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#1 WINDWAKER1
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There is absolutely no way this is the greatest game of all time, OoT, Halo, and plenty of other games destroy it.

I mean, Sephiroth? really? He's the most girly villain i can remember. The story and gameplay in Final Fantasy X is about 10 times better.

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#2 mo0ksi
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I don't understand why Sephiroth is considered badass in the first place when he had some serious mommy issues.
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#3 Lethalhazard
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You enjoy making threads everyday that invoke anger from others, don't you? :P
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#4 Youngmav05
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I think this thread might actually be a direct response to my thread... hmm I think I just got my first troll response Thread! did I just pop my cherry?

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#5 dragonfly110
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Ill admit that it isnt the greatest game of all time, heck not even the best FF (that goes to X imo) but it is still an amazing game.

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#6 juno84
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Well, the early 3d graphics used in FF7 haven't aged well and I think a much better job is done on translating these days. The main reason I liked Sephiroth was because he actually had his own backstory and motivations. A lot of games (including early FFs) simply have a bad guy doing bad things because he is bad. I don't think it was the visual character design that made the character.

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#7 Androvinus
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I think FF is overrated on a whole. i think its a great series of games but its not mind blowing greatness. they have some pretty stupid stories too.
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#8 Nonstop-Madness  Online
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For its time FF7 was the greatest RPG of all time, its still a pretty good game nowadays. FF10 was also amazing but I did enjoy playing FF9. imo, every genre has the best of all time. FF7 is still considered one of the greatest games of all time, it is up there with Halo and OoT.
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#9 rybe1025
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I think FF is overrated on a whole. i think its a great series of games but its not mind blowing greatness. they have some pretty stupid stories too. Androvinus
I agree.
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#10 Birdy09
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WEll polished, lots of content, decent story .... great lenght for its time, lots of extras.
I don't understand why Sephiroth is considered badass in the first place when he had some serious mommy issues.mo0ksi
He references his mother... oh no.. not the momma boy joke :roll: ... his mothers a giant creepy headless spook... entirely different. @WINDWAKER FFX's gameplay is practically identical bar the exception that the turn based moves are calculated and displayed for you.... Also, the picture you have posted is as childish as the pathtic "Girly Hair" arguement....
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#11 karriston
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I'll never really understand how anyone can think FF X is the best Final Fantasy. It's the worst one post FF VI. Still a good game though. Anyway, I disagree. FF VII is the best game of all time. Story, villain, atmosphere, characters and world have yet to be matched. Each to their own, but in this case you're quite wrong. Sorry.
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#12 darkkillerr
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I approve, ffix its much better than ffvii

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#13 manicfoot
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Well personally I think OOT is over rated. I never liked it. Not even in 1998. FFVII is one of the few games from the 90's that I feel has grown with me. Replaying it as an adult, I feel empathy for characters that I used to hate and see the story in a completely different way... that's why its special to me.

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#14 Shoooryuken
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Sephiroth killed Aeris.

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#15 TalesofRaGnArOk
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Everyone one knows that the games you played as a kid were the most memorable. Of course if those same people went back and played FFVII again today, I don't think they'd see it as "the best game ever." Its natural for a series to improve.

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#16 SirWander
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You are arguing over subjectivity, and Halo is severely overrated.

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#17 WINDWAKER1
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I think this thread might actually be a direct response to my thread... hmm I think I just got my first troll response Thread! did I just pop my cherry?

Youngmav05

Honestly, I didn't know your thread exsisted when I made this one, although I did catch your shameless ego boosting.

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#18 WINDWAKER1
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You are arguing over subjectivity, and Halo is severely overrated.

SirWander

Halo is the greatest series of all time.

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#19 Birdy09
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Everyone one knows that the games you played as a kid were the most memorable. Of course if those same people went back and played FFVII again today, I don't think they'd see it as "the best game ever." Its natural for a series to improve.

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Playing through it again atm, still pretty good. Though I never would of said it was the ebst game ever... just one of the top ones. But the series hasnt improved... FF10? I reckon all you people claiming thats the best are just obsessed with the fact of its graphics and voice/audio... the story was average at best even by FF standards... its music score was good, and its Sphere Ball minigame, but my god ... they removed the open world.... thats a major step backwards... the atmosphere wasnt all that great.. it had its EMO moments.. but beyond that .... the world felt flat. Im shocked... FF10 lacked.. seriously.
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#20 AGMing
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[QUOTE="SirWander"]

You are arguing over subjectivity, and Halo is severely overrated.

