Final fantasy WHO?!?! Mass Effect buries FF as new storytelling champion

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#1 novasypder77
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So long final fantasy, it was good run of 18-some games but Mass Effect has emerged as the new premier RPG! Say goodbye to girly characters and hours of boring non interactive CG with lame combat!!! Viva Mass Effect!
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#2 Cubs360
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Dude, what is the point of this topic, its a rant and no one cares, find something better to do.
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#3 Catastrophe123
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I hope your joking...

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#4 jethrovegas
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I'm sorry, I missed the part where FF was ever crowned the "storytelling champion"... :|
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I'm sorry, I missed the part where FF was ever crowned the "storytelling champion"... :|jethrovegas

yeah, mgs wins that one.

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#6 Ragnarok1051
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So I guess lemmings gave up with LO and BD?
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#7 OremLK
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I'm sorry, I missed the part where FF was ever crowned the "storytelling champion"... :|jethrovegas

I missed the part where any Japanese game has ever come close to that title.

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#8 DaysAirlines
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If I see another ME>FF thread I'm going to go into one of my alt lemming accounts and fakeboy it up.
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#9 MasterC5
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They story is not better then the classic FFs but it sure beats the crap out of the **** stories after 7, im ashamed that I even keep buying FF games I hope Square can someday blow me away again like the first time I played FF6 or 7
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#10 yoshi_64
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The value of a story and it's for lack of a better word "betterness" is opinionated. FF isn't going to be taken out by one game, and one storyline of a game won't rival that, or even "beat" that of another game. Reason being... ME is a sci-fi game. That alone changes the boundaries and limitations of the way the story, characters, settings, etc can be placed, where FF games are in a fantasy set universe. Nothing is impossible to believe in these games, they are in worlds where there is usually no advanced technology, things in these worlds rely on magic.
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#11 stika
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They story is not better then the classic FFs but it sure beats the crap out of the **** stories after 7, im ashamed that I even keep buying FF games I hope Square can someday blow me away again like the first time I played FF6 or 7MasterC5

they wont blow you away as long as you keep buying them, i know sometimes is hard to resist (i bought FF tactics for the PSP) but try to avoid buying anymore FF games until they finally understand we want the series to be what it used to be

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#12 JunkanooPunch
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I hate to break it to you TC, but one game is not gonna erase all the good classic's from Square and Square Enix.

I have pretty much hated most FF games that have come out after FF7, but I still have a HUGE amount of respect for them, because of there Nes, SNES, and Playstation 1 & 2 era's.

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[QUOTE="MasterC5"]They story is not better then the classic FFs but it sure beats the crap out of the **** stories after 7, im ashamed that I even keep buying FF games I hope Square can someday blow me away again like the first time I played FF6 or 7stika

they wont blow you away as long as you keep buying them, i know sometimes is hard to resist (i bought FF tactics for the PSP) but try to avoid buying anymore FF games until they finally understand we want the series to be what it used to be

Im going to try and rent 13 this time instead of buying it from the start like 12 (big ass mistake) to see if its even remotely as good as Squares classic games.

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8.5'd
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#15 stika
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[QUOTE="stika"]

[QUOTE="MasterC5"]They story is not better then the classic FFs but it sure beats the crap out of the **** stories after 7, im ashamed that I even keep buying FF games I hope Square can someday blow me away again like the first time I played FF6 or 7MasterC5

they wont blow you away as long as you keep buying them, i know sometimes is hard to resist (i bought FF tactics for the PSP) but try to avoid buying anymore FF games until they finally understand we want the series to be what it used to be

Im going to try and rent 13 this time instead of buying it from the start like 12 (big ass mistake) to see if its even remotely as good as Squares classic games.

the last FF i bought was tactics for the PSP, the one before that was FF x-2 for the PS2, and i dont regret one bit with each new installment all i hear is how the FF isnt what it used to be and etc.

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#16 Liquid-GEAR
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[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]I'm sorry, I missed the part where FF was ever crowned the "storytelling champion"... :|OremLK

I missed the part where any Japanese game has ever come close to that title.

you fail
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#17 Ollivander
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The stories in recent Final Fantasy's are far from epic and amazing. 12 was the best in years but still lacked character development.
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So long final fantasy, it was good run of 18-some games but Mass Effect has emerged as the new premier RPG! Say goodbye to girly characters and hours of boring non interactive CG with lame combat!!! Viva Mass Effect!novasypder77

i will say that mass effect had one of the best stories in any game ive played, BUT saying its better than FF is just shootin your mouth off, here, you'll need this

*hands flame shield*

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[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]I'm sorry, I missed the part where FF was ever crowned the "storytelling champion"... :|exiledsnake

yeah, mgs wins that one.

