Final Fantasy XIII's Battle System Exposed

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

What? Is it really that much? Because of ACC?

In any case, I still don't have a PS3 yet and even if I did I wouldn't trifle with an hour long demo. Hopefully square releases XIII in Japan before September. :s

hakanakumono

So basically,

Movie: $30

Demo: $24

Ripoff, but oh well. I suppose it'll just put some more money into XIII's development.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] Sorry, It's $54. I could have sworn I saw playasia sell it for almost $100...Chutebox

So basically,

Movie: $30

Demo: $24

Ripoff, but oh well. I suppose it'll just put some more money into XIII's development.

Oh, we're not getting a demo.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

So basically,

Movie: $30

Demo: $24

Ripoff, but oh well. I suppose it'll just put some more money into XIII's development.

hakanakumono

Oh, we're not getting a demo.

doesnt sound anything like FFXIIs battle system to me. sounds more like the ATB system that was last seen in FFX-2 (the article said 9 but they were wrong). the only simmilarity i see with XII is you can see enemies when you are running around. i would be assuming when you enter combat you cannot move your characters. assuming you have control of all characters it should play out like a fast paced ATB system as opposed to the system in FFXII which felt alot like the system used in the tales and star ocean games.

why is final fantasy so awesome?HoldThePhone

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] Yea, it's still a rip off. Gonna wait for it to release here.Chutebox

Oh, we're not getting a demo.

USA.

The west isn't getting a demo anytime soon. I don't expect to see any sort of demo till december.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Oh, we're not getting a demo.

hakanakumono

USA.

The west isn't getting a demo anytime soon. I don't expect to see any sort of demo till december.

See this thread for better information on XIII's battle system.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/rpg/finalfantasy13/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-48700244&pid=928790&tag=topics;title

The information is actually quite old.

hakanakumono

Excellent! It sounds like an evolution of the traditional FFbattle style.I'm so glad it won't be like XII's.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] Where are you located?Chutebox

USA.

The west isn't getting a demo anytime soon. I don't expect to see any sort of demo till december.

It's not coming with a demo.

So am I the only one who actually liked FFXII (minus the story, which I still don't think was bad)?ULTIMATEZWARRIO

So am I the only one who actually liked FFXII (minus the story, which I still don't think was bad)?ULTIMATEZWARRIO

I liked XII's battle system a LOT. It was by far the most fun.

It's just that the plot didn't go anywhere/was fairly pointless.

[QUOTE="ULTIMATEZWARRIO"]So am I the only one who actually liked FFXII (minus the story, which I still don't think was bad)?hakanakumono

I liked XII's battle system a LOT. It was by far the most fun.

It's just that the plot didn't go anywhere/was fairly pointless.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

USA.

The west isn't getting a demo anytime soon. I don't expect to see any sort of demo till december.

hakanakumono

It's not coming with a demo.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="ULTIMATEZWARRIO"]So am I the only one who actually liked FFXII (minus the story, which I still don't think was bad)?HoldThePhone

I liked XII's battle system a LOT. It was by far the most fun.

It's just that the plot didn't go anywhere/was fairly pointless.

I liked those things too. I love how they incorporated Indian/Middle Eastern aesthetics into Medieval design ... as well as other things.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] They announced complete coming to America in June or July...didn't they?Chutebox

It's not coming with a demo.

99%.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

It's not coming with a demo.

hakanakumono

99%.

I need videos before i decide, but if its too similar to FF12's crap system i would be very dissapointed.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] You're 100% sure?Chutebox

99%.

Well, I think you're being a little too harsh. The fact that SE is releasing an hour long demo is definitely a good sign of development going well, but the localization probably hasn't caught up with it yet.

Remember that they have to take the time to hire quality voice actors who can represent their roles well, not just translate it.

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Crysis, The Witcher, Lost Odyssey and TF2 say hello :P

Sonic_on_crack

:lol: No.

It could've been alright, if Bethesda had added a vaguely interesting plot, gameplay that had some kind of strategy to it (other than 'enter vats, shoot at head, wait until APs recharge, repeat'), a gameworld that made any kind of sense, quests that weren't bland/broken, etc., and if they'd removed the massive bugs and plot holes...oh, and if they hadn't made a sequel to the Fallout franchise.

Anyway, back on topic...it's a Final Fantasy game, so the gameplay is going to be alright even at its worst. I'd be more worried about the plot or art-sty|e.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

99%.

hakanakumono

Well, I think you're being a little too harsh. The fact that SE is releasing an hour long demo is definitely a good sign of development going well, but the localization probably hasn't caught up with it yet.

Remember that they have to take the time to hire quality voice actors who can represent their roles well, not just translate it.

I can't wait to play it on my 360 :D

SpinoRaptor24

you could have said that without the fanboy comment.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] SE just keep going down lower and lower on my list. Very lame.Chutebox

Well, I think you're being a little too harsh. The fact that SE is releasing an hour long demo is definitely a good sign of development going well, but the localization probably hasn't caught up with it yet.

Remember that they have to take the time to hire quality voice actors who can represent their roles well, not just translate it.

I think SE is purposely making the DS games, and numerous remakes for maximum profit. FF 12 sold around 5.1 million copies while FF X sold more than that. So they think the market for FF games are changing. They maybe wondering that, if for some reason FF 13 ends up as a commercial failure(I mean less than SE expects in terms of millions sold) then they would be in deep trouble. Moreover, I'm pretty sure MS is paying through SE through the nose to keep the PS3 version on a hold even though its completed.

