Fable III Dev Lobs a Few Word Bombs at the Haters

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#1 killzonexbox
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By most accounts, including Susan Arendt's, Fable III was no masterpiece. It was good, sure, the game had some great features while others that were just annoying. Both the critical and commercial reception to the game was a collective, "Meh." True to the shining example of Lionhead Studio's fearless leader - Peter Molyneux - lead combat designer Mike West had some choice words for those who didn't like his game, while talking about what PC gamers can expect with the port that is available today.

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Fable 3 was horrific though. Such a piss poor attempt at making a decent game.

Wait. He's saying it's an Co-Op RPG? Sure Peter said it wasn't an RPG at all, anymore ...

Can't we just all call it crap?

"This is definitely the best Fable PC - it's much better than Fable 1,"

LOL! Fable 1 is better in almost everyway, dont be silly.

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Did that guy honestly say that they are the only ones making a Co Op Online RPG? LMAO...... Its nothing to do with Lord of the Rings either, this sums lionhead up instantly. They make good creative engines, but thier games design team its just completely bad.
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#4 calvinsora
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People that can't handle criticism usually go to the age-old excuse of "they didn't understand it". Ugh, how petty.

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http://angryjoeshow.com/2011/01/top-reasons-fable-iii/

Angry joe's top 32 reasons why he hates fable III. All legitimate reasons aswell, the video illustrates what makes the game unbearable to me.


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"This is definitely the best Fable PC - it's much better than Fable 1," West said.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :lol:

No. :|

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[QUOTE="Birdy09"]Did that guy honestly say that they are the only ones making a Co Op Online RPG? LMAO...... Its nothing to do with Lord of the Rings either, this sums lionhead up instantly. They make good creative engines, but thier games design team its just completely bad.

Clearly you read wrong as that is NOT what he said. He simply said co-op, not online RPG's. And yes they are pretty much one of the only co-op RPG games.
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Fable 2&3 are both crap.
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Fable 3 wasn't as bad as the haters make it out to be.

It has the best main and side quests of the series, the combat is good and satasfying (too easy though), and it's probably got the most customization of all Fable games.

Still they simplified a lot that they didn't need too.

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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="Birdy09"]Did that guy honestly say that they are the only ones making a Co Op Online RPG? LMAO...... Its nothing to do with Lord of the Rings either, this sums lionhead up instantly. They make good creative engines, but thier games design team its just completely bad.

Clearly you read wrong as that is NOT what he said. He simply said co-op, not online RPG's. And yes they are pretty much one of the only co-op RPG games.

On consoles maybe? how is it even focused on Co-OP... its quite clearly focused on Single Player with add in Co-OP.... so hes talking crap once again, having the option doesnt change its genre.
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"The vocal talents are something that he wishes got more credit instead of some random FPS. "I'm slightly disappointed we haven't won any audio awards to be honest, because our music's great, our vocal talent's great - and then you'll see a standard shooter get an audio award. I just think that's because they're more popular than us" Jelly...
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[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="Birdy09"]Did that guy honestly say that they are the only ones making a Co Op Online RPG? LMAO...... Its nothing to do with Lord of the Rings either, this sums lionhead up instantly. They make good creative engines, but thier games design team its just completely bad.

Clearly you read wrong as that is NOT what he said. He simply said co-op, not online RPG's. And yes they are pretty much one of the only co-op RPG games.

On consoles maybe? how is it even focused on Co-OP... its quite clearly focused on Single Player with add in Co-OP.... so hes talking crap once again, having the option doesnt change its genre.

What other co-op RPG is there?
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"This is definitely the best Fable PC - it's much better than Fable 1,"

LOL! Fable 1 is better in almost everyway, dont be silly.

-Snooze-

Now that me me LOL hard, Fable 1 is easily the best in the series.

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[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"] Clearly you read wrong as that is NOT what he said. He simply said co-op, not online RPG's. And yes they are pretty much one of the only co-op RPG games.justforlotr2004
On consoles maybe? how is it even focused on Co-OP... its quite clearly focused on Single Player with add in Co-OP.... so hes talking crap once again, having the option doesnt change its genre.

What other co-op RPG is there?

There are absolutely pleanty.http://www.co-optimus.com/system.php?id=4&sort=csc&direction=DESC

In the very beggining of the list there is the Dungeon Seige games and Neverwinter Nights for a start, NWN does CO-OP to a much better level than that dog turd of a game fable III.

