So at the rate Microsoft is getting exclusives and stealing past exclusives, would a Final Fantasy 7 HD remake 360 exclusive make Playstation Fanboys get a 360?
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So at the rate Microsoft is getting exclusives and stealing past exclusives, would a Final Fantasy 7 HD remake 360 exclusive make Playstation Fanboys get a 360?
I swear the universe would combust if that happenedSo at the rate Microsoft is getting exclusives and stealing past exclusives, would a Final Fantasy 7 HD remake 360 exclusive make Playstation Fanboys get a 360?
RyanShazam
So at the rate Microsoft is getting exclusives and stealing past exclusives, would a Final Fantasy 7 HD remake 360 exclusive make Playstation Fanboys get a 360?
RyanShazam
>.> would never happen but I would so buy a 360 if I didn't own one already
I'm in no rush for a remake. Square should take a page from EVERYOTHER developer's book and release the game for download, with better scripting.Lionheart08Agreed. I find used copies of his game for around 40 - 50 bucks. That's revenue that Square-Enix is NOT ever going to see.
[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]Squaresoft favors the PS3 over the 360. HarlockJCSo far the PS3 has the least number of Square games of any of the current gen systems. As a publisher, not a developer.
[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]Squaresoft favors the PS3 over the 360. HarlockJCSo far the PS3 has the least number of Square games of any of the current gen systems.
Square Enix published games.
Not squaresoft games. Square Enix publishes Tri Ace games like Star Ocean etc.
So far the PS3 has the least number of Square games of any of the current gen systems.[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]Squaresoft favors the PS3 over the 360. hakanakumono
Square Enix published games.
Not squaresoft games. Square Enix publishes Tri Ace games like Star Ocean etc.
Currently on the Wii there is Dragon Quest Swords, FF:CD, and FFCC: My life has a king. On the 360 there is The Last Remnant. Are there any Square titles on the PS3 right now?[QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"] So far the PS3 has the least number of Square games of any of the current gen systems. HarlockJC
Square Enix published games.
Not squaresoft games. Square Enix publishes Tri Ace games like Star Ocean etc.
Currently on the Wii there is Dragon Quest Swords, FF:CD, and FFCC: My life has a king. On the 360 there is The Last Remnant. Are there any Square titles on the PS3 right now?Enix, Side game, Side game, ??? (I'm not sure if its Enix or Tri-Ace or who)?
The PS3 is getting two of squaresoft's biggest titles, Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy XIII versus.
They're just taking longer to make because of the attention and resources that have to be put into them.
[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]Currently on the Wii there is Dragon Quest Swords, FF:CD, and FFCC: My life has a king. On the 360 there is The Last Remnant. Are there any Square titles on the PS3 right now?Square Enix published games.
Not squaresoft games. Square Enix publishes Tri Ace games like Star Ocean etc.
hakanakumono
Enix, Side game, Side game, ??? (I'm not sure if its Enix or Tri-Ace or who)?
You may not like the games but it does not change the fact that so far Square has put out games on every system on the market but the PS3. There is no way you can point out that the PS3 is getting better treatment than the other systems, Yes, you may be able to name games like FFV13 that is coming out but this does not change the fact that the main game is also on the 360. In fact Square themselves have said they are going to treat all systems the same this gen even if with the current lineups you could not see how this could be true because of the lack of any Square games even "Published" for the PS3. So I have no idea where your Square likes the PS3 better comes from. Please show me where I am wrong, I don't mind being so. I have all three systems and have noticed the lack of Square support for awhile now.[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]Currently on the Wii there is Dragon Quest Swords, FF:CD, and FFCC: My life has a king. On the 360 there is The Last Remnant. Are there any Square titles on the PS3 right now?Square Enix published games.
Not squaresoft games. Square Enix publishes Tri Ace games like Star Ocean etc.
hakanakumono
Enix, Side game, Side game, ??? (I'm not sure if its Enix or Tri-Ace or who)?
The PS3 is getting two of squaresoft's biggest titles, Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy XIII versus.