It's no contest... although FF's storylines can't be generic if FF is the series setting the precedent, can they?

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lol. lemmings get excited cause their inferior console finally gets a remotely interesting RPG. thing is, they're new to the RPG genre, they're not aware of the superiority of the FF series. besides, ME is a disgusting flop. 8.5 :lol:
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lame attempt at damage control
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#22 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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God how many of these threads are we going to see? Enough is enough

Besides comparing WRPG's to JRPG's is like comparing RTS to FPS. They might both be classed (erroniously IMO) as RPG's but they are vastly different.

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#23 MasterC5
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[QUOTE="MasterC5"][QUOTE="stika"]

[QUOTE="MasterC5"]They story is not better then the classic FFs but it sure beats the crap out of the **** stories after 7, im ashamed that I even keep buying FF games I hope Square can someday blow me away again like the first time I played FF6 or 7stika

they wont blow you away as long as you keep buying them, i know sometimes is hard to resist (i bought FF tactics for the PSP) but try to avoid buying anymore FF games until they finally understand we want the series to be what it used to be

Im going to try and rent 13 this time instead of buying it from the start like 12 (big ass mistake) to see if its even remotely as good as Squares classic games.

the last FF i bought was tactics for the PSP, the one before that was FF x-2 for the PS2, and i dont regret one bit with each new installment all i hear is how the FF isnt what it used to be and etc.

Pleasse tell me you didnt enjoy X2 that game was so bad I cired because I ad wasted money on it.
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#24 DarkCloud79
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Not again.

I can see lemmings this morning:

"Humm, what's on the schedule today, oh saying ME> FF. And tomorrow, claiming that the earth is plain."

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#26 stika
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lol. lemmings get excited cause their inferior console finally gets a remotely interesting RPG. thing is, they're new to the RPG genre, they're not aware of the superiority of the FF series. besides, ME is a disgusting flop. 8.5 :lol:MasterChief1013

GS´s score was kind of underrated, still if you wana throw the flop card i think you should think twice

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#27 stika
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[QUOTE="stika"][QUOTE="MasterC5"][QUOTE="stika"]

[QUOTE="MasterC5"]They story is not better then the classic FFs but it sure beats the crap out of the **** stories after 7, im ashamed that I even keep buying FF games I hope Square can someday blow me away again like the first time I played FF6 or 7MasterC5

they wont blow you away as long as you keep buying them, i know sometimes is hard to resist (i bought FF tactics for the PSP) but try to avoid buying anymore FF games until they finally understand we want the series to be what it used to be

Im going to try and rent 13 this time instead of buying it from the start like 12 (big ass mistake) to see if its even remotely as good as Squares classic games.

the last FF i bought was tactics for the PSP, the one before that was FF x-2 for the PS2, and i dont regret one bit with each new installment all i hear is how the FF isnt what it used to be and etc.

Pleasse tell me you didnt enjoy X2 that game was so bad I cired because I ad wasted money on it.

i have around 12 hours of gameplay, and then i never touched that accursed DVD again, it was the FF that stopped me from even PLAYING FF 11, 12 (and eventually) 13

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[QUOTE="MasterC5"][QUOTE="stika"][QUOTE="MasterC5"][QUOTE="stika"]

[QUOTE="MasterC5"]They story is not better then the classic FFs but it sure beats the crap out of the **** stories after 7, im ashamed that I even keep buying FF games I hope Square can someday blow me away again like the first time I played FF6 or 7stika

they wont blow you away as long as you keep buying them, i know sometimes is hard to resist (i bought FF tactics for the PSP) but try to avoid buying anymore FF games until they finally understand we want the series to be what it used to be

Im going to try and rent 13 this time instead of buying it from the start like 12 (big ass mistake) to see if its even remotely as good as Squares classic games.

the last FF i bought was tactics for the PSP, the one before that was FF x-2 for the PS2, and i dont regret one bit with each new installment all i hear is how the FF isnt what it used to be and etc.

Pleasse tell me you didnt enjoy X2 that game was so bad I cired because I ad wasted money on it.

i have around 12 hours of gameplay, and then i never touched that accursed DVD again, it was the FF that stopped me from even PLAYING FF 11, 12 (and eventually) 13

Every copy of that game needs to be burned now, it was like **** sailor moon crossed with Final Fantasy which no one in there right mind should consider FUN.

