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[QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"]graphically it wasnt the best but if i put my mind back to the 360 launch it was still impressivegoddamn_
PDZ and PGR 3 had much better visuals. DOA 4 just better
im not disagreeing with you- im just saying that COD4 in Nov 2005 was regarded as a very good looking game on the Xbox360
[QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"]graphically it wasnt the best but if i put my mind back to the 360 launch it was still impressivegoddamn_
PDZ and PGR 3 had much better visuals. DOA 4 just better
in my opinion PDZ and PGR3 really showed what next gen had in store...with motion blur HDR lighting...extensive shadowing ...and lots of texturing and little details...but cod2 was way moe fun than both
DOA4 dissapointed me visually...i think it's bc it looked soo damn good on the original xbox that it seemed like the improvements were minor
in my opinion PDZ and PGR3 really showed what next gen had in store...with motion blur HDR lighting...extensive shadowing ...and lots of texturing and little details...but cod2 was way moe fun than bothi_Pwn_TheVuhJay
Depends on your taste. To me COD 2 was a dumb shooting gallery a far worse then first COD.
PDZ is one of the most original smart shooters, what NOLF should be in the end of 2005 if Monolith didn't switched to low quality horror shooters like FEAR and Condemned.
[QUOTE="i_Pwn_TheVuhJay"]in my opinion PDZ and PGR3 really showed what next gen had in store...with motion blur HDR lighting...extensive shadowing ...and lots of texturing and little details...but cod2 was way moe fun than bothgoddamn_
Depends on your taste. To me COD 2 was a dumb shooting gallery a far worse then first COD.
PDZ is one of the most original smart shooters, what NOLF should be in the end of 2005 if Monolith didn't switched to low quality horror shooters like FEAR and Condemned.
i also LOVED PDZ....it felt like a much fuller game to me....i guess that the intensity of COD2 is one of it's shining points.....lol but i still can't get over PDZ's shotgun reload haha....it look s great
i guess that the intensity of COD2 is one of it's shining points.....i_Pwn_TheVuhJay
I hate endless enemies. When they started to appear gameplay is dead for me. It feels like you are playing some cheap arcade from the middle of 80-th but with modern graphics
thats an unsubstansiated opinion, if you had cared to read up or give a dam and stop mooing you would know the problems with mass effect were nothing to do with power. or should we all bring up all the games with poor framerates on the ps3?? does that mean that the ps3 has reached its max power? no so stop this blind posting
I can't understand why people keep making these threads; there's absolutely no factual basis to any of them.
What we actually know so far:
1) The best-looking PS3 games are more or less equivalent to the best-looking 360 games (while this technically isn't a fact, I think most people can agree on it). Why is this important? Because so far the PS3 hasn't shown anything that the 360 can't do, so it's completely inane to be arguing that the 360 can't touch the PS3. When PS3 games are released that absolutely blow away every 360 game, then this argument can be brought up.
2) The PS3 has the edge in processing power, and in storage capacity. However, the 360 has the edge in GPU power, and has a slight edge in disc read speeds. All the power the PS3 has is bottlenecked thanks to the RAM configuration of the system; while theoretically the Cell + RSX can pump out a lot of graphical goodness, the RAM bottleneck slows this up quite a bit, which is why no matter how powerful the PS3 is graphically, it's not going to be able to visually make a huge leap over the 360. Processing power is great, and having 25-50 gigs of space to store data on is great too, but a huge part of great graphics is great textures, and the GPU's RAM is all-important in this area.
3) Multiplats or ports in which the 360 is the lead console will generally look or run slightly better on the 360 (as the PS3 is harder to program for, and thus harder to port to). Multiplats or ports in which the PS3 is the lead will either be about equal, or will slightly favor the PS3. Either way, there's very little difference, which should tell you something.
