The Scorpio is a good decision but their lack of risk taking in 1st party/2nd party games is a bad decision. If MS doesn't announce any new games at E3 aside from the usual Halo/Forza stuff, I'm not so sure the Scorpio will be all that exciting.
I'll give them a chance at E3. I don't want to see just games coming out for the next 12 months, though. I need to see them show a strategy for exclusive games and a real direction in terms of games. With both the Switch and PS4 undoubtedly running rich in software, there is real ground for MS to make up for.
Do I think they will? Well, I think this E3 is make or break on that question. CAN they? Never should have been any doubt on the matter. A company that can brag about setting 500 million dollars on fire for NFL content, billion on controller r&d, and God knows what on buying the Minecraft developer should be able to turn around 20-50 million dollar videogame projects like a Pez dispenser.
I'll give them a chance at E3. I don't want to see just games coming out for the next 12 months, though. I need to see them show a strategy for exclusive games and a real direction in terms of games. With both the Switch and PS4 undoubtedly running rich in software, there is real ground for MS to make up for.
Do I think they will? Well, I think this E3 is make or break on that question. CAN they? Never should have been any doubt on the matter. A company that can brag about setting 500 million dollars on fire for NFL content, billion on controller r&d, and God knows what on buying the Minecraft developer should be able to turn around 20-50 million dollar videogame projects like a Pez dispenser.
Exactly E3 is about dream games that are coming down the pipeline 1-2 years down and a steady stream of games what is our xbox one going to be playing 2-3 years out will it be nothing or do they have plans
We can only wait and see. Microsoft needs to take more chances. Their smaller games don't sell as well so they don't like to go in that direction, but they need a more well rounded library. Not every game is going to be a triple A console seller. I suppose what's going to sell the Scorpio is trying to argue that the Scorpio is the place to play the big 3rd party games like Battlefront and Red Dead Redemption 2.
We can only wait and see. Microsoft needs to take more chances. Their smaller games don't sell as well so they don't like to go in that direction, but they need a more well rounded library. Not every game is going to be a triple A console seller. I suppose what's going to sell the Scorpio is trying to argue that the Scorpio is the place to play the big 3rd party games like Battlefront and Red Dead Redemption 2.
This is a must, and after their flop e3 show of 2013.. you can see why they're really cautious, and slowly winning back fans.
They're in a good spot now with the Scorpio coming out and being very consumer friendly, so hopefully they will start to take more risks.
We can only wait and see. Microsoft needs to take more chances. Their smaller games don't sell as well so they don't like to go in that direction, but they need a more well rounded library. Not every game is going to be a triple A console seller. I suppose what's going to sell the Scorpio is trying to argue that the Scorpio is the place to play the big 3rd party games like Battlefront and Red Dead Redemption 2.
This is a must, and after their flop e3 show of 2013.. you can see why they're really cautious, and slowly winning back fans.
They're in a good spot now with the Scorpio coming out and being very consumer friendly, so hopefully they will start to take more risks.
Their fanbase also needs to show up and support those risks too though. Microsoft doesn't take those chances because their consumers don't buy them as much. They'll brag about MS getting those games, but then not enough people buy them.
We can only wait and see. Microsoft needs to take more chances. Their smaller games don't sell as well so they don't like to go in that direction, but they need a more well rounded library. Not every game is going to be a triple A console seller. I suppose what's going to sell the Scorpio is trying to argue that the Scorpio is the place to play the big 3rd party games like Battlefront and Red Dead Redemption 2.
This is a must, and after their flop e3 show of 2013.. you can see why they're really cautious, and slowly winning back fans.
They're in a good spot now with the Scorpio coming out and being very consumer friendly, so hopefully they will start to take more risks.
Their fanbase also needs to show up and support those risks too though. Microsoft doesn't take those chances because their consumers don't buy them as much. They'll brag about MS getting those games, but then not enough people buy them.
The problem with MS is that they seem to base 95% of their decisions on either whatever the board members think "the kids are into" or on focus groups full of teenage boys. Thats why most of their unique first party stuff was dropped in favour of the status quo/COD market.
