FF13 got some unfair hate

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for iKINGBOBi
iKINGBOBi

1083

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#1 iKINGBOBi
Member since 2009 • 1083 Posts

Forget what reviews say, this game kicks a$$. Its one of the better final fantasy games out there. Sure, its somewhat linear but you get over that after a while. The linearity actually fits well with the styling of the game. The game has actually been overhauled in a way like RE4 was changed over its predecessors. Excellent combat, excellent story, unforgettable music, excellent eye candy,and great length (im about 30 hrs in). Besides, not all FF games have to be the same, right? PS this has the best visuals on consoles besides Uncharted 2 and GOW3, but this even beats those games out in some areas.

It seems this gen, NA gamers are just obsessed with WRPGs, which I don't understand. Mass Effect was great but nothing special, just a TPS withRPG elements.Why do WRPGs get a free pass while JRPGs get bashed.

Avatar image for mrmusicman247
mrmusicman247

17601

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#2 mrmusicman247
Member since 2008 • 17601 Posts
Every good game gets unfair hate by people. You enjoy your game while they're missing out :)
Avatar image for moistsandwich
moistsandwich

25

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#3 moistsandwich
Member since 2009 • 25 Posts

Uhhh.... you were the one claiming U2 & GoW3 had stolen "Graphics King" title from Crysis.

Your credibility (if you ever had any) is gone... like dust in the wind..... *song gets stuck in head, and continues to hum the chorus*

Avatar image for mztazmz
mztazmz

1405

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#4 mztazmz
Member since 2003 • 1405 Posts

You have a good point regarding RE4. One of the best things about RE games was puzzle solving and exploration. These aspects were pretty much stripped from RE4 as the game was much more based on action. Very similar to how FF13 stripped away towns, sidequests, and exploration while making the battle system more fast paced and action oriented.

Funny how RE4 was praised for it's changes and got better reviews than any previous RE game while FF13 gets bashed for doing the same:roll:

Then again, gamers just love to hate anything they can this generation.

Avatar image for iKINGBOBi
iKINGBOBi

1083

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#5 iKINGBOBi
Member since 2009 • 1083 Posts

Uhhh.... you were the one claiming U2 & GoW3 had stolen "Graphics King" title from Crysis.

Your credibility (if you ever had any) is gone... like dust in the wind..... *song gets stuck in head, and continues to hum the chorus*

moistsandwich

OK, and....:| Thats was my opinion, you have yours.Stay on topic and post something or don't post in my thread at all.

Avatar image for Brainhunter
Brainhunter

2201

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#6 Brainhunter
Member since 2003 • 2201 Posts
He's right though, FF13 is being bashed VERY unfairly, because of its titular franchise background, and how different it handles things. If FF13 were any other RPG, this title well could have earnt unanimous praise from various sources. I consider it a revolutionary jRPG along the lines of Valkyria Chronicles and Persona 3 FES / Persona 4. It was being harshly reviewed for one reason only : it wasn't the Final Fantasy reviewers wished it was, and for that, it was penalized.
Avatar image for starwarsjunky
starwarsjunky

24765

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#7 starwarsjunky
Member since 2009 • 24765 Posts
i agree with OP. im only like 6 hours in, but i absolutely LOVE FFXIII :D although the fact that the last rpg ive played was on ps1 might give it an unfair advantage lol
Avatar image for iKINGBOBi
iKINGBOBi

1083

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#8 iKINGBOBi
Member since 2009 • 1083 Posts

i agree with OP. im only like 6 hours in, but i absolutely LOVE FFXIII :D although the fact that the last rpg ive played was on ps1 might give it an unfair advantage lolstarwarsjunky

wait til you get 20 hrs +, you'll fall in love with the game. PS Sazh and Snow are awesome:) and Fang is hot:o

Avatar image for JonSnow777
JonSnow777

787

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#9 JonSnow777
Member since 2009 • 787 Posts

To be honest, I thought it was hilarious that people had spent so many years waiting and so much squabbling about exclusivity and so much hype ove this game, and then it's released and it turns out that FF13 sucks. Tell me you don't find that at least a little bit funny.