4) One game doesn't make a console better. Whether Gears or Uncharted is better looking is irrelevant, because every game that comes out isn't going to look like either one. The fact that 2 games developed in the respective 1st years of both the PS3 and 360 look so good (and the fact that we still debate which one looks better) should also give people an idea of how similar the two consoles are functioning right now. As we get further into this gen, the disparity between good and bad looking games should be even greater than it is now, but so far, we haven't been given any reason to assume that either console will truly push ahead of the other. The 360 will have Gears 2, Alan Wake and Mass Effect 2 among others, and the PS3 will have Killzone 2, FFXIII and MGS4. Which of these games will look the best will most likely come up to preference, and for that reason, this argument will never be conclusively decided.
what he saidI can't understand why people keep making these threads; there's absolutely no factual basis to any of them.
What we actually know so far:
1) The best-looking PS3 games are more or less equivalent to the best-looking 360 games (while this technically isn't a fact, I think most people can agree on it). Why is this important? Because so far the PS3 hasn't shown anything that the 360 can't do, so it's completely inane to be arguing that the 360 can't touch the PS3. When PS3 games are released that absolutely blow away every 360 game, then this argument can be brought up.
2) The PS3 has the edge in processing power, and in storage capacity. However, the 360 has the edge in GPU power, and has a slight edge in disc read speeds. All the power the PS3 has is bottlenecked thanks to the RAM configuration of the system; while theoretically the Cell + RSX can pump out a lot of graphical goodness, the RAM bottleneck slows this up quite a bit, which is why no matter how powerful the PS3 is graphically, it's not going to be able to visually make a huge leap over the 360. Processing power is great, and having 25-50 gigs of space to store data on is great too, but a huge part of great graphics is great textures, and the GPU's RAM is all-important in this area.
3) Multiplats or ports in which the 360 is the lead console will generally look or run slightly better on the 360 (as the PS3 is harder to program for, and thus harder to port to). Multiplats or ports in which the PS3 is the lead will either be about equal, or will slightly favor the PS3. Either way, there's very little difference, which should tell you something.
4) One game doesn't make a console better. Whether Gears or Uncharted is better looking is irrelevant, because every game that comes out isn't going to look like either one. The fact that 2 games developed in the respective 1st years of both the PS3 and 360 look so good (and the fact that we still debate which one looks better) should also give people an idea of how similar the two consoles are functioning right now. As we get further into this gen, the disparity between good and bad looking games should be even greater than it is now, but so far, we haven't been given any reason to assume that either console will truly push ahead of the other. The 360 will have Gears 2, Alan Wake and Mass Effect 2 among others, and the PS3 will have Killzone 2, FFXIII and MGS4. Which of these games will look the best will most likely come up to preference, and for that reason, this argument will never be conclusively decided.
SeanBond
so not only are you a coward by not responding to posts but you made a fake account in order to be one... awesome day for you... 360 is the graphics king, your precious ps3 hasn't been able to out do a 2 year old gears of war...tell me what game on the 360 (exclusively) have ran at 60 fps, ran at a native 1080p resolution signal, and was able to do a 2 player split screen all at the same time? I hate to break it to ya, but the 360 "graphical capabilities" are HEAVILY being called out and so far, they ain't responding
colmusterd28
I love it how people who have no clue about games development or even basic knowledge of video games (in this particular case) come out with 'guaranteed' facts about the future of gaming.CwlHeddwyn
Not to mention the absence of even the most basic skills in grammar....
[QUOTE="colmusterd28"]so not only are you a coward by not responding to posts but you made a fake account in order to be one... awesome day for you... 360 is the graphics king, your precious ps3 hasn't been able to out do a 2 year old gears of war...tell me what game on the 360 (exclusively) have ran at 60 fps, ran at a native 1080p resolution signal, and was able to do a 2 player split screen all at the same time? I hate to break it to ya, but the 360 "graphical capabilities" are HEAVILY being called out and so far, they ain't responding
ermacness
No offense, but neither console is going to be pushing out a lot of games like that. Remember how Resistance was supposed to run at 1080p before the PS3's launch? Remember how only one or two games at launch were actually in 1080p (NBA 07, and I can't remember if there was another)? Neither the PS3 nor the 360 has the power required to have all games natively run at 1080p/60fps, period. Every once in a while you'll see one, but not surprisingly, it's never the best looking games, and never the ones with the most characters on screen at once.
