FF Versus XIII isin't a "Spin off"

I read this at GAF and I thought it was very interesting.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12229841&postcount=1339

Versus isin't a spin off, it's Nomura's vision of XIII. While XIII is Kitase's.

That's why they're set in the same universe, I guess.

I thought I remembered reading something like that somewhere, but it makes sense.

In the end, I don't care if its a spin-off or not. I'm more excited for it than FFXIII at this point (although both are pretty much neck and neck with each other).

It's a spin-off because it's not a main game in the series (Final Fantasy + number, with no additional titles)

That doesn't take anything away from the game, so stop making it sound like a bad thing.

It's a spin-off because it's not a main game in the series (Final Fantasy + number, with no additional titles)

That doesn't take anything away from the game, so stop making it sound like a bad thing.

Dreams-Visions

There set in the same world though.bigboss5ak

Doesn't mean it wasn't a spin-off. and it being a spin-off doesn't make it a bad thing.

when did "spin-off" become a dirty word?

You guys are crazy sometimes.

So it IS the same game, except with the story focused on two different characters within the game?

Then your right. It isn't a spin off.

I don't care if its a spin-off or not, I just like it more then regular 13 because its darker and more action orientated

[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]There set in the same world though.Dreams-Visions

Doesn't mean it wasn't a spin-off. and it being a spin-off doesn't make it a bad thing.

when did "spin-off" become a dirty word?

You guys are crazy sometimes.

It's not a spin-off. They're 2 different games just set in the same universe. You could call it a spin-off if XIII and the other FF games were related but versus isin't, or if versus had similar characters with a different story or something, but that's not the case here.

It makes no sense to call it a spin off just because it doesn't have FF 14 in its name. SE said themselves that XIII is a universe in its own.

It's a spin-off because it's not a main game in the series (Final Fantasy + number, with no additional titles)

That doesn't take anything away from the game, so stop making it sound like a bad thing.

Dreams-Visions

So if they decided to change the title of the game, will it still be a spin off?

Its more a question of what defines a "spin-off". It would be a clear spin off if FF Versus XIII was released in like 2 years or so but because its being released so close to FFXIII, I am confused on what to call it.

1. who cares if its a spin off. Fanboys nitpick everything.

2. FFvs13 is one of the three games in the FF13 novus compilation... or somewhere along those lines. All these games happen in the same universe with different characters and setting. FF13vs is as much of a "main series" as ff13 and ff13 agito.

3. Too bad, even if i believe its a spin off... it wont stop me from getting the game. Fanboys need to chill out. Hating on video games is one thing, bujt saying something will flop even if there is no gameplay footage(not that i know of). What's even more sad is that alot of ppl here are over their 20s and they still havent grown up from their elementary school phase.

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Its more a question of what defines a "spin-off". It would be a clear spin off if FF Versus XIII was released in like 2 years or so but because its being released so close to FFXIII, I am confused on what to call it.

Wasdie

Yes an Action RPG with 3rd Person Shooter elements like Dirge of Cerberus isn't a spinoff lol.

What's next? Final Fantasy VII Direge of Cerberus and Final Fantasy XII Revenant Wings aren't spinoffs as well?

lol GAF. its just a forum. I cant believe you made a thread based on ONE posters comment as if it was proof of anything :|

i'd consider it a spin off

but who cares, fraiser is a spin off of cheers, the simpsons is a spin off of the tracy ulman show, king of the hill/daria is a spinoff of B&B, the jeffersons is a spin off of all in the family .. were these bad shows?

1. who cares if its a spin off. Fanboys nitpick everything.

eklineage

You mean fanboys want to ignore everything.

Yes an Action RPG with 3rd Person Shooter elements like Dirge of Cerberus isn't a spinoff lol.

What's next? Final Fantasy VII Direge of Cerberus and Final Fantasy XII Revenant Wings aren't spinoffs as well?

Blackbond

Stop posting BS would you? They're not even similar.

It's a spin-off because it's not a main game in the series (Final Fantasy + number, with no additional titles)

That doesn't take anything away from the game, so stop making it sound like a bad thing.

Dreams-Visions

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Yes an Action RPG with 3rd Person Shooter elements like Dirge of Cerberus isn't a spinoff lol.

What's next? Final Fantasy VII Direge of Cerberus and Final Fantasy XII Revenant Wings aren't spinoffs as well?

