Fifa 12 = Cerebral Chess Match

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#1 lostfan132
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Im an avid fifa gamer and have to say that i never understand why alot of gamers discount sports games as yearly rehashes that appeal to the lowest common denominator. Fifa 12 now with its tactical defending is a true test of skill. Every button on the controller is key to success, the difference between an expert fifa player and a novice will be glaringly obvious. A fifa match becomes a chess match where you try to keep your shape on the pitch to get the ball back. decide when to send your wing backs forward to attack thus leaving a ton of space for the other player to potentially counter. IMO these kinds of sports games require as much skill and intelligence as any game that the hardcore gamer lauds. I only write this because i constantly see sports games trashed on these forums, while some do deserve it, games like fifa and nba 2k are legit goty conteders for me, for what they bring to the table.

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#2 VendettaRed07
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With the exception of Fifa 11, Fifa generally does change things that ACTUALLY effect the way you play the game and the way it feels.

Mainly people complain about madden because every year it is just some minor under the hood tweak that doesn't change anything.. Like better AI is toted as a new feature to the newer madden yet I didn't notice any difference.. It just felt like the turning the game on a slightly higher difficulty level.

Even then being able to play as a keeper in Fifa 11 was a bigger addition any madden game has made in the past 6 years or so

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#3 lostfan132
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With the exception of Fifa 11, Fifa generally does change things that ACTUALLY effect the way you play the game and the way it feels.

Mainly people complain about madden because every year it is just some minor under the hood tweak that doesn't change anything.. Like better AI is toted as a new feature to the newer madden yet I didn't notice any difference.. It just felt like the turning the game on a slightly higher difficulty level.

Even then being able to play as a keeper in Fifa 11 was a bigger addition any madden game has made in the past 6 years or so

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yea i would agree with this, the last madden i bought was 09, and i recently played madden 12 at best buy and it feels esentially the same, and as far as i can tell theres no mode changes. not buying another madden until the next gen.

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Fifa and PES are one of the reasons am still a gamer SERIOUSLY. After i beat any shooter or adventure game i buy, i still revert back to Fifa and PES because i just cant beat them and no one the're both endless fun. I like soccer a lot though that why i like the series and am Manchester United fan...
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Im an avid fifa gamer and have to say that i never understand why alot of gamers discount sports games as yearly rehashes that appeal to the lowest common denominator. Fifa 12 now with its tactical defending is a true test of skill. Every button on the controller is key to success, the difference between an expert fifa player and a novice will be glaringly obvious. A fifa match becomes a chess match where you try to keep your shape on the pitch to get the ball back. decide when to send your wing backs forward to attack thus leaving a ton of space for the other player to potentially counter. IMO these kinds of sports games require as much skill and intelligence as any game that the hardcore gamer lauds. I only write this because i constantly see sports games trashed on these forums, while some do deserve it, games like fifa and nba 2k are legit goty conteders for me, for what they bring to the table.

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Please since you've played Fifa 12, tell me have EA finaly added cutscenes for wining leagues and cups . Thats what Fifa always lack to PES for me...
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[QUOTE="lostfan132"]

Im an avid fifa gamer and have to say that i never understand why alot of gamers discount sports games as yearly rehashes that appeal to the lowest common denominator. Fifa 12 now with its tactical defending is a true test of skill. Every button on the controller is key to success, the difference between an expert fifa player and a novice will be glaringly obvious. A fifa match becomes a chess match where you try to keep your shape on the pitch to get the ball back. decide when to send your wing backs forward to attack thus leaving a ton of space for the other player to potentially counter. IMO these kinds of sports games require as much skill and intelligence as any game that the hardcore gamer lauds. I only write this because i constantly see sports games trashed on these forums, while some do deserve it, games like fifa and nba 2k are legit goty conteders for me, for what they bring to the table.

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Please since you've played Fifa 12, tell me have EA finaly added cutscenes for wining leagues and cups . Thats what Fifa always lack to PES for me...

to be honest its un needed, the new defence and player engine that we've got this year are better than some silly cutscenes.

