Final fantasy XIII to be amazing...says the FF pattern.

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#1 the_dark-knight
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Final fantasy, when released on the NES, was huge. It sold like hot cakes. There were more that followed on NES, none too revolutionary (other than VI). When FF VII released on the PS, it literally broke sales records. It was a rebirth for a new console in many ways, although many people thought it was over rated. Sure FF VIII n IX were good, but not as good as VII(in terms of being revolutionary). Then the all mighty FF X came out, my personal fav. It was a rebirth for a new console, just like the other first FF games released for each console. So, by pattern, is FF XIII destined to reach a new benchmark,I truly hope the pattern continues.

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#2 Jared2720
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I hope you're right. I'm really looking forward to Final Fantasy XIII and White Knight Story.
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#3 deavincalhoun
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I agree cause couse 12 sucked. I hope they have a music like roda to zanarcand.
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So, you basically are saying the first release of FF on the next gen consoles will be the "best"?
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#5 yoshi_64
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I agree cause couse 12 sucked. I hope they have a music like roda to zanarcand.deavincalhoun
12 didn't "suck" but.... :? each his own I suppose...
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god, when will the fantasy finally be FINAL... how many are we up to now? geez this is getting to be like rocky balboa...:lol: no... just kidding FFwhatever will be ausome
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So, you basically are saying the first release of FF on the next gen consoles will be the "best"?yoshi_64

I have a burning, deep seeded hatred for Final Fantasy X...

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So, you basically are saying the first release of FF on the next gen consoles will be the "best"?yoshi_64

Kinda...but more of a transformation as each game translated to another console. Like NES-PS was graphics and story. PS1-PS2 was graphics, gameplay, and more diversity. Im hoping PS2-PS3 will be gameplay, graphics, story, and sound. Therby making a better FF game.

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[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]So, you basically are saying the first release of FF on the next gen consoles will be the "best"?Redmoonxl2

I have a burning, deep seeded hatred for Final Fantasy X...

Tidus was an awfully annoying character. i also hated the sphere grid for character development.

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[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]So, you basically are saying the first release of FF on the next gen consoles will be the "best"?Redmoonxl2

I have a burning, deep seeded hatred for Final Fantasy X...

I respect your opinion, but it what did you not like about it.

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god, when will the fantasy finally be FINAL... how many are we up to now? geez this is getting to be like rocky balboa...:lol: no... just kidding FFwhatever will be ausomepenguino726

Off topic. No way I seen a Rambo trailer the other day. I'm seeing it.

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[QUOTE="penguino726"]god, when will the fantasy finally be FINAL... how many are we up to now? geez this is getting to be like rocky balboa...:lol: no... just kidding FFwhatever will be ausomeShomb22

Off topic. No way I seen a Rambo trailer the other day. I'm seeing it.

I saw the preview too, and i was like "is stalone just remaking all of his classics now!?".

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[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"]

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]So, you basically are saying the first release of FF on the next gen consoles will be the "best"?the_dark-knight

I have a burning, deep seeded hatred for Final Fantasy X...

I respect your opinion, but it what did you not like about it.

Story, art style, theme, linearity, combat and characters, especially Seymour and Tidus. I couldn't even stand to finish the game, I got so sick of it.

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[QUOTE="the_dark-knight"][QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"]

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]So, you basically are saying the first release of FF on the next gen consoles will be the "best"?Redmoonxl2

I have a burning, deep seeded hatred for Final Fantasy X...

I respect your opinion, but it what did you not like about it.

Story, art style, theme, linearity, combat and characters, especially Seymour and Tidus. I couldn't even stand to finish the game, I got so sick of it.

gotcha. I wish they didnt use the sphere grid system... i thought it diluted the combat.

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[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]So, you basically are saying the first release of FF on the next gen consoles will be the "best"?Redmoonxl2

I have a burning, deep seeded hatred for Final Fantasy X...

Same here FFXII was so much better
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I do too, I really loved FFX
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#17 MikeE21286
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The first iteration of most franchises (atleast the ones that aren't new IPs) tend to get the most attention.

MGS2 was huge, MGS3 was good but overlooked

FF7 was huge, FFVIII and FFIX were good but (for the most part overlooked)

You get all this pent up excitement over how the game will look and run on new hardware and people tend to go nuts over it it....I mean look at Halo 3, 5 million in like 3 months. (not to say that these games will have the same sales, but still, you see what I mean)

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The 'first' FF game on a video game console is always the best of its gen. ie, FF1, FF4, FF7, FF10, FF13?
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#19 Tiefster
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[QUOTE="deavincalhoun"]I agree cause couse 12 sucked. I hope they have a music like roda to zanarcand.yoshi_64
12 didn't "suck" but.... :? each his own I suppose...



