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#1 TheMysticHorse
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since Final Fantasy VI. The only other game that competes is Vagrant Story. Everything else between VI and XII was totally inferior to those games.

Discuss.

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#2 RazMaTaz-1
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na, VII, Crisis Core, X, and VIII were the best.
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#4 dru26
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Peronally I think it was one of the worst. I'd also put X in my bottom bracket.
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#6 mo0ksi
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Final Fantasy 6 or 7 were their best games. 12 is in the ranks of FFX-2
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#7 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]na, VII, Crisis Core, X, and VIII were the best.the_h_bomb

:lol:

I'm prone to agree with Raz.

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#8 RazMaTaz-1
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[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]na, VII, Crisis Core, X, and VIII were the best.the_h_bomb

:lol:

VII - 9.7
CC - 9.0
X - 9.6
VIII - 9.5

Got a better argument then just ":lol:" or are just high?

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#9 Ragnarok1051
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12 was their worst performance IMO.
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#10 Lionheart08
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XII was good, but I don't think it was best. Final Fantasy X still ranks top IMO. FF7 and FF8 are both a close second. Of course, a lot of old school fans will say FFVI was the best.
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#11 yoshi_64
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My favorites (and in my opinion the "best" ones) were VI, Tactics, IX and X.
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#12 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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since Final Fantasy VI. The only other game that competes is Vagrant Story. Everything else between VI and XII was totally inferior to those games.

Discuss.

TheMysticHorse

No, sorry. I liked FF12 and think it gets a bad rap. I LOVED the changes they made to the gameplay for the most part and the story was excellent. But as you point out, Vagrant Story was also great, FF6, I still love FF8 and 9, and The FF-Tactics games are always a great buy.

But there is also Secret of Mana, Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross, Parasite Eve, Kingdom Hearts, etc.

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#13 Dahaka-UK
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No, quite possibly FFXII is the worst FF next to FFX-2.
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#14 osan0
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im currently playing through 12 (about to go to a kings tomb) and....its not brilliant. the game is just not grabbing me really and pushing on is becoming more difficult (in terms of mustering up the will). and this is not a re-play this is my first go. so far the story is fairly un-interesting imho and the characters are pretty hollow. im hoping that this is still early days (i think im about 10 hours in) and that something really interesting kicks in.

so far 7 is still my fav FF game. 8 was rubbish though. 3 was good but required a crap load of grinding (that was the DS remake version) which i dont like doing. i havent played 1 and 2. nor 4. i think i played 5 and 6 but i dont remember them (is 6 the one where u start off in these battle suits attacking a village? or am i thinking of something else completly?). i also havent played 9 or finished 10.

but yeah...so fat the 2 best things to come out of square are FF7 and chrono trigger imho.

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#15 f50p90
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It's funny to see people argue this, like they have any solid reasoning why their personal favorite is better than someone elses. XII happens to be my personal favorite

BTW Squaresoft =/= Square Enix

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#16 JLF1
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Square's best game ever is Xenogears.
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#17 RaveRabbid
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Final Fantasy VII> Final Fantasy VI> Final Fantasy Tactics

Everything other final fantasy game is garbage. You have been playing garbage for the past 10 years and I don't think thats going to change with Final Fantasy XIII (despite the moaning hopefuls).

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#18 Haee
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This is rather opinionated but VI and IX were my favorites that were both vastly superior than VII and XII ever was...but thats just me.
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#19 hiphops_savior
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Try Final Fantasy VI, if you don't have it, just play the GBA remake. It's Square's crowning achievement in terms of 2D Final Fantasies. Final Fantasy IV, IMO, is the breakout game of the series.
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#20 travt-down
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Einhander

Chrono Trigger

Secret of Mana

Secret of Evermore

FF Tactics

FF Tactics Advance

All better than XII and all after FFVI

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#21 DireToad
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Xenogears is Square's best title since... anything.
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#22 GhostOfKosh1
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Can't we just all agree that all the Final Fantasy games rule??