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Im thinking to be a cow just for this stupid comparison that happens every week 200 times from lemmings, ME is a flop, FF will not flop ever, take that.
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#30 stika
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[QUOTE="stika"][QUOTE="MasterC5"][QUOTE="stika"][QUOTE="MasterC5"][QUOTE="stika"]

[QUOTE="MasterC5"]They story is not better then the classic FFs but it sure beats the crap out of the **** stories after 7, im ashamed that I even keep buying FF games I hope Square can someday blow me away again like the first time I played FF6 or 7MasterC5

they wont blow you away as long as you keep buying them, i know sometimes is hard to resist (i bought FF tactics for the PSP) but try to avoid buying anymore FF games until they finally understand we want the series to be what it used to be

Im going to try and rent 13 this time instead of buying it from the start like 12 (big ass mistake) to see if its even remotely as good as Squares classic games.

the last FF i bought was tactics for the PSP, the one before that was FF x-2 for the PS2, and i dont regret one bit with each new installment all i hear is how the FF isnt what it used to be and etc.

Pleasse tell me you didnt enjoy X2 that game was so bad I cired because I ad wasted money on it.

i have around 12 hours of gameplay, and then i never touched that accursed DVD again, it was the FF that stopped me from even PLAYING FF 11, 12 (and eventually) 13

Every copy of that game needs to be burned now, it was like **** sailor moon crossed with Final Fantasy which no one in there right mind should consider FUN.

sailor moon huh? i always called it "what charlie´s angels would look like if it was made in Japan"

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I've always hate FF (Besides FF TACTICS) SO THERE!
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#33 MasterC5
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[QUOTE="MasterC5"][QUOTE="stika"][QUOTE="MasterC5"][QUOTE="stika"][QUOTE="MasterC5"][QUOTE="stika"]

[QUOTE="MasterC5"]They story is not better then the classic FFs but it sure beats the crap out of the **** stories after 7, im ashamed that I even keep buying FF games I hope Square can someday blow me away again like the first time I played FF6 or 7stika

they wont blow you away as long as you keep buying them, i know sometimes is hard to resist (i bought FF tactics for the PSP) but try to avoid buying anymore FF games until they finally understand we want the series to be what it used to be

Im going to try and rent 13 this time instead of buying it from the start like 12 (big ass mistake) to see if its even remotely as good as Squares classic games.

the last FF i bought was tactics for the PSP, the one before that was FF x-2 for the PS2, and i dont regret one bit with each new installment all i hear is how the FF isnt what it used to be and etc.

Pleasse tell me you didnt enjoy X2 that game was so bad I cired because I ad wasted money on it.

i have around 12 hours of gameplay, and then i never touched that accursed DVD again, it was the FF that stopped me from even PLAYING FF 11, 12 (and eventually) 13

Every copy of that game needs to be burned now, it was like **** sailor moon crossed with Final Fantasy which no one in there right mind should consider FUN.

sailor moon huh? i always called it "what charlie´s angels would look like if it was made in Japan"

HAHA lol true indeed.
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#34 strahd01
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So I guess lemmings gave up with LO and BD?Ragnarok1051

I guess so I haven't lost hope though I think LO will be a great JRPG I am still gonna play BD when it gets down in price. Mass Effect is a great game. The presentation is awesome and the universe codex is so detail ( on par with star trek universe codex) i can see many books and maybe even a table top RPG comming out for it I am glad this is planned to be a trilogy, i am sure i will overplay this game.

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#35 krunkfu2
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I'm sorry, I missed the part where FF was ever crowned the "storytelling champion"... :|jethrovegas

same here

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#36 ASK_Story
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I never thought the FF series had good stories. It's the gameplay, awesome design, artwork, and production quality that keeps me playing, NOT the story.
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[QUOTE="MasterChief1013"]lol. lemmings get excited cause their inferior console finally gets a remotely interesting RPG. thing is, they're new to the RPG genre, they're not aware of the superiority of the FF series. besides, ME is a disgusting flop. 8.5 :lol:stika

GS´s score was kind of underrated, still if you wana throw the flop card i think you should think twice

--> http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/ratchetclank/index.html?tag=result;title;0

--> http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/lair/index.html?tag=result;title;0



i didn't hype either of those games, and if you'd read my other posts, you'd KNOW how much i bash lair for being such a failure. thats the thing; i KNOW when a game flops, but i don't go making threads thats its ''TEH BEST GAME EVAR GS UNDERRATED!!''

