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#1 Jhung207
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What a bunch of sorry developers. These guys delay the game because of some bad reviews. Weren't they the ones hyping this game to the max and saying it can only be done on ps3. LMAO, these guys can't get anything right. A bunch of scam artist is what they are.
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#2 NobuoMusicMaker
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I'm sure you were saying this back when they made Rogue Squadron.
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#3 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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Ouch. Shame on them for improving a game?

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#4 Jhung207
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I'm sure you were saying this back when they made Rogue Squadron.NobuoMusicMaker

Yea, one hit wonders. This is next get and not last gen. Look at atari.

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I'm sure you were saying this back when they made Rogue Squadron.NobuoMusicMaker

almost 10 years ago? when they were good?

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#6 DXGreat1_HGL
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I'm sure you were saying this back when they made Rogue Squadron.NobuoMusicMaker

Then followed it up with Rebel Tripe....I mean Strike....

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#7 NobuoMusicMaker
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[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]I'm sure you were saying this back when they made Rogue Squadron.Jhung207

Yea, one hit wonders. This is next get and not last gen. Look at atari.

Rogue Leader?

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#8 Jhung207
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Ouch. Shame on them for improving a game?

Tsug_Ze_Wind

And they were so arrogant on their ability to create a game and all it took was one bad review to make them realize Lair sux major.

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#9 biggamerhk
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how do you know that they delayed it for the reviews??? if u read the GS article on it, Facotr 5 said it was fixing up some community issues or whatever.

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#10 SergeantSnitch
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What a bunch of sorry developers. These guys delay the game because of some bad reviews. Weren't they the ones hyping this game to the max and saying it can only be done on ps3. LMAO, these guys can't get anything right. A bunch of scam artist is what they are.Jhung207


... What? They are fixing issues with the game, so that it gets a better score. How can you even turn this into something negative? Scam artists? Riiiiiiiiiight.
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#11 DXGreat1_HGL
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[QUOTE="Jhung207"]

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]I'm sure you were saying this back when they made Rogue Squadron.NobuoMusicMaker

Yea, one hit wonders. This is next get and not last gen. Look at atari.

Rogue Leader?

I guess it must be the selective amnesia....

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#12 PeterTimpa
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Well in away this could be a blessing in disguise, because from what I read or heard the only bad thing about Lair was the controls. So maybe this gives them time to fix that and like the GS article said get the online stuff up and running. I just hope Sony doesnt push Heavnly Sword back due to the fact that if Lair and HS come out the same month
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#13 ISA_Scum
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THEY GOT ONE BAD REVIEWS!

Dear God you Lemmings just can't get enough of EGM.

Play, Gamezone and Edge all 9/10

Gamepro 3.75/5.00 = 7.5/10 = still freaking playable by my standards!

Dear God man! One review didn't hit them right in the face and say "delay it! it sucks!" Freaking leaderboards got it delayed. If the game comes out with analog control options then yeah, they flip-flopped. But I suspect it won't!

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#14 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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[QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

Ouch. Shame on them for improving a game?

Jhung207

And they were so arrogant on their ability to create a game and all it took was one bad review to make them realize Lair sux major.

Still, it's a good thing. If you want to bash their overconfidence though, go right ahead.

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THEY GOT ONE BAD REVIEWS!

Dear God you Lemmings just can't get enough of EGM.

Play, Gamezone and Edge all 9/10

Gamepro 3.75/5.00 = 7.5/10 = still freaking playable by my standards!

Dear God man! One review didn't hit them right in the face and say "delay it! it sucks!" Freaking leaderboards got it delayed. If the game comes out with analog control options then yeah, they flip-flopped. But I suspect it won't!

ISA_Scum

Well EGM is much more trustworthy than the rest of those rags put together. They aren't biased in the least and the review games honestly.

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#16 Jhung207
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Watch factor 5 add analog control as an alternative option for flying and you guys will see the real reason they delayed it.

This game was rushed and that is why the gameplay is so awful.

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[QUOTE="ISA_Scum"]

THEY GOT ONE BAD REVIEWS!

