Final Fantasy XII is actually a ripoff of skies of arcadia

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#1 -Ramirez-
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:lol: The storyline is literally the same apart from a few minor differences. :lol:

Square have to copy other games storylines, what a terrible developer.
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#2 MaxxxReebo
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:lol: The storyline is literally the same apart from a few minor differences. :lol:

Square have to copy other games storylines, what a terrible developer.
-Ramirez-


Actaully, there's a lot of similarity between 12 and 11, also.
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#3 marioblah
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Okay... A lot stories are very similar because there aren't many good new ideas anymore.

Example- Halo- Based off a book

Also, anyone who calls Square a  bad developer deserves to be impaled with a Gunblade

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:lol: The storyline is literally the same apart from a few minor differences. :lol:

Square have to copy other games storylines, what a terrible developer.
-Ramirez-
they did? wow that sucks? They copied the best RPG of last gen, so I guess who wouldn't want to copy it.
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#5 -Ramirez-
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After they made such a good and original story in Final Fantasy X, it's sad that they ahd to go and copy another game with their story in XII.
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#6 her0_54
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Why wasn't this thread done ages ago? It's a little late to discuss it now.
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This is such a sad thread.
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#8 LoG-Sacrament
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[QUOTE="-Ramirez-"]:lol: The storyline is literally the same apart from a few minor differences. :lol:

Square have to copy other games storylines, what a terrible developer.
MaxxxReebo


Actaully, there's a lot of similarity between 12 and 11, also.

yep, i hate when devs steal from themselves too. if you have the nerve to steal from yourself, you should give it back.
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#9 da1on2
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How?
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#10 -Spock-
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What aspect of the story? If it's the airships, then I will inform you that every Final Fantasy ever made has featured them... even the ancient 80s itterations on the NES...

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#11 Ibacai
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Yup, lets see bullet points here TC.
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#12 -Ramirez-
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How many of you in here have actually played both games? Surely you can see how their stories are similar? :|
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#13 marioblah
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How many of you in here have actually played both games? Surely you can see how their stories are similar? :|
-Ramirez-

Why does it matter? Personally, it has no ramifictations to if a game is enjoyable or not. Final Fantasy XII has kickass characters to tell the story (Even if half of them serve no point in the plot)

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#14 MaxxxReebo
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[QUOTE="MaxxxReebo"][QUOTE="-Ramirez-"]:lol: The storyline is literally the same apart from a few minor differences. :lol:

Square have to copy other games storylines, what a terrible developer.
LoG-Sacrament


Actaully, there's a lot of similarity between 12 and 11, also.

yep, i hate when devs steal from themselves too. if you have the nerve to steal from yourself, you should give it back.



O.o ... ... ... kay.
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[QUOTE="-Ramirez-"]How many of you in here have actually played both games? Surely you can see how their stories are similar? :|
KoreanX

Why does it matter? Personally, it has no ramifictations to if a game is enjoyable or not. Final Fantasy XII has kickass characters to tell the story (Even if half of them serve no point in the plot)

Urgh... I thought the characters were pretty boring personally bar Balthier. What sucks is that FFX had an amazing story and characters but average gameplay, then XII finally brings in some good gameplay and the storyline and characters suck.

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Kind of like how Tales of Symphonia's storyline is heavily derivative of Final Fantasy X? 
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#17 Ibacai
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How many of you in here have actually played both games? Surely you can see how their stories are similar? :|
-Ramirez-
Sure, i've played both and I could point out similarities but I'm going to make you back up your statement. That or just call you a liar with no proof. You're expecting people to just accept what you say at face value.....on the internet.
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#18 -Ramirez-
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[QUOTE="-Ramirez-"]How many of you in here have actually played both games? Surely you can see how their stories are similar? :|
Ibacai
Sure, i've played both and I could point out similarities but I'm going to make you back up your statement. That or just call you a liar with no proof. You're expecting people to just accept what you say at face value.....on the internet.

You can't make me back up anything kiddo. If you can't see the simularities you blatantly haven;t played both games. So leave and let the people who have played them both discuss it in harmony.
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N:|.
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How many of you in here have actually played both games? Surely you can see how their stories are similar? :|
-Ramirez-
I've played and beaten both games and they are much different.
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#21 fatzombiepigeon
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Okay... A lot stories are very similar because there aren't many good new ideas anymore.

