Final Fantasy 4 remake = a step too far

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#1 NorthlandMan
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Seriously though, remaking a game that was ported to the GBA a year ago? That's retarded. Most DS owners who wanted this game have got it and completed it. What's the point of remaking a game that is not only playable on the DS but was marketed towards DS owners as well? It looks really nice, dont get me wrong but it's still a damn stupid idea and i doubt many people are going to pay full price for it. If they're going to remake something, make it something that the west missed out on (like Final Fantasy 3 was). I would personally love to see one of the better dragon quest games or seiken denetsu 3 remade. Instead we're stuck with this trash as for Final Fanatasy dissidia, don't get me started. It seems that the only quality game coming out of the Square party is the last remnant.
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#2 musicalmac  Moderator
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I don't mind remakes. I hope they make them all the way up to IX :)

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#3 FrenziedRaldo24
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It's funny how Square denied the articles that claimed they would focus more on just remaking previous games instead of making new ones, when it seems like theyre just trying to damage control.
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#4 DaysAirlines
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If this was still Squaresoft they wouldn't have let this happend. It's all Enix's doing.
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I hate all this milkage by square-enix now... How many times are they going to remake there FFs?  They probably know they can't make good games anymore, so they just remake all there older games.  I hope mistwalker does well, and square-enix goes backrupt one day :| mind you mistwalker would probably then start milking all there older games then.
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#6 HarlockJC
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I don't mind remakes. I hope they make them all the way up to IX :)

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You and me both but I never played 4 and now I will in better graphics...So I am happy and I am sure their are many like me 

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Do you think we'll ever see FFVII on the DS? I don't want a remake of that- just give me a straight port.
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Do you think we'll ever see FFVII on the DS? I don't want a remake of that- just give me a straight port.musicalmac
I'd hate to see a FF remake PERIOD. I'm not a fan of remaking games that people have already played, and FF7 is onne of the most important RPGs ever made so most preople have played it. Even if you haven't you can just go out and get it for the PS2/PS1
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Do you think we'll ever see FFVII on the DS? I don't want a remake of that- just give me a straight port.NorthlandMan
I'd hat to see a FF remake PERIOD. I'm not a fan of remaking games that people have already played, and FF7 is onne of the most important RPGs ever made so most preople have played it. Even if you haven't you can just go out and get it for the PS2/PS1

 

But I want to take FFVII with me. I don't have a PS2 or a PS1. There are more out there like me, too. I promise ;)

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http://uk.psp.ign.com/articles/786/786628p1.html

 

First Final Fantasy Dissidia Details

Dissidia seems like it could be the perfect way to celebrate the Final Fantasy 20th anniversary, as it brings together characters from past entries. Jump offers a look at just two members of the cast. Making an appearance from Final Fantasy I is Warrior of Light. From Final Fantasy IX comes Zidane Tribal. Jump also reveals that Kuja, one of the villains from FFIX, will make an appearance.

Square Enix originally described Dissidia as a Progressive Action game. We're still not sure what the progressive part means, but the action part of the equation is pretty clear. The game features close-range combat on a 3D battle field, complete with jumping and special skills.

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Do you think we'll ever see FFVII on the DS? I don't want a remake of that- just give me a straight port.musicalmac
They wouldn't remake FFVII for the DS; there would be no graphical improvement, and we'd lose the cutscenes.
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#12 flashattackfina
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 musicalmac
  FF  VII Remake would be most likely going to the psp since it's getting ff7 crisis core
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#13 Acenso
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You know this is one more game for the DS...I see it as a plus lol. I am excited since it means we should also get VI^^ I own it but a portable version would be heaven
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Do you think we'll ever see FFVII on the DS? I don't want a remake of that- just give me a straight port.mjarantilla
They wouldn't remake FFVII for the DS; there would be no graphical improvement, and we'd lose the cutscenes.

 

I think they could find a way if they wanted to. I just know FFVII is the bread and butter FF game, and is probably the most popular. That's why I want it! 

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It's a shame for new gamers who have to pay $20-30 for games that would normally be $5-10.
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#16 mlbslugger86
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another remake?
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#17 hotdaisy18
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Huh? FFIV remake? Advance? Or something else? Did I miss out on the memo?
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I don't mind remakes. I hope they make them all the way up to IX :)

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Hell yeah! Too right, I love FF and want to expand my collection! 

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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Do you think we'll ever see FFVII on the DS? I don't want a remake of that- just give me a straight port.mjarantilla
They wouldn't remake FFVII for the DS; there would be no graphical improvement, and we'd lose the cutscenes.

1) There would be graphical improvement.  SE's 3D DS work murders PS1 graphics.

2) FFIII remake has cut-scenes.  FFIV remake will probably have them as well.  Why not FFVII?

Remember that they can go to two carts if needed. 