They're just taking longer to make because of the attention and resources that have to be put into them.
What's a "side project". Either way they're published and developed by Square-Enix.
The Last Remnant was actually developed and published by Square-Enix.
Btw, there is no such thing as Squaresoft. It became defunct in 2003.
Wouldn't happen. Final Fantasy VII is published by Sony.dragonpuppyThat means nothing. Eidos Interactive actually published a version of the game for windows.
[QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"] Currently on the Wii there is Dragon Quest Swords, FF:CD, and FFCC: My life has a king. On the 360 there is The Last Remnant. Are there any Square titles on the PS3 right now?HarlockJC
Enix, Side game, Side game, ??? (I'm not sure if its Enix or Tri-Ace or who)?
You may not like the games but it does not change the fact that so far Square has put out games on every system on the market but the PS3. There is no way you can point out that the PS3 is getting better treatment than the other systems, Yes, you may be able to name games like FFV13 that is coming out but this does not change the fact that the main game is also on the 360. In fact Square themselves have said they are going to treat all systems the same this gen even if with the current lineups you could not see how this could be true because of the lack of any Square games even "Published" for the PS3. So I have no idea where your Square likes the PS3 better comes from. Please show me where I am wrong, I don't mind being so. I have all three systems and have noticed the lack of Square support for awhile now.Yes I can. The PS3 is getting 2 of Square's biggest Franchise - Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy XIII Versus. Square's most important title.
Square-Enix may publish a lot of titles, but its the Squaresoft team behind Final Fantasy XIII and Versus. The 360 is essentially getting a port of that title.
Note that Tri-Ace is part of Square, but Tri-Ace is doing their own thing. Tri-Ace worked with microsoft and Tri-Ace is continuing to work with Microsoft. Why has squaresoft released games for the wii before the PS3? Because the wii in itself is far less demanding than the PS3, not to mention the fact that the Final Fantasy XIII is obviously going to be a high budget game with a lot of effort into it.
[QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"] Currently on the Wii there is Dragon Quest Swords, FF:CD, and FFCC: My life has a king. On the 360 there is The Last Remnant. Are there any Square titles on the PS3 right now?Johnny-n-Roger
Enix, Side game, Side game, ??? (I'm not sure if its Enix or Tri-Ace or who)?
The PS3 is getting two of squaresoft's biggest titles, Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy XIII versus.
They're just taking longer to make because of the attention and resources that have to be put into them.
What's a "side project". Either way they're published and developed by Square-Enix.
The Last Remnant was actually developed and published by Square-Enix.
Btw, there is no such thing as Squaresoft. It became defunct in 2003.
Square-Enix is Squaresoft and Enix sharing their earnings instead of being competetors. Enix is still making Dragon Quest games. Squaresoft is still making Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy.
There is clearly a division between the square projects and the Enix projects.
Edit: A Side Project is a game on the side. Like Resident Evil Outbreak. And Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles. Published yes. Developed is a different story.
[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]You may not like the games but it does not change the fact that so far Square has put out games on every system on the market but the PS3. There is no way you can point out that the PS3 is getting better treatment than the other systems, Yes, you may be able to name games like FFV13 that is coming out but this does not change the fact that the main game is also on the 360. In fact Square themselves have said they are going to treat all systems the same this gen even if with the current lineups you could not see how this could be true because of the lack of any Square games even "Published" for the PS3. So I have no idea where your Square likes the PS3 better comes from. Please show me where I am wrong, I don't mind being so. I have all three systems and have noticed the lack of Square support for awhile now.Enix, Side game, Side game, ??? (I'm not sure if its Enix or Tri-Ace or who)?
hakanakumono
Yes I can. The PS3 is getting 2 of Square's biggest Franchise - Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy XIII Versus. Square's most important title.
Square-Enix may publish a lot of titles, but its the Squaresoft team behind Final Fantasy XIII and Versus. The 360 is essentially getting a port of that title.