It didn't suck but it was a change of pace I suppose. After starting FFX again I can't bring myself to play FFXII atm. I like XII but not as much as VII, IX, and X.

As for XIII I think it's going to move JRPGs into this gen.
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I hope you are right. I am really looking forward to both XIII and Versus XIII. Also, yes, FFXII was a dissapointment for the most part. They forgot all the old players and tried to get new users to get into it, which in term made the old timers not really appreciate the FFXII. It was OK but nothing like the previous ones.

FF will probably also not be FINAL anytime soon because even though each new game only changes its name in the number department, the story is ALWAYS different with new (although sometimes similar) characters. They also always add on new things and some some things the same (summons).

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Hey, has anyone thought about FFXIV? I mean, considering there were around 2-3 mainstream FF games released on each console, it isn't too much of a stretch to believe the PS3 would get at least another great FF game after FFXIII and Versus XIII? Look at this :

PS1 : FVII, FVIII, FIX, FFTactics (kind of a major release)

PS2 : FFX, FFXI (major online release), FFX-2 (minor release), FFXII

PS3 : FFXIII, FF Versus XIII, ???

Although it may be different this time : the ressources and time spent at perfecting these dual-story games might cause the next major FF release to be on the future-generation Sony Hardware Console. I mean, I'm not even sure if FF Versus XIII is a proper Major FF Numero Release or some kind of expansion to FFXIII, or if it'll be bundled with the game to make the length the equivalent of one full final fantasy game, or both are lengthy to stand out as their own FF title. I'm confused...

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#22 Carmilla31
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Every system FF has been on has gotten three main games. And get a hold of this little fact, every console that has housed the main FF games has been the winner in sales in its gen. :o NES = FF 1,2,3 SNES = FF 4, 5, 6 PS1 = FF 7, 8, 9 PS2 = FF 10, 11, 12
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#23 joeychew
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it better be.
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Every system FF has been on has gotten three main games. And get a hold of this little fact, every console that has housed the main FF games has been the winner in sales in its gen. :o NES = FF 1,2,3 SNES = FF 4, 5, 6 PS1 = FF 7, 8, 9 PS2 = FF 10, 11, 12Carmilla31
I dbout PS3 will have 3 FF. FF13,14,15... But wait and see.
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Every system FF has been on has gotten three main games. And get a hold of this little fact, every console that has housed the main FF games has been the winner in sales in its gen. :o NES = FF 1,2,3 SNES = FF 4, 5, 6 PS1 = FF 7, 8, 9 PS2 = FF 10, 11, 12Carmilla31
[QUOTE="Carmilla31"]Every system FF has been on has gotten three main games. And get a hold of this little fact, every console that has housed the main FF games has been the winner in sales in its gen. :o NES = FF 1,2,3 SNES = FF 4, 5, 6 PS1 = FF 7, 8, 9 PS2 = FF 10, 11, 12haris12121212
I dbout PS3 will have 3 FF. FF13,14,15... But wait and see.

Well FFXIII and FFXIII Versus (if you've seen the Versus trailer....that things a full-fledged FF game) and I think there's two other ones I'm missing. Can't wait...

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#26 haris12121212
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[QUOTE="haris12121212"][QUOTE="Carmilla31"]Every system FF has been on has gotten three main games. And get a hold of this little fact, every console that has housed the main FF games has been the winner in sales in its gen. :o NES = FF 1,2,3 SNES = FF 4, 5, 6 PS1 = FF 7, 8, 9 PS2 = FF 10, 11, 12MikeE21286

I dbout PS3 will have 3 FF. FF13,14,15... But wait and see.

Well FFXIII and FFXIII Versus (if you've seen the Versus trailer....that things a full-fledged FF game) and I think there's two other ones I'm missing. Can't wait...

Well if FF Vs. 13 counts in that list, then FFX-2 should count for a PS2 title... but I was mainly talking about the numerical titles. 13,14,15 not their "spinoffs" or games related in the same world.
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#27 Brainhunter
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That's what has always been bugging me : in the Final Fantasy Franchise, where exactly does FF Versus XIII stand? I'm sure it is a full-fledged FF game, but is it considered a proper Numerical FF Number? Or some kind of major spin-off? Or perhaps one of many future FF games that would branch out of a certain numerical FF and expand on the story?
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I agree cause couse 12 sucked. I hope they have a music like roda to zanarcand.deavincalhoun

12 wasn't that bad. I played it longer than 10. i actually sold X and kept 12.

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Why people love ff X is beyond me. The Story and character developmentwere nothing short of horrid. And I think that as far as Final Fantasy goes FF 12 and 11 wereFAR morerevolutionary than 10 couldever hope to be. (and its really not that hard toget that being that11 is an MMO and 12 is completely different gameplay wise.) Whatdid 10 do that was so revolutionary agin?....
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#30 Thompsonwhore
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It had better be amazing. It in conjunction with Metal Gear Solid 4 are the primary reasons I bought the PS3 over the Xbox 360.