[QUOTE="colmusterd28"]so not only are you a coward by not responding to posts but you made a fake account in order to be one... awesome day for you... 360 is the graphics king, your precious ps3 hasn't been able to out do a 2 year old gears of war...tell me what game on the 360 (exclusively) have ran at 60 fps, ran at a native 1080p resolution signal, and was able to do a 2 player split screen all at the same time? I hate to break it to ya, but the 360 "graphical capabilities" are HEAVILY being called out and so far, they ain't responding
ermacness
Developers for BOTH platforms are opting for lesser resolutions so that they can employ more effects in their games.
Underpowered? LOL!! That's what most of the multiplate games that were compared on the XBox 360 and PS3 by both IGN and Gamespot favored the XBox 360 version right. Xbox 360 stuggling? Last I checked it was still in 2nd place after being on the marker for almost 3 years. If that's stuggling, I think most console makers would be happy with that. The fact is the Xbox 360 is still selling exceptionally well and will do so for the next 2-3yrs. The Xbox 360 still sells more software then both the Wii and PS3 and at the end of the day, this is what developers looks for when decided what system to make a game on. There are a LOTS of 360 titles in the works for 2008 and 2009. Gears of Wars 2 will prove that the system still has untapped power and by the end of the year, we'll see which system is still in LAST PLACE. blackace
While I dont disagree with you that this thread is ridiculous, I have to say that your post was about as ridiculous as the first one. Who cares about last place? Of course the PS3 isnt going to make up that entire year headstart the 360 had all in one year. Besides that, all the consoles are pretty even in terms of sales, except the Wii, which is a good thing because if it wasnt selling so well I think it would have been considered a failure.
tell me what game on the 360 (exclusively) have ran at 60 fps, ran at a native 1080p resolution signal, and was able to do a 2 player split screen all at the same time? I hate to break it to ya, but the 360 "graphical capabilities" are HEAVILY being called out and so far, they ain't responding[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="colmusterd28"]so not only are you a coward by not responding to posts but you made a fake account in order to be one... awesome day for you... 360 is the graphics king, your precious ps3 hasn't been able to out do a 2 year old gears of war...
SeanBond
No offense, but neither console is going to be pushing out a lot of games like that. Remember how Resistance was supposed to run at 1080p before the PS3's launch? Remember how only one or two games at launch were actually in 1080p (NBA 07, and I can't remember if there was another)? Neither the PS3 nor the 360 has the power required to have all games natively run at 1080p/60fps, period. Every once in a while you'll see one, but not surprisingly, it's never the best lookinggames, and never the ones with the most characters on screen at once.
ummm.. yeah, i was talking about GT5p.. yeahtell me what game on the 360 (exclusively) have ran at 60 fps, ran at a native 1080p resolution signal, and was able to do a 2 player split screen all at the same time? I hate to break it to ya, but the 360 "graphical capabilities" are HEAVILY being called out and so far, they ain't responding[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="colmusterd28"]so not only are you a coward by not responding to posts but you made a fake account in order to be one... awesome day for you... 360 is the graphics king, your precious ps3 hasn't been able to out do a 2 year old gears of war...
heretrix
Developers for BOTH platforms are opting for lesser resolutions so that they can employ more effects in their games.
because in a graphics/visual argument, this accomplishment is a HUGE factor and multiplats doesn't really amtter if the other system can do it as well. As of right now, the ps3 have 2 games (exclusively) that runs at a NATIVE 1080p resloution (in which one of those games run at 60 frames) where as the 360 only 2 games that runs at a native 1080p resolution are multiplats[QUOTE="ermacness"]ummm.. yeah, i was talking about GT5p.. yeah
SeanBond
Ummm....yeah, racing games are never the most graphically demanding games, which is why they're always one of the few genres with a chance to run at 60fps...yeah
well than why doesn't forza 2 (in which the graphics for this game was underwhelming to say the least) and PGR4 all run at a native 1080p resolution if racing games are "never the most graphically demanding"?[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Why dont cow's face it that they bought into the hype of teh cell and blu-ray that makes there game superior :lol:BobHipJames
Uncharted>everything released on 360 thus far.
