FarCry 2 AI Is A step Forward?

Apart from the silly bugs the AI is pretty amazing, I've been out flanked so many times on missions it makes for a good tactical shooter.

Apart from the flanking the enemies are pretty hard to see against the backgrounds, of course the computer knows where you are at all times, but it forces you to think out your battle plan.

Is this AI not a step forward (ignoring the silly bugs)?

I haven't played FC2 but from what you described it isn't even remotely a step foreward.Vaasman

I didn't describe much, this was aimed at people who have played the game really.

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]I haven't played FC2 but from what you described it isn't even remotely a step foreward.Jafool

I didn't describe much, this was aimed at people who have played the game really.

[QUOTE="Jafool"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]I haven't played FC2 but from what you described it isn't even remotely a step foreward.Vaasman

I didn't describe much, this was aimed at people who have played the game really.

Well of course flanking is a basic premise when it comes to warfare, I'm just asking I guess at how well it's been implemented in FC2.

Yes and no. Its really just scripts set-up in intelligent order (by the devs) and then followed thro with scripted intelligent reaction (made by the devs, its all just the usual scripts, but done very well.). SO its nothing new, but its done great so people think its new and amazing. I say the devs deserve credit but the AI shouldn' be hailed as a step-forward in AI because its not, its just the same old thing as in every other game. It just has some better procedures and scripts for the AI.LibertySaint

I appreciate your opinion, but what for you currently has the best AI in a FPS?

Rainbow six vegas has AI that i think is a step forward.

And HAlf life 2.

[QUOTE="LibertySaint"]Yes and no. Its really just scripts set-up in intelligent order (by the devs) and then followed thro with scripted intelligent reaction (made by the devs, its all just the usual scripts, but done very well.). SO its nothing new, but its done great so people think its new and amazing. I say the devs deserve credit but the AI shouldn' be hailed as a step-forward in AI because its not, its just the same old thing as in every other game. It just has some better procedures and scripts for the AI.Jafool

I appreciate your opinion, but what for you currently has the best AI in a FPS?

Rainbow six vegas has AI that i think is a step forward.

And HAlf life 2.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Vegas 2 yeah, but HL2 was nothing special.

I agree with you. The A.I is so good that it makes me want to play more and more lol. The only problem I have with the game is that no matter how hard I try, I can't seem to get a guy to limp when I snipe his leg...he always notices me and and runs toward me [ so much for that "deception" trailer =( ]....

Anyways, the A.I is so good at hiding and assassinating that I actually have to stand there and wait for them to shoot me so that I can detect where they're hiding.

Definately the most fun I've had in a game for quite some time now.

I think its more of the environment that makes the game harder. Its hard to tell where some guys are at when you are in a dense area of bush and forest. Like some else said. Sometimes its better to wait for them to shoot you so you know where there at. Im not to overly impressed but Ive only played 5-6 main story missions. So im hoping that as I go on the enemies become a lot smarter. There have been some cool enemy actions that I have seen especially when sniping. I sniped a guy or two at one spot and then moved so I wouldnt give away where I was at. Then I looked back at where I was before and there were three guys in that vacinity looking for me.

I think there needs to be a sneak button so you can walk slowly and make very little noise so you can walk up to a guy and knife them. Thats one thing I think they should have added.

Hmmmm is Far Cry 2 or Crysis AI better?????chessboxer1

Crysis. The AI in that game actually remembers things - for example, if you throw a rock, they'll go check it out; then you throw a stick, and they try to find what made the noise; after a while, they return to see what caused the previous noise. Also, they get scared, confused, run away etc.

The Clear Sky AI is also incredible, it's combat tactics are absolutely fantastic. Think at FEAR, only outside: they flank, they keep you pinned down while others try to sneak up on you, they use cover, retreat, harass, have a fantastic grenade throwing skill... It's just amazing, it feels like you're fighting real people.

Also, overall, the AI system is one of the most advanced (if not the most advanced): it controls the NPCs in every level, not only in the one you're playing; it controls the mutants' basic needs (food, sleep); there are random fights between creatures; the monsters and the other stalkers pursue their own goals, migrate from a level to another etc; also, in Clear Sky there's a giant metagame, the Faction Wars, where the human factions fight in a fashion a bit similar to Battlefield's to take over the game world. The NPCs can even complete some quests before you do.

A step forward compared to what? Farcry 2's AI is mostly competent, and that's about as generous as I can get describing it, but its really all that matters too, that at least they put up a decent fight despite all the hilarious irregularities.

The most common problem I've seen is that *a lot* of enemies tend to just standaround doing nothing while I kill all their friends.

The A.i. is damn good, and the way its been programmed to communicate and talk amongst eachother with audio bytes is fantastic.

However they are extrememly bug prone - about 15 times i have seen them standing there blankly, or being stuck in static meshes.

This happens with complex a.i. - e.g. Crysis.

The a.i. is good, damn good, but its not a leap fowards at all, especially from Crysis's last year.

In many regards in combat it may be exelllent...... but in an open world sense its horrible especially compared to STALKERs A-Life a.i.

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

Rainbow six vegas has AI that i think is a step forward.

And HAlf life 2.

Jafool

Vegas 2 yeah, but HL2 was nothing special.

Episode 1 however was a huge step foward with its exellent companion a.i. - the best in any game to date.

As for Vegas. Bah, the a.i. is nothing short of 'meh' in my eyes. I always feel asthough im babysitting the two goons, and without the complex tactical nature, and pre planning of the original series, ordering the a.i. feels knowhere as sharp or compelling.

Far Cry 2 has horrible AI. There is very little about Far Cry 2 AI that distinguishes itself as superior to past games like F.E.A.R. or Halo in terms of artificial intelligence, and the positive aspects of the AI is completely overshadowed by the abyssmal aspects that the very same AI shares.

I will give Ubisoft credit with some unique abilities the AI utilizes, such as enemies healing and reviving one another or how agressive the AI may be from time to time. That being said, though, the AI is very moronic when it comes to actual combat; being able to see you within a cluster of bushes during the darkness of night is annoying, and the fact that they sometimes can't even detect you two feet in front of them baffles me as well.

Also, why does it seem that the AI, when in a vehicle, tends to drive mindlessly towards you, slams into your own car, and then gets out and starts shooting you? It's yet another example of bad coding within the game.

Oh, and don't even get me started about how one can hear you while shooting a silenced weapon (such as the MP5), no matter how far away you may be. It takes away the entire reason a weapon may be silenced--for stealth purposes.

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]I haven't played FC2 but from what you described it isn't even remotely a step foreward.Jafool

I didn't describe much, this was aimed at people who have played the game really.

Left 4 Dead on either Advanced or Expert, say NO. :P

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