Face it lemmings,power of the 360 has been tapped out and it is struggling now.

GeoW 2 demonstration shows otherwise.subrosian

That was a Unreal Engine demonstration meaning any game using the Unreal engine can use that technology.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="Pokeratxbox"][QUOTE="BobHipJames"]

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Why dont cow's face it that they bought into the hype of teh cell and blu-ray that makes there game superior :lol:Patriot298

Uncharted>everything released on 360 thus far.

Face that, then we'll talk.

gears>uncharted in graphic

tomb raider>tom raider in gameplay

i think you get the point

Reviewers don't just say Uncharted is better they also say it's not even possible on X360.

"i think you get the point"

No we don't get the point. .....lol.. Just because some game reviewing site said Uncharted isn't possible on 360 doesn't make it true. Mass Effect has better visuals than Uncharted in my opinion. Unless they actually try and port it over to 360 we'll never know will we?? I never go by some one else's opinion. Only weak minded people rely on others for facts.

[QUOTE="dhjohns"]

[QUOTE="slickchris7777"]The TC is right though, the first 3 bullets are undeniable.Musacircuit_2

Ummm, sorry, what? TC is not right in that there is no way the 360 is tapped out. None. The first three bullet points are not reflective of the 360 being tapped out.

Not really. I just don't own fanboy goggles like yourself. A console has never tapped out in the first 2 years. Look at PS2 games and how long it took for them to "tap out" the PS2. Get over yourself.

[QUOTE="subrosian"]GeoW 2 demonstration shows otherwise.Eddie_Munster08

For the good or bad?

Well they've opened up the environments (akin to the PC version of the game) and added destructable environments, improved lighting, and gone from a handful of enemies on the screen at a time, to having dozens upon dozens. The fluid has been improved, as well as the physics - so to say "the 360 is maxed" when a game coming in late 2008 will push it further than was previously thought possible?

[QUOTE="subrosian"]GeoW 2 demonstration shows otherwise.EmperorSupreme

That was a Unreal Engine demonstration meaning any game using the Unreal engine can use that technology.

Like a 360 game perhaps?

[QUOTE="subrosian"]GeoW 2 demonstration shows otherwise.EmperorSupreme

That was a Unreal Engine demonstration meaning any game using the Unreal engine can use that technology.

Obviously it's going to run on the 360, since GeoW 2 is releasing on the 360 this year. The TC's claim is that the 360 is "maxed", which it's obviously not given a game pushing it further is in development.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="subrosian"]GeoW 2 demonstration shows otherwise.subrosian

That was a Unreal Engine demonstration meaning any game using the Unreal engine can use that technology.

Obviously it's going to run on the 360, since GeoW 2 is releasing on the 360 this year. The TC's claim is that the 360 is "maxed", which it's obviously not given a game pushing it further is in development.

I guess bungie and bioware dont know anything then if gears 2 will have all the stuff you are claiming and still look great and run well and good resolution.Hmmm mark my words and bookmark it cuz it is NOT going to happen.

And ya crysis has tapped the potential of the geforce 8800.

[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="subrosian"]GeoW 2 demonstration shows otherwise.Musacircuit_2

That was a Unreal Engine demonstration meaning any game using the Unreal engine can use that technology.

Obviously it's going to run on the 360, since GeoW 2 is releasing on the 360 this year. The TC's claim is that the 360 is "maxed", which it's obviously not given a game pushing it further is in development.

I guess bungie and bioware dont know anything then if gears 2 will have all the stuff you are claiming and still look great and run well and good resolution.Hmmm mark my words and bookmark it cuz it is NOT going to happen.

And ya crysis has tapped the potential of the geforce 8800.

Are you a software developer? Do you have any experience with programming? I don't think so. Your statements are just ridiculous. Because an older game doesn't have the same visuals etc... as a newer game, the devs don't know anything? WTF? It is called progress. Look at launch titles (of any system) and then look at games 5 years later for the same system. See any differences? I guess those launch game devs don't know anything, huh? :roll: Won't even touch your last statement.

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Why dont cow's face it that they bought into the hype of teh cell and blu-ray that makes there game superior :lol:BobHipJames

Uncharted>everything released on 360 thus far.

Face that, then we'll talk.

HAHAHAHA ya that game really showed up anything the 360 has brought out... please just stop it :|

[QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"][QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="subrosian"]GeoW 2 demonstration shows otherwise.dhjohns

That was a Unreal Engine demonstration meaning any game using the Unreal engine can use that technology.

Obviously it's going to run on the 360, since GeoW 2 is releasing on the 360 this year. The TC's claim is that the 360 is "maxed", which it's obviously not given a game pushing it further is in development.

I guess bungie and bioware dont know anything then if gears 2 will have all the stuff you are claiming and still look great and run well and good resolution.Hmmm mark my words and bookmark it cuz it is NOT going to happen.