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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="Birdy09"] On consoles maybe? how is it even focused on Co-OP... its quite clearly focused on Single Player with add in Co-OP.... so hes talking crap once again, having the option doesnt change its genre.Birdy09

What other co-op RPG is there?

There are absolutely pleanty.http://www.co-optimus.com/system.php?id=4&sort=csc&direction=DESC

In the very beggining of the list there is the Dungeon Seige games and Neverwinter Nights for a start, NWN does CO-OP to a much better level than that dog turd of a game fable III.

Ah true, I forgot about DS and NWN. Although they are sorta different type of games than Fable is. Another one I forgot about of course is Diablo, although again it's a different type of game, but still an RPG.
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YOU CAN'T DIE .... U ... CAN'T ... DIE

most casual RPG in gaming history.

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Why did they even bother with the PC version anyway. 1 year later for a game that was meh in the first place. The average rpg player will not get it and the "hardcore" fable fan already got it for 360 plus fable 2 is missing in this platform. A waste of time and money methinks.

and seriously, what were they thinking with that combat system. Who was their target audience.

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Why did they even bother with the PC version anyway. 1 year later for a game that was meh in the first place. The average rpg player will not get it and the "hardcore" fable fan already got it for 360 plus fable 2 is missing in this platform. A waste of time and money methinks.

and seriously, what were they thinking with that combat system. Who was their target audience.

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And releasing it on the same day as a very hyped PC RPG came out, The Witcher 2. Everything Lionhead did was just plain backwards, but ofcourse in the end it will be PC Gamers fault somehow.
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YOU CAN'T DIE .... U ... CAN'T ... DIE

most casual RPG in gaming history.

rasengan2552
The problem with that, well not the only problem, but one of the problems was that they cut the feature they had planned for it. You were suppose to choose between losing experience or becoming scared/disfigured from your battle wounds. It's obviously not a fix for the problem, but it would of gave some more dynamic to the "death" system.
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Never played Fable III, but judging by the good but overrated Fable I, and the terrible Fable II, Fable III probably sucks :P. The combat designer is speaking in this? Well tell him to stop sucking at his job lol. Fable III is stupidly easy, boring, and has awful animations and effects.

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Never played Fable III, but judging by the good but overrated Fable I, and the terrible Fable II, Fable III probably sucks :P. The combat designer is speaking in this? Well tell him to stop sucking at his job lol. Fable III is stupidly easy, boring, and has awful animations and effects.

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lol I'm not defending them, but that makes no sense.

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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

Never played Fable III, but judging by the good but overrated Fable I, and the terrible Fable II, Fable III probably sucks :P. The combat designer is speaking in this? Well tell him to stop sucking at his job lol. Fable III is stupidly easy, boring, and has awful animations and effects.

justforlotr2004

lol I'm not defending them, but that makes no sense.

You can't have an opinion if you never played the game before. :P

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Fable 3 was horrific though. Such a piss poor attempt at making a decent game.

Wait. He's saying it's an Co-Op RPG? Sure Peter said it wasn't an RPG at all, anymore ...

Can't we just all call it crap?

"This is definitely the best Fable PC - it's much better than Fable 1,"

LOL! Fable 1 is better in almost everyway, dont be silly.

-Snooze-

what a surprise, you're the first post. do you go out of your way to find fable related topics?

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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

Never played Fable III, but judging by the good but overrated Fable I, and the terrible Fable II, Fable III probably sucks :P. The combat designer is speaking in this? Well tell him to stop sucking at his job lol. Fable II is stupidly easy, boring, and has awful animations and effects.

justforlotr2004

lol I'm not defending them, but that makes no sense.

lmao your right, I meant II at the end :P. Stupid roman numerals.

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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

Never played Fable III, but judging by the good but overrated Fable I, and the terrible Fable II, Fable III probably sucks :P. The combat designer is speaking in this? Well tell him to stop sucking at his job lol. Fable II is stupidly easy, boring, and has awful animations and effects.

NaveedLife

lol I'm not defending them, but that makes no sense.

lmao your right, I meant II at the end :P. Stupid roman numerals.

lol yeah I was pretty certain you did, just wanted to mess with you a bit for it. :P
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#26 -Snooze-
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

Fable 3 was horrific though. Such a piss poor attempt at making a decent game.

Wait. He's saying it's an Co-Op RPG? Sure Peter said it wasn't an RPG at all, anymore ...

Can't we just all call it crap?

"This is definitely the best Fable PC - it's much better than Fable 1,"

LOL! Fable 1 is better in almost everyway, dont be silly.

lazerface216

what a surprise, you're the first post. do you go out of your way to find fable related topics?