Avatar image for DVeight8
DVeight8

47

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#10 DVeight8
Member since 2008 • 47 Posts

I won't ge tit simply because it's a jrpg. Then again my mom doesn't pour me cereal while I watch pokemon or dragonballz

Avatar image for starwarsjunky
starwarsjunky

24765

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#11 starwarsjunky
Member since 2009 • 24765 Posts

[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"]i agree with OP. im only like 6 hours in, but i absolutely LOVE FFXIII :D although the fact that the last rpg ive played was on ps1 might give it an unfair advantage loliKINGBOBi

wait til you get 20 hrs +, you'll fall in love with the game. PS Sazh and Snow are awesome:) and Fang is hot:o

too late. i already fell in love with it :P
Avatar image for starwarsjunky
starwarsjunky

24765

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#12 starwarsjunky
Member since 2009 • 24765 Posts

To be honest, I thought it was hilarious that people had spent so many years waiting and so much squabbling about exclusivity and so much hype ove this game, and then it's released and it turns out that FF13 sucks. Tell me you don't find that at least a little bit funny.

JonSnow777
it didnt occur to me that it sucks. it also didnt occur to that it sucks while i've been loving every second of it.
Avatar image for JonSnow777
JonSnow777

787

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#13 JonSnow777
Member since 2009 • 787 Posts

[QUOTE="JonSnow777"]

To be honest, I thought it was hilarious that people had spent so many years waiting and so much squabbling about exclusivity and so much hype ove this game, and then it's released and it turns out that FF13 sucks. Tell me you don't find that at least a little bit funny.

starwarsjunky

it didnt occur to me that it sucks. it also didnt occur to that it sucks while i've been loving every second of it.

Well, that's great for you then. I've noticed that it's terrible.

Avatar image for Innovazero2000
Innovazero2000

3159

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#14 Innovazero2000
Member since 2006 • 3159 Posts
[QUOTE="JonSnow777"]

To be honest, I thought it was hilarious that people had spent so many years waiting and so much squabbling about exclusivity and so much hype ove this game, and then it's released and it turns out that FF13 sucks. Tell me you don't find that at least a little bit funny.

starwarsjunky
it didnt occur to me that it sucks. it also didnt occur to that it sucks while i've been loving every second of it.

I enjoy it highly..do I miss the days of 6 and 7...yes, but XIII is a damn good game
Avatar image for dercoo
dercoo

12555

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#15 dercoo
Member since 2006 • 12555 Posts

RE4 was welcomed with open arms, and saved a dieing franchise. Its in another league. RE5 would be a better comparison.

FF13 is a great game, but is short of the epic master piece that fans (and Square Enix) hyped it to be.

Avatar image for JonSnow777
JonSnow777

787

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#16 JonSnow777
Member since 2009 • 787 Posts

RE4 was welcomed with open arms, and saved a dieing franchise. Its in another league. RE5 would be a better comparison.

FF13 is a great game, but is short of the epic master piece that fans (and Square Enix) hyped it to be.

dercoo

How is it a great game though?

Avatar image for ShadowriverUB
ShadowriverUB

5515

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#17 ShadowriverUB
Member since 2009 • 5515 Posts

I like it also, Fang is great chracter as i expected :P most people who complane about it those that think the game is too easy

Avatar image for dercoo
dercoo

12555

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#18 dercoo
Member since 2006 • 12555 Posts

[QUOTE="dercoo"]

RE4 was welcomed with open arms, and saved a dieing franchise. Its in another league. RE5 would be a better comparison.

FF13 is a great game, but is short of the epic master piece that fans (and Square Enix) hyped it to be.

JonSnow777

How is it a great game though?

No real credible reviewer is scoring it below a 8.

Avatar image for sam_nintendo
sam_nintendo

2066

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#19 sam_nintendo
Member since 2005 • 2066 Posts

[QUOTE="dercoo"]

RE4 was welcomed with open arms, and saved a dieing franchise. Its in another league. RE5 would be a better comparison.

FF13 is a great game, but is short of the epic master piece that fans (and Square Enix) hyped it to be.

JonSnow777

How is it a great game though?

How far in are you?
Avatar image for starwarsjunky
starwarsjunky

24765

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#20 starwarsjunky
Member since 2009 • 24765 Posts

[QUOTE="JonSnow777"]

[QUOTE="dercoo"]

RE4 was welcomed with open arms, and saved a dieing franchise. Its in another league. RE5 would be a better comparison.

FF13 is a great game, but is short of the epic master piece that fans (and Square Enix) hyped it to be.

dercoo

How is it a great game though?