And ya crysis has tapped the potential of the geforce 8800.

Are you a software developer? Do you have any experience with programming? I don't think so. Your statements are just ridiculous. Because an older game doesn't have the same visuals etc... as a newer game, the devs don't know anything? WTF? It is called progress. Look at launch titles (of any system) and then look at games 5 years later for the same system. See any differences? I guess those launch game devs don't know anything, huh? :roll: Won't even touch your last statement.

A level one with 32 posts... :?

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It's common sense, devs get better with a console over time. Or y'know, every developer and hardware manufacturer is "stupid". Why didn't Nintendo skip the NES and just build the Gamecube in the 80s? Progress. Why can less powerful handheld devices do more media functions than high-powered computers used to do?

It takes time for developers to make the most out of a console - expecting them to "max" it on day one is like expecting someone to be Tony Hawk their first time on a skateboard.

I just have nothing else to say here folks I'll be moving on because I think If I read anymore of this topic I will throw up.

PS3 and X360 both have framerate issues. Seriously this gen it's pretty bad.. I never encountered so many framerate issues with consoles EVER before this.jangojay

You never played a NES game with 5 sprites on the screen at once did you? Hellllloooo slideshow! :)

FF XII in-engine screenshot (not CGI)

LO in-engine gameplay (no CGI)

... looks like FF XII? What an utterly absurd claim.

FF XII in-engine screenshot (not CGI)

LO in-engine gameplay (no CGI)

... looks like FF XII? What an utterly absurd claim.

subrosian

The second screen looks a country mile better.

[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"][QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="subrosian"]GeoW 2 demonstration shows otherwise.Musacircuit_2

That was a Unreal Engine demonstration meaning any game using the Unreal engine can use that technology.

Obviously it's going to run on the 360, since GeoW 2 is releasing on the 360 this year. The TC's claim is that the 360 is "maxed", which it's obviously not given a game pushing it further is in development.

I guess bungie and bioware dont know anything then if gears 2 will have all the stuff you are claiming and still look great and run well and good resolution.Hmmm mark my words and bookmark it cuz it is NOT going to happen.

And ya crysis has tapped the potential of the geforce 8800.

Are you a software developer? Do you have any experience with programming? I don't think so. Your statements are just ridiculous. Because an older game doesn't have the same visuals etc... as a newer game, the devs don't know anything? WTF? It is called progress. Look at launch titles (of any system) and then look at games 5 years later for the same system. See any differences? I guess those launch game devs don't know anything, huh? :roll: Won't even touch your last statement.

A level one with 32 posts... :?

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It's common sense, devs get better with a console over time. Or y'know, every developer and hardware manufacturer is "stupid". Why didn't Nintendo skip the NES and just build the Gamecube in the 80s? Progress. Why can less powerful handheld devices do more media functions than high-powered computers used to do?

It takes time for developers to make the most out of a console - expecting them to "max" it on day one is like expecting someone to be Tony Hawk their first time on a skateboard.

I am waiting for your response in this and all those people who spout this non sense that consoles graphics gets teh improving and teh devs learning and squeezing more power.:roll:

Fable 2 and Alan Wale are two games that PS3, with its last gen GPU, one CPU core, and non unified ram, could only dream of running

PS3 is just obsolete in graphics

The TC is trying too hard for a lost cause, even Lost Odyssey, a game NOT hyped for its graphics, looks betetr than anything on PS3 ATM IMO

I may not even bother to respond to this thread cuz if somebody denies this then you can continue to live in the world of dillusions.And please this is not a thread for any PS3 discussion.But ofcourse 360 fanboys will be in epic denial.The following things pretty much prove this.Now deny all you want.

1.Halo 3 easily the biggest and most important game on the platform with nearly endless budget failed to run in the standard 720p resolution.

2.COD4 another big budget game made by talented devs who made COD2 which was easily the best technical accomplisement for a launch 360 game failed to run in 720p,heck it had to dumb down to a lowly 600p to maintain 60fps.

3.Mass effect another huge game had to suffer enormous technical problems perhaps due to the limited power of the 360 for what the devs wanted with the game.

4.And now the latest culprit is rainbow six 2 which runs worse than the original.Sorry fellows but in terms of technical progress this console is heading down and this never happended with any previous console because they didnt have to run games in HD resolutions.And ubisoft makes very good xbox games it's the other platforms that it makes bad ports and stuff.

So does it mean that i stop enjoying my console because of this?No absolutely no.However it's time to face the fact that the 360 was perhaps an underpowered console to begin with and it's future as an "HD" console isnt very good.

Musacircuit_2

Uhh, I play my 360 in 720p every day with titles like Halo 3. The difference between 480p and 720p is incredible.

Uhh, I play my 360 in 720p every day with titles like Halo 3. The difference between 480p and 720p is incredible.