mass effect is a disgusting flop. get over it. the Xflop 360 never was a console for RPG's. look at the horrible failures. (and Oblivion was multi, so you can't count that.)

the PS3 will have an abundance of amazing AAAE RPG's, no matter how much you deny it. the Xflop will continue to pump out filthy, overrated RPG's.

and that's that ;)
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#38 lawlessx
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you give the FF series too much credit
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[QUOTE="stika"]

[QUOTE="MasterChief1013"]lol. lemmings get excited cause their inferior console finally gets a remotely interesting RPG. thing is, they're new to the RPG genre, they're not aware of the superiority of the FF series. besides, ME is a disgusting flop. 8.5 :lol:MasterChief1013

GS´s score was kind of underrated, still if you wana throw the flop card i think you should think twice

--> http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/ratchetclank/index.html?tag=result;title;0

--> http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/lair/index.html?tag=result;title;0



i didn't hype either of those games, and if you'd read my other posts, you'd KNOW how much i bash lair for being such a failure. thats the thing; i KNOW when a game flops, but i don't go making threads thats its ''TEH BEST GAME EVAR GS UNDERRATED!!''

mass effect is a disgusting flop. get over it. the Xflop 360 never was a console for RPG's. look at the horrible failures. (and Oblivion was multi, so you can't count that.)

the PS3 will have an abundance of amazing AAAE RPG's, no matter how much you deny it. the Xflop will continue to pump out filthy, overrated RPG's.

and that's that ;)

what overrated RPG's are you refferring too? or are you just going to call any RPG that on the xbox360 that gets an AAA rating overrated to make youself feel better?

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Its agreat game hence the 8.5 not godly
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[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]I'm sorry, I missed the part where FF was ever crowned the "storytelling champion"... :|OremLK

I missed the part where any Japanese game has ever come close to that title.

I always see you bashing Japanese games why do you hate them? Anyways TC FF was never the master of storytelling although FF6, 7,Tactics and FF9 had verynice plots . Best in story telling will have to go to the Metal Gear Solid series, Half Life, Shin Megami Tensei and Persona
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#42 wavedash101
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Anyone calming MGS is anywhere near best storytelling seriously needs to go back and play the games...the plot is a incoherent mess with bizzare plot twists seemingly spewed out of hyperactive 13 year old's head. It isnt even Kojima best storytelling, Snatcher and Policenauts easilybeat MGS
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Anyone calming MGS is anywhere near best storytelling seriously needs to go back and play the games...the plot is a incoherent mess with bizzare plot twists seemingly spewed out of hyperactive 13 year old's head. It isnt even Kojima best storytelling, Snatcher and Policenauts easilybeat MGSwavedash101
Go back and play the games? I can't tell you how times I beat every single MG and MGS game and I still think they have the greatest stories in video games today
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besides, ME is a disgusting flop. 8.5 :lol:MasterChief1013

Flop- A game that has not lived up to System Wars expectations, such as when a game is hyped AAA and gets below AAA status, or when a game is hyped to a certain score and fails to achieve it. DOES NOT determine the worth of the game.

Like most RPGs, it was flopped for technical problems, not because of its story, which is what we're arguing about.
Just read the first line of the review: "Developer BioWare has always been at the forefront of progressive storytelling in games, so it's no surprise that Mass Effect's story is one of its best yet."

Having said that, I'd love to see how Mass Effect's plot and storytelling compares to, say, The Witcher's. I wouldn't normally consider Bioware to be one of the best WRPG 'storytelling' companies, but it seems like Mass Effect had changed that.

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ya new premier of screen tearing and releasing game without QA testing, sometimes I wonder if the goverment should set a piece of land on the side for retards, may be they can explore it on their own and live with A&& Effect!
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#48 mattyomo99
Member since 2005 • 3915 Posts
your comparing a RPG game on the 360 to a bunch of RPGs on the ps2 and 1... wait till next gen FF gets here for you to decide
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#49 osirisomeomi
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Final Fantasy isn't really about telling a story. The stories told in FF are hamstrung by the frequent sidequests. FF is about progression, making your character the biggest and strongest, defeating the most powerful of enemies, and getting all the cool items. A lot more could be done with the series, but it's very good at what it does. Mass Effect is the exact same thing, only not as much and with more story. Different strokes for different folks.
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#50 Blinblingthing
Member since 2005 • 6943 Posts

If I see another ME>FF thread I'm going to go into one of my alt lemming accounts and fakeboy it up.DaysAirlines

Your already in the account :roll: