Finally, Mushihimesama Futari is coming out for Xbox360!!! : D

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#1 RedFactionFan
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http://kotaku.com/5220880/fantastic-scrolling-arcade-shooter-coming-to-xbox-360

Keep in mind that Shumps is the only hardcore genre, FACT

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#2 AdrianWerner
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Shumps is the only hardcore genre, FACT

RedFactionFan

good joke :D

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#3 RedFactionFan
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[QUOTE="RedFactionFan"]

Shumps is the only hardcore genre, FACT

AdrianWerner

good joke :D

No joke, its TRUTH

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#4 cowgriller
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that's...great but who gives a ----?

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#5 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="RedFactionFan"]

Shumps is the only hardcore genre, FACT

RedFactionFan

good joke :D

No joke, its TRUTH

yeah....right...suuuure it is ;)

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#6 RedFactionFan
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[QUOTE="RedFactionFan"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]good joke :D

AdrianWerner

No joke, its TRUTH

yeah....right...suuuure it is ;)

Name another hardcore genre (even though its ipossible)

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#7 AdrianWerner
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Name another hardcore genre (even though its ipossible)

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simulators

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#8 RedFactionFan
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[QUOTE="RedFactionFan"]

Name another hardcore genre (even though its ipossible)

AdrianWerner

simulators

Sorry but they have no real gameplay, there are not hardcore.

Next.

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#9 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="RedFactionFan"]

Name another hardcore genre (even though its ipossible)

RedFactionFan

simulators

Sorry but they have no real gameplay, there are not hardcore.

Next.

No, they actualy have a lot more gameplay than shumps and a lot more complexity. They also take a lot longer to learn. Bassicaly compared to simulators shumps are casual games

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#10 RedFactionFan
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[QUOTE="RedFactionFan"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]simulators

AdrianWerner

Sorry but they have no real gameplay, there are not hardcore.

Next.

No, they actualy have a lot more gameplay than shumps and a lot more complexity. They also take a lot longer to learn. Bassicaly compared to simulators shumps are casual games

Shumps are very difficult, they're very hard even if you memorize attack patterns.

Simulators on the other hand, are what they sound like. No gameplay what-so-ever.

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#11 AdrianWerner
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Shumps are very difficult, they're very hard even if you memorize attack patterns.

Simulators on the other hand, are what they sound like. No gameplay what-so-ever.

RedFactionFan

they have gameplay, it's just realistic, complex and extremely hard to get to, which makes it hardcore, by comparision shumps are extremely simplistic, have almost no learning curve and depth. Of course you can go hardcore and learn the patterns, but that just means you are giving hardcore dedication to a casual game. Kind of like spending months mastering Peggle. It's hardcore and takes a lot of time, but Peggle still remains a casual game. Same with shumps

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#12 Ambli
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Never going to see it in America.

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#13 RedFactionFan
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[QUOTE="RedFactionFan"]

Shumps are very difficult, they're very hard even if you memorize attack patterns.

Simulators on the other hand, are what they sound like. No gameplay what-so-ever.

AdrianWerner

they have gameplay, it's just realistic, complex and extremely hard to get to, which makes it hardcore, by comparision shumps are extremely simplistic, have almost no learning curve and depth. Of course you can go hardcore and learn the patterns, but that just means you are giving hardcore dedication to a casual game. Kind of like spending months mastering Peggle. It's hardcore and takes a lot of time, but Peggle still remains a casual game. Same with shumps

Shumps = casual? Wow, you have a very high posting level but obviously you weren't talking about games. You have a lot to learn, my friend...

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#14 AdrianWerner
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Shumps = casual? Wow, you have a very high posting level but obviously you weren't talking about games. You have a lot to learn, my friend...

RedFactionFan

not really. You just have limited view of the shump genre. It is the most casual action genre, most arcade shumps were the very definition of casual gaming. Later on some shumps added more difficulty, but taking those few and somehow judging the whole genre based on them is pretty silly. Simulators are far more hardcore in every way. You just obviously never played a simulator in your life.

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XBLA is now greater than the xbox + PS3 + Wii combined. Seriously. This basically destroys any form of retail or downloadable game on any console.
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#16 waffle57
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[QUOTE="RedFactionFan"]

Shumps = casual? Wow, you have a very high posting level but obviously you weren't talking about games. You have a lot to learn, my friend...