Soilworkcob

Halo 3 outputs in 640p upscaled to 720p, it's not internally rendered at 720p.

[QUOTE="Soilworkcob"]

Uhh, I play my 360 in 720p every day with titles like Halo 3. The difference between 480p and 720p is incredible.

subrosian

Halo 3 outputs in 640p upscaled to 720p, it's not internally rendered at 720p.

Actually Halo 3 renders in a far higher than 720p resolution, to achieve its effects

[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="Soilworkcob"]

Uhh, I play my 360 in 720p every day with titles like Halo 3. The difference between 480p and 720p is incredible.

saolin323

Halo 3 outputs in 640p upscaled to 720p, it's not internally rendered at 720p.

Actually Halo 3 renders in a far higher than 720p resolution, to achieve its effects

No, its 640p. You sir, fail.

[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="Soilworkcob"]

Uhh, I play my 360 in 720p every day with titles like Halo 3. The difference between 480p and 720p is incredible.

rimnet00

Halo 3 outputs in 640p upscaled to 720p, it's not internally rendered at 720p.

Actually Halo 3 renders in a far higher than 720p resolution, to achieve its effects

No, its 640p. You sir, fail.

And yet some PS3 games need to be installed to ensure framerate:|

also people have been saying this about the 360 for over a eyar and a half now, get over it.
Big_player

[QUOTE="BobHipJames"]

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Why dont cow's face it that they bought into the hype of teh cell and blu-ray that makes there game superior :lol:Pokeratxbox

Uncharted>everything released on 360 thus far.

Face that, then we'll talk.

gears>uncharted in graphic

tomb raider>tom raider in gameplay

i think you get the point

Gears 2 = Gears 1 > Uncharted

can they make a better looking game for a change?

[QUOTE="Pokeratxbox"][QUOTE="BobHipJames"]

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Why dont cow's face it that they bought into the hype of teh cell and blu-ray that makes there game superior :lol:Sony_92

Uncharted>everything released on 360 thus far.

Face that, then we'll talk.

gears>uncharted in graphic

tomb raider>tom raider in gameplay

i think you get the point

Gears 2 > Gears 1 > Uncharted

can they make a better looking game for a change?

Consoles aren't meant to be powerhouses. Self ownage among the cows is strong, they stil didn't seem to learn a lesson from Lair.

Here... this might come in handy since you're obviously trying to search for miniscule differences.

[QUOTE="Sony_92"]

Gears 2 > Gears 1 > Uncharted

can they make a better looking game for a change?

DuDisNow

Epic made UT3 and they said that UT3 was supposed to look better than Gears cause of the new improved game engine but it didnt.

When Naughty Dog made Uncharted, they said that Uncharted hardly scratched the surface of the PS3's hardware.

Insomniac also said that Resistance hardly took advantage of the PS3's power.

My point is .. every time a PS3 comes out with a new exclusive title, the graphics always gets better but the 360 has gotten close to Gears with Mass Effect but look at all the technical problems there were.

The 360 has passed the PS3 but is staying in the same spot while the PS3 always goes higher.

I really do want GeOW2 to look better than Gears but i dont think it will.

they stil didn't seem to learn a lesson from Lair.

PullTheTricker

Lair could of been a great game but Factor 5 just didnt know how to make the game playable with the Sixaxis.

[QUOTE="PullTheTricker"]

they stil didn't seem to learn a lesson from Lair.

Sony_92

Lair could of been a great game but Factor 5 just didnt know how to make the game playable with the Sixaxis.

The controlls were just one of the many issues that plagued LAIR.

[QUOTE="PullTheTricker"]

they stil didn't seem to learn a lesson from Lair.

Sony_92

Lair could of been a great game but Factor 5 just didnt know how to make the game playable with the Sixaxis.

[QUOTE="Sony_92"][QUOTE="PullTheTricker"]

they stil didn't seem to learn a lesson from Lair.

Verge_6

Lair could of been a great game but Factor 5 just didnt know how to make the game playable with the Sixaxis.

The controlls were just one of the many issues that plagued LAIR.

true ... the story could of been better but the concept was good.

This thread is full of lemmings in denial, uncharted was announced graphics king a LONG time ago, GET OVER IT

and STILL if you want to say gears looks better then uncharted(which it does NOT) gran turismo still looks better then anything on the 360, gears two will not have any graphics changes, the most we will see is what the other poster said, physics and bigger enviroments(i really cant see this happening because mass effect had problems with bigger enviroments)

IMO I think the 360 is maxed, gears is still the best looking 360 game and its been a year and half now, mass effect tried to increase that and it failed(HARD)

PS

Lemmings are dumb, im going to play GEOW on my pc now, enjoy your washed out versions.

If PS3 tried half the gameplay elemnets games like Gears and Mass Effect have than Uncharted would not look as good as some cows think it looks.

And remember if Uncharted was on the 360 it would be the best version.