Fallout 3 will >>> every single player RPG in RPG gaming history

It's Bethesda. They made Oblivion and we know that is up there at the top.

Also Bethesda makes Incredible RPG's Only other Developer who stands at the top with them is Bioware.

And honestly here people have you seen the Fallout 3 gameplay trailer. OMFG it's like crazy gruesome also. With incredible carnage.

Fallout 3 will wipe every other competitors RPG off the face of the earth. Until maybe Bioware has something to say about it. As for any jRPG's just pack up and go back to your caves for a long very long time. As a matter of fact just never come back out. Because Western RPG's >>> you guys it's not even funny.

It's Bethesda. They made Oblivion and we know that is up there at the top.

Also Bethesda makes Incredible RPG's Only other Developer who stands at the top with them is Bioware.

And honestly here people have you seen the Fallout 3 gameplay trailer. OMFG it's like crazy gruesome also. With incredible carnage.

Fallout 3 will wipe every other competitors RPG off the face of the earth. Until maybe Bioware has something to say about it. As for any jRPG's just pack up and to to your caves for a long very long time. As a matter of fact just never come back out. Because Western RPG's >>> you guys it's not even funny.

Dur_Rocky

i agree to a certain extent that fallout 3 will own majority of rpg's but to say every single rpg to get owned is just silly

Only if your standards for RPGs a very very... very low.

Bethesda doesn't make proper RPGs anymore; they make Action RPGs for the broadest audience possible, turning it into something any lobotomised idiot can appreciate.

I'm getting the feeling that Fallout 3 is going to get in the way of me putting more time into Too Human & Fable 2 - in a good way !

Can't wait to give this game some playtime. :D

However, You may have gone a bit overboard with your prediction.

If you're a fakeboy; well done. Hermits incoming. :P

Only if your standards for RPGs a very very... very low.

Bethesda doesn't make proper RPGs anymore; they make Action RPGs for the broadest audience possible, turning it into something any lobotomised idiot can appreciate.

AnnoyedDragon

Action RPG is still an RPG.

Though I say Dragon Age will be if it lives up to the promises, a very indepth choice system ect, if they match the content that Baldurs Gate II had ... then my god ... RPG of the century.

Only if your standards for RPGs a very very... very low.

Bethesda doesn't make proper RPGs anymore; they make Action RPGs for the broadest audience possible, turning it into something any lobotomised idiot can appreciate.

AnnoyedDragon

I thought games were supposed to try to please everyone:roll: Wait you are saying they should only make a game that apearls to the super geeky type that can only understand super geeky type Rpg's:roll:

Yeah that makes perfect sense. Bethesda should only go after a small market and limit themselves financially? Besides what's wrong with Action RPG's? It's just and evolving cycle. I think adding more action to these RPG's is what has made then so darn poperlar now anyway.

Well, it's nice to see some enthusiasm, but if the combat system is as crappy as Oblivions', I wont touch it.

It's Bethesda. They made Oblivion and we know that is up there at the top.

Also Bethesda makes Incredible RPG's Only other Developer who stands at the top with them is Bioware.

Dur_Rocky

Honestly, both companies are highly overrated, imo.

Bioware have only really made two "great" RPGs - BG2 and KOTOR - and even then they didn't do a great job with the role-playing aspects (they essentially relied on generic good/evil choices, and the npcs were quite unresponsive compared to other RPGs).

Bethesda are great at making huge freeroaming worlds, but have arguably been going downhill lately.

As for Fallout 3, even if it somehow manages to top the first two Fallout games, that wouldn't automatically make it the best RPG ever. The best of its type, maybe, but you couldn't really compare it to a story-driven, emotionally engaging RPG like Planescape Torment or The Witcher.

No.

Fallout 3 will not be better than Fallout, Fallout 2, Planescape: Torment, Baldur's Gate 2, Arcanum, Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, KotOR etc.

Fallout 3 is the only game this generation that has managed to almost uniformly alienate fans of the series.

REALLY THINK about that.

These are the people who should be the most irrationally obsequious. Yet these are the people who have the biggest problem with Fallout 3.

I'm getting the feeling that Fallout 3 is going to get in the way of me putting more time into Too Human & Fable 2 - in a good way !

Can't wait to give this game some playtime. :D

However, You may have gone a bit overboard with your prediction.

SecretPolice

I'm going to play Too Human for a solid few months. And then get Fallout 3 and Fable 2. Darn you are right crap too many RPG's for the 360. OMG 360 is the RPG king:shock:

I thought games were supposed to try to please everyone:roll: Wait you are saying they should only make a game that apearls to the super geeky type that can only understand super geeky type Rpg's:roll:

Yeah that makes perfect sense. Bethesda should only go after a small market and limit themselves financially? Besides what's wrong with Action RPG's? It's just and evolving cycle. I think adding more action to these RPG's is what has made then so darn poperlar now anyway.