Note that Tri-Ace is part of Square, but Tri-Ace is doing their own thing. Tri-Ace worked with microsoft and Tri-Ace is continuing to work with Microsoft. Why has squaresoft released games for the wii before the PS3? Because the wii in itself is far less demanding than the PS3, not to mention the fact that the Final Fantasy XIII is obviously going to be a high budget game with a lot of effort into it.
Final Fantasy XIII will be ported to the XBOX360? Link?
Last I heard the developers were using the multi platform Crystal Tools engine
Why has squaresoft released games for the wii before the PS3? Because the wii in itself is far less demanding than the PS3, not to mention the fact that the Final Fantasy XIII is obviously going to be a high budget game with a lot of effort into it.You still do not make your point that the PS3 is more well liked by Square, yes it takes longer to make a game but has proven with how many titles for the WIi have come out Sqaure can make more than a couple of games at a time. The PS3 has been out not going on 2 and half years. Look at all the great games other companies have had come out during that time. Then we just found out that Square's second biggest title Dragon Quest is going to be a Wii only game. Not a PS3 title like many though we they heard DQ9 was going to be on the DS. Then you bring up two titles which are not out yet and one which will be on the 360 anyways. If anything all you are proving is that Square is not backing the PS3 has much as other systems. You say Tri-Ace does their own thing but there are other companies which Square could pay to make games for the PS3 if they saw a profit in it or these other companies like Tri-Ace could ask Square to publish games for the PS3. If you are going to say that Square favors the PS3 then your going to need something to back that statement. So far I am sorry to say it all just sound s like excuses. I do not mean that has an attack on you. But look at it from another person stand point and you would see what I mean.hakanakumono
Edit: If there is a reply to this, I will check it after some sleep and reply tomorrow.
[QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"] You may not like the games but it does not change the fact that so far Square has put out games on every system on the market but the PS3. There is no way you can point out that the PS3 is getting better treatment than the other systems, Yes, you may be able to name games like FFV13 that is coming out but this does not change the fact that the main game is also on the 360. In fact Square themselves have said they are going to treat all systems the same this gen even if with the current lineups you could not see how this could be true because of the lack of any Square games even "Published" for the PS3. So I have no idea where your Square likes the PS3 better comes from. Please show me where I am wrong, I don't mind being so. I have all three systems and have noticed the lack of Square support for awhile now. Johnny-n-Roger
Yes I can. The PS3 is getting 2 of Square's biggest Franchise - Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy XIII Versus. Square's most important title.
Square-Enix may publish a lot of titles, but its the Squaresoft team behind Final Fantasy XIII and Versus. The 360 is essentially getting a port of that title.
Note that Tri-Ace is part of Square, but Tri-Ace is doing their own thing. Tri-Ace worked with microsoft and Tri-Ace is continuing to work with Microsoft. Why has squaresoft released games for the wii before the PS3? Because the wii in itself is far less demanding than the PS3, not to mention the fact that the Final Fantasy XIII is obviously going to be a high budget game with a lot of effort into it.
Final Fantasy XIII will be ported to the XBOX360? Link?
Last I heard the developers were using the multi platform Crystal Tools engine
I wasn't aware that it was a multiplatform tool. I do know that there will be a special team responsible for reworking XIII so that it works on the 360.
[QUOTE="hakanakumono"] Why has squaresoft released games for the wii before the PS3? Because the wii in itself is far less demanding than the PS3, not to mention the fact that the Final Fantasy XIII is obviously going to be a high budget game with a lot of effort into it.You still do not make your point that the PS3 is more well liked by Square, yes it takes longer to make a game but has proven with how many titles for the WIi have come out Sqaure can make more than a couple of games at a time. The PS3 has been out not going on 2 and half years. Look at all the great games other companies have had come out during that time. Then we just found out that Square's second biggest title Dragon Quest is going to be a Wii only game. Not a PS3 title like many though we they heard DQ9 was going to be on the DS. Then you bring up two titles which are not out yet and one which will be on the 360 anyways. If anything all you are proving is that Square is not backing the PS3 has much as other systems. You say Tri-Ace does their own thing but there are other companies which Square could pay to make games for the PS3 if they saw a profit in it or these other companies like Tri-Ace could ask Square to publish games for the PS3. If you are going to say that Square favors the PS3 then your going to need something to back that statement. So far I am sorry to say it all just sound s like excuses. I do not mean that has an attack on you. But look at it from another person stand point and you would see what I mean.HarlockJC
Edit: If there is a reply to this, I will check it after some sleep and reply tomorrow.
