FCC data point at a 2.75 GHZ maximum speed for the PS4 CPU.

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#1 tormentos
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Sony's PS4 dev kit passed by the FCC roughly a week ago, and now its consumer-oriented counterpart has passed through Uncle Sam's offices. Not only do the federal documents show the consoles' polished exterior, but they once again note a "max clock frequency" of 2.75GHz, teasing just what kind of horsepower sits inside the black parallelogram.


http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/22/sony-playstation-4-fcc/



Interesting it was once hint that sony increased the CPU speed who knows,if they do like the PSP and increment the speed as they move on.


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That's probably just the theoratical max, but because of heat issues they'll never achieve it.

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#3 II_Seraphim_II
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That's probably just the theoratical max, but because of heat issues they'll never achieve it.

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What this guy said.
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#4 tormentos
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That's probably just the theoratical max, but because of heat issues they'll never achieve it.

deeliman

 

It was already address as the memory speed..

 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=72312121&postcount=256

 

Damn thread failed i wanted to so bad to hear sertain poster make claim that the xbox one could go as high as 4.0 ghz because on PC they can..:lol:

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 but they once again note a "max clock frequency" of 2.75GHz,

That's a max peak. It probably won't be practical to hit that all the time 

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 but they once again note a "max clock frequency" of 2.75GHz,seanmcloughlin

That's a max peak. It probably won't be practical to hit that all the time 

only the ps4 according to El tormo can hit any theoretical speed. bottlenecks, and overheating do not mean anything to the ps4.
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#7 faizan_faizan
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That's probably just the theoratical max, but because of heat issues they'll never achieve it.

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Waiting on rovalencia's charts.
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#9 muscleserge
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Since its an APU, you can't just raise the clocks on the CPU or the GPU, without having sufficient cooling, the hotter the CPU gets, the hotter the GPU will get and vise versa. Plus there are power consumption issues as well. Besides rasing the clocks even to this theoretical max still wouldn't make that CPU powerful anyway, its a laptop part designed for efficiency first.
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#10 tormentos
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[QUOTE="deeliman"]

That's probably just the theoratical max, but because of heat issues they'll never achieve it.

faizan_faizan

 

How is that any different from any other part with a theorical max.?

 

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Lol 2.75 being max.
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People this is confirmed to be the memory speed,not the CPU one,read my second post...:lol:

 

Some of you are to blind and join the thread without reading apparently..:lol:

 

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Lol 2.75 being max.dramaybaz
This as well. :lol:
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People this is confirmed to be the memory speed,not the CPU one,read my second post...:lol:

 

Some of you are to blind and join the thread without reading apparently..:lol:

 

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Why are you creating a misleading topic then?

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My CPU hits 3.8GHz under turbo. Also, loltormentos thread.
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People this is confirmed to be the memory speed,not the CPU one,read my second post...:lol:

Some of you are to blind and join the thread without reading apparently..:lol:

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[QUOTE="deeliman"]

That's probably just the theoratical max, but because of heat issues they'll never achieve it.

tormentos

 

It was already address as the memory speed..

 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=72312121&postcount=256

 

Damn thread failed i wanted to so bad to hear sertain poster make claim that the xbox one could go as high as 4.0 ghz because on PC they can..:lol:

 

FX 8350 can do 8ghz on 1 core with liquid nitrogen, you think this is normal?

 

My 2500k can do 5.2ghz on 4 cores, you think that is normal?

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#18 deactivated-5c8ff6a32bb23
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lol 2.75
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#19 nameless12345
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These rumours remind me on 3DS and WiiU "theoretical" maximum clock speeds...

But I think the Jaguar could run at 1.8-2.4 GHz range without overheating.

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They haven't factored in AMD's PRT and X1's ESRAM.

As for DF...

In reference to http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-saboteur-aa-blog-entry and I quote.

"In the meantime, what we have is something that's new and genuinely exciting from a technical standpoint. We're seeing PS3 attacking a visual problem using a method that not even the most high-end GPUs are using."