WINDWAKER1

Halo is the greatest series of all time.

defiantly not true.
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#21 sikanderahmed
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Sephiroth is girly? most characters in jrpg are girly. i do not like RPGs at all but i kinda like crisis core on psp which is a remake of FF7 (am i right?), i think FF7 remake will be great since i dont really want to play the original FF7 with poo graphics

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#22 Couth_
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It's pretty awesome even 12 years later, IMO
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#23 Some-Mist
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xenogears > ff7 imo ...but ff7 was an amazing game.

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#24 adman66
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8 was much better imo and my opinion > yours opinion so there
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#25 Couth_
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Sephiroth is girly? most characters in jrpg are girly. i do not like RPGs at all but i kinda like crisis core on psp which is a remake of FF7 (am i right?), i think FF7 remake will be great since i dont really want to play the original FF7 with poo graphics

sikanderahmed
Crisis Core is a prequel to FFVII, not a remake :P
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#26 Birdy09
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Sephiroth is girly? most characters in jrpg are girly. i do not like RPGs at all but i kinda like crisis core on psp which is a remake of FF7 (am i right?), i think FF7 remake will be great since i dont really want to play the original FF7 with poo graphics

sikanderahmed

*sigh* guys with long hair are not girly.... he has muscles a deep voice and is pretty bad ass. Long hair is not girly, looks better than the majority of guys, theyre just too **** Ironicallyto accept it.

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#27 sikanderahmed
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[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

Sephiroth is girly? most characters in jrpg are girly. i do not like RPGs at all but i kinda like crisis core on psp which is a remake of FF7 (am i right?), i think FF7 remake will be great since i dont really want to play the original FF7 with poo graphics

Couth_

Crisis Core is a prequel to FFVII, not a remake :P

oh lol i though it was a remake :( oh well looking forward to FF7 remake

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#28 g0ddyX
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OoT time is more Overrated.
Having playing both recently, ff7 is better.

People are too nostalgic.

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#29 sikanderahmed
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[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

Sephiroth is girly? most characters in jrpg are girly. i do not like RPGs at all but i kinda like crisis core on psp which is a remake of FF7 (am i right?), i think FF7 remake will be great since i dont really want to play the original FF7 with poo graphics

Birdy09

*sigh* guys with long hair are not girly.... he has muscles a deep voice and is pretty bad ass. Long hair is not girly, looks better than the majority of guys, theyre just too **** Ironicallyto accept it.

im not saying they look girly coz of hairs....but they just look girly

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#30 jwsoul
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Well, the early 3d graphics used in FF7 haven't aged well and I think a much better job is done on translating these days. The main reason I liked Sephiroth was because he actually had his own backstory and motivations. A lot of games (including early FFs) simply have a bad guy doing bad things because he is bad. I don't think it was the visual character design that made the character.

juno84
TC wouldnt know that tho would he. He\s probably never played the game or at least played it fully. Honestly its an extremelly good game one of the things that i feel makes it so Epic is the Weapons. Weapons optional enemies that you can choose to fight who take a hell of a beating i really enjoyed that aspect of the game and that aspect of all FF games since.
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#31 TheSystemLord1
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Still my favorite FF of all time. Its a personal opinion for everyone.
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#32 jonnyt61
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Oh my God, you're the most original poster ever!!! This hasn't been said hundreds, thousands of times before, has it!? Interestingly enough, a lot of the time, the people saying it, haven't even played the game. See, in my opinion, it is -one- of the best games made. It's right up there with Zelda : Link to the Past and Mario 64. Final Fantasy VI and Chrono Trigger are pretty damn amazing too. See, there are a lot of amazing games, and there are a lot of games that get praise they don't deserve... Final Fantasy VII isn't one of those.
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#33 WINDWAKER1
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Oh my God, you're the most original poster ever!!! This hasn't been said hundreds, thousands of times before, has it!? Interestingly enough, a lot of the time, the people saying it, haven't even played the game. See, in my opinion, it is -one- of the best games made. It's right up there with Zelda : Link to the Past and Mario 64. Final Fantasy VI and Chrono Trigger are pretty damn amazing too. See, there are a lot of amazing games, and there are a lot of games that get praise they don't deserve... Final Fantasy VII isn't one of those.jonnyt61

You're right, it's a terrible game

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#34 Menalque2
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Well for what it's worth I never liked FFX, but absolutely loved FFVII. It's true there were plenty of games out there that deserved just as much recognition as FFVII, but didn't... but Halo isn't one of them.