But if you were to force me to pick a game it would have to be Final Fantasy II (USA numeration). I can't believe when I found out that Golbez was actually my brother! OMFG!! Can you believe it?? I was in shock and awe for days.

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#23 Ragnarok1051
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Can't we just all agree that all the Final Fantasy games rule??

But if you were to force me to pick a game it would have to be Final Fantasy II (USA numeration). I can't believe when I found out that Golbez was actually my brother! OMFG!! Can you believe it?? I was in shock and awe for days.

GhostOfKosh1

That would be Final Fantasy 4 in the U.S as well now.

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#24 GhostOfKosh1
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[QUOTE="GhostOfKosh1"]

Can't we just all agree that all the Final Fantasy games rule??

But if you were to force me to pick a game it would have to be Final Fantasy II (USA numeration). I can't believe when I found out that Golbez was actually my brother! OMFG!! Can you believe it?? I was in shock and awe for days.

Ragnarok1051

That would be Final Fantasy 4 in the U.S as well now.

Thanks, though I'm always going to think of them as FF2 & FF3 .

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#26 Dasacant
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I really enjoyed XII I woulden't rank it as their best but if you think it is the best who am I to say otherwise
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#27 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]

[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]na, VII, Crisis Core, X, and VIII were the best.Mad_Rhetoric

:lol:

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#28 mjarantilla
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Can't we just all agree that all the Final Fantasy games rule??

But if you were to force me to pick a game it would have to be Final Fantasy II (USA numeration). I can't believe when I found out that Golbez was actually my brother! OMFG!! Can you believe it?? I was in shock and awe for days.

GhostOfKosh1

Goddammit, I was still playing the GBA version of that game!
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#29 Wanderer5
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Final Fantasy X and Kingdom Hearts II disagree IMO. FFXII is a good game but there were a few games that came out between FFVI and FFXII from SE that are better.
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#30 mjarantilla
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Final Fantasy X and Kingdom Hearts II disagree. FFXII is a good game but there were a few games that came out between FFVI and FFXII from SE that are better. Wanderer5

Ughhhhh, FFX?

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[QUOTE="Wanderer5"]Final Fantasy X and Kingdom Hearts II disagree. FFXII is a good game but there were a few games that came out between FFVI and FFXII from SE that are better. mjarantilla

Ughhhhh, FFX?

The only thing I like about FFXII more then FFX was the battle system, but I like FFX soundtrack more, the battle system was still good, and it has a way better story then FFXII.

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#32 Vandalvideo
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Nostalgia aside, FF12 is easily my favorite Square game. They took a c hange with the progressive story telling and the unique gameplay, but it was well worth. For once Square decided to not be the standardized bastard child of the JRPG genre and try something new. Kudos to them for that.
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#33 jessie5788
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i hated the gameplay in 12. i'm mad that i even bought it. does anyone know if 13 will have the same battle system.
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I disagree on games that are under the Squeenix umbrella. Xenogears Chrono Trigger Radiata Stories DQVIII Valkyrie Profile FFVII, VIII, and IX Bushido Blade 2 Brave Fencer Musashi
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since Final Fantasy VI. The only other game that competes is Vagrant Story. Everything else between VI and XII was totally inferior to those games.

Discuss.

TheMysticHorse
12 was awsome and one of the best FF, but die hard JRPG fans will rip your head off, sorry.
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#36 samusarmada
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[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]na, VII, Crisis Core, X, and VIII were the best.the_h_bomb

:lol:

i hate it when people do this. Especially when the games quoted are highly rated to begin with.

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#37 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]

[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]na, VII, Crisis Core, X, and VIII were the best.samusarmada

:lol:

i hate it when people do this. Especially when the games quoted are highly rated to begin with.

I like it when they do this, but only when they're right (i.e. when I agree with them).