Example- Halo- Based off a book

Also, anyone who calls Square a  bad developer deserves to be impaled with a Gunblade

KoreanX


I don't like them as much as I used to....they just keep milking FF, I want a new PE.

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#22 Ibacai
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[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="-Ramirez-"]How many of you in here have actually played both games? Surely you can see how their stories are similar? :|
-Ramirez-
Sure, i've played both and I could point out similarities but I'm going to make you back up your statement. That or just call you a liar with no proof. You're expecting people to just accept what you say at face value.....on the internet.

You can't make me back up anything kiddo. If you can't see the simularities you blatantly haven;t played both games. So leave and let the people who have played them both discuss it in harmony.

Can you read?
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#23 Kikouken
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You know, ALL Final Fantasies share a little bit of similarity.
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#24 -Ramirez-
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[QUOTE="-Ramirez-"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="-Ramirez-"]How many of you in here have actually played both games? Surely you can see how their stories are similar? :|
Ibacai
Sure, i've played both and I could point out similarities but I'm going to make you back up your statement. That or just call you a liar with no proof. You're expecting people to just accept what you say at face value.....on the internet.

You can't make me back up anything kiddo. If you can't see the simularities you blatantly haven;t played both games. So leave and let the people who have played them both discuss it in harmony.

Can you read?

Rhetorical questions don't change the fact you've been owned. Run along now kiddo.
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After they made such a good and original story in Final Fantasy X, it's sad that they ahd to go and copy another game with their story in XII.
-Ramirez-

X story was way too guessable..

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#26 Episode_Eve
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Kind of like how Tales of Symphonia's storyline is heavily derivative of Final Fantasy X? sonicmj1
Now I see the definite similarity with that. Both stories revolve around a pilgrimage.
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[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="-Ramirez-"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="-Ramirez-"]How many of you in here have actually played both games? Surely you can see how their stories are similar? :|
-Ramirez-
Sure, i've played both and I could point out similarities but I'm going to make you back up your statement. That or just call you a liar with no proof. You're expecting people to just accept what you say at face value.....on the internet.

You can't make me back up anything kiddo. If you can't see the simularities you blatantly haven;t played both games. So leave and let the people who have played them both discuss it in harmony.

Can you read?

Rhetorical questions don't change the fact you've been owned. Run along now kiddo.

Wow, how childish. How have I been owned? What rhetorical question? You can't even prove your first statement.
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#28 -Ramirez-
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[QUOTE="-Ramirez-"]After they made such a good and original story in Final Fantasy X, it's sad that they ahd to go and copy another game with their story in XII.
MrGrimFandango

X story was way too guessable..

Perhaps some portions of it were. But I liked the complexity of many parts of the story.
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#29 marioblah
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[QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]

[QUOTE="-Ramirez-"]After they made such a good and original story in Final Fantasy X, it's sad that they ahd to go and copy another game with their story in XII.
-Ramirez-

X story was way too guessable..

Perhaps some portions of it were. But I liked the complexity of many parts of the story.

Plot twists were cool too.

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#30 deadlypencil
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What if i told you final fantasy X was ripped off another game i know.. but i wont tell you what they ripped off or what the games name is... lol... thats what you sound like.

I bet your friend played skies of arcadia and told you FF 12 is very simular... you then make this topic to get attention but youve actually never played it yourself.

How about i just PRETEND to have played skies of arcadia (like your doing) and call you a liar. Now are you going to accept the fact that I'm calling you a liar? Or are you actually going to back up your claims?

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[QUOTE="-Ramirez-"]How many of you in here have actually played both games? Surely you can see how their stories are similar? :|
Episode_Eve
I've played and beaten both games and they are much different.

The characters especially reminded me of Skies. Balthier reminded me of Gilder. Cid reminded me of De Loco. And the whole storyline based around an empire trying to take over different places and the whole nephacite thing just reminded me of the skies of arcadia and the valuan empire trying to take over lands to gain the giga crystals. The war thing also reminded me of the Valua/Nasr war. It just seemed really familiar.
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#32 Silvereign
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[QUOTE="-Ramirez-"]:lol: The storyline is literally the same apart from a few minor differences. :lol:

Square have to copy other games storylines, what a terrible developer.
MaxxxReebo


Actaully, there's a lot of similarity between 12 and 11, also.