No real credible reviewer is scoring it below a 8.

plus, i think that sites are reviewing it as a FF game, not as an RPG. FF is essentially its own sub-genre anymore.
Avatar image for salxis
salxis

4280

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#21 salxis
Member since 2009 • 4280 Posts
It happens with every new FF
Avatar image for osan0
osan0

18241

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#22 osan0
Member since 2004 • 18241 Posts
i havent played it in fairness. but from what i gather...it sounds like a step backwards in the grand scheme of things. very linear, no towns, no shops, no minigames...it sounds like a game i wouldnt enjoy to be honest. bug glad to hear your enjoying it TC...have fun :). i just saw a review for resonance of fate on eurogamer....sounds like a much more interesting game to me. i think i will go for that one instead. and demon souls whenever sony can get off there backside and release it in europe.
Avatar image for deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a

26108

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 28

User Lists: 0

#23 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
Member since 2008 • 26108 Posts
I like it, I think it's a pretty good game.
Avatar image for kidcool189
kidcool189

4307

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#24 kidcool189
Member since 2008 • 4307 Posts
your right, it did get some unfair hate, in the gamespot review the character herself, vanille, doesnot deserve to be one of the "bad points" at all of the review, she is awesome:(
Avatar image for moistsandwich
moistsandwich

25

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#25 moistsandwich
Member since 2009 • 25 Posts

[QUOTE="moistsandwich"]

Uhhh.... you were the one claiming U2 & GoW3 had stolen "Graphics King" title from Crysis.

Your credibility (if you ever had any) is gone... like dust in the wind..... *song gets stuck in head, and continues to hum the chorus*

iKINGBOBi

OK, and....:| Thats was my opinion, you have yours.Stay on topic and post something or don't post in my thread at all.

Ahh... you stepped in it.... People's hate for the game is their opinion, you have yours. /thread

Avatar image for ShadowriverUB
ShadowriverUB

5515

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#26 ShadowriverUB
Member since 2009 • 5515 Posts

your right, it did get some unfair hate, in the gamespot review the character herself, vanille, doesnot deserve to be one of the "bad points" at all of the review, she is awesome:(kidcool189

Well in one scene her laugh nearly destroys your ears :P so no wonder they don't like her

Avatar image for salxis
salxis

4280

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#27 salxis
Member since 2009 • 4280 Posts

[QUOTE="kidcool189"]your right, it did get some unfair hate, in the gamespot review the character herself, vanille, doesnot deserve to be one of the "bad points" at all of the review, she is awesome:(ShadowriverUB

Well in one scene her laugh nearly destroys your ears :P so no wonder they don't like her

No she's just terrible, the on-off Australian accent = nightmarish
Avatar image for starwarsjunky
starwarsjunky

24765

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#28 starwarsjunky
Member since 2009 • 24765 Posts

[QUOTE="kidcool189"]your right, it did get some unfair hate, in the gamespot review the character herself, vanille, doesnot deserve to be one of the "bad points" at all of the review, she is awesome:(ShadowriverUB

Well in one scene her laugh nearly destroys your ears :P so no wonder they don't like her

i dont mind her at all. but Hope is just plain ridiculous. i want to bash him in the face with a sledgehammer. multiple times.
Avatar image for oajlu
oajlu

2652

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 16

User Lists: 0

#29 oajlu
Member since 2006 • 2652 Posts

Forget what reviews say, this game kicks a$$. Its one of the better final fantasy games out there. Sure, its somewhat linear but you get over that after a while. The linearity actually fits well with the styling of the game. The game has actually been overhauled in a way like RE4 was changed over its predecessors. Excellent combat, excellent story, unforgettable music, excellent eye candy,and great length (im about 30 hrs in). Besides, not all FF games have to be the same, right? PS this has the best visuals on consoles besides Uncharted 2 and GOW3, but this even beats those games out in some areas.

It seems this gen, NA gamers are just obsessed with WRPGs, which I don't understand. Mass Effect was great but nothing special, just a TPS withRPG elements.Why do WRPGs get a free pass while JRPGs get bashed.

iKINGBOBi

yeah i hated this game too..it was so confused at beginning. It's like they drop you in a middle of battle without introduction of background. For me, SP is all about presenation and story. Since I was confused of the story, it was quite painful to continue itand I was pissed out cuz i spent $65 for it.After couple days, I find out they have describtion of story in datalog....and I spent 1 hour to read them all. It's getting a lot better now, and I feel more belonging to it. Now, I really enjoy this game, and it's worth for full price. I think FF13 is a decent game, however it requires to understanding the background first, otherwise it's quite boring. After all, RPG is all about story and presentation. I think a lot of ppl dont like it cuz it is quite confused at beginning. They put you in a fantastic world without explaining everything. Then people donest feel beloning when story proceed, and they wouldnt have fun in it.