ChrnoTrigger

Stop posting BS would you? They're not even similar.

Yeah I'm the one posting BS. You guys are just clining to Square Enix in every possible way like most you Square Enix fans always do. You guys refuse to ever accept the reality of the siutation. Its an Action RPG with 3rd Person shooter elements. Its not your typical numbered Final Fantasy main installment game. Live with the truth alreayd. It doesn't mean the game is going to be bad or anything.

• Square Enix's grandiose plans for a Final Fantasy XIII three-way appear to be a bit stalled. The action oriented spin-off known as Final Fantasy Versus XIIImay be coming even later than expected

• E3 08: Final Fantasy Versus XIII still a PS3 exclusive
  Square Enix exec confirms that FFXIII spin-off will not be joining fellow RPG in moving to Xbox 360

• It seems the demands of the forthcoming Final Fantasy XIII are put a strain on resources at Square Enix as news reaches us that work on the action orientated spin off Final Fantasy Versus XIII has been paused in favour of its parent game.

• Some CG magic from the forthcomingspin-off, courtesy of the creators of Kingdom Hearts.

• After the shocking news from Microsoft's E3 press conference that Final Fantasy XIII will be arriving on both Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 when it makes it debut outside Japan. Many wondered what if the XIII spin-off "Versus XIII" would be getting the Multiplatform treatment?

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

It's a spin-off because it's not a main game in the series (Final Fantasy + number, with no additional titles)

That doesn't take anything away from the game, so stop making it sound like a bad thing.

Vandalvideo

if it's not a spin-off, then they should name it FFXIV and call it a day.

otherwise, it's a spin-off. but again, why does it matter?

WHY?

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Yes an Action RPG with 3rd Person Shooter elements like Dirge of Cerberus isn't a spinoff lol.

What's next? Final Fantasy VII Direge of Cerberus and Final Fantasy XII Revenant Wings aren't spinoffs as well?

Blackbond

Stop posting BS would you? They're not even similar.

Yeah I'm the one posting BS. You guys are just clining to Square Enix in every possible way like most you Square Enix fans always do. You guys refuse to ever accept the reality of the siutation. Its an Action RPG with 3rd Person shooter elements. Its not your typical numbered Final Fantasy main installment game. Live with the truth alreayd. It doesn't mean the game is going to be bad or anything.

• Square Enix's grandiose plans for a Final Fantasy XIII three-way appear to be a bit stalled. The action oriented spin-off known as Final Fantasy Versus XIIImay be coming even later than expected

• E3 08: Final Fantasy Versus XIII still a PS3 exclusive
  Square Enix exec confirms that FFXIII spin-off will not be joining fellow RPG in moving to Xbox 360

• It seems the demands of the forthcoming Final Fantasy XIII are put a strain on resources at Square Enix as news reaches us that work on the action orientated spin off Final Fantasy Versus XIII has been paused in favour of its parent game.

• Some CG magic from the forthcomingspin-off, courtesy of the creators of Kingdom Hearts.

• After the shocking news from Microsoft's E3 press conference that Final Fantasy XIII will be arriving on both Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 when it makes it debut outside Japan. Many wondered what if the XIII spin-off "Versus XIII" would be getting the Multiplatform treatment?

You're already known as a 360 fanboy, why do you even bother?

It's already been said that Versus's combat will be similar to Kingdom Hearts. Not DoC which is a 3rd person shooter.

Also, Kitase was the director of DoC so if anything be worried about XIII, not Versus. :)

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

It's a spin-off because it's not a main game in the series (Final Fantasy + number, with no additional titles)

That doesn't take anything away from the game, so stop making it sound like a bad thing.

Vandalvideo

Its based off the root of the entire Final Fantasy franchise. The spells, the weapons, ect man.

otherwise, it's a spin-off. but again, why does it matter? Dreams-Visions

Its based off the root of the entire Final Fantasy franchise. The spells, the weapons, ect man.Blackbond

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Yes an Action RPG with 3rd Person Shooter elements like Dirge of Cerberus isn't a spinoff lol.

What's next? Final Fantasy VII Direge of Cerberus and Final Fantasy XII Revenant Wings aren't spinoffs as well?

Blackbond

Stop posting BS would you? They're not even similar.

