Final Fantasy XIII visually superior to a Hollywood movie???

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#1 DaddyDC650
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Two new scans from English magazine Playstation Monthly have been uploaded. They feature an article about Final Fantasy XIII and Versus XIII's graphics, saying that "...You'll be playing a game on a home console visually superior to a Hollywood movie". Worth checking out.

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/NewsCom-34358.aspx

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FF13 to Exceed Hollywood Level Graphics?

Final Fantasy XIII's visuals are set to redefine what we can expect in a game

Inarguably one of the best producers of computer generated graphics in the world, Square Enix has been flooring gamers with dazzling CG since FF7. The company eventually tried to expand into traditional film by releasing Final Fantasy Spirits Within in theaters. With a plot that was perhaps too cerebral for mass audience at the time, the movie actually made its mark in history with its visuals.

http://www.diggingtheweb.com/4707832.html

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The game's graphics are great. FF always has fantastic graphics.

I don't know about the comparison to a hollywood movie but FFXIII is certainly a game to keep your eye on. 

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The pre-rendered cutscenes will be superior to a Hollywood movie(or on par) The gameplay will not, it's simply impossible.
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The pre-rendered cutscenes will be superior to a Hollywood movie(or on par) The gameplay will not, it's simply impossible.Harbadakus
I guess we'll know soon enough right? I personally believe that they can come close.
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#5 Citan_Uzuki
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while the gameplay may not be superior I'm sure the cinemas will be superior to any holywood CGI. Square has been setting the bar in CGI for years(with honorable mentions to blizzard and namco). PIxar is hirrbly overrated talentwise when it comes to CGI in the hollywood commuinty they may be the best but we gamers have been seeing better quality stuff for years.
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The company eventually tried to expand into traditional film by releasing Final Fantasy Spirits Within in theaters. With a plot that was perhaps too cerebral for mass audience at the time, the movie actually made its mark in history with its visuals.DaddyDC650
Too cerebral? The plot was terrible and there have been plenty of "dry" movies that have been hits in the past.
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#7 foxhound_fox
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The CG FMV's? Why not?
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#8 Sparkys
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I will now quote a great band called "Public Enemy":

"Don't, Don't, Don't believe the hype, yeahhhh"

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#9 asdasd
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If SE pulls of the graphics (ingame)  from those links.. then I will throw my 360 out my second story window and record it for you guys.
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#10 -KinGz-
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When it comes to the visuals FF always are impressive, and square's CGI, is always getting better, I like it more than pixar's.
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[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]The company eventually tried to expand into traditional film by releasing Final Fantasy Spirits Within in theaters. With a plot that was perhaps too cerebral for mass audience at the time, the movie actually made its mark in history with its visuals.Idonomeus


Too cerebral? The plot was terrible and there have been plenty of "dry" movies that have been hits in the past.

the problem with spirits within was the basic plot and premise was waay too simple yet some of the ideas and material held within the plot were too complex for most of the audience so its plot turned off the smarter members of the audience and the comcepts presented were too complex. It tried top appeal to more people but turned off more in the end

 

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If SE pulls of the graphics (ingame)  from those links.. then I will throw my 360 out my second story window and record it for you guys.asdasd
LoL! Sure you would.....
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#13 SuperVegeta518
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Ummmm no.

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If SE pulls of the graphics (ingame) from those links.. then I will throw my 360 out my second story window and record it for you guys.asdasd
Thats not a good idea, while I know u are joking, u would miss great games coming.
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#15 DaddyDC650
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SuperVegeta518, I don't really think you could compare it to a movie like Shrek. I think it'll compare to Final Fantasy the movie.
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#16 -KinGz-
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Ummmm no.

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woah... thats pretty awesome.
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[QUOTE="Idonomeus"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"].Citan_Uzuki



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the problem with spirits within was the basic plot and premise was waay too simple yet some of the ideas and material held within the plot were too complex for most of the audience so its plot turned off the smarter members of the audience and the comcepts presented were too complex. It tried top appeal to more people but turned off more in the end

The real problem with Spirits Within is that its primary title is "Final Fantasy", when it has nothing to do with the game...

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#18 SuperVegeta518
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[QUOTE="Citan_Uzuki"]

[QUOTE="Idonomeus"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"].Cedmln



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the problem with spirits within was the basic plot and premise was waay too simple yet some of the ideas and material held within the plot were too complex for most of the audience so its plot turned off the smarter members of the audience and the comcepts presented were too complex. It tried top appeal to more people but turned off more in the end

The real problem with Spirits Within is that its primary title is "Final Fantasy", when it has nothing to do with the game...

Makes sence because none of the games besides X and X-2 have anything to do with each other.
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SuperVegeta518, I don't really think you could compare it to a movie like Shrek. I think it'll compare to Final Fantasy the movie.DaddyDC650
I still highly doubt it.

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#20 Harbadakus
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SuperVegeta518, I don't really think you could compare it to a movie like Shrek. I think it'll compare to Final Fantasy the movie.DaddyDC650
Crysis doesn't compare to the FF movie, how could FFXIII compare?

 

some more pics to go with Vegeta's post

 

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#21 DaddyDC650
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SuperVegeta518, you can compare screenshots from early FF builds to Final Fantasy the movie all you want but you still have yet to see what the finished product will look like. I personally believe that the visuals will compare to the movie, not exceed them.
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What is the difference between Final Fantasy XIII and Versus XIII'???
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[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]SuperVegeta518, I don't really think you could compare it to a movie like Shrek. I think it'll compare to Final Fantasy the movie.SuperVegeta518

I still highly doubt it.