Dragon Quest is an Enix game published under Square Enix. Just like Final Fantasy CC is a Squaresoft game published under squaresoft.
Tri-Ace is developing games on an engine that was developed with microsoft's cooperation, hence 360 lock.
Square doesn't see profit in PS3 but they're putting their biggest franchise on it?
Haha, this is system wars not real life. I'm not emotionally attached to game consoles. I do understand what you mean. It seems like Square is abandoning sony at a glance. But if you look deeper thats not the case, especially if youy factor in the PSP. It seems that alhtough Square, Enix, Tri Ace, and whatever companies are absorbed by the great "Square-Enix" - here's looking at you Game Arts - they still uphold their individuality as game developers.
Didn't SCEA public Final Fantasy VII?Droopeh
What does that have to do with anything? Did Nintendo publishing VI matter when it was ported to the Playstation?
Didn't SCEA public Final Fantasy VII?DroopehYeah. Eidos Interactive did a version for Windows as well. What's your point?
Edit: If there is a reply to this, I will check it after some sleep and reply tomorrow.
Dragon Quest is an Enix game published under Square Enix. Just like Final Fantasy CC is a Squaresoft game published under squaresoft.
Tri-Ace is developing games on an engine that was developed with microsoft's cooperation, hence 360 lock.
Square doesn't see profit in PS3 but they're putting their biggest franchise on it?
Haha, this is system wars not real life. I'm not emotionally attached to game consoles. I do understand what you mean. It seems like Square is abandoning sony at a glance. But if you look deeper thats not the case, especially if youy factor in the PSP. It seems that alhtough Square, Enix, Tri Ace, and whatever companies are absorbed by the great "Square-Enix" - here's looking at you Game Arts - they still uphold their individuality as game developers.
Square (as well as alot of developers) obviously doesn't find Sony's system to be as profitable. It's a nightmare to develop for in comparison to Microsoft's machine. That's why they won't release any of their lesser known titles to the PS3.[QUOTE="Droopeh"]Didn't SCEA public Final Fantasy VII?Johnny-n-RogerYeah. Eidos Interactive did a version for Windows as well. What's your point?
Dude stop trying to make out that a publisher has no say what so ever because that is total BS
neither you nor anyone else here knows what was in that contract , so yes FFVII could very well be exclusive to a Sony console
Did you see a FFVII on any other console other than a Sony one ? Its funny as well with all the FF remakes Square has been doing for the DS what 1,2,3,4,5,6 but no 7 just something to note
Yeah. Eidos Interactive did a version for Windows as well. What's your point?[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="Droopeh"]Didn't SCEA public Final Fantasy VII?micky4889
Dude stop trying to make out that a publisher has no say what so ever because that is total BS
neither you nor anyone else here knows what was in that contract , so yes FFVII could very well be exclusive to a Sony console
Did you see a FFVII on any other system other than a Sony one ? Its funny as well with all the FF remakes Square has been doing for the DS what 1,2,3,4,5,6 but no 7 just something to note
Windows isn't a Sony system :|[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] Yeah. Eidos Interactive did a version for Windows as well. What's your point?Johnny-n-Roger
Dude stop trying to make out that a publisher has no say what so ever because that is total BS
neither you nor anyone else here knows what was in that contract , so yes FFVII could very well be exclusive to a Sony console
Did you see a FFVII on any other system other than a Sony one ? Its funny as well with all the FF remakes Square has been doing for the DS what 1,2,3,4,5,6 but no 7 just some;thing to note
Windows isn't a Sony system :|have a read again ;)
"Sony console"
edit: sorry my bad you missed my edit lol
[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="micky4889"]Windows isn't a Sony system :|Dude stop trying to make out that a publisher has no say what so ever because that is total BS
neither you nor anyone else here knows what was in that contract , so yes FFVII could very well be exclusive to a Sony console
Did you see a FFVII on any other system other than a Sony one ? Its funny as well with all the FF remakes Square has been doing for the DS what 1,2,3,4,5,6 but no 7 just some;thing to note
micky4889
have a read again ;)
"Sony console"
edit: sorry my bad you missed my edit lol
Hahaha brilliant.