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#35 madsnakehhh
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I don't understand why Sephiroth is considered badass in the first place when he had some serious mommy issues.mo0ksi

Some friend told me something similar, Sephirot is by no means the best or the baddest FF villain. Sephirot wanted to cause the Apocalypses and in the process he kill thousends, on the other hand, Kefka DID cause the Apocalypses and kill millions.

About the thread, yes, is overrated IMO, still is an excellent game, but best FF? nop, for me is FFVIII, best PS game?, nop, for me is MGS, best JRPG, nop, for me is Crono Trigger, best game ever? wrong again.

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#36 hayato_
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Man, I haven't seen this thread made in while. :)

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#37 cainetao11
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TC I won't/can't argue with you. I can't see the draw to these games. I've tried 7, 10, 12. It's turn based, let me stand there and take punishment, but oh look at the pretty boys, and magic, junk, imo. I can't get around not being in control of my character during combat.
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#38 swazidoughman
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It is overrated, and it hasn't aged well either.

Honestly, I think the game was held back technology, and it could be amazing if it where to be remade on a modern platform.

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#39 cloudff7tm
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[QUOTE="SirWander"]

You are arguing over subjectivity, and Halo is severely overrated.

WINDWAKER1

Halo is the greatest series of all time.

Your one to talk about overrated if you say things like that.

Anyway, FF7 is one of my all time favorites. I like everything about it almost. The story, characters, setting, materia system, battle system, and even the crappy graphics.

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#40 jonnyt61
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[QUOTE="jonnyt61"]Oh my God, you're the most original poster ever!!! This hasn't been said hundreds, thousands of times before, has it!? Interestingly enough, a lot of the time, the people saying it, haven't even played the game. See, in my opinion, it is -one- of the best games made. It's right up there with Zelda : Link to the Past and Mario 64. Final Fantasy VI and Chrono Trigger are pretty damn amazing too. See, there are a lot of amazing games, and there are a lot of games that get praise they don't deserve... Final Fantasy VII isn't one of those.WINDWAKER1

You're right, it's a terrible game

Yup, a terrible game that was critically praised the world over. That's really the sign of a terrible game :roll:
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#41 JangoWuzHere
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I do think its overrated but then again I pretty much think any FF after FF6 is overrated.

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#42 Jynxzor
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TC: "I don't like this game, but so many other people do...it must be overated."
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#43 hakanakumono
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Is it really? It gets a lot of hate and I don't really see a lot of love for it, other than people listing it in "games that should be remade" threads. VII was good for 1997. Why would you compare VII to X? VII's biggest competition for "best JRPG" were SNES games.

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#44 clubsammich91
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Why do people always insist on hating something just because it is popular?
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#45 hakanakumono
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Why do people always insist on hating something just because it is popular? clubsammich91

For the same reason they flock to something they perceive as unpopular. ;)

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#46 dragonfly110
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Is it really? It gets a lot of hate and I don't really see a lot of love for it, other than people listing it in "games that should be remade" threads. VII was good for 1997. Why would you compare VII to X? VII's biggest competition for "best JRPG" were SNES games.

hakanakumono

probably because FF7 is a lot more similar to FF9 and FF10 then it was to all the FF's on SNES. that would be like me saying we shouldnt compare mario 64 to mario sunshine and galaxy, we should compare it to Super Mario World and Yoshis Island...

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#47 madsnakehhh
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Why do people always insist on hating something just because it is popular? clubsammich91

Read the comments, most people say that it's good, overrated but good, there are very few people who actually hated it.

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#48 JangoWuzHere
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tIs it really? It ges a lot of hate and I don't really see a lot of love for it, other than people listing it in "games that should be remade" threads. VII was good for 1997. Why would you compare VII to X? VII's biggest competition for "best JRPG" were SNES games.

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Haha what? I never saw that.

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#49 clubsammich91
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[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]Why do people always insist on hating something just because it is popular? madsnakehhh

Read the comments, most people say that it's good, overrated but good, there are very few people who actually hated it.

Overrated is a term that is used WAY too much here. If a game doesn't meet someones every little expectation, it's overrated People are just too picky .
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#50 resevl4rlz
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Final Fantasy 7 is one of the best games out there