Dur_Rocky

out of curiosity, how do you feel about the Wii?

No.

Fallout 3 will not be better than Fallout, Fallout 2, Planescape: Torment, Baldur's Gate 2, Arcanum, Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, KotOR etc.

RobbieH1234

Vampire Masquerade:?

No.

Fallout 3 will not be better than Fallout, Fallout 2, Planescape: Torment, Baldur's Gate 2, Arcanum, Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, KotOR etc.

RobbieH1234

I thought games were supposed to try to please everyone:roll:

Dur_Rocky

Any game designed with this mantra at its core is doomed to fail.

[QUOTE="RobbieH1234"]

No.

Fallout 3 will not be better than Fallout, Fallout 2, Planescape: Torment, Baldur's Gate 2, Arcanum, Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, KotOR etc.

Dur_Rocky

Vampire Masquerade:?

Might want to play a few more RPGs before you claim Fallout 3 will own every RPG in RPG history.

Right, I still have doubts about FO3...

I'm pretty sure its going to be a good game but, I really doubt that it will be a better RPG then FO1 or FO2...

As an Action RPG...dunno how good it could be but I'll be really suprised if its better then Deus Ex or Bloodlines...

[QUOTE="Dur_Rocky"]

I thought games were supposed to try to please everyone:roll: Wait you are saying they should only make a game that apearls to the super geeky type that can only understand super geeky type Rpg's:roll:

Yeah that makes perfect sense. Bethesda should only go after a small market and limit themselves financially? Besides what's wrong with Action RPG's? It's just and evolving cycle. I think adding more action to these RPG's is what has made then so darn poperlar now anyway.

Hewkii

out of curiosity, how do you feel about the Wii?

It's ok. It's like a good thing for a quick play but then the gimmick wares off fast. Then i want my hardcore gameplay. So this is why 360 fits the bill as the big dog for me.

Let's wait and see when it comes out, it could turn out horrible and then who's dissapointed? Plus, there are some other good looking RPG's out this year that you might want to keep an eye on.

[QUOTE="Dur_Rocky"]

I thought games were supposed to try to please everyone:roll:

Danm_999

Any game designed with this mantra at its core is doomed to fail.

No.

Fallout 3 will not be better than Fallout, Fallout 2, Planescape: Torment, Baldur's Gate 2, Arcanum, Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, KotOR etc.

RobbieH1234

It probably won't be a better RPG than The Witcher either. Hell Deus Ex is more of an RPG than Fallout 3 will be and there's no way Fallout 3 will be better than DE

[QUOTE="RobbieH1234"]

No.

Fallout 3 will not be better than Fallout, Fallout 2, Planescape: Torment, Baldur's Gate 2, Arcanum, Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, KotOR etc.

Dur_Rocky

Vampire Masquerade:?

Bugs aside (they've all got bugs), Bloodlines was a fantastic RPG.
A bit too action-heavy at times, maybe, but it provided players with a number of ways of approaching any situation, which is always desirable in an RPG.

Might want to play a few more RPGs before you claim Fallout 3 will own every RPG in RPG history.

Danm_999

[QUOTE="Dur_Rocky"][QUOTE="RobbieH1234"]

No.

Fallout 3 will not be better than Fallout, Fallout 2, Planescape: Torment, Baldur's Gate 2, Arcanum, Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, KotOR etc.

Planeforger

Vampire Masquerade:?

Bugs aside (they've all got bugs), Bloodlines was a fantastic RPG.
A bit too action-heavy at times, maybe, but it provided players with a number of ways of approaching any situation, which is always desirable in an RPG.

The only major problem the game had that couldn't be fixed by patches was the last two hours or so IMO.

Right, I still have doubts about FO3...

I'm pretty sure its going to be a good game but, I really doubt that it will be a better RPG then FO1 or FO2...

As an Action RPG...dunno how good it could be but I'll be really suprised if its better then Deus Ex or Bloodlines...

HeatBoX

Well yeah Deus Ex will be tough to top. I have Deus Ex as of now as my #1 action Rpg on my list and i think it might be my #1 game period. But Fallout 3 looks like it could be something special.

You just enjoy making outlandish topics, huh?

Left 4 Dead >>> Rehash 5

Valve may >>> Sony. And end Sony for good.

Xbox Live >>> PC online

The REAL Too Human demo REVIEW. If you want TRUTH? Can you handle it?