Dear God you Lemmings just can't get enough of EGM.

Play, Gamezone and Edge all 9/10

Gamepro 3.75/5.00 = 7.5/10 = still freaking playable by my standards!

Dear God man! One review didn't hit them right in the face and say "delay it! it sucks!" Freaking leaderboards got it delayed. If the game comes out with analog control options then yeah, they flip-flopped. But I suspect it won't!

hazuki87

Well EGM is much more trustworthy than the rest of those rags put together. They aren't biased in the least and the review games honestly.

Last I heard they're Sony lovers and give high scores a lot.

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#18 Jhung207
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[QUOTE="Jhung207"][QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

Ouch. Shame on them for improving a game?

Tsug_Ze_Wind

And they were so arrogant on their ability to create a game and all it took was one bad review to make them realize Lair sux major.

Still, it's a good thing. If you want to bash their overconfidence though, go right ahead.

And im dislike factor 5 because they are arrogant and hyped this game like it was the second coming. Now they are scrambling on their feet to save face by making this game less mediocre.

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#19 Teuf_
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So apparently every developer that has delayed a game is incompetent?

By that logic, pretty much every developer is incompetent.
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#20 Jhung207
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So apparently every developer that has delayed a game is incompetent?

By that logic, pretty much every developer is incompetent. Teufelhuhn

No, they hyped this game like it was gonna be GOTY and they delayed it because there were major flaws in the game that they did not see until reviews came out. They is why im calling these guy's ability to create games now incompetent.

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Factor 5 are a joke. I think this will be the last game they'll ever develop.

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#22 Kekira
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]So apparently every developer that has delayed a game is incompetent?

By that logic, pretty much every developer is incompetent. Jhung207

No, they hyped this game like it was gonna be GOTY and they delayed it because there were major flaws in the game that they did not see until reviews came out. They is why im calling these guy's ability to create games now incompetent.

Who said that? >.> Last I check, the closest thing to GOTY in the Sony camp is HS.

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I'm sure you were saying this back when they made Rogue Squadron.NobuoMusicMaker

Times change. I never would even think of sega as bad until their last couple of years :(

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#24 Jhung207
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[QUOTE="Jhung207"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]So apparently every developer that has delayed a game is incompetent?

By that logic, pretty much every developer is incompetent. Kekira

No, they hyped this game like it was gonna be GOTY and they delayed it because there were major flaws in the game that they did not see until reviews came out. They is why im calling these guy's ability to create games now incompetent.

Who said that? >.> Last I check, the closest thing to GOTY in the Sony camp is HS.

You should listen and read some of factor 5 interview. It was from the developer's themselves that hyped this game and its superior quality to death.

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#25 NobuoMusicMaker
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Factor 5 are a joke. I think this will be the last game they'll ever develop.

ReverseCycology

If they were under Crapcom or Milkrosoft. Sony is different. There is still imaginative power behind Factor 5 and they will support it. They don't kill developers just because of poor sales.

And Factor 5 made Rogue Leader, probably one of the best looking GC games ever.

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wait they delay it to improve the thing reviewers were complaining about and this is bad how? and one hit wonders? i love how, when a dev shows love for ps3, like factor 5, or square, or kojima, or rockstar, they are all of a sudden overrated developers, or one hit wonders, i love it :lol:
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#27 Stall0wn3d
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if anything i think TC described silicon knights perfectly :lol:
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#28 eastside49er
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So is it true they are actually adding an option on the controls? If so, that might warrant a purchase from me. I wasn't even going to play the game because of the controls. You would have to be a complete idiot in this day and age to not give the customer an option when it comes to controls, but then again we are talking about Factor 5 who hasn't made a good game since2001.
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#29 DXGreat1_HGL
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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Factor 5 are a joke. I think this will be the last game they'll ever develop.

NobuoMusicMaker

If they were under Crapcom or Milkrosoft. Sony is different. There is still imaginative power behind Factor 5 and they will support it. They don't kill developers just because of poor sales.