Yeah I'm the one posting BS. You guys are just clining to Square Enix in every possible way like most you Square Enix fans always do. You guys refuse to ever accept the reality of the siutation. Its an Action RPG with 3rd Person shooter elements. Its not your typical numbered Final Fantasy main installment game. Live with the truth alreayd. It doesn't mean the game is going to be bad or anything.

• Square Enix's grandiose plans for a Final Fantasy XIII three-way appear to be a bit stalled. The action oriented spin-off known as Final Fantasy Versus XIIImay be coming even later than expected

• E3 08: Final Fantasy Versus XIII still a PS3 exclusive
  Square Enix exec confirms that FFXIII spin-off will not be joining fellow RPG in moving to Xbox 360

• It seems the demands of the forthcoming Final Fantasy XIII are put a strain on resources at Square Enix as news reaches us that work on the action orientated spin off Final Fantasy Versus XIII has been paused in favour of its parent game.

• Some CG magic from the forthcomingspin-off, courtesy of the creators of Kingdom Hearts.

• After the shocking news from Microsoft's E3 press conference that Final Fantasy XIII will be arriving on both Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 when it makes it debut outside Japan. Many wondered what if the XIII spin-off "Versus XIII" would be getting the Multiplatform treatment?

welp, I beleive we have a winner.

I think this thread has been finished.

And again...there's absolutely nothing wrong with it being a spin-off. people need to worry less about how a game is designated and worry more about what the hell it is about and whether it'll be any good or not.

Fanboys are the only ones that seem to care about it being a spin-off. wonder why.

You're already known as a 360 fanboy, why do you even bother?

It's already been said that Versus's combat will be similar to Kingdom Hearts. Not DoC which is a 3rd person shooter.

Also, Kitase was the director of DoC so if anything be worried about XIII, not Versus. :)

ChrnoTrigger

You fail even harder then I could have ever imagined

Within recent Japanese gaming magazine interviews, Tetsuya Nomura has stated that Versus XIII's gameplay will be a realistic derivation of Kingdom Hearts battle system with some elements of a third-person shooter - similar to Square Enix's Dirge of Cerberus.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Its based off the root of the entire Final Fantasy franchise. The spells, the weapons, ect man.Vandalvideo

And why is it vanilla Vandal? Because its going to star a female lead which will cause you not to play it? Explain to me what about this game will make it vanilla because to be honest I don't think there is even enough info on the game to make such a claim.

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

You're already known as a 360 fanboy, why do you even bother?

It's already been said that Versus's combat will be similar to Kingdom Hearts. Not DoC which is a 3rd person shooter.

Also, Kitase was the director of DoC so if anything be worried about XIII, not Versus. :)

Blackbond

You fail even harder then I could have ever imagined

Within recent Japanese gaming magazine interviews, Tetsuya Nomura has stated that Versus XIII's gameplay will be a realistic derivation of Kingdom Hearts battle system with some elements of a third-person shooter - similar to Square Enix's Dirge of Cerberus.

"Please, Hammer...don't hurt 'em."

you already won the debate.

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

You're already known as a 360 fanboy, why do you even bother?

It's already been said that Versus's combat will be similar to Kingdom Hearts. Not DoC which is a 3rd person shooter.

Also, Kitase was the director of DoC so if anything be worried about XIII, not Versus. :)

Blackbond

You fail even harder then I could have ever imagined

Within recent Japanese gaming magazine interviews, Tetsuya Nomura has stated that Versus XIII's gameplay will be a realistic derivation of Kingdom Hearts battle system with some elements of a third-person shooter - similar to Square Enix's Dirge of Cerberus.

Mr. Internet tough guy, Keyword: SOME.

DoC was a PURE 3rd person shooter. I personally like the idea of mixing KH with some shooting as KH was purely a button masher.

Also, It's only called a spin-off by some gaming publishers because they're probably mis-informed. SE themselves have never claimed it as a spin-off.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]otherwise, it's a spin-off. but again, why does it matter? Vandalvideo

Not really. It depends on the effort being put into the game and whether its not just a cheap cash in. Family Matters is a spinoff and I very much well do enjoy Steve Urkel and all of his dorkyness lol

And why is it vanilla Vandal? Because its going to star a female lead which will cause you not to play it? Explain to me what about this game will make it vanilla because to be honest I don't think there is even enough info on the game to make such a claim.Blackbond

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

You're already known as a 360 fanboy, why do you even bother?

