final nail in ps3 coffin proof xbox360 owns ps3 lair developer admits

Q: How do you look back at this point on the differences between the PS 3 and the Xbox 360?
A: You'll have a hard time if you port without having a PS 3 game in mind when you created the 360 version. That is where a lot of complaints are coming from. They created the 360 engine with a unified memory architecture in mind, with the embedded frame buffer with its advantages and disadvantages, and not thinking too much in early stages about multicore. If you try to get that over to the PS 3, you're in for a bad surprise. The PS 3 is all about streamlining about the two different memory pools. They are separate. You don't have to do tiling because you don't have an embedded frame buffer. All of these advantages of the PS 3 turn into disadvantages if you don't start making your game on the PS 3. Hence the griping. If you create first on the PS 3, it is pretty easy to port it to the 360. A lot of companies coming on board now will probably start on the PS 3 and move to the 360. The lucky thing for us is we didn't have to think about the 360 at all.

LAIR DEV CONFIRMS 360 MORE POWERFUL.

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2007/04/qa_with_factor_5_chief_julian_eggebrecht.html

IF IT'S EASIER TO PORT PS3 GAME TO XBOX360 THAN 360 GAME TO PS3, PROVES 360 HARDWARE IS OVERALL MORE POWERFUL LOL.

Reading comprehension for the lose. :roll:

You completely missed what he said.

This proves that the PS3 is so different you need to develope a game on a PS3 first and then port it over to other systems.  360 and a CPU are so alike, while the PS3 has no system that is equal or alike.

one more thing

 UNCHARTED pawns all...That game can never be done on the 360...DVD9 you know

Q: How do you look back at this point on the differences between the PS 3 and the Xbox 360?
A: You'll have a hard time if you port without having a PS 3 game in mind when you created the 360 version. That is where a lot of complaints are coming from. They created the 360 engine with a unified memory architecture in mind, with the embedded frame buffer with its advantages and disadvantages, and not thinking too much in early stages about multicore. If you try to get that over to the PS 3, you're in for a bad surprise. The PS 3 is all about streamlining about the two different memory pools. They are separate. You don't have to do tiling because you don't have an embedded frame buffer. All of these advantages of the PS 3 turn into disadvantages if you don't start making your game on the PS 3. Hence the griping. If you create first on the PS 3, it is pretty easy to port it to the 360. A lot of companies coming on board now will probably start on the PS 3 and move to the 360. The lucky thing for us is we didn't have to think about the 360 at all.

 

LAIR DEV CONFIRMS 360 MORE POWERFUL.

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2007/04/qa_with_factor_5_chief_julian_eggebrecht.html

IF IT'S EASIER TO PORT PS3 GAME TO XBOX360 THAN 360 GAME TO PS3, PROVES 360 HARDWARE IS OVERALL MORE POWERFUL LOL.

dopepackmack420

No kiddo, it only proves that the PS3 is harder to program due to the Cell architecture.

Lol, wow. You completely misinterpreted that quote. He's saying that PS3 is more difficult to develop for ATM. If a dev were to port a game, it should be from 360 to PS3...you'll get an easier transfer and the outcome of the product on both systems will be much closer, if not identical. 

[QUOTE="Kreean"][QUOTE="dopepackmack420"][QUOTE="Spartan8907"][QUOTE="dopepackmack420"]

http://xboxmovies.teamxbox.com/xbox-360-hires/4732/Hour-of-Victory-High-Action-Moments-in-High-Definition/

ps3 couldnt handle this unreal engine 3.0 game without downgrades.

dopepackmack420

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/10/26/is-gears-of-war-as-good-as-it-gets/

We pushed the 360 to the limits," Gears of War QA manager Preston Thorne told Siliconera at last night's Hollywood launch party. While obviously an inflammatory remark, there could be some truth to the statement. After all, it was Epic that allegedly convinced Microsoft to bump up Xbox 360's RAM to 512 MB -- and Epic still maintains that 256 MB would not be enough to run Gears in its current state.

So does that mean PlayStation 3 couldn't handle the game? When asked, Preston skillfully dodged the question, but implied the answer was "no."

Selfowned?

Question: So does that mean PlayStation 3 couldn't handle the game?

Answer: No

no, you didnt comprehend right, he implied the awnser was no it couldnt run on ps3.

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2007/04/qa_with_factor_5_chief_julian_eggebrecht.html

: Some of the things I've heard are that there is a big limitation on this generation is theamount of total memory in the system. The 512 megabytes is just not close to the 2 gigabytes you can have on a PC.
A: Yeah, but didn't we have this conversation eight years ago and five years ago? Honestly, yes we spent the last four or six weeks going through hell getting Lair into memory.

I will just requote your comment from another post... so much about comprehension...

you people are fukkkin idiots learn to comprehend

if ps3 is so hard to develop for and different than xbox360 why is it easier to port such a different architecture to different architecture to xbox360 than xbox360 architecture game to ps3?

 

HMMM HE SAY'S UNIFIED MEMORY THAT EXPLAINS IT ALL PS3 HAS LESS SYSTEM MEMORY SO YOU HAVE TO MAKE XBOX360 GAMES ON PS3 YOU HAVE TO DOWNGRADE, ON PS3 THE MEMORY POOL NEVER EXCEED'S XBOX360'S SO EASIER TO HANDLE PS3 GAME WITHOUT DOWNGRADES BECAUSE ps3   GAMEs USES LESS MEMORY.