And Factor 5 made Rogue Leader, probably one of the best looking GC games ever.

And for the 3rd time (since, as usual, you ignore any part of an argument that debunks you) followed it up with the craptaculer Rebel Strike, the 2nd worse Star Wars game ever behind the 3d fighter. In this pile of wasted code Factor 5 attempts to totally rewrite the original trilogy. Only a totally incompatent dev would do something like that.

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#30 Jhung207
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wait they delay it to improve the thing reviewers were complaining about and this is bad how? and one hit wonders? i love how, when a dev shows love for ps3, like factor 5, or square, or kojima, or rockstar, they are all of a sudden overrated developers, or one hit wonders, i love it :lol:Stall0wn3d

I have no idea what you are talking about. Im calling factor 5 incompetent because they made a flawed game and it took a review to make them realize how bad this game is gonna flop. Their history of making good games before just shows how incompetent they are now to make a game.(lair)

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#31 Kekira
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[QUOTE="Kekira"][QUOTE="Jhung207"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]So apparently every developer that has delayed a game is incompetent?

By that logic, pretty much every developer is incompetent. Jhung207

No, they hyped this game like it was gonna be GOTY and they delayed it because there were major flaws in the game that they did not see until reviews came out. They is why im calling these guy's ability to create games now incompetent.

Who said that? >.> Last I check, the closest thing to GOTY in the Sony camp is HS.

You should listen and read some of factor 5 interview. It was from the developer's themselves that hyped this game and its superior quality to death.

And how unexpected is that? Of course they'll say that.

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You can bad mouth them all you want for them hyping it to be GOTY that is understandable. My thing is at least they are showing they actually want it to not suck and hopefully live up to the hype they are giving it, at least they are taking the time to try and fix the bunk controls.
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#33 XenogearsMaster
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You mean, "Factor 5 is incompetent."

Anyway, I think they should delay it until they can fix EVERYTHING as well as adding analog controls.

BTW, Nobuo, you're sig is tearing up my internet. Sorry I had to say it. It's too much of a big file.

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[QUOTE="Stall0wn3d"]wait they delay it to improve the thing reviewers were complaining about and this is bad how? and one hit wonders? i love how, when a dev shows love for ps3, like factor 5, or square, or kojima, or rockstar, they are all of a sudden overrated developers, or one hit wonders, i love it :lol:Jhung207

I have no idea what you are talking about. Im calling factor 5 incompetent because they made a flawed game and it took a review to make them realize how bad this game is gonna flop. Their history of making good games before just shows how incompetent they are now to make a game.(lair)

You played the game? 0o0

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#35 Jhung207
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[QUOTE="Jhung207"][QUOTE="Kekira"][QUOTE="Jhung207"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]So apparently every developer that has delayed a game is incompetent?

By that logic, pretty much every developer is incompetent. Kekira

No, they hyped this game like it was gonna be GOTY and they delayed it because there were major flaws in the game that they did not see until reviews came out. They is why im calling these guy's ability to create games now incompetent.

Who said that? >.> Last I check, the closest thing to GOTY in the Sony camp is HS.

You should listen and read some of factor 5 interview. It was from the developer's themselves that hyped this game and its superior quality to death.

And how unexpected is that? Of course they'll say that.

And and now they're backing off because they realize the game sux. So that is why im calling them incompetent because they made a bad game and they were overconfident in their ability.

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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]So apparently every developer that has delayed a game is incompetent?

By that logic, pretty much every developer is incompetent. Jhung207

No, they hyped this game like it was gonna be GOTY and they delayed it because there were major flaws in the game that they did not see until reviews came out. They is why im calling these guy's ability to create games now incompetent.