Face that, then we'll talk.
lol, 9.6>>>8.0 nuff said[QUOTE="SeanBond"][QUOTE="ermacness"]ummm.. yeah, i was talking about GT5p.. yeah
ermacness
Ummm....yeah, racing games are never the most graphically demanding games, which is why they're always one of the few genres with a chance to run at 60fps...yeah
well than why doesn't forza 2 (in which the graphics for this game was underwhelming to say the least) and PGR4 all run at a native 1080p resolution if racing games are "never the most graphically demanding"?My guess for Forza is because they wanted to put in lighting effects, and for PGR, they wanted weather effects. This is the same reason Halo 3 runs at 640p, and CoD4 is the same. Don't get me wrong; GT5 looks great, and I'm not knocking it graphically, but your argument would carry much more weight if you were talking about a game like Uncharted or Resistance, both of which do a lot more with a system's hardware than most racing games.
[QUOTE="BobHipJames"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Why dont cow's face it that they bought into the hype of teh cell and blu-ray that makes there game superior :lol:THE_PREZIDENT
Uncharted>everything released on 360 thus far.
Face that, then we'll talk.
lol, 9.6>>>8.0 nuff saidummm.yeah as far as graphics go, that rating comparison really is irrelevant. Sorry[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="SeanBond"][QUOTE="ermacness"]ummm.. yeah, i was talking about GT5p.. yeah
SeanBond
Ummm....yeah, racing games are never the most graphically demanding games, which is why they're always one of the few genres with a chance to run at 60fps...yeah
well than why doesn't forza 2 (in which the graphics for this game was underwhelming to say the least) and PGR4 all run at a native 1080p resolution if racing games are "never the most graphically demanding"?My guess for Forza is because they wanted to put in lighting effects, and for PGR, they wanted weather effects. This is the same reason Halo 3 runs at 640p, and CoD4 is the same. Don't get me wrong; GT5 looks great, and I'm not knocking it graphically, but your argument would carry much more weight if you were talking about a game like Uncharted or Resistance, both of which do a lot more with a system's hardware than most racing games.
ok then i'll play your game, but still the ps3 do have 1 exclusive game that runs at a native 1080p. Lair and while that game sucked hard in gameplay and controls, that game had ALOT of things going on at once and ran in 1080p (with moderate framerate issues though[QUOTE="Pokeratxbox"][QUOTE="BobHipJames"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Why dont cow's face it that they bought into the hype of teh cell and blu-ray that makes there game superior :lol:EmperorSupreme
Uncharted>everything released on 360 thus far.
Face that, then we'll talk.
gears>uncharted in graphic
tomb raider>tom raider in gameplay
i think you get the point
Reviewers don't just say Uncharted is better they also say it's not even possible on X360.
Ripten review:http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/01/uncharted-drakes-fortune-review/
"Uncharted has great textures. So what? Well Gears of War is lauded as a graphical show piece mainly due to both its artistic vision and its high resolution textures. Uncharted, however, trumps Gears of War."
"Uncharted also has the best graphics you've ever seen on consoles"
Eurogamer review:http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=87533&page=2
"Talking of environments, it's hard to think of a single game that's ever included such lush and staggeringly detailed gaming environment. As much as Gears of War provided a stunning next-generation shooter setting, the moody greys and browns made it a harsh, dark, hostile, and monochromatic place to be. In Uncharted, it's not just superior to Gears in terms of out and out detail, but brings a feel-good factor with the sheer level of environmental variety on offer."
"Truly, Uncharted is the first game I've seen to date that makes me wonder if it could be done on the Xbox 360, and as a huge admirer of the software line-up on Microsoft's system, that's saying a lot."
Gamespy:http://goty.gamespy.com/2007/ps3/10.html
"We can confidently say that after playing Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, it is a game that could only be done on the PlayStation 3. Between the amazing vistas that stretch out over the horizon, rich foliage, and the sheer amount of data that pushes the limits of Blu-ray's storage capacity, Naughty Dog's incredibly rich visual splendor is something to behold."
"i think you get the point"
Opinions not fact. Learn the difference.