AdrianWerner

not really. You just have limited view of the shump genre. It is the most casual action genre, most arcade shumps were the very definition of casual gaming. Later on some shumps added more difficulty, but taking those few and somehow judging the whole genre based on them is pretty silly. Simulators are far more hardcore in every way. You just obviously never played a simulator in your life.

I think this entire argument is boiling down to. What makes a game hardcore? Complexity or difficulty/skill level?
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#17 aiyshun
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The Shmup genre is better.

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#18 FirstDiscovery
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[QUOTE="RedFactionFan"]

Shumps is the only hardcore genre, FACT

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good joke :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQZuidKexBQ /thread:P
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#19 FirstDiscovery
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[QUOTE="RedFactionFan"]

Shumps = casual? Wow, you have a very high posting level but obviously you weren't talking about games. You have a lot to learn, my friend...

AdrianWerner

not really. You just have limited view of the shump genre. It is the most casual action genre, most arcade shumps were the very definition of casual gaming. Later on some shumps added more difficulty, but taking those few and somehow judging the whole genre based on them is pretty silly. Simulators are far more hardcore in every way. You just obviously never played a simulator in your life.

Wow that is the funniest thing ive ever heard in SW, EVER:|

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#20 nethernova
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Shumps are very difficult

RedFactionFan
At first I thought it was only a typo but you keep spelling it that way. They are called shmups for Christ's sake.
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#21 RedFactionFan
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="RedFactionFan"]

Shumps = casual? Wow, you have a very high posting level but obviously you weren't talking about games. You have a lot to learn, my friend...

FirstDiscovery

not really. You just have limited view of the shump genre. It is the most casual action genre, most arcade shumps were the very definition of casual gaming. Later on some shumps added more difficulty, but taking those few and somehow judging the whole genre based on them is pretty silly. Simulators are far more hardcore in every way. You just obviously never played a simulator in your life.

Wow that is the funniest thing ive ever heard in SW, EVER:|

I'm sure Adrian was just messing with us.

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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="RedFactionFan"]

Shumps = casual? Wow, you have a very high posting level but obviously you weren't talking about games. You have a lot to learn, my friend...

not really. You just have limited view of the shump genre. It is the most casual action genre, most arcade shumps were the very definition of casual gaming. Later on some shumps added more difficulty, but taking those few and somehow judging the whole genre based on them is pretty silly. Simulators are far more hardcore in every way. You just obviously never played a simulator in your life.

This guy speaks the truth
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#23 glez13
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="RedFactionFan"]

Shumps = casual? Wow, you have a very high posting level but obviously you weren't talking about games. You have a lot to learn, my friend...

Tobin09

not really. You just have limited view of the shump genre. It is the most casual action genre, most arcade shumps were the very definition of casual gaming. Later on some shumps added more difficulty, but taking those few and somehow judging the whole genre based on them is pretty silly. Simulators are far more hardcore in every way. You just obviously never played a simulator in your life.

This guy speaks the truth

I second this. Although there have been epically hard SHUMPS saying that the overall genre is harder than the overall genre of Sims, is something I can't agree with.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWEryhtXzIs&feature=related

Under Defeat is the best Shmup in my opinion.

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#25 Dante2710
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thank god that game isnt coming out to the states, the japanese can keep it
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#26 waffle57
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thank god that game isnt coming out to the states, the japanese can keep it Dante2710
There are more people in the US than just you...
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#27 kage_53
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="RedFactionFan"]

No joke, its TRUTH

RedFactionFan

yeah....right...suuuure it is ;)

Name another hardcore genre (even though its ipossible)

2D fighters and rts.

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#28 MetroidPrimePwn
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Simulators on the other hand, are what they sound like. No gameplay what-so-ever.

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I guess all those Combat Missions in Falcon 4.0 were lies?

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#30 JangoWuzHere
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whats a shump?

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#31 MetroidPrimePwn
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whats a shump?

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Shoot EmUp

It usually refers to 2D vertical scrolling shooters, like Radiant Silvergun, Ikaruga, etc.

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#32 JangoWuzHere
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whats a shump?

MetroidPrimePwn

Shoot EmUp

It usually refers to 2D vertical scrolling shooters, like Radiant Silvergun, Ikaruga, etc.

oh ok thanks.