[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="micky4889"]Windows isn't a Sony system :|Dude stop trying to make out that a publisher has no say what so ever because that is total BS
neither you nor anyone else here knows what was in that contract , so yes FFVII could very well be exclusive to a Sony console
Did you see a FFVII on any other system other than a Sony one ? Its funny as well with all the FF remakes Square has been doing for the DS what 1,2,3,4,5,6 but no 7 just some;thing to note
micky4889
have a read again ;)
"Sony console"
edit: sorry my bad you missed my edit lol
Dirge of Cerberus and Crisis core are both published by Square-Enix. Their exclusivity to Sony's consoles has nothing to do with publishing rights. Final Fantasy VII has never been remade on ANY console, therefore it's difficult to assume that is related to publishing rights either. I'm not saying that Sony doesn't have some sort of contract with Square Enix regarding the title (maybe even nonapplicable in certain regions), but you can't also assume that the game will remain a Sony exclusive based on the game's original publisher.[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] Windows isn't a Sony system :|Johnny-n-Roger
have a read again ;)
"Sony console"
edit: sorry my bad you missed my edit lol
Dirge of Cerberus and Crisis core are both published by Square-Enix. Their exclusivity to Sony's consoles has nothing to do with publishing rights. Final Fantasy VII has never been remade on ANY console, therefore it's difficult to assume that is related to publishing rights either. I'm not saying that Sony doesn't have some sort of contract with Square Enix regarding the title (maybe even nonapplicable in certain regions), but you can't also assume that the game will remain a Sony exclusive based on the game's original publisher.Those are both on sony consoles, just so you know. o.o;
have a read again ;)
"Sony console"
edit: sorry my bad you missed my edit lol
Dirge of Cerberus and Crisis core are both published by Square-Enix. Their exclusivity to Sony's consoles has nothing to do with publishing rights. Final Fantasy VII has never been remade on ANY console, therefore it's difficult to assume that is related to publishing rights either. I'm not saying that Sony doesn't have some sort of contract with Square Enix regarding the title (maybe even nonapplicable in certain regions), but you can't also assume that the game will remain a Sony exclusive based on the game's original publisher.Those are both on sony consoles, just so you know. o.o;
Your point being? It was purely Square-Enix's disgression, as Sony doesn't have publishing rights to either game.[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] Windows isn't a Sony system :|Johnny-n-Roger
have a read again ;)
"Sony console"
edit: sorry my bad you missed my edit lol
Dirge of Cerberus and Crisis core are both published by Square-Enix. Their exclusivity to Sony's consoles has nothing to do with publishing rights. Final Fantasy VII has never been remade on ANY console, therefore it's difficult to assume that is related to publishing rights either. I'm not saying that Sony doesn't have some sort of contract with Square Enix regarding the title (maybe even nonapplicable in certain regions), but you can't also assume that the game will remain a Sony exclusive based on the game's original publisher. Dude im not saying it wont be multiplat im just saying that Sony does have some say in what happens to it and to say other wise is laughable but then again like i said earlier in this thread i dont care if its muiltiplat i just cant wait to play this game again in HD :)[QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] Dirge of Cerberus and Crisis core are both published by Square-Enix. Their exclusivity to Sony's consoles has nothing to do with publishing rights. Final Fantasy VII has never been remade on ANY console, therefore it's difficult to assume that is related to publishing rights either. I'm not saying that Sony doesn't have some sort of contract with Square Enix regarding the title (maybe even nonapplicable in certain regions), but you can't also assume that the game will remain a Sony exclusive based on the game's original publisher.Johnny-n-Roger
Those are both on sony consoles, just so you know. o.o;
Your point being? It was purely Square-Enix's disgression, as Sony doesn't have publishing rights to either game.Uhm, they're not Final Fantasy VII ... They're side games ... That are on sony systems defeating your point. ._.;