Fable topics are very rare ... I have no idea what you're talking about.

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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

"This is definitely the best Fable PC - it's much better than Fable 1,"

LOL! Fable 1 is better in almost everyway, dont be silly.

mitu123

Now that me me LOL hard, Fable 1 is easily the best in the series.

Haha! How could he even say that? Fable 1 got so much better. Fable is a shining example of what happens when developers decide to change things up and go the WRONG direction. Sometimes, devs, you should just improve on what you already have. If they would have made a game with Fable 3's graphics and Fable 1's.. well... everything else, they would have had a game that was better than Fable 1. As it is, though, all they got was a game that was slightly better than Fable 2 and that's saying very very little.
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I wish they would hear what we are saying, and accept the criticism. The worst part about the Fable Series is they often take away the things we like about the series, ignore the thing we want in the series, and add things we don't care for. My biggest issue with Fable lll, and Fable ll was oversimplified combat. So my sword can grow wings? What do I care if I can never ever die?
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I wish they would hear what we are saying, and accept the criticism. The worst part about the Fable Series is they often take away the things we like about the series, ignore the thing we want in the series, and add things we don't care for. My biggest issue with Fable lll, and Fable ll was oversimplified combat. So my sword can grow wings? What do I care if I can never ever die?BadNewsBen
That's exactly what they do wrong. They change stuff for the worst. Hell, I remember them taking out the armor and stats with Fable 2. Everyone was upset about it so they gave you that stupid looking gold armor with the DLC. WTF? What was worse was their excuse. They claimed that as long as you have armor with stats then people will just wear the best armor and not experiment. lol. I actually sacrificed valuable stats so I could wear whatever the hell I wanted. It's all a part of the RPG meta game.... that they completely eliminated.
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my only problems with fable 3 are

the menu system

interacting became a emote contest

Over simplification

Easy combat

my good points

Combat system felt good and really fluid but held back with its easy difficulty

Story was enjoyable (good nods to the industrial revolution in britain and general british pop culture in a few ways)

the voice acting

Some of the area's in the game looked immense sometimes.

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[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

Fable 3 was horrific though. Such a piss poor attempt at making a decent game.

Wait. He's saying it's an Co-Op RPG? Sure Peter said it wasn't an RPG at all, anymore ...

Can't we just all call it crap?

"This is definitely the best Fable PC - it's much better than Fable 1,"

LOL! Fable 1 is better in almost everyway, dont be silly.

-Snooze-

what a surprise, you're the first post. do you go out of your way to find fable related topics?

Fable topics are very rare ... I have no idea what you're talking about.

I think that's what he meant by going out of your way to find them. As rare as they are you're usually there to assert yourself as the biggest Fable hater as soon as one pops up.

I'm not sure why Fable 3 got so much hate. Molyneux actually didn't hype it up THAT much, and for the most part I thought the game was a step in the right direction after that clunky and unpolished mess that Fable 2 was. Fable 3 actually deserved it's score on Gamespot, unlike Fable 2.

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[QUOTE="BadNewsBen"]I wish they would hear what we are saying, and accept the criticism. The worst part about the Fable Series is they often take away the things we like about the series, ignore the thing we want in the series, and add things we don't care for. My biggest issue with Fable lll, and Fable ll was oversimplified combat. So my sword can grow wings? What do I care if I can never ever die?MrSelf-Destruct
That's exactly what they do wrong. They change stuff for the worst. Hell, I remember them taking out the armor and stats with Fable 2. Everyone was upset about it so they gave you that stupid looking gold armor with the DLC. WTF? What was worse was their excuse. They claimed that as long as you have armor with stats then people will just wear the best armor and not experiment. lol. I actually sacrificed valuable stats so I could wear whatever the hell I wanted. It's all a part of the RPG meta game.... that they completely eliminated.

It just doesn't make sense. They must have had some kind of issue making the transition to the 360. Its the only possible explanation I can think of, because they simplified everything after Fable 1.
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YOU CAN'T DIE .... U ... CAN'T ... DIE

most casual RPG in gaming history.

rasengan2552

This is so true. Fable 2 and 3 sucks so much that its not even funny.

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What was worse was their excuse. They claimed that as long as you have armor with stats then people will just wear the best armor and not experiment. lol. I actually sacrificed valuable stats so I could wear whatever the hell I wanted. It's all a part of the RPG meta game.... that they completely eliminated.