[QUOTE="heretrix"]tell me what game on the 360 (exclusively) have ran at 60 fps, ran at a native 1080p resolution signal, and was able to do a 2 player split screen all at the same time? I hate to break it to ya, but the 360 "graphical capabilities" are HEAVILY being called out and so far, they ain't responding[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="colmusterd28"]so not only are you a coward by not responding to posts but you made a fake account in order to be one... awesome day for you... 360 is the graphics king, your precious ps3 hasn't been able to out do a 2 year old gears of war...
ermacness
Developers for BOTH platforms are opting for lesser resolutions so that they can employ more effects in their games.
because in a graphics/visual argument, this accomplishment is a HUGE factor and multiplats doesn't really amtter if the other system can do it as well. As of right now, the ps3 have 2 games (exclusively) that runs at a NATIVE 1080p resloution (in which one of those games run at 60 frames) where as the 360 only 2 games that runs at a native 1080p resolution are multiplats[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="Pokeratxbox"][QUOTE="BobHipJames"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Why dont cow's face it that they bought into the hype of teh cell and blu-ray that makes there game superior :lol:kingtito
Uncharted>everything released on 360 thus far.
Face that, then we'll talk.
gears>uncharted in graphic
tomb raider>tom raider in gameplay
i think you get the point
Reviewers don't just say Uncharted is better they also say it's not even possible on X360.
Ripten review:http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/01/uncharted-drakes-fortune-review/
"Uncharted has great textures. So what? Well Gears of War is lauded as a graphical show piece mainly due to both its artistic vision and its high resolution textures. Uncharted, however, trumps Gears of War."
"Uncharted also has the best graphics you've ever seen on consoles"
Eurogamer review:http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=87533&page=2
"Talking of environments, it's hard to think of a single game that's ever included such lush and staggeringly detailed gaming environment. As much as Gears of War provided a stunning next-generation shooter setting, the moody greys and browns made it a harsh, dark, hostile, and monochromatic place to be. In Uncharted, it's not just superior to Gears in terms of out and out detail, but brings a feel-good factor with the sheer level of environmental variety on offer."
"Truly, Uncharted is the first game I've seen to date that makes me wonder if it could be done on the Xbox 360, and as a huge admirer of the software line-up on Microsoft's system, that's saying a lot."
Gamespy:http://goty.gamespy.com/2007/ps3/10.html
"We can confidently say that after playing Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, it is a game that could only be done on the PlayStation 3. Between the amazing vistas that stretch out over the horizon, rich foliage, and the sheer amount of data that pushes the limits of Blu-ray's storage capacity, Naughty Dog's incredibly rich visual splendor is something to behold."
"i think you get the point"
Opinions not fact. Learn the difference.
and i don't think he was stating that uncharted looking better than gears a fact, but just showing that even some professional reviewers also believe that uncharted is the console graphics king so far (ITHO)[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="Pokeratxbox"][QUOTE="BobHipJames"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Why dont cow's face it that they bought into the hype of teh cell and blu-ray that makes there game superior :lol:kingtito
Uncharted>everything released on 360 thus far.
Face that, then we'll talk.
gears>uncharted in graphic
tomb raider>tom raider in gameplay
i think you get the point
Reviewers don't just say Uncharted is better they also say it's not even possible on X360.
Ripten review:http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/01/uncharted-drakes-fortune-review/
"Uncharted has great textures. So what? Well Gears of War is lauded as a graphical show piece mainly due to both its artistic vision and its high resolution textures. Uncharted, however, trumps Gears of War."
"Uncharted also has the best graphics you've ever seen on consoles"
Eurogamer review:http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=87533&page=2
"Talking of environments, it's hard to think of a single game that's ever included such lush and staggeringly detailed gaming environment. As much as Gears of War provided a stunning next-generation shooter setting, the moody greys and browns made it a harsh, dark, hostile, and monochromatic place to be. In Uncharted, it's not just superior to Gears in terms of out and out detail, but brings a feel-good factor with the sheer level of environmental variety on offer."
"Truly, Uncharted is the first game I've seen to date that makes me wonder if it could be done on the Xbox 360, and as a huge admirer of the software line-up on Microsoft's system, that's saying a lot."