If that's the case then they are one of the better devs for pushing it back instead of dumping a glitchy game ie gears with broken online for example. I would rather wait till it's right for one well done factor 5 improving your game when they discover a problem !!
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This sucks, every game for the ps3 has been delayed. Maybe these stupid companies should learn not to set a date until the game is completed. So far the whole ps3 experience has been delay after delay.. when will it stop?
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[QUOTE="Jhung207"]

[QUOTE="Stall0wn3d"]wait they delay it to improve the thing reviewers were complaining about and this is bad how? and one hit wonders? i love how, when a dev shows love for ps3, like factor 5, or square, or kojima, or rockstar, they are all of a sudden overrated developers, or one hit wonders, i love it :lol:Kekira

I have no idea what you are talking about. Im calling factor 5 incompetent because they made a flawed game and it took a review to make them realize how bad this game is gonna flop. Their history of making good games before just shows how incompetent they are now to make a game.(lair)

You played the game? 0o0

No

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[QUOTE="Stall0wn3d"]wait they delay it to improve the thing reviewers were complaining about and this is bad how? and one hit wonders? i love how, when a dev shows love for ps3, like factor 5, or square, or kojima, or rockstar, they are all of a sudden overrated developers, or one hit wonders, i love it :lol:Jhung207

I have no idea what you are talking about. Im calling factor 5 incompetent because they made a flawed game and it took a review to make them realize how bad this game is gonna flop. Their history of making good games before just shows how incompetent they are now to make a game.(lair)

a few bad revies and a few good ones, you choose to cherry pick cus you are a fanboy, honestly you arent making sense, and are just spewing fanboy nonsense.
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#40 eastside49er
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This sucks, every game for the ps3 has been delayed. Maybe these stupid companies should learn not to set a date until the game is completed. So far the whole ps3 experience has been delay after delay.. when will it stop?TheDuffman26

"Just Wait" - Sony trademark 2006

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#41 Jhung207
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[QUOTE="Jhung207"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]So apparently every developer that has delayed a game is incompetent?

By that logic, pretty much every developer is incompetent. BrooklynBomber

No, they hyped this game like it was gonna be GOTY and they delayed it because there were major flaws in the game that they did not see until reviews came out. They is why im calling these guy's ability to create games now incompetent.

If that's the case then they are one of the better devs for pushing it back instead of dumping a glitchy game ie gears with broken online for example. I would rather wait till it's right for one well done factor 5 improving your game when they discover a problem !!

They wouldn't be in this position if their abilities weren't incompetent in the first place.

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#42 dackchaar
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I hope they do add analog support, not because I think the six-axis would be too crappy to control, but it's just nice to have the option to us analog. I plan on getting this game at christmas along with HS Ratchet and clank drake's fortune and possibly haze...or UT3.
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wait they delay it to improve the thing reviewers were complaining about and this is bad how? and one hit wonders? i love how, when a dev shows love for ps3, like factor 5, or square, or kojima, or rockstar, they are all of a sudden overrated developers, or one hit wonders, i love it :lol:Stall0wn3d

Actually Factor 5 has really only made one decent game the entire time they have been developing. That would be Rogue Squadron which launched with the GCN. None of their games before or after that have been what I like to call quality, but that is just my opinion.

Oh and I love your name,icon and sig. Funny as hell man, LOL!!! :lol:

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#44 BrooklynBomber
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[QUOTE="BrooklynBomber"][QUOTE="Jhung207"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]So apparently every developer that has delayed a game is incompetent?

By that logic, pretty much every developer is incompetent. Jhung207

No, they hyped this game like it was gonna be GOTY and they delayed it because there were major flaws in the game that they did not see until reviews came out. They is why im calling these guy's ability to create games now incompetent.

If that's the case then they are one of the better devs for pushing it back instead of dumping a glitchy game ie gears with broken online for example. I would rather wait till it's right for one well done factor 5 improving your game when they discover a problem !!

They wouldn't be in this position if their abilities weren't incompetent in the first place.

Like you could do better lmao factor 5 only made one of the best looking playing games in 2007 yeah their incompetentI wish more devs were as bad as factor 5 lol. Really they want to improve the game before it ships with issues more power to them.

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[QUOTE="TheDuffman26"]This sucks, every game for the ps3 has been delayed. Maybe these stupid companies should learn not to set a date until the game is completed. So far the whole ps3 experience has been delay after delay.. when will it stop?eastside49er

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[QUOTE="Jhung207"][QUOTE="BrooklynBomber"][QUOTE="Jhung207"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]So apparently every developer that has delayed a game is incompetent?

