Fallout 3 is trash!

I guess you can tack on an automated targeting system and a leveling up system(which btw, your character will cap off at level 2o, wtf??) and call it and RPG.

This game is trash. It just oblivion with guns. dthach614

No. You are wrong. Sorry.

I guess nobody here ever played Fallout 1 & 2 before..dthach614

I guess nobody here ever played Fallout 1 & 2 before..dthach614

I read that as "Fallout 3 is thrash". And thought of this.AirGuitarist87

lol, I realized this game was trash after the first 10 minutes, then continued to play it for a further 10 hours so that when I got on this board and told people its a crap game, they wouldn't say "well, try playing it for more than 10 minutes" II_Seraphim_II

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]lol, I realized this game was trash after the first 10 minutes, then continued to play it for a further 10 hours so that when I got on this board and told people its a crap game, they wouldn't say "well, try playing it for more than 10 minutes" Zhengi

seriously lol. Some games you can just tell they are trash from the first 10 minutes. In fact if a game makes you want to throw it out the window after the first 10 minutes, its already failed, regardless of how "awesome" it becomes 200hrs in :x

I guess nobody here ever played Fallout 1 & 2 before..dthach614

I stand by my comment. Your opinion is wrong.

I guess you can tack on an automated targeting system and a leveling up system(which btw, your character will cap off at level 2o, wtf??) and call it a RPG.

This game is trash. It just oblivion with guns. dthach614

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Nope, what makes an rpg is the role playing, and while F3 ain't perfect it's got more role playing then any other so called rpg out there right now.

F1 and F2 where just as flawed as F3, but all are nice games.

[QUOTE="dthach614"]I guess nobody here ever played Fallout 1 & 2 before..ZIMdoom

I stand by my comment. Your opinion is wrong.

the combat system is trash. the combat system is the core of an rpg for me atleast. If the combat system is trash, then the game is trash.

It's annoying as hell when you use VATS and the game goes in slow motion and the camera goes nuts. Why does it go in slow motion?? You could not disrupt the flow of the combat any more than what bethesda did.

The fact that the game pause when you use VATS defeat the whole purpose of it a real time combat.

this game just suck what a disappointment

[QUOTE="dthach614"]I guess nobody here ever played Fallout 1 & 2 before..ZIMdoom

I stand by my comment. Your opinion is wrong.

[QUOTE="dthach614"]I guess nobody here ever played Fallout 1 & 2 before..ZIMdoom

I stand by my comment. Your opinion is wrong.

lol stop talking. theres no difference between the games? beside the player perspective? for one the combat system is different and worse omg lol

the combat system is trash. the combat system is the core of an rpg for me atleast. If the combat system is trash, then the game is trash.

It's annoying as hell when you use VATS and the game goes in slow motion and the camera got nuts. Why does it go in slow motion?? You could not disrupt the flow of the combat any more than what bethesda did.

The fact that the game pause when you use VATS defeat the whole purpose of it a real time combat.

this game just suck what a disappointment

dthach614

If the combat system is the the core of an rpg then you're not an rpg gamer.

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[QUOTE="dthach614"]I guess nobody here ever played Fallout 1 & 2 before..II_Seraphim_II

I stand by my comment. Your opinion is wrong.

right on the money

[QUOTE="dthach614"]the combat system is trash. the combat system is the core of an rpg for me atleast. If the combat system is trash, then the game is trash.

It's annoying as hell when you use VATS and the game goes in slow motion and the camera got nuts. Why does it go in slow motion?? You could not disrupt the flow of the combat any more than what bethesda did.

The fact that the game pause when you use VATS defeat the whole purpose of it a real time combat.

this game just suck what a disappointment

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If the combat system is the the core of an rpg then you're not an rpg gamer.

maybe not, but its the MOST important aspect for me. I do value a good story(Final Fantasy games) also. but I couldnt bare the crappy FO3 combat. And a good leveling system, which Bethesda also failed at.

and also what happen to the doctor and first aid skill? Remeber back in Fallout 1 & 2, where you could cure your status or heal your heatlh without stimpaks if your skilldex was high enough. In Fallout 3, all you got to do find a safe place and rest. LAME.

[QUOTE="dthach614"] Fallout 1 and 2 are so freaking awesome. I just try to act like FO3 is a sick spinoff.... :?II_Seraphim_II

[QUOTE="dthach614"]I guess nobody here ever played Fallout 1 & 2 before..ZIMdoom

I stand by my comment. Your opinion is wrong.

I guess you can tack on an automated targeting system and a leveling up system(which btw, your character will cap off at level 2o, wtf??) and call it a RPG.