Why would I take this topic seriously?

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I furgot da funney

I thought games were supposed to try to please everyone:roll: Wait you are saying they should only make a game that apearls to the super geeky type that can only understand super geeky type Rpg's:roll:

Yeah that makes perfect sense. Bethesda should only go after a small market and limit themselves financially? Besides what's wrong with Action RPG's? It's just and evolving cycle. I think adding more action to these RPG's is what has made then so darn poperlar now anyway.

Dur_Rocky

No I just think when someone makes a Fallout game they should make a Fallout game, of course such a feat seems beyond Bethesda.

Action RPGs are fine when that is how the game is supposed to be; Bethesda doing this to Fallout is entirly to milk as many customers as possible, with absolutly no respect for the franchise and what Fallout stands for.

That the people who are getting their first taste of the Fallout franchise would hate 'all' the games in the series says plenty of how consistent Fallout 3 is with the franchise. That "super geeky" comes to mind when you think of Fallout, but you are hyped for Fallout 3, says plenty of what they have done to the game.

You just enjoy making outlandish topics, huh?

Left 4 Dead >>> Rehash 5

Valve may >>> Sony. And end Sony for good.

Xbox Live >>> PC online

The REAL Too Human demo REVIEW. If you want TRUTH? Can you handle it?

Why would I take this topic seriously?

SpruceCaboose

A lot agree with all these topics. Not all but a lot do.

That "super geeky" comes to mind when you think of Fallout, but you are hyped for Fallout 3, says plenty of what they have done to the game.AnnoyedDragon

[QUOTE="Dur_Rocky"]

I thought games were supposed to try to please everyone:roll: Wait you are saying they should only make a game that apearls to the super geeky type that can only understand super geeky type Rpg's:roll:

Yeah that makes perfect sense. Bethesda should only go after a small market and limit themselves financially? Besides what's wrong with Action RPG's? It's just and evolving cycle. I think adding more action to these RPG's is what has made then so darn poperlar now anyway.

AnnoyedDragon

No I just think when someone makes a Fallout game they should make a Fallout game, of course such a feat seems beyond Bethesda.

Action RPGs are fine when that is how the game is supposed to be; Bethesda doing this to Fallout is entirly to milk as many customers as possible, with absolutly no respect to the franchise and what Fallout stands for.

That the people who are getting their first taste of the Fallout franchise would hate 'all' the games in the series says plenty of how consistent Fallout 3 is with the franchise. That "super geeky" comes to mind when you think of Fallout, but you are hyped for Fallout 3, says plenty of what they have done to the game.

Honestly you r aWRONG and WAY off base. Bethesda is only doing what they can with better technoligy. You see back in the Fallout 1-2 days. It was not the norm for open ended 3d open worlds it was not able to be done really at the time. Atleast not at a good degree.

Now they can so they are going with the much better graphics and tech to make it a huge open ended world.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

You just enjoy making outlandish topics, huh?

Left 4 Dead >>> Rehash 5

Valve may >>> Sony. And end Sony for good.

Xbox Live >>> PC online

The REAL Too Human demo REVIEW. If you want TRUTH? Can you handle it?

Why would I take this topic seriously?

Dur_Rocky

A lot agree with all these topics. Not all but a lot do.

Doesn't make them less outlandish. Many here would agree that the Wii isn't a game system as well. ;)

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]That "super geeky" comes to mind when you think of Fallout, but you are hyped for Fallout 3, says plenty of what they have done to the game.Jandurin

I just think back in the day most the diehard software geeks could only get into these games. But now with a more open world more people can relate to RPG's

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"][QUOTE="Dur_Rocky"]

I thought games were supposed to try to please everyone:roll: Wait you are saying they should only make a game that apearls to the super geeky type that can only understand super geeky type Rpg's:roll:

Yeah that makes perfect sense. Bethesda should only go after a small market and limit themselves financially? Besides what's wrong with Action RPG's? It's just and evolving cycle. I think adding more action to these RPG's is what has made then so darn poperlar now anyway.

Dur_Rocky

No I just think when someone makes a Fallout game they should make a Fallout game, of course such a feat seems beyond Bethesda.

Action RPGs are fine when that is how the game is supposed to be; Bethesda doing this to Fallout is entirly to milk as many customers as possible, with absolutly no respect to the franchise and what Fallout stands for.

That the people who are getting their first taste of the Fallout franchise would hate 'all' the games in the series says plenty of how consistent Fallout 3 is with the franchise. That "super geeky" comes to mind when you think of Fallout, but you are hyped for Fallout 3, says plenty of what they have done to the game.