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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="musicalmac"]Do you think we'll ever see FFVII on the DS? I don't want a remake of that- just give me a straight port.musicalmac

They wouldn't remake FFVII for the DS; there would be no graphical improvement, and we'd lose the cutscenes.

I think they could find a way if they wanted to. I just know FFVII is the bread and butter FF game, and is probably the most popular. That's why I want it!

FFVI is the quintessential Final Fantasy. FFVII only introduced bishies with long hair and big "I'm overcompensating for something" katanas. :P
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FF  VII Remake would be most likely going to the psp since it's getting ff7 crisis core
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#22 musicalmac  Moderator
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Who would sign my online petition for a DS remake of FFVII if I started one? ;)
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="musicalmac"]Do you think we'll ever see FFVII on the DS? I don't want a remake of that- just give me a straight port.mjarantilla

They wouldn't remake FFVII for the DS; there would be no graphical improvement, and we'd lose the cutscenes.

 

I think they could find a way if they wanted to. I just know FFVII is the bread and butter FF game, and is probably the most popular. That's why I want it!

FFVI is the quintessential Final Fantasy. FFVII only introduced bishies with long hair and big "I'm overcompensating for something" katanas. :P

There goes your credibility of a gamer out the door :roll: Do you prefer big meaty men in oversized armor?

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http://uk.psp.ign.com/articles/786/786628p1.html

First Final Fantasy Dissidia Details

Dissidia seems like it could be the perfect way to celebrate the Final Fantasy 20th anniversary, as it brings together characters from past entries. Jump offers a look at just two members of the cast. Making an appearance from Final Fantasy I is Warrior of Light. From Final Fantasy IX comes Zidane Tribal. Jump also reveals that Kuja, one of the villains from FFIX, will make an appearance.

Square Enix originally described Dissidia as a Progressive Action game. We're still not sure what the progressive part means, but the action part of the equation is pretty clear. The game features close-range combat on a 3D battle field, complete with jumping and special skills.

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Jesus Christ.....
[QUOTE="musicalmac"]

I don't mind remakes. I hope they make them all the way up to IX :)

HarlockJC

You and me both but I never played 4 and now I will in better graphics...So I am happy and I am sure their are many like me

That's beside the point. You can just get the GBA version. Would your rather not play something you cant already play in some form. The differences in this version will be negligible at best and will make FF4 advance owners feel like they've been screwed
I hate all this milkage by square-enix now... How many times are they going to remake there FFs?  They probably know they can't make good games anymore, so they just remake all there older games.  I hope mistwalker does well, and square-enix goes backrupt one day :| mind you mistwalker would probably then start milking all there older games then.Dahaka-UK
It's totally ridiculous. I wouldn't mind as much if it was a game we hadnt seen in a while but we just had an updated version of this last year. I still cant understand why they dont just remake some of their unreleased games instead, it's just dumb
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I recall reading an article a couple days ago that said they were doing remakes to give some new members some experience before making new games I think...but don't take my word for it. Also you should know all companies are the same...

It's all about the benjamins.

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I'd rather play a remade classic FF game than any of these new games starting an all shemale cast.
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="musicalmac"]

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="musicalmac"]Do you think we'll ever see FFVII on the DS? I don't want a remake of that- just give me a straight port.hotdaisy18

They wouldn't remake FFVII for the DS; there would be no graphical improvement, and we'd lose the cutscenes.

I think they could find a way if they wanted to. I just know FFVII is the bread and butter FF game, and is probably the most popular. That's why I want it!

FFVI is the quintessential Final Fantasy. FFVII only introduced bishies with long hair and big "I'm overcompensating for something" katanas. :P

There goes your credibility of a gamer out the door :roll: Do you prefer big meaty men in oversized armor?

No, I prefer real characters with real relationships instead of stereotypical caricatures whose primary relationships to one another depend entirely on a sequence of wholly coincidental events. Seriously, have you never played Final Fantasy VI? Compared to FFVI, Final Fantasy VII and its successors (except for FFXII) are like Dungeons and Dragons campaigns turned into video games, whereas Final Fantasy VI (aka THE MASTERPIECE) is an epic fantasy novel.
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[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="musicalmac"]

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="musicalmac"]Do you think we'll ever see FFVII on the DS? I don't want a remake of that- just give me a straight port.mjarantilla

They wouldn't remake FFVII for the DS; there would be no graphical improvement, and we'd lose the cutscenes.

 

I think they could find a way if they wanted to. I just know FFVII is the bread and butter FF game, and is probably the most popular. That's why I want it!

FFVI is the quintessential Final Fantasy. FFVII only introduced bishies with long hair and big "I'm overcompensating for something" katanas. :P

There goes your credibility of a gamer out the door :roll: Do you prefer big meaty men in oversized armor?

No, I prefer real characters with real relationships instead of stereotypical caricatures whose primary relationships to one another depend entirely on a sequence of wholly coincidental events. Seriously, have you never played Final Fantasy VI? Compared to FFVI, Final Fantasy VII and its successors (except for FFXII) are like Dungeons and Dragons campaigns turned into video games, whereas Final Fantasy VI (aka THE MASTERPIECE) is an epic fantasy novel.