What MS needs to do is get 3rd party studios now to fill the void, get those studios to create new and different games that will showcase the power of the Scorpio.
We can only wait and see. Microsoft needs to take more chances. Their smaller games don't sell as well so they don't like to go in that direction, but they need a more well rounded library. Not every game is going to be a triple A console seller. I suppose what's going to sell the Scorpio is trying to argue that the Scorpio is the place to play the big 3rd party games like Battlefront and Red Dead Redemption 2.
This is a must, and after their flop e3 show of 2013.. you can see why they're really cautious, and slowly winning back fans.
They're in a good spot now with the Scorpio coming out and being very consumer friendly, so hopefully they will start to take more risks.
Their fanbase also needs to show up and support those risks too though. Microsoft doesn't take those chances because their consumers don't buy them as much. They'll brag about MS getting those games, but then not enough people buy them.
The problem with MS is that they seem to base 95% of their decisions on either whatever the board members think "the kids are into" or on focus groups full of teenage boys. Thats why most of their unique first party stuff was dropped in favour of the status quo/COD market.
What MS needs to do is get 3rd party studios now to fill the void, get those studios to create new and different games that will showcase the power of the Scorpio.
Agreed. When Sony was behind they got the support of 3rd party to fill in the void while they got their first party lineup together for the PS4. MS needs to do the same.
The Scorpio is a good decision but their lack of risk taking in 1st party/2nd party games is a bad decision. If MS doesn't announce any new games at E3 aside from the usual Halo/Forza stuff, I'm not so sure the Scorpio will be all that exciting.
Lets pretend that games like Ryse, Quantum Break, Ori and the Blind Forest, Sunset Overdrive, Halo Wars 2 and Recore weren't MS taking risk but making sure deals.
We can only wait and see. Microsoft needs to take more chances. Their smaller games don't sell as well so they don't like to go in that direction, but they need a more well rounded library. Not every game is going to be a triple A console seller. I suppose what's going to sell the Scorpio is trying to argue that the Scorpio is the place to play the big 3rd party games like Battlefront and Red Dead Redemption 2.
They have been taken chances, though a lot of games were cancelled, I think sony has a lot of vaporwear as well. The problem with showing off projects too early, is if the project fails... there is no way to kill it without looking like the bad guys.
Although the biggest problem here is perception... M$'s decisions are divided strangely between xbox/windows and their bad choices are generally lopped together on all their platforms where their good choices they tend to be negated when it shares platform. For instance sea of thieves not an xbox exclusive... a microsoft exclusive... but M$ isn't trying new things because... reasons?
we'd be stuck in Japans horribly behind the times technology and anti-online services if that happened. no thank you.
Eh? Charging for peer-to-peer gaming is a good thing?
Taking the good with the bad, Xbox made console Online actually a "thing" .. any prior attempt was absolutely pathetic, nothing would of changed showing the early days of the PS3. Xbox put consoles in the 21st century... denying what good it did because of the fee (which, Sony and Nintendo... have both decided to do... and you all decide to pay for it!) is just denial.
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@MBirdy88 said:
@metalslimenite said:
Making consoles was a bad decision by Microsoft.
we'd be stuck in Japans horribly behind the times technology and anti-online services if that happened. no thank you.
It's a good thing that the best games don't need high tech or online services.
nice opinion.
Given that Multiplayer games are by far the most played games (outside of mobile apps)... I would say that personal opinion is not shared.
The Scorpio is a good decision but their lack of risk taking in 1st party/2nd party games is a bad decision. If MS doesn't announce any new games at E3 aside from the usual Halo/Forza stuff, I'm not so sure the Scorpio will be all that exciting.
Lets pretend that games like Ryse, Quantum Break, Ori and the Blind Forest, Sunset Overdrive, Halo Wars 2 and Recore weren't MS taking risk but making sure deals.
why are people talking as if E3 already happened and microsoft announced nothing? Or are haters just having fun before the hate train ends in june?