Honestly you r aWRONG and WAY off base. Bethesda is only doing what they can with better technoligy. You see back in the Fallout 1-2 days. It was not the norm for open ended 3d open worlds it was not able to be done really at the time. Atleast not at a good degree.

Now they can so they are going with the much better graphics and tech to make it a huge open ended world.

Doesn't make them less outlandish. Many here would agree that the Wii isn't a game system as well. ;)

SpruceCaboose

It's ok. It's like a good thing for a quick play but then the gimmick wares off fast. Then i want my hardcore gameplay. So this is why 360 fits the bill as the big dog for me.

Dur_Rocky

I see, so hypocrisy. oh well, most people do that.

Honestly you r aWRONG and WAY off base. Bethesda is only doing what they can with better technoligy. You see back in the Fallout 1-2 days. It was not the norm for open ended 3d open worlds it was not able to be done really at the time. Atleast not at a good degree.

Now they can so they are going with the much better graphics and tech to make it a huge open ended world.

Dur_Rocky

Improving a game with the times is not turning a RPG into a FPS/Action/RPG in that order, it is about using modern technology to improve on the 'original formula' (Eg. Neverwinter Nights 2). By your reasoning all those famous isometric RPGs that have withstood the test of time because of their original and well crafted game worlds should be turned into Action RPGs your average GOW player would appreciate.

You have no interest in what is right or wrong, all you are interested in is Fallout has been turned into something you can enjoy.

[QUOTE="Dur_Rocky"]

Honestly you r aWRONG and WAY off base. Bethesda is only doing what they can with better technoligy. You see back in the Fallout 1-2 days. It was not the norm for open ended 3d open worlds it was not able to be done really at the time. Atleast not at a good degree.

Now they can so they are going with the much better graphics and tech to make it a huge open ended world.

AnnoyedDragon

Improving a game with the times is not turning a RPG into a FPS/Action/RPG in that order, it is about using modern technology to improve on the 'original formula' (Eg. Neverwinter Nights 2). By your reasoning all those famous isometric RPGs that have withstood the test of time because of their original and well crafted game worlds should be turned into Action RPGs your average GOW player would appreciate.

You have no interest in what is right or wrong, all you are interested in is Fallout has been turned into something you can enjoy.

i can honesly say that if Fallout 3 was kept like 1-2 most would be saying it's the same why don't they change it and use modern tech to do this. No one is ever truly satisfied.

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"][QUOTE="Dur_Rocky"]

Honestly you r aWRONG and WAY off base. Bethesda is only doing what they can with better technoligy. You see back in the Fallout 1-2 days. It was not the norm for open ended 3d open worlds it was not able to be done really at the time. Atleast not at a good degree.

Now they can so they are going with the much better graphics and tech to make it a huge open ended world.

Dur_Rocky

Improving a game with the times is not turning a RPG into a FPS/Action/RPG in that order, it is about using modern technology to improve on the 'original formula' (Eg. Neverwinter Nights 2). By your reasoning all those famous isometric RPGs that have withstood the test of time because of their original and well crafted game worlds should be turned into Action RPGs your average GOW player would appreciate.

You have no interest in what is right or wrong, all you are interested in is Fallout has been turned into something you can enjoy.

i can honesly say that if Fallout 3 was kept like 1-2 most would be saying it's the same why don't they change it and use modern tech to do this. No one is ever truly satisfied.

Fallout 3 could've been just like that, but instead Bethesda is making it into an FPS.

I saw the trailer and this looks like a half ass shooting game than a RPG. If I didn't know what Fallout was I thought it would had been a first person shooter with a hacking mini game. This is a bad RPG AND a bad action game and there won't be a editor. I'm not picking up this peice of junk. It isn't making RPGs better... it's just making action games worst.

i can honesly say that if Fallout 3 was kept like 1-2 most would be saying it's the same why don't they change it and use modern tech to do this. No one is ever truly satisfied.

Dur_Rocky

You do realize there are two Fallout 3s? The first one was never finished due to business complications and guess what, it was updated with existing technology available at the time without perverting itself into a different game.

I say the trailer and this looks like a half ass shooting game then a RPG. If I didn't know what Fallout was I thought it would had been a first person shooter with a hacking mini game. This is a bad RPG AND a bad action game and there won't be a editor. I'm not picking up this peice of crap.

Nerkcon

How can you say this? You think it's not going to have a deep RPG system:roll: And i'm sorry and most agree the carnage in the game looks to be down right bad ass.

Honestly i think this game is going to be Dues Ex in an open ended freeroaming world in a nuclear wasteland. How could anyone not be super pumped for this game?