This game is trash. It just oblivion with guns. dthach614

or you can just download a simple mod and have an unlimted level cap, problem solved.

maybe not, but its the MOST important aspect for me. I do value a good story(Final Fantasy games) also. but I couldnt bare the crappy FO3 combat. And a good leveling system, which also failed at.

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Again, then you're not an rpg gamer if the combat and story are ahead of role-playing.

Final Fantasy ar not rpg.

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^ I'm a Fallout fan and think some things where changed for the better, others for the worse, other remained the same be they good or bad.

Wow, alot of Fallout 3 hate here.

I'm actually surprised. As much as I dislike Oblivion, I really enjoyed Fallout 3. There's tons to do.

I'm not trying to say Fallout 1 & 2's combat system is the greatest of all time. Cause its not. i will admit that. but it work fine.

what i will say is that fallout 3's combat system is trash. and shouldnt even be label as an RPG. It just a FPS with a targeting system.

[QUOTE="dthach614"]I guess you can tack on an automated targeting system and a leveling up system(which btw, your character will cap off at level 2o, wtf??) and call it a RPG.

This game is trash. It just oblivion with guns. warmaster670

or you can just download a simple mod and have an unlimted level cap, problem solved.

on xbox 360???

I actually quite enjoy the game, which for me is what is most important if you are going to play.

I will say this:

The game is Oblivion with guns, really it is. That doesn't make it worse for me as I like Oblivion and thing they did a decent job, as well as enjoy the atmosphere, but it doesn't change the fact that unless you nit-pick, that is the best comparison. I mean for goodness sake the two games have the exact same background music. They at least could have created a different score for walking around the world.

I never played the original Fallout games, so I wasn't looking for the game to be anything in particular. Though I will say that if you wanted FO3 to be FO1 or FO2, then you probably shouldn't have bought the game. It was pretty clearly going to be different (heck, I figured that out from screenshots).

It isn't perfect, there are jaggies all over the place and the constant screentears make it look worse than Oblivion, but like I said, I enjoy playing it.

Any complaints about the level 20 level max should just stop, cause it is such old news it is rediculous. They were talking about this way back in the first preview presented in GI in like May 07. The idea is that you don't get to create a superhuman, you have to stratigically guide your characters growth. While I admit it takes away from the playability once you hit that level, no one should be surprised that it is how the game works.

Is it trash? No. Is it for everyone? Definitely not. Anyone that wants to play an FPS should walk away from this game as the targeting sucks and the movement is bulky. Anyone looking to play Elder Scrolls should also probably avoid this one as it is too much like an FPS. But I recomend this game to anyone that wants to explore a decent looking, engrossing, world with lots to do and an interesting premise. I have enjoyed the time I spent in ruined DC and like I said, that's all I really hope to get out of a game.

It just oblivion with guns.dthach614

= Instant win and a first-day purchase for me.

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maybe not, but its the MOST important aspect for me. I do value a good story(Final Fantasy games) also. but I couldnt bare the crappy FO3 combat. And a good leveling system, which also failed at.

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Again, then you're not an rpg gamer if the combat and story are ahead of role-playing.

Final Fantasy ar not rpg.

Enlighten me then. you mean like, you get a a character and have the option to choose his actions throughout the game? I get it. but for me, and rpg need more that. so please enlighten me.

Dont tell im not an "rpg gamer" everybody got their preference alright? dont give me that bs. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion.

I played it for about an hour and hated it, started over and followed the main story for a bit before doing sidequests, and loved it, I was annoyed with never finding ammo, and some of the aiming seemed poor, but it got a lot better as it went on.110million

No it didn't, it gave combat depth, and promote tactics. you just not smart enough to grapsh it and thats why you like FO3 because its simple for lazy players like yourself.

Fallout came out before GTA if im not mistaken.

and if Fallout 1 & 2 is bad, then why did bethesda use the name fallout for??? why didnt bethesda just make their own game? it because they too was also fans of the game.

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1] I'm a Fallout fan who played the previous games, and actually enjoyed them, but I don't think they're where the incarnation of perfection.

2] Fallout 2 came after GTA, BTW.

3] Smart ?!

So things like being forced to chose gifted, or suffer with the piss poor Temple of Saves level is being smart ?!

That was forced tactical combat ****y-ness, not role playing.

I'm sick stats based turned based tactical combat being considered an rpg defigning/sine qua non element, and all the (pen n papar) rpg players I know share this same view.

While F3 vanilla (combat) is too easy, I play it with mods, making it more STALKER like terms of combat and difficulty.