Eurogamer didn't factor in AMD's http://developer.amd.com/gpu_assets/AA-HPG09.pdf

It was later corrected by Christer Ericson, director of tools and technology at Sony Santa Monica and I quote

"The screenshots may not be showing MLAA, and it's almost certainly not a technique as experimental as we thought it was, but it's certainly the case that this is the most impressive form of this type of anti-aliasing we've seen to date in a console game. Certainly, as we alluded to originally, the concept of using an edge-filter/blur combination isn't new, and continues to be refined. This document by Isshiki and Kunieda published in 1999 suggested a similar technique, and, more recently, AMD's Iourcha, Yang and Pomianowski suggested a more advanced version of the same basic idea".

AMD's Iourcha, Yang and Pomianowski's papers refers to http://developer.amd.com/gpu_assets/AA-HPG09.pdf

To quote AMD's paper "This filter is the basis for the Edge-Detect Custom Filter AA driver feature on ATI Radeon HD GPUs".

Eurogamer's "not even the most high-end GPU are using" assertion would be wrong. From top to bottom GPUs, current ATI GPUs supports Direct3D 10.1 and methods menstioned AMD's AA paper.

These console jokers doesn't know about AMD.

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Powerful weak!
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They haven't factored in AMD's PRT and X1's ESRAM.

 

As for DF...

 

In reference to http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-saboteur-aa-blog-entry and I quote.

"In the meantime, what we have is something that's new and genuinely exciting from a technical standpoint. We're seeing PS3 attacking a visual problem using a method that not even the most high-end GPUs are using."

Eurogamer didn't factor in AMD's http://developer.amd.com/gpu_assets/AA-HPG09.pdf

It was later corrected by Christer Ericson, director of tools and technology at Sony Santa Monica and I quote

"The screenshots may not be showing MLAA, and it's almost certainly not a technique as experimental as we thought it was, but it's certainly the case that this is the most impressive form of this type of anti-aliasing we've seen to date in a console game. Certainly, as we alluded to originally, the concept of using an edge-filter/blur combination isn't new, and continues to be refined. This document by Isshiki and Kunieda published in 1999 suggested a similar technique, and, more recently, AMD's Iourcha, Yang and Pomianowski suggested a more advanced version of the same basic idea".

AMD's Iourcha, Yang and Pomianowski's papers refers to http://developer.amd.com/gpu_assets/AA-HPG09.pdf

To quote AMD's paper "This filter is the basis for the Edge-Detect Custom Filter AA driver feature on ATI Radeon HD GPUs".

 

Eurogamer's "not even the most high-end GPU are using" assertion would be wrong. From top to bottom GPUs, current ATI GPUs supports Direct3D 10.1 and methods menstioned AMD's AA paper.

 

These console jokers doesn't know about AMD.

 

 

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Awesome! :lol:

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Nice news! Oh here was the insperation for the design also.

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FX 8350 can do 8ghz on 1 core with liquid nitrogen, you think this is normal?

 

My 2500k can do 5.2ghz on 4 cores, you think that is normal?

AMD655

 

You most have confuse me with some one who gives a damn about your sh** PC,upgrade already that sh** 480GTX is under power vs the PS4.

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They haven't factored in AMD's PRT and X1's ESRAM.

 

As for DF...

 

In reference to http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-saboteur-aa-blog-entry and I quote.

"In the meantime, what we have is something that's new and genuinely exciting from a technical standpoint. We're seeing PS3 attacking a visual problem using a method that not even the most high-end GPUs are using."

Eurogamer didn't factor in AMD's http://developer.amd.com/gpu_assets/AA-HPG09.pdf

It was later corrected by Christer Ericson, director of tools and technology at Sony Santa Monica and I quote

"The screenshots may not be showing MLAA, and it's almost certainly not a technique as experimental as we thought it was, but it's certainly the case that this is the most impressive form of this type of anti-aliasing we've seen to date in a console game. Certainly, as we alluded to originally, the concept of using an edge-filter/blur combination isn't new, and continues to be refined. This document by Isshiki and Kunieda published in 1999 suggested a similar technique, and, more recently, AMD's Iourcha, Yang and Pomianowski suggested a more advanced version of the same basic idea".

AMD's Iourcha, Yang and Pomianowski's papers refers to http://developer.amd.com/gpu_assets/AA-HPG09.pdf

To quote AMD's paper "This filter is the basis for the Edge-Detect Custom Filter AA driver feature on ATI Radeon HD GPUs".

 

Eurogamer's "not even the most high-end GPU are using" assertion would be wrong. From top to bottom GPUs, current ATI GPUs supports Direct3D 10.1 and methods menstioned AMD's AA paper.