Avatar image for MyopicCanadian
MyopicCanadian

8345

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 15

User Lists: 0

#30 MyopicCanadian
Member since 2004 • 8345 Posts

The game is pretty bad so far. Whether or not it gets better later on, I might not ever know.. the story is so fragmented/bad at the beginning, and I don't really care much for the characters. They're alright, but nothing special.

I'm not really into newer JRPG's in general, but as a comparative example, I started playing Tales and played it a LOT.. until I was about 36 hours in and lost interest. I probably have played FF13 for around 5 hours and I've lost interest.

There's the difference between good initial pacing and interesting characters.Graphic fidelity can't make up that difference...

Avatar image for DivineSword
DivineSword

15840

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#31 DivineSword  Moderator
Member since 2007 • 15840 Posts

People shared different view that's all, something you find okay might not be for others.

Avatar image for thecreechxxx
thecreechxxx

745

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#32 thecreechxxx
Member since 2003 • 745 Posts
Like everyone says, every FF gets it's share of hate. If you talked to a group of gamers who like FF, everyone would tell you like one and hated another. Either way, the score was good and I don't love how linear the game is, but it's still great. The paradigm system is actually real cool. The characters are awesome as well. I can live not having an open sandbox world, because there is a lot to be desired in most open world games. FF XIII isn't the best FF but it is still really great.
Avatar image for KittenWishes
KittenWishes

1165

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#33 KittenWishes
Member since 2010 • 1165 Posts
Its not unfair, the criticism is very warranted.
Avatar image for clone01
clone01

29843

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#34 clone01
Member since 2003 • 29843 Posts

i think its a great game...i'd put FFX and FFVII above it, but i'm still really enjoying it. and this is coming from a FF deserter.

Avatar image for -Snooze-
-Snooze-

7304

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#35 -Snooze-
Member since 2009 • 7304 Posts

I both agree and disagree. It's nowhere near as bad as the haters are making it out to be, but not as good as some insnae reviewers say it is.

I'd say Gamespot are about right, i'd give it a 7.5/8 It's not better then LO anyway. (Battle System is though)

Avatar image for Arach666
Arach666

23285

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: -1

User Lists: 0

#36 Arach666
Member since 2009 • 23285 Posts

It seems this gen, NA gamers are just obsessed with WRPGs, which I don't understand. Mass Effect was great but nothing special, just a TPS withRPG elements.Why do WRPGs get a free pass while JRPGs get bashed.

iKINGBOBi

Maybe because games like Dragon Age,Mass Effect 2 or The Witcher are actually better?

The biggest problem for JRPG´s is the mere fact that WRPG´s exist now on consoles as well. When they were mostly PC exclusives(superb games like Planescape Torment or Baldur´s Gate 2,for example) they were not really competing with the so called console RPG´s(JRPG´s)but since a game called KOTOR(widely acclaimed by most of the press as the best console RPG last gen) arrived on consoles as well,all has changed.

Unless JRPG´s change their formulas drastically,this will only aggravate even more in the future.

Avatar image for Vandalvideo
Vandalvideo

39655

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 16

User Lists: 0

#37 Vandalvideo
Member since 2003 • 39655 Posts
I question how far you are in the game. After awhile, the linearity can really begin to make you go crazy. Also, the novelty of Gran Pulse wears of quickly upon arrival.
Avatar image for sxdx89
sxdx89

3009

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#38 sxdx89
Member since 2003 • 3009 Posts

[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]

[QUOTE="kidcool189"]your right, it did get some unfair hate, in the gamespot review the character herself, vanille, doesnot deserve to be one of the "bad points" at all of the review, she is awesome:(starwarsjunky

Well in one scene her laugh nearly destroys your ears :P so no wonder they don't like her

i dont mind her at all. but Hope is just plain ridiculous. i want to bash him in the face with a sledgehammer. multiple times.


Whats wrong with Hope? I quite like Hope, he's better than Vanille IMO. Her voice can get a bit irritating and times, and sometimes she's alittle to chipper but she isn't to bad.