It's already been said that Versus's combat will be similar to Kingdom Hearts. Not DoC which is a 3rd person shooter.

Also, Kitase was the director of DoC so if anything be worried about XIII, not Versus. :)

ChrnoTrigger

You fail even harder then I could have ever imagined

Within recent Japanese gaming magazine interviews, Tetsuya Nomura has stated that Versus XIII's gameplay will be a realistic derivation of Kingdom Hearts battle system with some elements of a third-person shooter - similar to Square Enix's Dirge of Cerberus.

Mr. Internet tough guy, Keyword: SOME.

DoC was a PURE 3rd person shooter. I personally like the idea of mixing KH with some shooting as KH was purely a button masher.

So what point did you make? You said it won't bare any similarities to Derge of Cerberus and I proved to you it did. Now hypocritically you like the idea of KH mixing some shooting into it. Man look how quickly you jump lol. I find it funny how I know more about this game then the devoted following that as you have proven will be aboard any decsision even when you previously discredited just minutes ago. Square Enix says jump and well you know the rest.

I really do not care at all for FF13vs, seems to be going the worst way it could, very serious style and art, too realistic for me to even consider a rent TBH, just not my style of game art at all

At least FF13 fully keeps its fantasy elements 100% intact, thank the gods

For me FF13vs is the worst thing that could happen to FF, that is remove all the fantasy

I wish they would have just called it Final Fantasy XIV for gods sake

Either that or a new title, hell they could have just called it "Versus". Owell :roll:

I wish they would have just called it Final Fantasy XIV for gods sake

Either that or a new title, hell they could have just called it "Versus". Owell :roll:

hayato_

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]otherwise, it's a spin-off. but again, why does it matter? Vandalvideo

Street Fighter 2: Turbo, Championship Edition and others were spin-offs. I think those were pretty good. :)

I think the only reason it has a bad connotation is because fanboys here try to find and exploit any reason to try to disregard or discredit something. But since we're not slaves to fanboys, we can say something is a spin-off without feeling bad or guilty...because fanboys do not control our thinking.

FFXIII VS is a spin-off.

FFXIII VS may turn out to be more enjoyable than it's traditional brother and predecessor, FFXIII.

And there is nothing fanboy banter can do to change either realities.

Fanboys: "spin-off" != "lesser than" or "inferior to". It simply means it was set in the same universe or is based in some parts on the game that came before it.

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

You're already known as a 360 fanboy, why do you even bother?

It's already been said that Versus's combat will be similar to Kingdom Hearts. Not DoC which is a 3rd person shooter.

Also, Kitase was the director of DoC so if anything be worried about XIII, not Versus. :)

Blackbond

You fail even harder then I could have ever imagined

Within recent Japanese gaming magazine interviews, Tetsuya Nomura has stated that Versus XIII's gameplay will be a realistic derivation of Kingdom Hearts battle system with some elements of a third-person shooter - similar to Square Enix's Dirge of Cerberus.

Mr. Internet tough guy, Keyword: SOME.

DoC was a PURE 3rd person shooter. I personally like the idea of mixing KH with some shooting as KH was purely a button masher.

So what point did you make? You said it won't bare any similarities to Derge of Cerberus and I proved to you it did. Now hypocritically you like the idea of KH mixing some shooting into it. Man look how quickly you jump lol. I find it funny how I know more about this game then the devoted following that as you have proven will be aboard any decsision even when you previously discredited just minutes ago. Square Enix says jump and well you know the rest.

A little off topic here, but is anyone else thinking that Versus could possibly become a game that plays very similar to Devil May Cry? The shooting, the quick-paced gameplay of KH, it could very well end up becoming a game with similar gameplay to DMC, just without as much challenge and with more story.

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

You're already known as a 360 fanboy, why do you even bother?

It's already been said that Versus's combat will be similar to Kingdom Hearts. Not DoC which is a 3rd person shooter.

Also, Kitase was the director of DoC so if anything be worried about XIII, not Versus. :)

Blackbond

You fail even harder then I could have ever imagined

Within recent Japanese gaming magazine interviews, Tetsuya Nomura has stated that Versus XIII's gameplay will be a realistic derivation of Kingdom Hearts battle system with some elements of a third-person shooter - similar to Square Enix's Dirge of Cerberus.

Mr. Internet tough guy, Keyword: SOME.