 

These console jokers doesn't know about AMD.

 

 

  freedomfreak

 

 

You stolen Ronvalencia post..:lol:

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[QUOTE="AMD655"]

 

FX 8350 can do 8ghz on 1 core with liquid nitrogen, you think this is normal?

 

My 2500k can do 5.2ghz on 4 cores, you think that is normal?

tormentos

 

You most have confuse me with some one who gives a damn about your sh** PC,upgrade already that sh** 480GTX is under power vs the PS4.

 

What the hell are you talking about??

 

Reak of butthurt.

 

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:lol: someone cant read and has the blinders on! :lol:

development kits do not not directly mirror the consumer version of the console.

The development kit has extra ports, and is substantially bigger than the consumer units will be presumably to assist with cooling. The documents state a maximum clock frequency of 2.75GHz for dev kit.....

Also should note that the clockrate could be directly related the GDDR5 clockrate giving  as its dual data rate then effective clock is 5.5GHz

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You do know that the Xbox One is using the same CPU! :|

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lLwi8VL.jpg

 

Even though this may not be the frequency it runs at, the PS4 runs much, much cooler than the PS3 did. I'm curious to see how far they can push it.

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It's not reaching max to keep temps and power draw down.

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so the dreams and hopes were crushed after the article was talking about the speed of the memory and not the CPU :cool:
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:lol: someone cant read and has the blinders on! :lol:

development kits do not not directly mirror the consumer version of the console.

The development kit has extra ports, and is substantially bigger than the consumer units will be presumably to assist with cooling. The documents state a maximum clock frequency of 2.75GHz for dev kit.....

Also should note that the clockrate could be directly related the GDDR5 clockrate giving  as its dual data rate then effective clock is 5.5GHz

04dcarraher

 

It was the system not the dev kit,the dev kit was already aproved a month ago,talkig about no reading...:lol:

 

And i already pointed at the GDDR5 data clockrate it was was my second post on the thread basically 2 or 3 minutes after i made the thread,so you are a day late and a dollar short.:lol:

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Why would they bump up the CPU speed if they can get 1.84 TFLOPS on the stock speed at 1.6ghz??

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My car has a max speed of about 185mph (with the speed delimiter suppressed). But I'm not sure how far I can drive that fast without something breaking or getting into trouble. The same thing applies here. Maximum speed means little.
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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

:lol: someone cant read and has the blinders on! :lol:

development kits do not not directly mirror the consumer version of the console.

The development kit has extra ports, and is substantially bigger than the consumer units will be presumably to assist with cooling. The documents state a maximum clock frequency of 2.75GHz for dev kit.....

Also should note that the clockrate could be directly related the GDDR5 clockrate giving  as its dual data rate then effective clock is 5.5GHz

tormentos

 

It was the system not the dev kit,the dev kit was already aproved a month ago,talkig about no reading...:lol:

 

And i already pointed at the GDDR5 data clockrate it was was my second post on the thread basically 2 or 3 minutes after i made the thread,so you are a day late and a dollar short.:lol:

Aww denial once again? Poor el tormentos..... its about

 Federal Communications Commission report about the 2.75 ghz wifi transceiver

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Even though this may not be the frequency it runs at, the PS4 runs much, much cooler than the PS3 did. I'm curious to see how far they can push it.

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Ofc, a mobile CPU is designed to run more efficient.
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] ...

DF has nothing to do with engadget.com. FCC deals with EM emissions.
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

:lol: someone cant read and has the blinders on! :lol:

development kits do not not directly mirror the consumer version of the console.

The development kit has extra ports, and is substantially bigger than the consumer units will be presumably to assist with cooling. The documents state a maximum clock frequency of 2.75GHz for dev kit.....