SE is trying to make money to the maximum extent. I can't blame them. They're earning lots of it.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] SE just keep going down lower and lower on my list. Very lame.Chutebox

Well, I think you're being a little too harsh. The fact that SE is releasing an hour long demo is definitely a good sign of development going well, but the localization probably hasn't caught up with it yet.

Remember that they have to take the time to hire quality voice actors who can represent their roles well, not just translate it.

A lot of people don't understand that development costs are extremely high at this point and all companies are trying to find ways to cope with that.

SE copes with it by ports and remakes. So everytime you see a port or a remake realize that those games are there so that square can put as much as they do into bigger titles like Final Fantasy XIII. Other devs are pumping out games, but they're considerably short. Also realize that every new PS3/360 IP that square puts out is a risk.

The problem with the demo is that there's not elling whether or not square has completed enough of the translation to do subtitles. We don't know what stage localization is in or if it's even started yet.

I need videos before i decide, but if its too similar to FF12's crap system i would be very dissapointed.

Zerocrossings

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Well, I think you're being a little too harsh. The fact that SE is releasing an hour long demo is definitely a good sign of development going well, but the localization probably hasn't caught up with it yet.

Remember that they have to take the time to hire quality voice actors who can represent their roles well, not just translate it.

fend_oblivion

I think SE is purposely making the DS games, and numerous remakes for maximum profit. FF 12 sold around 5.1 million copies while FF X sold more than that. So they think the market for FF games are changing. They maybe wondering that, if for some reason FF 13 ends up as a commercial failure(I mean less than SE expects in terms of millions sold) then they would be in deep trouble. Moreover, I'm pretty sure MS is paying through SE through the nose to keep the PS3 version on a hold even though its completed.

SE is trying to make money to the maximum extent. I can't blame them. They're earning lots of it.

Alienating the group of fans that have been feeding them money isn't a good business decision if you ask me.

I don't know, all I know is I haven't played a FF game for this gen yet and it's a good 3 years into it. Absurd.

Sony, get with it and start making RPGs with first parties!

That sounds very interesting, can't wait.

[QUOTE="ULTIMATEZWARRIO"]So am I the only one who actually liked FFXII (minus the story, which I still don't think was bad)?hakanakumono

I liked XII's battle system a LOT. It was by far the most fun.

[QUOTE="fend_oblivion"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] Ps3 has been out more than 2 years (right?) and we have seen 0 games by SE, none. Seems Ps3 only owners just got screwed out of LR and the very least they can do is have English Subtitles on FFXIII. But none of that is coming true. All other devs are pumping out quality games while SE is honestly being left in the dust releasing games for DS and remaking games that don't need to be remade.Chutebox

I think SE is purposely making the DS games, and numerous remakes for maximum profit. FF 12 sold around 5.1 million copies while FF X sold more than that. So they think the market for FF games are changing. They maybe wondering that, if for some reason FF 13 ends up as a commercial failure(I mean less than SE expects in terms of millions sold) then they would be in deep trouble. Moreover, I'm pretty sure MS is paying through SE through the nose to keep the PS3 version on a hold even though its completed.

SE is trying to make money to the maximum extent. I can't blame them. They're earning lots of it.

Alienating the group of fans that have been feeding them money isn't a good business decision if you ask me.

I don't know, all I know is I haven't played a FF game for this gen yet and it's a good 3 years into it. Absurd.

Sony, get with it and start making RPGs with first parties!

3 years for a FF game? Many people have been waiting since 2000 for the Chrono sequel :cry:

I want my Chrono Break SE. YOU HEAR ME?! CHRONO BREAK!!!

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="fend_oblivion"]

I think SE is purposely making the DS games, and numerous remakes for maximum profit. FF 12 sold around 5.1 million copies while FF X sold more than that. So they think the market for FF games are changing. They maybe wondering that, if for some reason FF 13 ends up as a commercial failure(I mean less than SE expects in terms of millions sold) then they would be in deep trouble. Moreover, I'm pretty sure MS is paying through SE through the nose to keep the PS3 version on a hold even though its completed.

SE is trying to make money to the maximum extent. I can't blame them. They're earning lots of it.

fend_oblivion

Alienating the group of fans that have been feeding them money isn't a good business decision if you ask me.

I don't know, all I know is I haven't played a FF game for this gen yet and it's a good 3 years into it. Absurd.

Sony, get with it and start making RPGs with first parties!

3 years for a FF game? Many people have been waiting since 2000 for the Chrono sequel :cry:

I want my Chrono Break SE. YOU HEAR ME?! CHRONO BREAK!!!

Omg ... Memories of the internet in 2001 ... lol.

there is a video trailer that has some battle in it.i dont like the system,first i want random battles ,second i want to be able to choose a spell and eat a pizza together or drink sth,if you see the battle you use one character (offcourse you can move to the other characters but YOU have to do it,many dont play rpgs to stay sharp all the time,i want to take my time choosing and not mash buttons like in gow).i really miss the old atb system that 7,8,9 had heck 10 had an awesome system too,from there its downfall for the ff series both storywise,gameplay. i had high hopes for this game but after i saw the battle system i dont anymore.

I don't mind the gameplay, its the story that bothers me.