MrSelf-Destruct

So instead of creating a variety of armour types, each with different advantages and disadvantages ... They just removed it comepletey.

Awesome devs I must say

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#35 Darksiders666
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As a game developer you need to be able to accept complaints about what was wrong with your game, if you can't you won't improve the next game. Fable III had a weak story, framerate issues, slowdown, terrible combat, overpowered magic, overall easy, too simplified, too much slowmotion, glitches, weak ending, and wasn't even an rpg anymore. Anyway he said that Fable III is the only other co-op rpg (isn't an rpg anyway) but quote me if I'm wrong didn't Two Worlds 2 have co-op.

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When someone criticizes your work, sometimes it's a tough pill to swallow. I think they are od'n. :P
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

what a surprise, you're the first post. do you go out of your way to find fable related topics?

Karnage108

Fable topics are very rare ... I have no idea what you're talking about.

I think that's what he meant by going out of your way to find them. As rare as they are you're usually there to assert yourself as the biggest Fable hater as soon as one pops up.

I'm not sure why Fable 3 got so much hate. Molyneux actually didn't hype it up THAT much, and for the most part I thought the game was a step in the right direction after that clunky and unpolished mess that Fable 2 was. Fable 3 actually deserved it's score on Gamespot, unlike Fable 2.

Awwm shucks, why am I being so modest :oops:

I do so love to bash the awful series that is Fable (Minus the first game, that was excellent)

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#38 Hexagon_777
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We're making a co-operative role-playing game - there aren't any co-operative role-playing games out there, we're the only one.Mike West
I don't understand. Isn't every MMORPG like that?

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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="Birdy09"] On consoles maybe? how is it even focused on Co-OP... its quite clearly focused on Single Player with add in Co-OP.... so hes talking crap once again, having the option doesnt change its genre.Birdy09
What other co-op RPG is there?

There are absolutely pleanty.http://www.co-optimus.com/system.php?id=4&sort=csc&direction=DESC

In the very beggining of the list there is the Dungeon Seige games and Neverwinter Nights for a start, NWN does CO-OP to a much better level than that dog turd of a game fable III.

My first thought was Neverwinter Nights as well.

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Fable III was a good game. I don't know why people hate on it so much. :?
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#41 rasengan2552
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Fable III was a good game. I don't know why people hate on it so much. :?khoofia_pika
2 pages - 40 posts and you still can't figure out why people don't like it ???

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Fable III was a good game. I don't know why people hate on it so much. :?khoofia_pika

It was a good game, but its faults are numerous. And the voice acting was average at best. Maybe FPS don't deserve the award, but neither does Fable. For the same reason Dora the Explorer doesn't win awards for voice acting either.

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#43 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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Oh so now they're calling it a Role Playing Game now? They where intent on calling it an Action Adventure title before. :|

Tbh Fable 2/3 are just way too primitive to be RPGs. RPG gamers like a little depth in their games.

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#44 stvee101
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Fable 3 an RPG ? d'oh

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#45 EzekyleAbadon
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[QUOTE="rasengan2552"]

YOU CAN'T DIE .... U ... CAN'T ... DIE

most casual RPG in gaming history.

pppjjj

This is so true. Fable 2 and 3 sucks so much that its not even funny.

And yet I didn't die in Fable 1, not even once. In Fable 2 I "died"... once :P Anyways, I just played the Fable III demo and I think it is a pretty decent hack&slashy game. But a RPG... No.
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#46 KalDurenik
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LOL Fable 3 is bad average at best... If you say more then that... well you have not played alot of games. Everything from combat flow, combat balance, UI, item handling, npc interaction, quests, story, world, graphics (and some more but well one could continue all day) is from average down to horrible (DESTROY ALL COPIES).

"Generally what happens when there's any information about Fable or about Peter Molyneux, you get a complete black and white - pardon the pun - split of forum replies. Half of the people, whatever it's about - if Peter has made the most sensible comment about games development ever - just spout obscenities and terrible, ridiculous things," West said

Sorry but you over hype your own game... Most of the time its the community that hype a game... However whenever Peter say anything you can remove 90% of that. You should start by releasing true information about your grand dreams of a game.

But it's the people who criticize the story that really bug him. "People saying the story wasn't very good was unfair. It's an interesting situation of you gather people together and then defeating the main bad guy. It's a pretty good story and it's pretty fun," he said.