4] I never said Fallout 1 and 2 where bad (overall), just flawed/imperfect like F3.

I actually quite enjoy the game, which for me is what is most important if you are going to play.

I will say this:

The game is Oblivion with guns, really it is. That doesn't make it worse for me as I like Oblivion and thing they did a decent job, as well as enjoy the atmosphere, but it doesn't change the fact that unless you nit-pick, that is the best comparison. I mean for goodness sake the two games have the exact same background music. They at least could have created a different score for walking around the world.

I never played the original Fallout games, so I wasn't looking for the game to be anything in particular. Though I will say that if you wanted FO3 to be FO1 or FO2, then you probably shouldn't have bought the game. It was pretty clearly going to be different (heck, I figured that out from screenshots).

It isn't perfect, there are jaggies all over the place and the constant screentears make it look worse than Oblivion, but like I said, I enjoy playing it.

Any complaints about the level 20 level max should just stop, cause it is such old news it is rediculous. They were talking about this way back in the first preview presented in GI in like May 07. The idea is that you don't get to create a superhuman, you have to stratigically guide your characters growth. While I admit it takes away from the playability once you hit that level, no one should be surprised that it is how the game works.

Is it trash? No. Is it for everyone? Definitely not. Anyone that wants to play an FPS should walk away from this game as the targeting sucks and the movement is bulky. Anyone looking to play Elder Scrolls should also probably avoid this one as it is too much like an FPS. But I recomend this game to anyone that wants to explore a decent looking, engrossing, world with lots to do and an interesting premise. I have enjoyed the time I spent in ruined DC and like I said, that's all I really hope to get out of a game.

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why do people always say this in regards to a disapointed "sequals"???? I did NOT wants the same game, I wanted something better which i didnt get. Like i said earlier, Fallout 1 & 2 combat system was NOT the best, but it sure ass hell better than the Fallout 3's FPS with a targeting system.

Enlighten me then. you mean like, you get a a character and have the option to choose his actions throughout the game? I get it. but for me, and rpg need more that. so please enlighten me.

Dont tell im not an "rpg gamer" everybody got their preference alright? dont give me that bs. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion.

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You don't get a character, you make/are the character (role).

If you like/play/enjoy turned-based adventures (FF for example) then and you're turn based adventure fan/gamer, not an rpg gamer.

I dislike the fact that Bethesda (or any other company) didn't pushed the rpg genre and droped the whole leveling and main story non-sense altogether.

Just let the player make his story.

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[QUOTE="dthach614"]I guess nobody here ever played Fallout 1 & 2 before..dthach614

I stand by my comment. Your opinion is wrong.

the combat system is trash. the combat system is the core of an rpg for me atleast. If the combat system is trash, then the game is trash.

It's annoying as hell when you use VATS and the game goes in slow motion and the camera goes nuts. Why does it go in slow motion?? You could not disrupt the flow of the combat any more than what bethesda did.

The fact that the game pause when you use VATS defeat the whole purpose of it a real time combat.

this game just suck what a disappointment

It has ZERO impact on the game to have slow motion. And vats in Fallout 3 is identical to vats in the othe games. The only difference being the "slow motion" and pause you speak of. If you don't like it and only want real time fighting, then play it as a FPS. Don't use vats. Problem solved.

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No it didn't, it gave combat depth, and promote tactics. you just not smart enough to grapsh it and thats why you like FO3 because its simple for lazy players like yourself.

Fallout came out before GTA if im not mistaken.

and if Fallout 1 & 2 is bad, then why did bethesda use the name fallout for??? why didnt bethesda just make their own game? it because they too was also fans of the game.

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1] I'm a Fallout fan who played the previous games, and actually enjoyed them, but I don't think they're where the incarnation of perfection.

2] Fallout 2 came after GTA, BTW.

3] Smart ?!

So things like being forced to chose gifted, or suffer with the piss poor Temple of Saves level is being smart ?!

That was forced tactical combat ****y-ness, not role playing.

I'm sick stats based turned based tactical combat being considered an rpg defigning/sine qua non element, and all the (pen n papar) rpg players I know share this same view.

While F3 vanilla (combat) is too easy, I play it with mods, making it more STALKER like terms of combat and difficulty.

4] I never said Fallout 1 and 2 where bad (overall), just flawed/imperfect like F3.

1. i didnt say 1 and 2 is perfect. i said they are better

2. when did fallout 1 come out?

3. why isnt the combat role playing? explain that to me. and fallout 3's combat is?? lol

mods are not available on console.

i do not care about the people you know. why even bring them up? running out of arguements. lol "well umm so and so would agree with me" lol..