Gamespy:http://goty.gamespy.com/2007/ps3/10.html
"We can confidently say that after playing Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, it is a game that could only be done on the PlayStation 3. Between the amazing vistas that stretch out over the horizon, rich foliage, and the sheer amount of data that pushes the limits of Blu-ray's storage capacity, Naughty Dog's incredibly rich visual splendor is something to behold."
"i think you get the point"
Opinions not fact. Learn the difference.
When I read some of those comments, I was literally stunned they came from reviewers. "We can confidently say that after playing Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, it is a game that could only be done on the PlayStation 3"? What? Whoever wrote that needs to be hit with the Fanboy Stick, and relegated to writing blogs. No game out right now on either system couldn't be done on the other.
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="BobHipJames"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Why dont cow's face it that they bought into the hype of teh cell and blu-ray that makes there game superior :lol:i_Pwn_TheVuhJay
Uncharted>everything released on 360 thus far.
Face that, then we'll talk.
hmmm...and yet it didn't score well, and it didn't sell well...weird....but what can you expect from enemies hide beyind 1 inch pipe railing hoping not to get shot and the amazing gameplay of I will put a big giant red gas barrel that blows up on the stern of my boat then rush towards the enemy, and lets not forget the plastic looking foilage and enviorments. plastic looking as in PD0 plastic looking.
im going out on a limb on this one...but im guessing you haven't played this game yet...this game made my friend who absolutely hates ps3 think twice before judging a ps3 game
He was correct in his assesment of Uncharteds graphics. They look like they were soaked in oil. The game looked good but most cows over hype the graphics.
360: easy to program for, pc-like architecture
PS3: complicated, new, advanced architecture
Now guess which one programmers have been able to already get the most out of and which will improve much in its performance...
NielsNL
Hmm the video card in the PS3 is OLD....very old. It's not new and definitely light years behind the 360's. Neither is even close to being tapped. Don't fool yourself into thinking either of these systems is easy to program for.
Im sorry to make a statment like "the 360's power has been tapped out" you are gonna need more than 3 very weak arguments
The games don't run in 720P? I never noticed, they all look great though, COD4 has been regarded by many as "the best looking game on 360" and its also one fo the best looking games on PS3 (I haven't played that much on PS3 though)
Why do people bother to create useless threads in system wars, I see very few threads that actually put a decent argument across, idiots like the OP need better things to do, rather than create pointless threads on GS
[QUOTE="SeanBond"]tell me what game on the 360 (exclusively) have ran at 60 fps, ran at a native 1080p resolution signal, and was able to do a 2 player split screen all at the same time? I hate to break it to ya, but the 360 "graphical capabilities" are HEAVILY being called out and so far, they ain't responding[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="colmusterd28"]so not only are you a coward by not responding to posts but you made a fake account in order to be one... awesome day for you... 360 is the graphics king, your precious ps3 hasn't been able to out do a 2 year old gears of war...
ermacness
No offense, but neither console is going to be pushing out a lot of games like that. Remember how Resistance was supposed to run at 1080p before the PS3's launch? Remember how only one or two games at launch were actually in 1080p (NBA 07, and I can't remember if there was another)? Neither the PS3 nor the 360 has the power required to have all games natively run at 1080p/60fps, period. Every once in a while you'll see one, but not surprisingly, it's never the best lookinggames, and never the ones with the most characters on screen at once.
ummm.. yeah, i was talking about GT5p.. yeahThat game isn't even out yet and it's a racing game with horrible back grounds. Pretty cars but weak physics and a bad simulator when it comes to racing games.
Bad example
[QUOTE="THE_PREZIDENT"][QUOTE="BobHipJames"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Why dont cow's face it that they bought into the hype of teh cell and blu-ray that makes there game superior :lol:ermacness
Uncharted>everything released on 360 thus far.