A classic "No my child would never do anything like that" Just like this game is their "child" ofc they are going to see it in the best light. No the story is not very good. It do not make alot of sense. First you have one main enemy... Then he is like "lol i did it to save everyone... What? I could have told people about the darkness that will come and consume the world... Noooooo who care about telling people". Then you have the darkness itself and that fight lasted well... not a very long time... so little time that i was like "what? that was it?"

Part of the problem may be that gamers don't know what they are playing. "It's a frustrating situation to be in because we make good games, but people expect something that no one else is doing," said West. "We're making a co-operative role-playing game - there aren't any co-operative role-playing games out there, we're the only one."

I remember hearing that before... Oh yes other failed / average games that are meant to be good (hint DA2 as a example). Congrats... To bad the Co-op is so bad that you should not even make it in the first place. If you cant make the single player experience good... Dont meddle in multiplayer... Even more when you make it work like it do in the fable games. Also you are making a adventure game with bad co-op. The game is not good... Its like the dev team was sitting there on a meeting and picking ALL the bad ideas they could think off and then put them into the game.

The difference in tone is also something West doesn't think people understood. "[Fable III is] a different type of game: it's more of a fun, comedic TV show than a serious Lord of the Rings film. I think a lot of people that play it think it's a Lord of the Rings - and it isn't.

Well for the love of god make it fun then... I did not laugh a single time in the entire game... I did not even break a smile. Oh also... I remember "We want to make the game into the best rpg ever" or something like that.

The vocal talents are something that he wishes got more credit instead of some random FPS. "I'm slightly disappointed we haven't won any audio awards to be honest, because our music's great, our vocal talent's great - and then you'll see a standard shooter get an audio award. I just think that's because they're more popular than us."

Sadly... Nothing stood out when i was playing the game. I did not find any of the music catchy... Sure SOME of the voice acting was okey... But they were quiet far between. But no award winning. To do that you need something catchy, something that fit with the game theme and something people will remember and say "That music track is awesome".

So how did it work adapting the game to the PC controls? "We didn't want to make it feel like a port. The main thing was to completely redo the control system. It's a modal system now where you switch between modes and the mouse buttons do different things," he said. "The second big change is the engine, with the high resolution and the 3D as well. Fable and Albion have never looked better for anyone on any machine. The Xbox guys got it first, but the PC guys are going to have a much better version.

Congrats... but you promised gold and gave random stones that you picked up from the ground outside. You did not even bother to fix the bugs that have been around since Fable 2. Let alone loading times, the horrible ui... the horrible 3D ****ing UI (who fell and hurt their head for this idea?).

"This is definitely the best Fable PC - it's much better than Fable 1," West said.

Sadly... None of the fable games are super special. That said i had more fable 1 then Fable 2 and 3 Fable 1 also had lots of potential that got wasted sadly. Even if that is your opinion... Well... Being better then another game when both are in average of below... Well its not something to cheer over.
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#47 BadNewsBen
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Fable III was a good game. I don't know why people hate on it so much. :?khoofia_pika
I liked it too, but there is a lot to not like about it. 1) You cant ever die 2) All former RPG elements the game had, they ditched 3) The story doesn't take itself seriously. 4) Lionhead promises things, and then doesn't deliver 5) They take things out of the former Fables that actually worked.
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#48 Jynxzor
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If you want Fable to be taken seriously stop having your dog find used condoms, oh sorry your not trying to be a serious game? Then don't be expected to have anything you do taken seriously. Also next time you should muzzle Peter, he always overates his games and then turns around and sais they sucked. The man made some great games in the past but he is obviously on the wrong train with Fable make a new IP man, thats one way to step away from the stigma.
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#49 Dr_Snood
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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"] Clearly you read wrong as that is NOT what he said. He simply said co-op, not online RPG's. And yes they are pretty much one of the only co-op RPG games.

On consoles maybe? how is it even focused on Co-OP... its quite clearly focused on Single Player with add in Co-OP.... so hes talking crap once again, having the option doesnt change its genre.

What other co-op RPG is there?

Borderlands
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Part of the problem may be that gamers don't know what they are playing. "It's a frustrating situation to be in because we make good games, but people expect something that no one else is doing," said West. "We're making a co-operative role-playing game - there aren't any co-operative role-playing games out there, we're the only one."An bitter person

This comment is so absurd on so many levels.

First of all, how to they gather that people except something no one else is doing? People do actually except developers to somewhat deliver on their hype, but that doesn't mean they expect something revolutionary.

There's no other co-op role playing games out there? Really?

Also, the "gamers don't know what they are playing" is just the "let's insult gamers intelligence because they don't like our game" response.