12 and 10 basically had the same characters

Vaan being Tidus
Penelo being the thief chick Rukia I think
Fran being a hybrid between the blue beast guy and Lulu the blk mage chick
Balthier being Wakka
Basch being Auron
and the Princess girl being Yuna.

Some of them even looked alike. Vaan and Tidus looked like Sarach Michelle Gillar off of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

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#33 Ibacai
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[QUOTE="MaxxxReebo"][QUOTE="-Ramirez-"]:lol: The storyline is literally the same apart from a few minor differences. :lol:

Square have to copy other games storylines, what a terrible developer.
Silvereign


Actaully, there's a lot of similarity between 12 and 11, also.



12 and 10 basically had the same characters

Vaan being Tidus
Penelo being the thief chick Rukia I think
Fran being a hybrid between the blue beast guy and Lulu the blk mage chick
Balthier being Wakka
Basch being Auron
and the Princess girl being Yuna.

Some of them even looked alike. Vaan and Tidus looked like Sarach Michelle Gillar off of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Ouch, Balthier was much better then Wakka. It's not even funny how annoying Wakka was in FFX.
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#34 Ibacai
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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="-Ramirez-"]How many of you in here have actually played both games? Surely you can see how their stories are similar? :|
-Ramirez-
I've played and beaten both games and they are much different.

The characters especially reminded me of Skies. Balthier reminded me of Gilder. Cid reminded me of De Loco. And the whole storyline based around an empire trying to take over different places and the whole nephacite thing just reminded me of the skies of arcadia and the valuan empire trying to take over lands to gain the giga crystals. The war thing also reminded me of the Valua/Nasr war. It just seemed really familiar.

I have to agree on the rough similarities, they are there but not a true ripoff. I guess just how the initial quests begin in each game are different as well. Just an outline here. SPOILERS Skies - Rescue an unknown girl from an imperial ship -> Take her to pirate island -> Go off and investigate a falling star (Moonstone, fuel for ships) -> Come back to find Pirate Island attacked and villagers kidnapped -> And you're off to save your friends and the world FFXII - (Skipping the beginning assassination) -> Pretty much an orphan raised by a shop owner is in a city under imperial control -> Learns of a new magistrate coming and is pulled into a whole mess of events -> Meets the underground resistance leader and helps her escape from the empire -> sets off with pirates on a quest to save a country and world The political aspect of FFXII is much more indepth (Not like it's deep or anything, just more then Skies).
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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="-Ramirez-"]How many of you in here have actually played both games? Surely you can see how their stories are similar? :|
-Ramirez-
I've played and beaten both games and they are much different.

The characters especially reminded me of Skies. Balthier reminded me of Gilder. Cid reminded me of De Loco. And the whole storyline based around an empire trying to take over different places and the whole nephacite thing just reminded me of the skies of arcadia and the valuan empire trying to take over lands to gain the giga crystals. The war thing also reminded me of the Valua/Nasr war. It just seemed really familiar.

A empire at war trying to take over different places isn't an original storyline
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#36 -The-G-Man-
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OMG, FF12 copied off Skies of Arcadia since their stories are similar?  Wow, then Call of Duty so ripped off Medal of Honor.  I mean, Medal of Honor had the WWII storyline first.  And Halo ripped off Space Invaders.  Space Invaders had aliens first, and Space Invaders probably ripped off another alien game, too.
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[QUOTE="KoreanX"]

[QUOTE="-Ramirez-"]How many of you in here have actually played both games? Surely you can see how their stories are similar? :|
-Ramirez-

Why does it matter? Personally, it has no ramifictations to if a game is enjoyable or not. Final Fantasy XII has kickass characters to tell the story (Even if half of them serve no point in the plot)

Urgh... I thought the characters were pretty boring personally bar Balthier. What sucks is that FFX had an amazing story and characters but average gameplay, then XII finally brings in some good gameplay and the storyline and characters suck.

Final Fantasy X had the most boring storyline ever. The whole thing didn't make any sense.