Face that, then we'll talk.
lol, 9.6>>>8.0 nuff saidummm.yeah as far as graphics go, that rating comparison really is irrelevant. Sorry[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="heretrix"]tell me what game on the 360 (exclusively) have ran at 60 fps, ran at a native 1080p resolution signal, and was able to do a 2 player split screen all at the same time? I hate to break it to ya, but the 360 "graphical capabilities" are HEAVILY being called out and so far, they ain't responding[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="colmusterd28"]so not only are you a coward by not responding to posts but you made a fake account in order to be one... awesome day for you... 360 is the graphics king, your precious ps3 hasn't been able to out do a 2 year old gears of war...
heretrix
Developers for BOTH platforms are opting for lesser resolutions so that they can employ more effects in their games.
because in a graphics/visual argument, this accomplishment is a HUGE factor and multiplats doesn't really amtter if the other system can do it as well. As of right now, the ps3 have 2 games (exclusively) that runs at a NATIVE 1080p resloution (in which one of those games run at 60 frames) where as the 360 only 2 games that runs at a native 1080p resolution are multiplats[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="Pokeratxbox"][QUOTE="BobHipJames"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Why dont cow's face it that they bought into the hype of teh cell and blu-ray that makes there game superior :lol:ermacness
Uncharted>everything released on 360 thus far.
Face that, then we'll talk.
gears>uncharted in graphic
tomb raider>tom raider in gameplay
i think you get the point
Reviewers don't just say Uncharted is better they also say it's not even possible on X360.
Ripten review:http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/01/uncharted-drakes-fortune-review/
"Uncharted has great textures. So what? Well Gears of War is lauded as a graphical show piece mainly due to both its artistic vision and its high resolution textures. Uncharted, however, trumps Gears of War."
"Uncharted also has the best graphics you've ever seen on consoles"
Eurogamer review:http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=87533&page=2
"Talking of environments, it's hard to think of a single game that's ever included such lush and staggeringly detailed gaming environment. As much as Gears of War provided a stunning next-generation shooter setting, the moody greys and browns made it a harsh, dark, hostile, and monochromatic place to be. In Uncharted, it's not just superior to Gears in terms of out and out detail, but brings a feel-good factor with the sheer level of environmental variety on offer."
"Truly, Uncharted is the first game I've seen to date that makes me wonder if it could be done on the Xbox 360, and as a huge admirer of the software line-up on Microsoft's system, that's saying a lot."
Gamespy:http://goty.gamespy.com/2007/ps3/10.html
"We can confidently say that after playing Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, it is a game that could only be done on the PlayStation 3. Between the amazing vistas that stretch out over the horizon, rich foliage, and the sheer amount of data that pushes the limits of Blu-ray's storage capacity, Naughty Dog's incredibly rich visual splendor is something to behold."
"i think you get the point"
Opinions not fact. Learn the difference.
and i don't think he was stating that uncharted looking better than gears a fact, but just showing that even some professional reviewers also believe that uncharted is the console graphics king so far (ITHO)You say "professional reviewers" as if what they say carries more weight or something. It's still an opinion, which has proven in the past, can be biased. I played and finished both GeOW and Uncharted and I was not all that impressed with Uncharted. Like I said the environments look like they were left soaking in oil for a week. The was fun but overrated.
[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="THE_PREZIDENT"][QUOTE="BobHipJames"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Why dont cow's face it that they bought into the hype of teh cell and blu-ray that makes there game superior :lol:THE_PREZIDENT
Uncharted>everything released on 360 thus far.
Face that, then we'll talk.
lol, 9.6>>>8.0 nuff saidummm.yeah as far as graphics go, that rating comparison really is irrelevant. SorryI may not even bother to respond to this thread cuz if somebody denies this then you can continue to live in the world of dillusions.And please this is not a thread for any PS3 discussion.But ofcourse 360 fanboys will be in epic denial.The following things pretty much prove this.Now deny all you want.
1.Halo 3 easily the biggest and most important game on the platform with nearly endless budget failed to run in the standard 720p resolution.
2.COD4 another big budget game made by talented devs who made COD2 which was easily the best technical accomplisement for a launch 360 game failed to run in 720p,heck it had to dumb down to a lowly 600p to maintain 60fps.
3.Mass effect another huge game had to suffer enormous technical problems perhaps due to the limited power of the 360 for what the devs wanted with the game.
