happily accept Braid, just 1 game as a AAAE and let the Wii pawn everything and anything.KinderChimp

Anyone with a computer above 500mhz can play any of the Wii games on the VC through an emulator. NONE of those count.

Why has Braid been skipped as a AAA exclusive for the 360?

Sure, it's a Xbox Live Arcade game, but it's still a game. It's no more less of a game than MGS4.

Did cows just get nervous, and demand that Live games cannot count because it doesn't cost $60?

MortalDecay

if you want to compare DL games and full disc games then you have to remember that DL games are critiqued to a different standard than disc games.

imagine if braid was sold for $60...would it still be a 9.5?

[QUOTE="All_that_is_Man"]Because you wouldn't pay 60 dollars for it thats whyacekall

I got Forza 2 and Halo 3 for 20 bucks each new, so that means those to games should not be counted as AAAE Am I Rite???

are you serious?? where is the logic in your post? seriuously think about what you just tried to argue