By that logic, pretty much every developer is incompetent. BrooklynBomber

No, they hyped this game like it was gonna be GOTY and they delayed it because there were major flaws in the game that they did not see until reviews came out. They is why im calling these guy's ability to create games now incompetent.

If that's the case then they are one of the better devs for pushing it back instead of dumping a glitchy game ie gears with broken online for example. I would rather wait till it's right for one well done factor 5 improving your game when they discover a problem !!

They wouldn't be in this position if their abilities weren't incompetent in the first place.

Like you could do better lmao factor 5 only made one of the best looking playing games in 2007 yeah their incompetentI wish more devs were as bad as factor 5 lol. Really they want to improve the game before it ships with issues more power to them.

Best looking game??? You mean the game that was suppose to detrone gears of wars???

LMAO, more power to them??? They are losing customer by showing there are problems with the games and by that time bioshock will come out and shock everyone with its awsomeness.

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#47 eastside49er
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[QUOTE="TheDuffman26"]This sucks, every game for the ps3 has been delayed. Maybe these stupid companies should learn not to set a date until the game is completed. So far the whole ps3 experience has been delay after delay.. when will it stop?Stall0wn3d

"Just Wait" - Sony trademark 2006

You Know, Things Break...

And MS is doing something about it. 3 year warranty, 65nm falcon chips, extra heatsync, quieter DVD player, etc. Any of this ring a bell or are just ignoring the facts?

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#48 Optusnet
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THEY GOT ONE BAD REVIEWS!

Dear God you Lemmings just can't get enough of EGM.

Play, Gamezone and Edge all 9/10

Gamepro 3.75/5.00 = 7.5/10 = still freaking playable by my standards!

Dear God man! One review didn't hit them right in the face and say "delay it! it sucks!" Freaking leaderboards got it delayed. If the game comes out with analog control options then yeah, they flip-flopped. But I suspect it won't!

hazuki87

Well EGM is much more trustworthy than the rest of those rags put together. They aren't biased in the least and the review games honestly.

:lol::lol::lol: You're kidding, right? EGM have HORRIBLE reviews. They're bashed so many games I've enjoyed, and their reviews are no bigger than an editor's coluimn. They kept favouring PSP over DS before either came out.They evenblurted out: "Ofcourse the PS3 is worth it! The only games you're missing out onare the Nintendo games and Halo 3!"They're a bunch of duds.

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[QUOTE="Stall0wn3d"]wait they delay it to improve the thing reviewers were complaining about and this is bad how? and one hit wonders? i love how, when a dev shows love for ps3, like factor 5, or square, or kojima, or rockstar, they are all of a sudden overrated developers, or one hit wonders, i love it :lol:eastside49er

Actually Factor 5 has really only made one decent game the entire time they have been developing. That would be Rogue Squadron which launched with the GCN. None of their games before or after that have been what I like to call quality, but that is just my opinion.

Oh and I love your name,icon and sig. Funny as hell man, LOL!!! :lol:

well that is your opinion, i can dig it. but i disagree, i like all the rogue squadron games and rebel strike was great IMO, one of the best looking and one of my favs on gamecube, i still play it to this day.

and yea i like my sig and all that too, thats why i put them there, eventually when i upgrade my computer and whatnot ima put my rig next to stallone on my sig and all that, should look cool.
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[QUOTE="Stall0wn3d"][QUOTE="eastside49er"]

[QUOTE="TheDuffman26"]This sucks, every game for the ps3 has been delayed. Maybe these stupid companies should learn not to set a date until the game is completed. So far the whole ps3 experience has been delay after delay.. when will it stop?eastside49er

"Just Wait" - Sony trademark 2006

You Know, Things Break...

And MS is doing something about it. 3 year warranty, 65nm falcon chips, extra heatsync, quieter DVD player, etc. Any of this ring a bell or are just ignoring the facts?

LOL, you have to wait for those, right?