4.And now the latest culprit is rainbow six 2 which runs worse than the original.Sorry fellows but in terms of technical progress this console is heading down and this never happended with any previous console because they didnt have to run games in HD resolutions.And ubisoft makes very good xbox games it's the other platforms that it makes bad ports and stuff.
So does it mean that i stop enjoying my console because of this?No absolutely no.However it's time to face the fact that the 360 was perhaps an underpowered console to begin with and it's future as an "HD" console isnt very good.
Musacircuit_2
If so then the PS3 was tapped before it even launched. Heck RB6V2 worst textures and more lag in the PS3 version anyone:lol:
Your logic has PHAILED MISERABLY
[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"][QUOTE="clone01"]your poor grammar and spelling, along with the lack of facts presented fails to convince me of your argument.jangojay
whats there to proof? just check out the damn games, no? I guess most lemmings don't even care about HD so it doesnt matter.
PS3s R6vegas runs worse than X360s
PS3s Cod 4 runs the same as X360s......
His argument is flawed.
Did i say that the ps3 has loads of potential in it?I even mentioned that this thread is not about the PS3 is any way.Seems like you are only grasping for staws using the PS3.
[QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"] COD2 which was easily the best technical accomplisement for a launch 360 game failed goddamn_
Man, COD 2 graphicly was the worst X360 launch title. Ancient engine from first COD wich didn't have any dynamic lighting at all
humm...COD2 was the reason i bought a 360...crap i had a lot of fun with it...grafx/game-play were great...hell i still play it...
I love the fact that i have low expectations and just play games to have fun...who knew...
[QUOTE="clone01"]your poor grammar and spelling, along with the lack of facts presented fails to convince me of your argument.Rhubarb9
whats there to proof? just check out the damn games, no? I guess most lemmings don't even care about HD so it doesnt matter.
lol @ "whats there to proof?"
This man speaks the truth.Multiplats are intentionally made to look and perform similar on both platforms and 360 has been the lead console in most of the multiplats.I don't think you can use multiplats to argue graphics you have to use exclusives. But I do believe the X360 is tapped graphically. That is why lemmings still talk Gears of War. It's still the best looking game on the system and it's a year and a half old. If it wasn't tapped there would be better games by now.
When you look at PS3 the games are still getting better and better graphically. first Lair, then Heavenly Sword, then Ratchet and Clank took up a notch, then Uncharted, next month Gran Turismo: Prologue.
EmperorSupreme
Fact is PS3 exclusives are getting better still technically whereas 360 exclsuives lilke forza 2,Halo 3 and mass effect are pretty weak technically and only show the system's weakness.Lemmings can deny this all they want.
I guess for PS3 we will have to see games like MGS4 and killzone 2 to see how much potential it has.
[QUOTE="blitzkid1"]Level 1 , nough said.Ragnarok1051
You were level 1 at one time as well.
Thankz for the heads up.:)[QUOTE="slickchris7777"]The TC is right though, the first 3 bullets are undeniable.dhjohns
Ummm, sorry, what? TC is not right in that there is no way the 360 is tapped out. None. The first three bullet points are not reflective of the 360 being tapped out.
Oh nooos seems like you are upset that you will have to wait for the xbox 720 for better visuals.:(Face it Musacircuit_2...no console has EVER tapped out its maximum power after 2 1/3 years.AvIdGaMeR444Ummm what?
MGS2 and GT3 are pretty much the best that the ps2 achieved.Games like SOTC and GOW dont really improve that much on either game technically.
NG maxed out the original xbox.
GEARS OF WAR 2 and all the cows will run and hide.
THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GeoW 2 demonstration shows otherwise.
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And yes, it's laughable to suggest a console has "peaked" after less than three years - on the PS3, Insomniac was annoyed by people suggesting that their game should be expected to "max" the system - it's too early, they're just not there yet. Even on PC, a hot new GPU won't be fully utilized until a year or two after it releases - most games still aren't taking advantage of the full power of GeForce 8800 cards.
On consoles, where the hardware cycle is longer?
GeoW 2 demonstration shows otherwise.subrosian
For the good or bad?
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