have a read again ;)
"Sony console"
edit: sorry my bad you missed my edit lol
Dirge of Cerberus and Crisis core are both published by Square-Enix. Their exclusivity to Sony's consoles has nothing to do with publishing rights. Final Fantasy VII has never been remade on ANY console, therefore it's difficult to assume that is related to publishing rights either. I'm not saying that Sony doesn't have some sort of contract with Square Enix regarding the title (maybe even nonapplicable in certain regions), but you can't also assume that the game will remain a Sony exclusive based on the game's original publisher. Dude im not saying it wont be multiplat im just saying that Sony does have some say in what happens to it and to say other wise is laughable but then again like i said earlier in this thread i dont care if its muiltiplat i just cant wait to play this game again in HD :) How is believing or not disbelieving something that hasn't been proven "laughable"? Assuming Sony does have rights, they only go as far as Europe and North America. The regional conflict of rights is probably why there will never be a remake of the game for ANY console. Why is S-E as a developer and publisher going to develop a game if they're going to have to cough it up to Sony at the expense of some profits when they can release a spin-off (Crisis Core) and publish it themselves. In that scenario, it would not so much be a conflict between Sony retaining exclusivity from Microsoft Nintendo as much as a conflict between Square-Enix to acquire publishing rights to the game before they even begin thinking about putting it into development.Those are both on sony consoles, just so you know. o.o;
Your point being? It was purely Square-Enix's disgression, as Sony doesn't have publishing rights to either game.Uhm, they're not Final Fantasy VII ... They're side games ... That are on sony systems defeating your point. ._.;
I'm still not sure what you're trying to say. I was arguing the point that all FFVII are sony exclusive, which they are. I countered by saying that it was purely S-E's decision not based on publishing rights. If you talking about my regards for Square-Enix not supporting the PS3, it's completely unrelated. From a few minutes into the game you can tell that The Last Remnant was obviously force to a dead-line. Most likely a deadline that couldn't have been met had it been in development for the PS3. The cell is a more complicated processor therefore more difficult to program for.[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] Dirge of Cerberus and Crisis core are both published by Square-Enix. Their exclusivity to Sony's consoles has nothing to do with publishing rights. Final Fantasy VII has never been remade on ANY console, therefore it's difficult to assume that is related to publishing rights either. I'm not saying that Sony doesn't have some sort of contract with Square Enix regarding the title (maybe even nonapplicable in certain regions), but you can't also assume that the game will remain a Sony exclusive based on the game's original publisher.Johnny-n-RogerDude im not saying it wont be multiplat im just saying that Sony does have some say in what happens to it and to say other wise is laughable but then again like i said earlier in this thread i dont care if its muiltiplat i just cant wait to play this game again in HD :) How is believing or not disbelieving something that hasn't been proven "laughable"? Assuming Sony does have rights, they only go as far as Europe and North America. The regional conflict of rights is probably why there will never be a remake of the game for ANY console. Why is S-E as a developer and publisher going to develop a game if they're going to have to cough it up to Sony at the expense of some profits when they can release a spin-off (Crisis Core) and publish it themselves. In that scenario, it would not so much be a conflict between Sony retaining exclusivity from Microsoft Nintendo as much as a conflict between Square-Enix to acquire publishing rights to the game before they even begin thinking about putting it into development.
What regional conflict are you talking about? o_O; Why would sony rights only go as far as Europe and North America? Square-Enix owns the rights to Final Fantasy, it was re-released for playstation under the green label under Square-Enix in 2003.
Doesn't sony take a cut on ALL games sold on sony consoles?
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