Also should note that the clockrate could be directly related the GDDR5 clockrate giving  as its dual data rate then effective clock is 5.5GHz

04dcarraher

 

It was the system not the dev kit,the dev kit was already aproved a month ago,talkig about no reading...:lol:

 

And i already pointed at the GDDR5 data clockrate it was was my second post on the thread basically 2 or 3 minutes after i made the thread,so you are a day late and a dollar short.:lol:

Aww denial once again? Poor el tormentos..... its about the dev kit

ps4devkit2.jpg

ps4devkit3.jpg

Why does the image indicate that the "sample is equivalent to mass-produced items?" Just curious.
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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

 

It was the system not the dev kit,the dev kit was already aproved a month ago,talkig about no reading...:lol:

 

And i already pointed at the GDDR5 data clockrate it was was my second post on the thread basically 2 or 3 minutes after i made the thread,so you are a day late and a dollar short.:lol:

lowkey254

Aww denial once again? Poor el tormentos..... its about the dev kit

about the  Federal Communications Commission and the wirless

ps4devkit2.jpg

ps4devkit3.jpg

Why does the image indicate that the "sample is equivalent to mass-produced items?" Just curious.

 Federal Communications Commission 2.75 GHz is the max speed of the wifi transceiver Thats where you get that equivalentto mass produced  the PS4 and dev kit will have same wifi

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[QUOTE="lowkey254"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

Aww denial once again? Poor el tormentos..... its about the dev kit

about the Federal Communications Commission and the wirless

ps4devkit3.jpg

04dcarraher

Why does the image indicate that the "sample is equivalent to mass-produced items?" Just curious.

Federal Communications Commission 2.75 GHz is the max speed of the wifi transceiver Thats where you get that equivalentto mass produced the PS4 and dev kit will have same wifi

All chips in the computer emits EM radiation.

2.75 Ghz refers to GDDR5's WCLK (for 5.5Gbps).

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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="lowkey254"] Why does the image indicate that the "sample is equivalent to mass-produced items?" Just curious.ronvalencia

Federal Communications Commission 2.75 GHz is the max speed of the wifi transceiver Thats where you get that equivalentto mass produced the PS4 and dev kit will have same wifi

All chips in the computer emits EM radiation.

2.75 Ghz refers to GDDR5's WCLK (for 5.5Gbps).

look at the Wlan info its clearly specs on the wifi not memory
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Sweeeeet. SDC!

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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

 

It was the system not the dev kit,the dev kit was already aproved a month ago,talkig about no reading...:lol:

 

And i already pointed at the GDDR5 data clockrate it was was my second post on the thread basically 2 or 3 minutes after i made the thread,so you are a day late and a dollar short.:lol:

lowkey254

Aww denial once again? Poor el tormentos..... its about the dev kit

ps4devkit2.jpg

ps4devkit3.jpg

Why does the image indicate that the "sample is equivalent to mass-produced items?" Just curious.

Because that sample will be the same as the retail units.
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

Federal Communications Commission 2.75 GHz is the max speed of the wifi transceiver Thats where you get that equivalentto mass produced the PS4 and dev kit will have same wifi

04dcarraher

All chips in the computer emits EM radiation.

2.75 Ghz refers to GDDR5's WCLK (for 5.5Gbps).

look at the Wlan info its clearly specs on the wifi not memory

They can't read :lol:
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lol notebook cpu.
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Waiting on rovalencia's charts.rjdofu
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#48 ShadowriverUB
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That's probably just the theoratical max, but because of heat issues they'll never achieve it.

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Theoretical max of what? Functionality or physical limitations? :p In theory you can pump CPU with any clock frequency but if it's gonna function or not that different question. If you hear that CPU is 2GHz, i it means was build to function in this clock and if you go feather there no guaranty that it will function correcly. but manufactures don't care much what will happen then as you should run CPU on clock that it been designed to, so they don't set any "theoretical max"
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#49 N30F3N1X
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FX 8350 can do 8ghz on 1 core with liquid nitrogen, you think this is normal?

My 2500k can do 5.2ghz on 4 cores, you think that is normal?

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We really should start introducing liquid N to computer cooling systems, it'd solve a lot of problems :P

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#50 deeliman
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[QUOTE="deeliman"]

That's probably just the theoratical max, but because of heat issues they'll never achieve it.

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Theoretical max of what? Functionality or physical limitations? :p In theory you can pump CPU with any clock frequency but if it's gonna function or not that different question. If you hear that CPU is 2GHz, i it means was build to function in this clock and if you go feather there no guaranty that it will function correcly. but manufactures don't care much what will happen then as you should run CPU on clock that it been designed to, so they don't set any "theoretical max"

I meant the max fequence it can in which it can stablelly run. But the article wasn't about the cpu after all.