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#31 tiger35010
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Why people love ff X is beyond me. The Story and character developmentwere nothing short of horrid. And I think that as far as Final Fantasy goes FF 12 and 11 wereFAR morerevolutionary than 10 couldever hope to be. (and its really not that hard toget that being that11 is an MMO and 12 is completely different gameplay wise.) Whatdid 10 do that was so revolutionary agin?.... mojito1988
My opinion??? YAY!!! ffx was great in its musical score, story, sphere grid. the people who didnt like the sphere grid probly didnt know how to navigate and use it right...(probly) sphere grid was almost as flexible as materia was considering if you want to breed Yuna for combat instead of aeon magic or healing stuff...
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#32 Thompsonwhore
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I didn't hate Final Fantasy X as a whole. But save for Auron and Khimari, the characters were all pretty annoying.
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Final fantasy, when released on the NES, was huge. It sold like hot cakes. There were more that followed on NES, none too revolutionary (other than VI). When FF VII released on the PS, it literally broke sales records. It was a rebirth for a new console in many ways, although many people thought it was over rated. Sure FF VIII n IX were good, but not as good as VII(in terms of being revolutionary). Then the all mighty FF X came out, my personal fav. It was a rebirth for a new console, just like the other first FF games released for each console. So, by pattern, is FF XIII destined to reach a new benchmark,I truly hope the pattern continues.

the_dark-knight

Wow, the Square must've packed in some impressive custom graphics chips to make that utterly incredible FFVI on the NES :roll:

I trully hope FFXIII draws me back in as I haven't finished an FF game, or LOVED and FF game since the almighty FFVI which is by far the best in the series IMO. I never even bothered playing VIII as I hated the look of it. Now that SE made the impossible-to comprehend-decision of putting DQIX on the goddamn DS, FFXIII is the PS3's only main big hitter in Japan.

I am however, looking much more forward to getting my hands on Shirokishi Monogatari than either FF game. Level 5 kick SE's arse all over the place for RPGs these days. Square has been crap since the end of the Super Famicom days and NEVER hit the highpoint of development on the PS1 or 2 they had with the SFC. All you have to do is look at how they ruined SFC franchises such as Romancing Sa Ga, Seiken Densetsu and Hanjuku Hero on the playstation consoles to see this. As for Enix, they have always been a one trick pony with DQ. They had Star Ocean and a few other minor hit RPGs on the SFC but none of their other games were ever big in Japan apart from the Itadaki Street games.

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I agree, I've played VI, VII, most of VIII, and X, and although VI is my favorite, I feel that VII and X were both exceptional. And before you pounce on X, let me say yes, Tidus was annoying, but Auron was an absolute pimp! Every time Tidus got whiney, Auron would just pimp smack his sorry ass and say "shut up you crybaby ho." But seriously, I was intrigued by the time-travel plot that you get from the very beginning, and the post-apocalyptic world, and the nature of death in that world. Even when the logic of the characters was off with regards to the time travel, it was fixed by a hefty twist.
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I miss the old FF's, because after VII, X was the only decent one (IMO). FFXIII might be the "last straw" for me personally, otherwise, I'll just move onto other RPG's, or maybe even take a break from RPG's in general.
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I totally agree with you on the pattern. FF13 looks phenomenal and the fact it's on a new system allows Square-Enix to make the game with no limits on what they can achieve. The developer ofFF13 stated in an interview that he will use all the benifits of PS3 like Blu-ray, Cell etc to make FF13 the best it can be. Plus vs13 will be just as good meaning two awesome FF games which are different from each other yet awseome none the less.

FF13 & vs13 will help PS3 get back to the top in Japan.

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I totally agree with you on the pattern. FF13 looks phenomenal and the fact it's on a new system allows Square-Enix to make the game with no limits on what they can achieve. The developer ofFF13 stated in an interview that he will use all the benifits of PS3 like Blu-ray, Cell etc to make FF13 the best it can be. Plus vs13 will be just as good meaning two awesome FF games which are different from each other yet awseome none the less.

FF13 & vs13 will help PS3 get back to the top in Japan.

Swift_Boss_A

They can do whatever the hell they want with the "cell" and "blue-ray" but if the game has crap characters and a bad storyline, all the cell tricks in the world can't save the game. I think people seem to forget that the characters and story are the KEY things that make an RPG. This is why the Lunar games on the Mega CD are still my favourite games of all time.

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#38 RacoonusDoodus
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Versus XIII looks better anyway...
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#39 Al3x_n90
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yeah sure its gonna be amazing the question is when is it gonna be released? thats what i want to know :)