Hey, careful what you say about D & D stories, Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 have some of the best stories in gaming.
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="hotdaisy18"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="musicalmac"]

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="musicalmac"]Do you think we'll ever see FFVII on the DS? I don't want a remake of that- just give me a straight port.ithilgore2006

They wouldn't remake FFVII for the DS; there would be no graphical improvement, and we'd lose the cutscenes.

I think they could find a way if they wanted to. I just know FFVII is the bread and butter FF game, and is probably the most popular. That's why I want it!

FFVI is the quintessential Final Fantasy. FFVII only introduced bishies with long hair and big "I'm overcompensating for something" katanas. :P

There goes your credibility of a gamer out the door :roll: Do you prefer big meaty men in oversized armor?

No, I prefer real characters with real relationships instead of stereotypical caricatures whose primary relationships to one another depend entirely on a sequence of wholly coincidental events. Seriously, have you never played Final Fantasy VI? Compared to FFVI, Final Fantasy VII and its successors (except for FFXII) are like Dungeons and Dragons campaigns turned into video games, whereas Final Fantasy VI (aka THE MASTERPIECE) is an epic fantasy novel.

Hey, careful what you say about D & D stories, Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 have some of the best stories in gaming.

I guess I should've said "D&D novels" instead.
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While I don't mind the remakes themselves,I'm just wondering how many Final Fantasies will be remade.It seems like they're trying to remake every Final Fantasy.
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While I don't mind the remakes themselves,I'm just wondering how many Final Fantasies will be remade.It seems like they're trying to remake every Final Fantasy.VGobbsesser
i hope not. There's alot of quality japanese stuff that didnt make it here and i'd like to see that stuff first
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#32 mjarantilla
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While I don't mind the remakes themselves,I'm just wondering how many Final Fantasies will be remade.It seems like they're trying to remake every Final Fantasy.VGobbsesser
I think just the 2D ones.
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Square needs to take a step away from the whole Final Fantasy Series, and focus on making more original games.

 

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#34 mjarantilla
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Square needs to take a step away from the whole Final Fantasy Series, and focus on making more original games.

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Every main series FF game is original, except for the summons and some side characters (like Cid).
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#35 bc1391
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Good for DS owners...I'd rather have a VI remake  than any other FF game

Kefka>>>Sephiroth

*runs from angry FF fans* 

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And there also remaking FF I & II for PSP, even though my EB has like 10 coppies at $9.99.... and they'll sell the new remake for $50+...
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#37 mjarantilla
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Good for DS owners...I'd rather have a VI remake than any other FF game

Kefka>>>Sephiroth

*runs from angry FF fans*

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Those aren't REAL Final Fantasy fans. They're just "new kids."
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And there also remaking FF I & II for PSP, even though my EB has like 10 coppies at $9.99.... and they'll sell the new remake for $50+...Hyper-Chicken
No more than $40 for the DS remakes.
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#39 bc1391
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[QUOTE="bc1391"]

Good for DS owners...I'd rather have a VI remake than any other FF game

Kefka>>>Sephiroth

*runs from angry FF fans*

mjarantilla
Those aren't REAL Final Fantasy fans. They're just "new kids."

To be honest, I'm not a FF hardcore myself. Kefka was always my favorite FF villain.
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"The remake will utilise the engine used in the recently released Final Fantasy III for the DS. The original creators of Final Fantasy IV are supporting the DS remake, and will apparently feature much more than spiffy new 3D graphics."

http://palgn.com.au/article.php?id=7527&title=Square+developing+Final+Fantasy+IV+remake+for+DS 

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it's $30 for FF1&2 remake for PSP not $50 dude
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#42 bc1391
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"The remake will utilise the engine used in the recently released Final Fantasy III for the DS. The original creators of Final Fantasy IV are supporting the DS remake, and will apparently feature much more than spiffy new 3D graphics."

http://palgn.com.au/article.php?id=7527&title=Square+developing+Final+Fantasy+IV+remake+for+DS

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From the recent scans of this game, Square is doing a good job of that
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III was the only FF that wasn't released in the West...
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#44 hellsingfan666
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ugh not another remake, squaresoft needs to cut off enix somehow so they won't suck anymore
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I want FF 5 and 6 DS     FF 7,8,9 PSP    
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#46 dreamachine
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i've had FF4 stuck in the GBA slot of my DS since forever :? and i still never finished it then :?:?:?

though tbh i've never finished an even numbered final fantasy :?:?:? 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 - all finished, 2, never played & i couldn't finish 4, 6, 8 & 10 (never played 11 or 12 though :()

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Final Fantasy IV is my all-time favorite game. I will be picking this up when it comes out.
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I never finish FFIV (half way through and gave up) so i would buy the remake