GODDAMN YOU PEOPLE ARE STUPID

HE SKILLFULLY ADMIITED XBOX360 IS MORE POWERFUL.

 

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Oh, you quickly made a new ID to post this? How creative! And now GET LOST!

Lmao.

Anyway, it doesn't say that exactly. 

why hasn't gamespot banned these people yet? My account was banned for just saying the acronym "T_HBO"...and then these people are alive when they're clearly without any proof saying bad things about the playstation 3 and flaming at sony fans.retrib

What coincidence? Your first post?

[QUOTE="retrib"]why hasn't gamespot banned these people yet? My account was banned for just saying the acronym "T_HBO"...and then these people are alive when they're clearly without any proof saying bad things about the playstation 3 and flaming at sony fans.Kreean

What coincidence? Your first post?

Had to make another one, just to say what you quoted. 

Q: How do you look back at this point on the differences between the PS 3 and the Xbox 360?
A: You'll have a hard time if you port without having a PS 3 game in mind when you created the 360 version. That is where a lot of complaints are coming from. They created the 360 engine with a unified memory architecture in mind, with the embedded frame buffer with its advantages and disadvantages, and not thinking too much in early stages about multicore. If you try to get that over to the PS 3, you're in for a bad surprise. The PS 3 is all about streamlining about the two different memory pools. They are separate. You don't have to do tiling because you don't have an embedded frame buffer. All of these advantages of the PS 3 turn into disadvantages if you don't start making your game on the PS 3. Hence the griping. If you create first on the PS 3, it is pretty easy to port it to the 360. A lot of companies coming on board now will probably start on the PS 3 and move to the 360. The lucky thing for us is we didn't have to think about the 360 at all.

 

LAIR DEV CONFIRMS 360 MORE POWERFUL.

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2007/04/qa_with_factor_5_chief_julian_eggebrecht.html

IF IT'S EASIER TO PORT PS3 GAME TO XBOX360 THAN 360 GAME TO PS3, PROVES 360 HARDWARE IS OVERALL MORE POWERFUL LOL.

dopepackmack420

Hhhmm.. no and I'm a big 360 fan.  It means that it harder to port games to the PS3 because of the architecture of the system and it's software tools. The PS3 is just harder to program form. Trying to port an XBox 360 game to the PS3 is a nightmare because of the way the Cell processor and RAM is set up. Porting from the PS3 to the XBox 360 is much easier. This has nothing to do with which system is more powerful. The PS3 processor is more powerful and the 360 GPU is more powerful. That's about it.

[QUOTE="dopepackmack420"]

Q: How do you look back at this point on the differences between the PS 3 and the Xbox 360?
A: You'll have a hard time if you port without having a PS 3 game in mind when you created the 360 version. That is where a lot of complaints are coming from. They created the 360 engine with a unified memory architecture in mind, with the embedded frame buffer with its advantages and disadvantages, and not thinking too much in early stages about multicore. If you try to get that over to the PS 3, you're in for a bad surprise. The PS 3 is all about streamlining about the two different memory pools. They are separate. You don't have to do tiling because you don't have an embedded frame buffer. All of these advantages of the PS 3 turn into disadvantages if you don't start making your game on the PS 3. Hence the griping. If you create first on the PS 3, it is pretty easy to port it to the 360. A lot of companies coming on board now will probably start on the PS 3 and move to the 360. The lucky thing for us is we didn't have to think about the 360 at all.

 

LAIR DEV CONFIRMS 360 MORE POWERFUL.

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2007/04/qa_with_factor_5_chief_julian_eggebrecht.html

IF IT'S EASIER TO PORT PS3 GAME TO XBOX360 THAN 360 GAME TO PS3, PROVES 360 HARDWARE IS OVERALL MORE POWERFUL LOL.

blackace

Hhhmm.. no and I'm a big 360 fan.  It means that it harder to port games to the PS3 because of the architecture of the system and it's software tools. The PS3 is just harder to program form. Trying to port an XBox 360 game to the PS3 is a nightmare because of the way the Cell processor and RAM is set up. Porting from the PS3 to the XBox 360 is much easier. This has nothing to do with which system is more powerful. The PS3 processor is more powerful and the 360 GPU is more powerful. That's about it.

Agreed

This proves that the PS3 is so different you need to develope a game on a PS3 first and then port it over to other systems.  360 and a CPU are so alike, while the PS3 has no system that is equal or alike.

one more thing

 UNCHARTED pawns all...That game can never be done on the 360...DVD9 you know

tmac2gooden

Well, that made no sense. They don't need to make the PS3 first. They need to develope the game for both systems at the same time with both the PS3 programmers working with the 360 programmers.

Lol, wow. You completely misinterpreted that quote. He's saying that PS3 is more difficult to develop for ATM. If a dev were to port a game, it should be from 360 to PS3...you'll get an easier transfer and the outcome of the product on both systems will be much closer, if not identical.

Episode_Eve

Reading comprehension for the lose. :roll:

-Spock-

why hasn't gamespot banned these people yet? My account was banned for just saying the acronym "T_HBO"...and then these people are alive when they're clearly without any proof saying bad things about the playstation 3 and flaming at sony fans.retrib

TC, i'm an Xbox fan, but the interview only proves that PS3 has a complicate architecture, and PS3 to 360 ports are easier than 360 to PS3 ports. You see, not that 360 is more powerful than PS3.