Because its extremely doubtful that anything that they announce at E3 this year will be released this year. MS's fortunes can certainly improve enormously over the course of 2-3 years, but its probably not happening in 2017.
The Scorpio is a good decision but their lack of risk taking in 1st party/2nd party games is a bad decision. If MS doesn't announce any new games at E3 aside from the usual Halo/Forza stuff, I'm not so sure the Scorpio will be all that exciting.
Lets pretend that games like Ryse, Quantum Break, Ori and the Blind Forest, Sunset Overdrive, Halo Wars 2 and Recore weren't MS taking risk but making sure deals.
Lets pretend that half of those games were worth a shit.
The Scorpio is a good decision but their lack of risk taking in 1st party/2nd party games is a bad decision. If MS doesn't announce any new games at E3 aside from the usual Halo/Forza stuff, I'm not so sure the Scorpio will be all that exciting.
Lets pretend that games like Ryse, Quantum Break, Ori and the Blind Forest, Sunset Overdrive, Halo Wars 2 and Recore weren't MS taking risk but making sure deals.
Lets pretend that half of those games were worth a shit.
Regardless if the games turned out to be what was expected or not has nothing to do with the conversation at hand. They took some risk with some new IPs and some of them didn't meet the hype. It doesn't mean they were shit games. Troll
I'll give them a chance at E3. I don't want to see just games coming out for the next 12 months, though. I need to see them show a strategy for exclusive games and a real direction in terms of games. With both the Switch and PS4 undoubtedly running rich in software, there is real ground for MS to make up for.
Do I think they will? Well, I think this E3 is make or break on that question. CAN they? Never should have been any doubt on the matter. A company that can brag about setting 500 million dollars on fire for NFL content, billion on controller r&d, and God knows what on buying the Minecraft developer should be able to turn around 20-50 million dollar videogame projects like a Pez dispenser.
They'd need atleast 3 more first party studios to make that a reality I would think, which clearly isn't something they want to invest in.
@drummerdave9099: Well, I want to give them a chance. Scorpio seems like it could be a good console, but games are what we buy plastic boxes for, not the other way around.
Regardless if the games turned out to be what was expected or not has nothing to do with the conversation at hand. They took some risk with some new IPs and some of them didn't meet the hype. It doesn't mean they were shit games. Troll
To the contrary it is absolutely relevant to the conversation at hand. Pedro had to reach bank nearly 4 years to come up with 6 examples of Microsoft taking a risk and trying something new, at least half of those examples ranging from mediocre to straight dogshit. That is both a lack of risk taking and bad execution on the few risks they do take, which completely speaks to the point the OP was making.
The Scorpio is a good decision but their lack of risk taking in 1st party/2nd party games is a bad decision. If MS doesn't announce any new games at E3 aside from the usual Halo/Forza stuff, I'm not so sure the Scorpio will be all that exciting.
Lets pretend that games like Ryse, Quantum Break, Ori and the Blind Forest, Sunset Overdrive, Halo Wars 2 and Recore weren't MS taking risk but making sure deals.
Lets pretend that half of those games were worth a shit.
Lets pretend that I was not responding to this claim "...their lack of risk taking in 1st party/2nd party games is a bad decision.". One must not move the goal post.
Regardless if the games turned out to be what was expected or not has nothing to do with the conversation at hand. They took some risk with some new IPs and some of them didn't meet the hype. It doesn't mean they were shit games. Troll
To the contrary it is absolutely relevant to the conversation at hand. Pedro had to reach bank nearly 4 years to come up with 6 examples of Microsoft taking a risk and trying something new, at least half of those examples ranging from mediocre to straight dogshit. That is both a lack of risk taking and bad execution on the few risks they do take, which completely speaks to the point the OP was making.
That is not true he spoke of games that have come out within the past year, so no not all examples were from four years ago. Secondly, whether you feel they are dog shit or not has nothing to do if they had a high risk proposition associated with them. Just because something is shit in your opinion doesn't have anything to do with risk what so ever. If you want to speak of bad execution, OK I'll give you that as some of the games that have come out haven't been what they could have been. However, It still doesn't correlate to shit and zero risk.
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