I liked Spirits Within more than Advent Children. Spirits Within had an okay storyline, but at least it had a freakin storyline. Advent Children was just all action.
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What is the difference between Final Fantasy XIII and Versus XIII'???aroxx_ab

FF13 = RPG

FFVS13 = Kingdom Hearts type game.
 

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SuperVegeta518, you can compare screenshots from early FF builds to Final Fantasy the movie all you want but you still have yet to see what the finished product will look like. I personally believe that the visuals will compare to the movie, not exceed them.DaddyDC650
How is a game running on one PS3 that has to compute all of the AI and physics going to look better than something that is painstakingly created and examined frame be frame running on powerfull hardware which only has the job of producing graphics?
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[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]SuperVegeta518, you can compare screenshots from early FF builds to Final Fantasy the movie all you want but you still have yet to see what the finished product will look like. I personally believe that the visuals will compare to the movie, not exceed them.SuperVegeta518
How is a game running on one PS3 that has to compute all of the AI and physics going to look better than something that is painstakingly created and examined frame be frame running on powerfull hardware which only has the job of producing graphics?


When did I type that the game would look better than the movie? The game will look SIMILAR to the movie. I don't think it'll match or exceed it.
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#28 foxhound_fox
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I liked Spirits Within more than Advent Children. Spirits Within had an okay storyline, but at least it had a freakin storyline. Advent Children was just all action. majadamus


The thing with Advent Children was they expected you to understand the plot of FFVII. I really enjoyed Spirits Within.
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#29 -Daddy-
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[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]SuperVegeta518, you can compare screenshots from early FF builds to Final Fantasy the movie all you want but you still have yet to see what the finished product will look like. I personally believe that the visuals will compare to the movie, not exceed them.SuperVegeta518
How is a game running on one PS3 that has to compute all of the AI and physics going to look better than something that is painstakingly created and examined frame be frame running on powerfull hardware which only has the job of producing graphics?

read and stop being nitpicky... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XIII "The main aspects of the engine is that it handles advanced audio processing, cinematic cut-scene transition, physics effects calculations and special effects rendering. The White Engine reportedly uses 4 of the 6 synergistic processing elements (SPEs) available to games, of the Cell processor, to achieve near-pre-rendered CGI quality in realtime." its prolly gonna use all SPEs now since sony released EDGE.
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[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]What is the difference between Final Fantasy XIII and Versus XIII'???asdasd

FF13 = RPG

FFVS13 = Kingdom Hearts type game.
 

Ah ok thank you :)

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#32 Endfinal
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It certainly won't match a Hollywood movie, but that isn't stopping it from having incredible graphics at the same time.
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[QUOTE="Harbadakus"]The pre-rendered cutscenes will be superior to a Hollywood movie(or on par) The gameplay will not, it's simply impossible.DaddyDC650

I guess we'll know soon enough right? I personally believe that they can come close.

just give the devs time with the ps3

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#34 TaCoDuDe
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They will not even begin to approach Hollywood CGI. Movie CGI will always be ahead of video games.
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#35 Animeninja7
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The game will probably be superior.

I mean look at this trailer: http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=10870&type=mov&pl=game

Don't forget it's a year old. The overall game will be more superior.

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#36 souledge474
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Although the graphics are going to be really good, it wont touch hollywood cg......seriously
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#37 Acenso
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So you mean...This thing is probably going to be the biggest flop of this gen. Lets hype it to surpass Hollywood graphics? :lol:

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#38 libthegod
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So you mean...This thing is probably going to be the biggest flop of this gen. Lets hype it to surpass Hollywood graphics? :lol:

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So you mean .. you didnt even read the article, nor have any idea who Squall and Yuna are?
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This console gen? I highly doubt PC's will be able to achieve that, much less PS3 or 360. We are still a long way to go, to achieve the quality that some movies this past few years have showed us and quite frankly I can't see a video game coming next year(or is it this year? I don't know) that will be able to achieve that.
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#40 Paul_Phoenicks
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Now, the flaw with this argument is that a Hollywood movie will have the superior plot to a Final Fantasy game. That's what makes Pixar so great - not necessarily their tech, but their movies are all great. As for graphics, Final Fantasy XIII won't top Gollum or Yoda or King Kong or any of the dozens of CG characters rendered several years ago, with less tech than Squeenie is using nowadays. Oh, and I'm still waiting for the PS2 to top Toy Story...
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#41 superkoolstud
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nope. They are incredibly good but not the best. Blizzard and Pixar are better.
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#42 Kook18
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blizzard has been making visually superior-to-hollywood CG scenes for at least the last 5 years.
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#43 sonicmj1
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If they mean that the CG in FFXIII will match Hollywood CGI, that makes sense.

However, in-game graphics will never match CG from the same period, because something that has to put out graphics, sound, AI, and other stuff can't beat a system that's just putting out graphics. So this is just baseless hype.

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#44 ralphikari
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Nah Night Trap on the 3DO was better.

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#45 SSJ2_Cloud
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1) just to be nitpicky; Shrek is a dreamworks picture, not pixar, they are different 2) Paul_Phoenicks, why would you wait for Toy story graphics on PS2? That claim was made Microsoft's Seamus Blackley
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Hollywood level movies are recorded at 2160p and over. I'd like to see Final Fantasy XIII's "beyond Hollywood-level graphics" in 2160p. Besides, I could see the cutscenes in Final Fantasy XIII matching the quality of Hollywood CG, but not the gameplay.

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#48 Saturos3091
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That's an interesting article...hmm...I hope it comes to 360.