DoC was a PURE 3rd person shooter. I personally like the idea of mixing KH with some shooting as KH was purely a button masher.

So what point did you make? You said it won't bare any similarities to Derge of Cerberus and I proved to you it did. Now hypocritically you like the idea of KH mixing some shooting into it. Man look how quickly you jump lol. I find it funny how I know more about this game then the devoted following that as you have proven will be aboard any decsision even when you previously discredited just minutes ago. Square Enix says jump and well you know the rest.

I think you should ask yourself the same question. You claimed it to be a 3rd person shooter, you were wrong. You claimed it to be a spin-off, but SE never said that.

You could probably call me a hypocrite on this occaison, but that would be stupid because the flaws that made DoC bad are not existant in this game. This game is mixing ZoE with KH, if they're mixing ZoE I don't see why shooter elements would be bad.

I think you should actually play games first and make a decent argument. All you're doing is dishing out articles and acting like you're badass or something. Having fun on the internet?

FFXIII VS is a spin-off.FFXIII VS may turn out to be more enjoyable than it's traditional brother and predecessor, FFXIII. And there is nothing fanboy banter can do to change either realities.Dreams-Visions

[QUOTE="hayato_"]

I wish they would have just called it Final Fantasy XIV for gods sake

Either that or a new title, hell they could have just called it "Versus". Owell :roll:

Vandalvideo

If they're mis-informed, educate them.

If they're mis-guided, correct them.

If they're fanboys, leave them.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

You're already known as a 360 fanboy, why do you even bother?

It's already been said that Versus's combat will be similar to Kingdom Hearts. Not DoC which is a 3rd person shooter.

Also, Kitase was the director of DoC so if anything be worried about XIII, not Versus. :)

Dreams-Visions

You fail even harder then I could have ever imagined

Within recent Japanese gaming magazine interviews, Tetsuya Nomura has stated that Versus XIII's gameplay will be a realistic derivation of Kingdom Hearts battle system with some elements of a third-person shooter - similar to Square Enix's Dirge of Cerberus.

"Please, Hammer...don't hurt 'em."

you already won the debate.

This thread should do what Hammer's career did.... die.

A little off topic here, but is anyone else thinking that Versus could possibly become a game that plays very similar to Devil May Cry? The shooting, the quick-paced gameplay of KH, it could very well end up becoming a game with similar gameplay to DMC, just without as much challenge and with more story.

Zassimick

An interesting take on things. A DMC/NG type game but as an RPG and being story driven. I like the idea of Versus and like where its heading. Its definately a game to keep an eye on thats for sure. I'm just hoping Square Enix can pull it off because as of right now Square Enix says the development is lagging behind while they finish up FFVIIAC Complete. Yes they are putting a freaking Blu Ray movie ahead of Versus atm sad huh.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]FFXIII VS is a spin-off.FFXIII VS may turn out to be more enjoyable than it's traditional brother and predecessor, FFXIII. And there is nothing fanboy banter can do to change either realities.Vandalvideo

and to quote BB...

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Square Enix's grandiose plans for a Final Fantasy XIII three-way appear to be a bit stalled. The action oriented spin-off known as Final Fantasy Versus XIIImay be coming even later than expected

E3 08: Final Fantasy Versus XIII still a PS3 exclusive

Square Enix exec confirms that FFXIII spin-off will not be joining fellow RPG in moving to Xbox 360

It seems the demands of the forthcoming Final Fantasy XIII are put a strain on resources at Square Enix as news reaches us that work on the action orientated spin off Final Fantasy Versus XIII has been paused in favour of its parent game.

Some CG magic from the forthcomingspin-off, courtesy of the creators of Kingdom Hearts.

After the shocking news from Microsoft's E3 press conference that Final Fantasy XIII will be arriving on both Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 when it makes it debut outside Japan. Many wondered what if the XIII spin-off "Versus XIII" would be getting the Multiplatform treatment?

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but it's whatever man. you have the bug too. apparnently, the fanboy prodding has gotten to you today.

If those aren't good enough...well...I'm done with these conversations anyway. I've got women to attend to, and this is probably one of the most ridiculous and futile debates I've ever seen on this game forum.

it is so inconsequential it's almost laughable. Yet here people are. actually passionately defending...whatever it is they feel needs to be defended here.

It's baffling. I'm out.