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#38 TheMysticHorse
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[QUOTE="TheMysticHorse"]

since Final Fantasy VI. The only other game that competes is Vagrant Story. Everything else between VI and XII was totally inferior to those games.

Discuss.

tader-salad
12 was awsome and one of the best FF, but die hard JRPG fans will rip your head off, sorry.

Ultimately the people who don't like XII aren't real FF fans.
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#39 samusarmada
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[QUOTE="samusarmada"][QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]

[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]na, VII, Crisis Core, X, and VIII were the best.mjarantilla

:lol:

i hate it when people do this. Especially when the games quoted are highly rated to begin with.

I like it when they do this, but only when they're right (i.e. when I agree with them).

lol

i guess i do to :P

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#40 tader-salad
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[QUOTE="tader-salad"][QUOTE="TheMysticHorse"]

since Final Fantasy VI. The only other game that competes is Vagrant Story. Everything else between VI and XII was totally inferior to those games.

Discuss.

TheMysticHorse
12 was awsome and one of the best FF, but die hard JRPG fans will rip your head off, sorry.

Ultimately the people who don't like XII aren't real FF fans.

Agreed.
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#41 haris12121212
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7,8,10,12, Tactics, Crisis Core, PArasite Even (both), Vargant Story,Kingdom Hearts 2, are all great.
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#42 Chipp
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Final Fantasy VII> Final Fantasy VI> Final Fantasy Tactics

Everything other final fantasy game is garbage. You have been playing garbage for the past 10 years and I don't think thats going to change with Final Fantasy XIII (despite the moaning hopefuls).

RaveRabbid

In no way shape nor form is FFVII better than FFVI. VII is a good follow up for the series but inferior in nearly every possible way to VI. The only thing its got on VI is graphics, but I would rather take SD sprites than the SD block characters VII had.

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#43 mistervengeance
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Final Fantasy 6 or 7 were their best games. 12 is in the ranks of FFX-2mo0ksi

no. not even close. x-2 is the wii equivalent of final fantasy. i'm surprised it wasn't called "girlz fantasiez"

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Sorry , but i like FFX,FFVII,FFVIII,FFIX & Kingdom hearts 2 way way more. and my username & sig says it all :P
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#45 oldvander
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[QUOTE="RaveRabbid"]

Final Fantasy VII> Final Fantasy VI> Final Fantasy Tactics

Everything other final fantasy game is garbage. You have been playing garbage for the past 10 years and I don't think thats going to change with Final Fantasy XIII (despite the moaning hopefuls).

Ramadear

In no way shape nor form is FFVII better than FFVI. VII is a good follow up for the series but inferior in nearly every possible way to VI. The only thing its got on VI is graphics, but I would rather take SD sprites than the SD block characters VII had.

I didn't enjoy 6. 4 was excellent, but 6 was too drawn out for me. I prefered 7 to 6 too.

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#46 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="tader-salad"][QUOTE="TheMysticHorse"]

since Final Fantasy VI. The only other game that competes is Vagrant Story. Everything else between VI and XII was totally inferior to those games.

Discuss.

TheMysticHorse

12 was awsome and one of the best FF, but die hard JRPG fans will rip your head off, sorry.

Ultimately the people who don't like XII aren't real FF fans.

Heaven forbid they can't dislike a game. :roll:

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#47 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="RaveRabbid"]

Final Fantasy VII> Final Fantasy VI> Final Fantasy Tactics

Everything other final fantasy game is garbage. You have been playing garbage for the past 10 years and I don't think thats going to change with Final Fantasy XIII (despite the moaning hopefuls).

Ramadear

In no way shape nor form is FFVII better than FFVI. VII is a good follow up for the series but inferior in nearly every possible way to VI. The only thing its got on VI is graphics, but I would rather take SD sprites than the SD block characters VII had.

Agreed.

FFVI = the pinnacle of the old turn-based JRPG form.

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#49 naruto7777
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Crisis cores game system and dmv was the best
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#50 naruto7777
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crisis core is the best