12 is defo a good contender fo a GOTY somewhere but alas it wont happen here as the furor by Americans saying footy is too simple a sport will be too high for any form of backlash :(

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[QUOTE="monkeysmoke"][QUOTE="lostfan132"]

Im an avid fifa gamer and have to say that i never understand why alot of gamers discount sports games as yearly rehashes that appeal to the lowest common denominator. Fifa 12 now with its tactical defending is a true test of skill. Every button on the controller is key to success, the difference between an expert fifa player and a novice will be glaringly obvious. A fifa match becomes a chess match where you try to keep your shape on the pitch to get the ball back. decide when to send your wing backs forward to attack thus leaving a ton of space for the other player to potentially counter. IMO these kinds of sports games require as much skill and intelligence as any game that the hardcore gamer lauds. I only write this because i constantly see sports games trashed on these forums, while some do deserve it, games like fifa and nba 2k are legit goty conteders for me, for what they bring to the table.

razgriz_101

Please since you've played Fifa 12, tell me have EA finaly added cutscenes for wining leagues and cups . Thats what Fifa always lack to PES for me...

to be honest its un needed, the new defence and player engine that we've got this year are better than some silly cutscenes.

12 is defo a good contender fo a GOTY somewhere but alas it wont happen here as the furor by Americans saying footy is too simple a sport will be too high for any form of backlash :(

I know the new precision dribling and impact engine are great addition but seriously lack of cutscenes makes wining leagues and cups less fun and realistic compared to PES series. EA should start using cutscenes because the liscence right will make beter than PES cutscenes especialy in manager mode.
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="monkeysmoke"] Please since you've played Fifa 12, tell me have EA finaly added cutscenes for wining leagues and cups . Thats what Fifa always lack to PES for me...monkeysmoke

to be honest its un needed, the new defence and player engine that we've got this year are better than some silly cutscenes.

12 is defo a good contender fo a GOTY somewhere but alas it wont happen here as the furor by Americans saying footy is too simple a sport will be too high for any form of backlash :(

I know the new precision dribling and impact engine are great addition but seriously lack of cutscenes makes wining leagues and cups less fun and realistic compared to PES series. EA should start using cutscenes because the liscence right will make beter than PES cutscenes especialy in manager mode.

thing is its a really pointless waste of man hours in my honest opinion, would much rather see a much more cohesive gameplay unit than some cutscenes, the way it is for me is just fine its not something i bother about or anyone should really bother about cause in a sports game its insanely minor especially fifa with the amount of leagues etc there would need to be roughly something like 60 cutscene's made and animated in engine etc its a lot of work for something minor to be brutally honest.

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[QUOTE="monkeysmoke"][QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

to be honest its un needed, the new defence and player engine that we've got this year are better than some silly cutscenes.

12 is defo a good contender fo a GOTY somewhere but alas it wont happen here as the furor by Americans saying footy is too simple a sport will be too high for any form of backlash :(

razgriz_101

I know the new precision dribling and impact engine are great addition but seriously lack of cutscenes makes wining leagues and cups less fun and realistic compared to PES series. EA should start using cutscenes because the liscence right will make beter than PES cutscenes especialy in manager mode.

thing is its a really pointless waste of man hours in my honest opinion, would much rather see a much more cohesive gameplay unit than some cutscenes, the way it is for me is just fine its not something i bother about or anyone should really bother about cause in a sports game its insanely minor especially fifa with the amount of leagues etc there would need to be roughly something like 60 cutscene's made and animated in engine etc its a lot of work for something minor to be brutally honest.

For me it matters a lot or wont you like to see a cutscene of your best player been handled the european or world best player award. PES does all that and its adds realism and imersion to the game for me. Though fifa got me with all it liscence and animation but it would've been more complete with more cutscene....
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I agree 100%. Tactical defending changes everything. Love getting own3d by barca with legendary difficulty :P

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#11 megaspiderweb09
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Looking foward to getting FIFA12, finally a game where i dont have to mindlessly hold one button all game